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[Q]FPSEce (Play Station One) for WVGA on WM 6.5.3

Hello everybody!!!
I think many HD users looked for good games for their devices. There are some really nice applications like Resco Bubbles, Experiment 13 etc. Also We can run Nintendo, Sega and other old games on HTC HD(with sortware multitouch support).
However, for my device I want at least psx games...(I am final fantasy and takken fan) I found emulators such as PocketISO and FPSEce, which allowed you run games from PS1. BUT I cant install it properly(I read many articles about it before start a new thread, but still cant find solution). Furthermore, I read, that FPSEce is not support WVGA(((
On Youtube I found many videos about FPSEce 0.10 working on Samsung Omnia and running psx games with full speed. I don't think that HTC HD is less powefull in turms of CPU and RAM than Omnia(maybe I am wrong).
So, can anybody explain me how to install it and (if possible) how to make it multitouch (like Morphgear with some skins and fix)?
I am using WM 6.5.3 by T2M(28004)
Thx in advance.

I try to run fpsece many times, but always whit poor result. The site appear old and no update. However, This progr starting directly from the executable file and work in the hd wvga, but can't start games for me

the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.

crashDebug said:
the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.
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Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.

aliff said:
Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.
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Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!

MAMeingast said:
Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0

I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )

smeddy said:
I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )
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Well, I hope you are wrong about release date...
About FPS: I have tried Final Fantasy 8 and during first video it worked with 25-35 frames per second. However, I can't start the game - I can see FF boot screen, but I can't move to the main menu. I pressed all buttons("x", "start" etc.) with no result, only "select" buttons works fine. What I did wrong? I have tried other games with the same result.

aliff said:
Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.

aliff said:
Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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bnm7bnm said:
all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.
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+1
Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)

MAMeingast said:
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Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)
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I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....

aliff said:
I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....
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Don't know, if CPU is everything... I know the Axim has a very powerful 2700G graphic chip the HD doesn't! (I owned a Axim before my HD...

this will be fantastic. i can't wait to try crash band on my Topaz

Hi maxcy,
I just installed Max Manila Ultimate 2.6 Beta and can confirm that it works perfectly with latest NRG ROMs. Once again you did an awesome job. I finally have my 16 shortcuts and bg4all back + a working action softkey. Thank you so much.

ps1 for wvga
hi guys i think fpsece looks really good im tired of the low quality mobile games they keep bringing out and this looks like it will be decent. just need to find out how to get all my favourite ps1 games on my storage card. i read on the oficial forum that the developer is thinking about charging £5 for the emulator when its available on wvga devices. well im sure he/ shes done alot of work and i for one think thats fair. i think it will be free if you dont want to save your game or something like that. just cant wait.

Hey GUYS!
FPSEce is released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.fpsece.net/downloads.htm

the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?

W.C. said:
the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?
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This software support WM 6.5.3, at least some ROMs. For example, it works on Flashmore's and XennyTech's ROMs.

where can we find some games?

hello00 said:
where can we find some games?
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google is your friend! can't really say, where you can find it.

Duel Core Phones?

Hi,
There hasn't been much if any news about duel core WP7 devices. It would be nice if M$ or any of the manufactures would update us on their newer devices.

I don't know how the cores dueling is going to help performance but I'd like to see some 'duel' core phones too.
Dual core phones would be nice too

Phone Titan said:
Hi,
There hasn't been much if any news about duel core WP7 devices. It would be nice if M$ or any of the manufactures would update us on their newer devices.
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It would be nice if we could change the CPU like a desktop or laptop (that is not made by Apple obviously), unfortunately, that wouldn't be happening anytime soon.
Oh right, I have a feeling that we will see them when people actually care.

I still can't see why so many people keep talking about dual core phones.
There are no operating systems or even apps that would be able to utilise a dual core system, so there would be zero benefit.

What applications do you have that need dual cores?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

the_scotsman said:
I still can't see why so many people keep talking about dual core phones.
There are no operating systems or even apps that would be able to utilise a dual core system, so there would be zero benefit.
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Totally agree, that's my thoughts ;D I got Omnia7 for 600$ which is very low in my country, but those with dual cores will cost 200$ or even more, than I got my Omnia7. And the benefits from them? Now there are none

landwomble said:
What applications do you have that need dual cores?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Only games for the most part. Imagine dual core right now like quad core for your computer.

It was said that the upcoming OS update would bring support to the Qualcomm 7x30 chip, which is an improved version of the current Snapdragon but unfortunately is not dual core.

canadariot2312 said:
Only games for the most part. Imagine dual core right now like quad core for your computer.
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There are no games created to be laggy on single core 1Ghz processor now. And Well, I don't want to play super duper games, that eat a lot of power, I have PSP and Computer for them. For simpler games, they work perfectly now

Eh, my single core runs WP7 games smoother than androids dual cores run their games mainly because of things like multi-tasking and improper use of hardware. I still dont think android has a game that can go toe to toe with ilomilo in terms of... well... anything amd it runs flawlessly.

