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select copy drag past

Who's going to help me.
In the Dutch windows version Its not possible to slect text with the stylus and then copy past or drag it to another part of the screen.
Not even in word....
Is their an setting or a reg tweak?
All other pda's are capable of doing this exept for the Rhodium (tuch pro 2)
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by the way. Its a striped down version of the Touch pro.
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They riped of:
-the radio
-MP3 Trimmer
-zip
-the flash light
- drag copy past
-the one finger control wheel
-voice tags
-voice recorder
so I'm not very pleased with the Pro2

Phones said:
In the Dutch windows version Its not possible to slect text with the stylus and then copy past or drag it to another part of the screen.
Not even in word....
Is their an setting or a reg tweak?
All other pda's are capable of doing this exept for the Rhodium (tuch pro 2)
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In which app? In threaded sms you just have to tap and hold a little longer before you drag the cursor. In email, the same, if you want to be easier you can point to menu - select text first. In opera just point, hold until pop up menu, choose text selection on. Just remember to revert to text selection off afterwards or it may get in the way when you intend to default mode of touchflo,i.e: scroll.
Juz fyi that i reply your thread on my TP2, select, copy, cut, all the way
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Phones said:
by the way. Its a striped down version of the Touch pro.
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They riped of:
-the radio
-MP3 Trimmer
-zip
-the flash light
- drag copy past
-the one finger control wheel
-voice tags
-voice recorder
so I'm not very pleased with the Pro2
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Please CMIIW, rip is when someone steal from you, or lie before selling, right? Now i never stumble upon any features mentioned before i buy my TP2
And actually from list you mentioned, only flash light and scroll wheel not available. The others are only problem for you to SEARCH and LEARN.
G'luck, buddy!

You have to toggle on "Select Text" mode if you want to select text by dragging in the Messaging app.
In Word, you can just do it. Drag with the stylus or your finger nail. If you drag with your finger, you will just scroll.

TAP Select Drag paste - Help with win 6pro bug -
It's in all the programs and applications.
its not the cursor but the text
for instance Word. Its not possible to tap, drag and select text.
Please note. I used several PDA's before the Touch pro 2. All of them had a windows version allouwing me to select text with the stylus.
The pro 2 doen'st have the possibillity.
It must be a Windows bug.
for instance the agenda. If I want to move a appointment several hours I did it with the stylus. Tap hold and move.
On the aganda of the pro 2 the entyre screen moves. You cant move a singel appointment.
WhO......... gana help me out.

When in a message, click 'Menu', 'Select Text' and you will be able to select the text you require.
I must admit that this does appear to be a step backwards. I was quite happy with the way the TyTnII handled it where by you had to leave the stylus down for a few moments and then drag to select anything.
Unfortunatly, with this new method, there are some things that simply are not possible. Like, for example, dragging and dropping appointments in Calendar, dragging and dropping files in Explorer etc.
I would happily go back to the old method if possible...

Phones said:
It's in all the programs and applications.
its not the cursor but the text
for instance Word. Its not possible to tap, drag and select text.
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Dude, stop panicking. Your spelling, grammer, and sentence structures are all messed up!
I've answered your query on how to tap&drag to select text in MS Word in the above post.

ohyeahar said:
Dude, stop panicking. Your spelling, grammer, and sentence structures are all messed up!
I've answered your query on how to tap&drag to select text in MS Word in the above post.
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I agree with that. This is not an issue at all. It works fine. The reason you have to hold longer is because it makes slide switching much faster. e.g going to the next or previous emails etc...

intothevoid said:
I agree with that. This is not an issue at all. It works fine. The reason you have to hold longer is because it makes slide switching much faster. e.g going to the next or previous emails etc...
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I understand Phones frustration, although I'm maybe dealing with it a little better!
Just to give 2 examples where I see issues with this new method...
1) In File Explorer you cannot select multiple files using finger or stylus. In fact, I can't even see the option to 'Select Several' like you have in Email/SMS.
2) When in an application that does support 'Select Several' it's not as easy as it was previously to select lots. For example, I could highlight and scroll at the same time before. I then used 'Ctrl' on the soft keyboard to the select another lot.
In general, I understand why it has been applied, to make finger control easier, however, I prefer the older version.

vigilante_xix said:
1) In File Explorer you cannot select multiple files using finger or stylus. In fact, I can't even see the option to 'Select Several' like you have in Email/SMS.
2) When in an application that does support 'Select Several' it's not as easy as it was previously to select lots. For example, I could highlight and scroll at the same time before. I then used 'Ctrl' on the soft keyboard to the select another lot.
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In the default File Explorer (and in most other apps including Messaging), you can hold the Ctrl key on the hardware keyboard and then tap the items you want to select. Alternatively, if the objects you want selected are in order, you can use the Shift key.
Btw, Resco File Explorer supports dragging to select items. Just wanted to throw that out there as an alternative you may consider.

Problems selecting text - in SOME apps

I have just upgraded from a TyTN2/Kaiser to a new TP2/Rhodium running WM 6.1 .. and am enjoying the experience except for one fly in the ointment.
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display. "Almost always" because if you time it properly, waiting a second or so and start dragging before the context menu pops up, then it sorta kinda works. But the selection seems to kick in quite some time AFTER beginning to drag, and therefore doesn't start at the beginning of the target. And Double-clicks (to select a whole word) no longer stretch word-for-word as I drag.
Most apps still work fine, but the following key apps suffer this annoying misbehaviour:
Contacts - But only the "Notes" tab. All text in the "Details" tab behaves as expected!
SMS texting - This occurs when selecting "Send Text Message" from a contact's Summary display (which is actually my preferred method as it is the quickest!). And it also occurs if you start an SMS from the messaging app via menu options Menu\New\SMS. But if you compose an SMS in the threaded view of a conversation in the same app, then the text selection is ok!
I can't find any posts by others who might be experiencing something similar, so is there a solution for this? A registry hack maybe? Am I the only one who has noticed this problem, or am I the only one who is annoyed so much by it?

Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".

ohyeahar said:
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
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I use the contact notes extensively, so it is extremely frustrating to have it compromised and complicated now (compared with TyTN2).
ohyeahar said:
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
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Ahh - thanks for that! Now if only i could find a way to keep that as the default

** UPDATE **
** UPDATE **
I just noticed that everything works properly .. if and only if you use "My Mobiler" to remotely control the phone. So you can use your mouse and your desktop monitor to drag select text in the above compromised apps (including Active Tasks by the way) .. and everything will be fine.
But when it come to using the stylus on the phone's touch-screen directly, the selection still misbehaves!!
This is not a workaround, just mentioning it in the hope that it might help someone enlightened enough to be able to piece the puzzle together

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.

digitaliceblast said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
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Thanks, but i'm not sure how exactly does it solve the problem? If you mean the post by orlandojumpoff (post #16) about pressing and holding and then dragging when the animation starts, then that's actually the problem itself.
The animation goes by so fast, that each time you do this, it takes a few false starts before you manage to time it right. The overall effect is to give priority to TF3D scrolling at the expense of functionality in terms of text selection. It makes me want to rip out TF3D by it's heart, which of course is a bit overkill.
I'd settle for being able to tell TF3D to stop interfering in specific apps, or simply to stop interferring while editing. Actually, come to think of it .. another viable option might be to find a way to get that animation to take a little longer ... hmmm

One thing you can do to mitigate it somewhat is to double tap on a word to select a word, triple tap to select an entire line. I use Pocket Informant and it too won't allow me to drag to select unless I try to time it like you do. Another trick is to use the hardware keyboard, and your arrow and shift keys combined to select text.
Sure wish the good things we like about WM would stick from version to version, and the bad things would be fixed and stay fixed. Hey, it could happen

trids said:
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display...
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There is a similar problem on Topaz (Diamond 2). It seems finger scrolling sensitivity was made too high and it can no more tell finger from stylus. I found a (partial) solution. Maybe it works on Rhodium too.
- Find the registry key "HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings".
- It should contains a subkey named "TFLOIgnoreAPPs". If it does not exist create it.
- For every application where you want to be able to select text add a string value called "IgnoreAppXY" where XY are two characters different for every entry.
- As value enter the name of the application EXE file as seen in file explorer (warning: case does matter).
From then on for that applications finger scrolling is suppressed and text selection works as expected.
This is a sample from my registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
"WiFiNetwork.exe" and YouTube.exe" were already there. I added "PIMHelper.exe" (editing inside SPB Diary Today plugin),
"ContactEditor.exe" (editing for Contacts), "tmail.exe" (editing for SMS and email) and "NOTEPAD.exe" (Orneta text editor).
Hope it helps.