Niiceg said:
There are no games created to be laggy on single core 1Ghz processor now. And Well, I don't want to play super duper games
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Really? Please do some research, as this is a topic that is full of BS lies. There are a lot of games that lag on 1ghz, especially the new ones.

z33dev33l said:
Eh, my single core runs WP7 games smoother than androids dual cores run their games mainly because of things like multi-tasking and improper use of hardware. I still dont think android has a game that can go toe to toe with ilomilo in terms of... well... anything amd it runs flawlessly.
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Your WP7 isn't even capable of running the new games, so how is that possible?

vetvito said:
Really? Please do some research, as this is a topic that is full of BS lies. There are a lot of games that lag on 1ghz, especially the new ones.
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On WP7? Well, I don't play need for speed and games that requires a lot resources, because that's why computers and PSPs are

vetvito said:
Your WP7 isn't even capable of running the new games, so how is that possible?
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What do you mean by "the new ones" because I have every game released with heavy graphics and the only slow point in the games is the initial startup which im ok with.

Niiceg said:
On WP7? Well, I don't play need for speed and games that requires a lot resources, because that's why computers and PSPs are
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Need for speed doesn't use a lot of resources.

z33dev33l said:
What do you mean by "the new ones" because I have every game released with heavy graphics and the only slow point in the games is the initial startup which im ok with.
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No you don't because they're not on WP7. IOS and Android only right now.

vetvito said:
Need for speed doesn't use a lot of resources.
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My mind was that I don't play games which uses a lot of resources, phones are not for them...

vetvito said:
No you don't because they're not on WP7. IOS and Android only right now.
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Like what? on android? the only playable game on there that doesnt have a port to WP7 is angry birds
Iphone of course has rage HD which is awesome but even ilomilo has better graphics than any android game and thats an early game. Best game on android that doesnt have a port aside from angry birds... probably dungeon hunter HD... graphics are about at par with my old sega saturn.

z33dev33l said:
Like what? on android? the only playable game on there that doesnt have a port to WP7 is angry birds
Iphone of course has rage HD which is awesome but even ilomilo has better graphics than any android game and thats an early game. Best game on android that doesnt have a port aside from angry birds... probably dungeon hunter HD... graphics are about at par with my old sega saturn.
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Yeah you're clueless. Try Dungeon Defenders along with a host of others.
Ilomo has better graphics? Who has the better gaming engine?
Please do some research, please.

vetvito said:
Yeah you're clueless. Try Dungeon Defenders along with a host of others.
Ilomo has better graphics? Who has the better gaming engine?
Please do some research, please.
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Honestly wasnt aware they finally released that. Android finally has something over WP7 in my opinion. That's cool really, i envy that game but meh, one game isnt going to sale me over a fluid user friendly UI but no sarcasm or anything I really am envious of that game and with windows and unreal being tied together so much I'd love to see a port. I guess I havent paid that much attention to android since that game was in it's beta stage.

Does all games work without lag in Defy

I need a new mobile.I have considered Desire and Defy.The only difference between this two is the processor.Defy has 800MHz Cortex-A8 processor and the desire has 1 GHz Scorpion processor.Which is the best between these two.I need it mainly for gaming.So i need all the latest games to work without any lag.Does heavy games run on Defy without any lag?
Sorry for my Bad English

Not an expert in games here... but i can tell you Cortex from TI is much better in terms of performances. I'd go for Defy even if the Qualcomm cpu inside Desire clocks 200mhz more...
EDIT: also consider the PowerVR 530 graphic chip inside the Defy, it's not bad for gaming. AFAIK you can run any game with no problems provided that you download the powerVR version of the game (i mean, forget those Tegra2 or Xperia Play dedicated games)

For processor of defy, tout can overclock it to 1.2 ghz. for tegra games, download chain fire 3d from market. You have to be rooted to do both.
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.

xdaid said:
Not an expert in games here... but i can tell you Cortex from TI is much better in terms of performances. I'd go for Defy even if the Qualcomm cpu inside Desire clocks 200mhz more...
EDIT: also consider the PowerVR 530 graphic chip inside the Defy, it's not bad for gaming. AFAIK you can run any game with no problems provided that you download the powerVR version of the game (i mean, forget those Tegra2 or Xperia Play dedicated games)
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How does one distinguish between powerVR and Tegra2 versions of games in the Android Market?

Izak80 said:
How does one distinguish between powerVR and Tegra2 versions of games in the Android Market?
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Oh don't worry for that, the Android Market (at least the "desktop version") will tell you whether a game is compatible with your device or not. In the mobile version should be even easier since the game won't appear at all.

xdaid said:
Oh don't worry for that, the Android Market (at least the "desktop version") will tell you whether a game is compatible with your device or not. In the mobile version should be even easier since the game won't appear at all.
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Ok, then i dont have to think about it, good. Thanks for the info. By the way, bought a wonderful little game today called "They need to be fed", what a fun and addiciting game it turned out to be.