That method worked for me for Pocket Informant, using "ignoreappPI"="PocketInformant.exe".
Thanks!

SOLVED!
oruam57 said:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
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Hope it helps.
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Brilliant - Thank you! This is EXACTLY what i was hoping for! Awesome!

Update:
I posted this brilliant solution to the standard thread for Rhodium Cabs,Tips,Tweaks etc
.. Thanks again oruam57!
Just a word of caution. My device already had [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs], with YouTube as the only exclusion, but i notice that the board seems to introduce a space into the "TFLOIgnoreAPPs" portion, which might cause problems for some folks who want to try this out.
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use. So I'll start looking at custom editors for Contacts now, but it's good to have this handy tweak within reach!

trids said:
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use.
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Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.

Hooray!
oruam57 said:
Hope it helps.
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Thank you soooo much oruam57! I searched for hours yesterday for a fix for this issue. It was driving me crazy. I made two of my own for ListPro and eWallet and they work great now too. THANKS!

oruam57 said:
Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
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@ Oruam57, you're right, thanks again! I was in fact using DotFred's Task Manager to discover the processes .. but i came to the incorrect conclusion (that there was no identifiable processes, for Tasks and for Contacts) because i saw no change in the processes listed between editing and not editing their notes, as poutlook.exe was still running after i edited the notes and while the list of tasks/contacts was still displayed.
And this is how I overlooked the possibility that poutlook.exe itself was the editor
BTW, i notice that the exclusion for poutlook.exe works for the notes of both Tasks AND Contacts, they seem to use the same editor. I have no ContactEditor.exe listed at all, must be for your custom editor.

I tried with on WLMMessenger.exe, but it didint work.
I still cant select ( highlight ) text from a conversation. When i do it begins to scroll..
Has anyone the solution?

Verizon TP2 - Selecting Text Issues

Hey gang,
I'm driving a Verizon TP2 with the standard ROM, TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38420.2 out of the box with WinMo 6.1. I'm still fairly new to WinMo and the TP2 and am having some frustration with selecting text, mainly with trying to select text that extends beyond the visible screen. I can select text that's on the screen easily enough, but when the text I want to select extends either above or below what's visible on the screen, I can't figure out how to get that extra bit of text.
For example, let's say I go into a sent email that has four total paragraphs of text, the first two of which are completely visible on the screen. I need to select and copy the first three paragraphs only. I can easily select the first two visible paragraphs, but I can't figure out how to scroll down and continue getting that third paragraph.
I've tried with my fingers and the stylus, with no luck. Once I have the visible text selected, if I scroll down with the scroll bar to get the text below, once I click on the text it deselects. I've also tried getting the screen to auto-scroll with the stylus as I'm selecting text, by keeping the stylus down at the bottom - much like you would with your mouse pointer in Outlook/Word on your computer - but it won't scroll.
I've read posts about using the shift and arrow keys, but I can't seem to make that work either. Selecting all the text, then copy/pasting that over and deleting the extra works in some situations but not all. I need to be able to select exactly and only the text I need before copy/paste.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
-Stever

I believe you have to map the shift function to a key and then go from there. Or you could highlight the first part, copy paste, scroll down, highlight the second part, copy paste.
I'm looking for a thread where someone asked a similar question

burtonsnow8 said:
I believe you have to map the shift function to a key and then go from there. Or you could highlight the first part, copy paste, scroll down, highlight the second part, copy paste.
I'm looking for a thread where someone asked a similar question
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I'm going to give Rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4 a try and see if that helps.
That being said, am I seriously *not* doing something stupid here? Is there really no built-in function to continue scrolling as you're selecting text with WinMo 6.1? I've really been enjoying WinMo 6.1 on my TP2 over my previous Blackberry experiences (including old non-touch and the Storm), but this seems like an amazing oversight.
Anyone know if this is corrected/included in WinMo 6.5?

Are you in TF3D or the standard windows view? In TF3d I cannot highlight any part of the message, I can only scroll. When I opened windows view (click all messages in the txt tab) I was able to touch click (hold down on screen) > "Make Selection" > and then highlight as much text as needed. It works exactly like excel and word mobile. I'm on Mighty Mikes 6.5 sense 2.1 rom.