PSP emulator for HOX?

I'm not first nor last who is asking that question, but now, with the quad-core Tegra 3 phones it could be possible to emulate PSP (or even PS2).
So, is there/anyone working on something of that kind?
And please, don't flame me, I'm aware of another simmilar threads, but none of them are "fresh" ones.

i'm pretty sure this is the answer:
the resources that would be needed to emulate the ps2s hardware is too much currently. i think unless somebody wrote a specific tegra 3 ps2 emulator, it *might* be possible, but even then wouldn't be perfect. there would be framerate drops etc etc.
i know theres some for pcs, but obviously pc cpus/gpus are a bit more mature, and obviously have specific instruction sets etc that can be utilized more efficiently.

Nope, not even the more powerful SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.

cccy said:
Nope, not even the more less SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.
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Fixed also I can sell you an anti flame vest for $200 usd. You might need it.
As for psp and ps2 emulation is very primitive on the pc right now so I don't expect a emu any time soon on android and fyi my buddies i5 desktop pc can barely run ps2 games at full speed. I don't expect an android device to get close to that.
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Yeah, you're right, even in PCSX2 on my 3,1 GHz i5 & Radeon HD6870 machine with 8GB RAM are some games pretty slow sometimes. But I'm using some graphics enhancements (like antialiasing etc.), so I was thinking about original PS2-like graphics...
Nevermind, it was just an idea. I should sleep more and think less. :laugh:
I should've been happy for PS1 emulator right now.

[Q] Can Xperia Play run Dosbox Turbo games like Doom at decent framerates?

I just got a LG970 white for free, i've checked the specs and I think it has exactly the same CPU and graphic processor as the Xperia Play. Just tested Dosbox Turbo and I was pretty dissapointed with the performance, the games are unplayable. Im limited to 2000 cycles tho, because I got the apk of Dosbox "for free" and it says I dont have a license to use higher cycles.
All im asking is: can anyone try doom in Dosbox Turbo and tell me how many framerates are you getting? If it's as ****ty then im not going to bother with buying an Xperia Play becuase I wanted it for Dosbox Turbo mostly (and obviously the sliding gamepad)

cmon anyone?

dukedoom said:
cmon anyone?
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I don't have my XPlay with me currently but when I get it back I'll test it? Do you plan on overclocking?

SubjectSigma said:
I don't have my XPlay with me currently but when I get it back I'll test it? Do you plan on overclocking?
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Well I would like to avoid OC as much as possible. I would like to see how Dosbox Turbo with the optimal cycles configuration runs on games like:
Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Warcraft 2
Starcraft
Age of Empires 2
basically the good ol dos games

Here's Doom 2 if anyone wants to try:
https://mega.co.nz/#!GR813arY!SDtzDSAHxTMV_GwZOPbWTRL7iSkjlR2EbwswyVByxY8

anyone please??

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anyone please??
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i would like to test warcraft and age of empires pm me with how to test them and give me links thx.

On Xperia Play, speed on dos emulators is about as Pentium I at 66MHz.
Hardly Doom can be playable (but i'm sure it will work)
For me, even Settlers 2 run slowly (but playable)

Bakisha said:
On Xperia Play, speed on dos emulators is about as Pentium I at 66MHz.
Hardly Doom can be playable (but i'm sure it will work)
For me, even Settlers 2 run slowly (but playable)
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Doom runs pretty smooth on a 486 so it should be perfectly smooth on a Pentium I at 66mhz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWHo74jiLh4
Can anyone try it out with Dosbox Turbo and confirm? Be sure you are using Dosbox Turbo and not other emulator because others suck. Also enable the correct cycles.

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dukedoom said:
anyone please??
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I could try for you, but I don't have any idea of how emulate these games on my play. If you have some tutorials it would be nice

Depends on the game. DOSbox Turbo, while very robust for what it is, cannot perform miracles on aged hardware such the Xperia Play. Running DOOM or DOOM II on DOSbox Turbo on this device is not very good (I have multiple Plays) even with generous overclocks. Anything which uses the BUILD engine such as Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, Redneck Rampage etc... runs even worse.
In terms of relative consideration, these pieces of software were quite taxing on the hardware available at the time.
Warcraft II runs very well under DOSbox Turbo. Starcraft would not as it is win32 based and not DOS based. You could use Winulator which specifically runs Starcraft but I believe it has an intolerance for Gingerbread.
If you wish to run DOOM or any of the ID Tech 1 based games I would suggest using source ports such as the excellent ports by Kokak such as DoomGLES etc...