Stever315 said:
I'm going to give Rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4 a try and see if that helps.
That being said, am I seriously *not* doing something stupid here? Is there really no built-in function to continue scrolling as you're selecting text with WinMo 6.1? I've really been enjoying WinMo 6.1 on my TP2 over my previous Blackberry experiences (including old non-touch and the Storm), but this seems like an amazing oversight.
Anyone know if this is corrected/included in WinMo 6.5?
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It may very well be a 6.1 vs 6.5 issue...I just confirmed that the problem exists on my T-mobile TP2 as well, stock 6.1 ROM.
I tried everything I could think of, with no luck...except for one thing: if you have the keyboard open when you start to select text, you can use the arrow keys to scroll up/down. Of course, it's not exactly easy to do that and hold the stylus on the screen, but if you're using your fingertips to select text, you might be able to get away with that.

strange keyboard issue - Pro 2

Have searched, but am fairly sure this specific one isn't covered:
Using |R|6.5.5|ROM|WWE| ★ Energy Series 23547/21895 |Mar 17| ★ Sense 2.5 ★
Go to "People" on the sliding bar, click "all people", then create a new contact to the SIM using the hw keyboard. Now, once added, go to create another contact to the SIM and this time when you press a key on the keyboard, the display will not accept the key input and will "scroll" slightly up (2 or 3 mm). So it gets rid of the on-screen QWERTY input (which always pops up when you tap into which box you want to type in), but doesn't accept the keyboard input.
Soft reset doesn't seem to help. Any ideas?

this is a rom specific question and should be posted in the thread of that rom.
Since the chefs get leaked roms and touchflo builds, there are some bugs that have yet to be ironed out.
also just tried on my device (running an the 3/5 NRG rom build 21XXX ) and everything works fine.

Much appreciated, since it's working on yours, will reflash first and see.
Thanks,
Raj

HTC Keyboard - Froyo

Hi all,
maybe this has been addressed somewhere already, but I haven't found it.
In stock Eclair there was a "hide" button on the onscreen keyboard. In all of the Sense Froyo ROMs I've used, there is a "change keyboard layout/language" button instead. Now if I want to hide the keyboard (e.g. to access controls that are under it) I have to either push the menu button or click somewhere outside a text control. This approach is rather clumsy, the "hide" button was much more useful.
Is there a way to restore this "hide" button? Or does someone has an apk of the Eclair sense keyboard that would work with Froyo?
Thanks

I think you need to search for HTC ime mod. HTC keyboard for stock android.

Push the back button and the keyboard disappears

I do know what Sigismund83 means and it's quite frustrating, I've only just got used to hiding the Keyboard by using the back button, but I wish there was a quick-hide button like there was prior to upgrading to Froyo. I've even had a dabble in the Android's keyboard, but the keyboard is too tall and when I'm creating an sms, I'd like to read over what I had prior and it's difficult to do so.
Gonna check out HTC IME Mod to see if that's any good.

Actually perfect! I've got it exactly how I want it after a few minutes of faffing about..
Sigismund83, you can download the keyboard from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
And the settings I use to make it look like Stock IME are as follows..
I deselected "Show candidates bar" and got rid of the "Smiley hack" within the User Interface by [email protected] and it was perfect.
Hope this helps
Oh and before I forget, if you've got Dropbox, best thing to do is upload the apks there then use the Dropbox app to download and the phone will prompt to install. But if you're not lazy (unlike me), just shove them on the memory card and install with ASTRO.

nteeb said:
Push the back button and the keyboard disappears
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This sure works too, but I'll look for the apk anyway. I was kinda used to this button (similar was also in WinMo devices). But I might as well change my habits

Worked
bigdan35 said:
Actually perfect! I've got it exactly how I want it after a few minutes of faffing about..
Sigmund83, you can download the keyboard from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
And the settings I use to make it look like Stock IME are as follows..
I deselected "Show candidates bar" and got rid of the "Smiley hack" within the User Interface by [email protected] and it was perfect.
Hope this helps
Oh and before I forget, if you've got Dropbox, best thing to do is upload the apks there then use the Dropbox app to download and the phone will prompt to install. But if you're not lazy (unlike me), just shove them on the memory card and install with ASTRO.
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YAY! Thank you very much, this one worked. Now the keyboard behaves exactly as I want.

You're welcome mate, anytime!
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