Hi guys,
Just got a shiny new Touch Pro2 from Vodafone UK and really liking it! Only thing is I really dont like the Vodafone theme and everything, and would love to have the original HTC software on. Few questions:
Is this possible?
Will it affect anything?
Will it allow me to do any hotfixes/updates that HTC release without having to wait for Vodafone to release their custom fw?
Has anyone with a Vodafone TP2 done it and got any advice?
Thanks guys.
fro5tie said:
Is this possible?
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yes. you first have to install hardspl. hardspl is a software that after being flashed onto your phone making it accepting any firmware (including self-made).
fro5tie said:
Will it affect anything?
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possibly your warranty.
fro5tie said:
Will it allow me to do any hotfixes/updates that HTC release without having to wait for Vodafone to release their custom fw?
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yes. no need to wait. anyways, if you are looking for cutting edge firmware you probably want to try the roms (firmware) that have been created by forum members.
Thanks for the reply!
Not bothered about affecting warranty as from what I gather it only affects the warranty with Vodafone, but the HTC warranty will still remain.
Will read up on hardspl then and see what I can do.
Any advice from any Voda customers who have done this would be good
Thanks again
I have a Vodafone TP2, and installed HSPL as soon as I could to get rid of that awful red theme vodafone though was a good idea! I've tried various different ROMS with no issues, so go ahead and do it. Turning the phone on and not seeing that horrible red clock was great the first time I did it!!
Hi there,
Also a Vodafone TP2 user. I've flashed HardPL and Energy's Warhawk Rom and its amazing!!!
Waiting for the Genesis version to be a little more stable then will upgrade to that.
Only Issue I have is I can't yet find a way to get rid of the Vodafone screen that pops up on first turning the phone on. (Boot Splash screen).
Have a good read of the HardSPL thread, Flashing your first Rom and then have a go.
If you are in any doubt go back and read it again.
Good luck and enjoy!
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i just got this phone nice phone dont know much about pda phones was wondering if wm6 can be upgraded to this phone or unlocked thanks
does anyone know anything more about this?
Also interested to know whether or not one can flash a GSM tytn rom to the Telus P4000??????????????
My general understanding about flashing the "Titan" with a "tytn" rom is that your going to brick your phone. The two phones are completly different, there are some people working on getting a ROM out there, also there is word that an WM6 update is comming soon.
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My general understanding about flashing the "Titan" with a "tytn" rom is that your going to brick your phone. The two phones are completly different, there are some people working on getting a ROM out there, also there is word that an WM6 update is comming soon.
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Thanks Stuie, I wasnt aware of that. I know I would've attempted to flash that Telus P4000 sometime or later with a TyTn rom.
Hi All,
Sorry, there is so much information on this site, i'm lost.
Can someone please provide links to what I need to download and install to upgrade a stock standard telstra diamond touch so I can get it working correctly with Optus?
Thanks.
OK, i've upgraded the bootloader to the hard spl, and the radio version is already at 1.00.25.06 (do you think its worth downgrading to 1.00.25.05??)
Now, what's the most popular rom for the diamond? What do people suggest?
Thanks.
Zanthiud said:
OK, i've upgraded the bootloader to the hard spl, and the radio version is already at 1.00.25.06 (do you think its worth downgrading to 1.00.25.05??)
Now, what's the most popular rom for the diamond? What do people suggest?
Thanks.
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I'm using Dutty's ROM at the mement. But I will be using this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438313
when its bugs get sorted out since its based on the Diamond 2 thingo or whatever so it'll have some new features.
I'm the same as you. Bought the Telstra Diamond and chucked in my Optus SIM. Pretty much just have to any ROM and you won't have to see the Telstra branding everywhere.
That ROM you linked looks rather spic. What issues are stopping you from flashing that ROM now?
Zanthiud said:
That ROM you linked looks rather spic. What issues are stopping you from flashing that ROM now?
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To be honest I didn't find out about that ROM until just before I found your post, Mainly time has been stopping me and the hassle, and I read that there are some little bugs that it has when skimming through the thread but there was nothing that was bad enough to make me not upgrade. Just don't want to Flash to the ROM and then have a new revision come out two days later which is better.
Think I'll upgrade to this ROM right not though
Thanks for your post.
I decided to use the rom that you linked to, and found found it a 1000% improvement from the Tesltra one.
Only issue I have found so far is trouble connecting to wifi networks. Will have a bit more of a play soon.
Apart from that, it's good.
I 'downgraded' to the 1.00.25.05 radio and seemed to get alot better battery life from it.
Regarding ROMs, I agree almost anything is better than the stock Telstra one
hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..
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hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
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Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
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i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..
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1. Yes your phone is unlocked, but you are using a rogers customized ROM. Try a different ROM to remove it.
2. No, Hard-SPL will not remove it. You'll need to flash another ROM to do that.
3. Firstly, if you are flashing/upgrading a new firmware (we call it ROM) then all data will permanently removed.
There are some packs to revert your ROM back to stock, but I don't know if there are any Rogers ROM's available on the net.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!
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Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!
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hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone
Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir..
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hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone
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No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
farhan_ds said:
Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir.
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The splash screen is a harder part to do. You need Patchsplash to patch your splash screen. In that way, the splash screen should appear right. Note that the procedure to do that is pretty hard. Here are some more instructions if you didn't get it.
And about a Diamond stock ROM, take a look here. A 2.03.4 ROM including a new radio and the splash screen.
Good luck guys!
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No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
Good luck guys!
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thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man
devillblood said:
thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man
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No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,
[ElCondor] said:
No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,
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haha yes i know they are all better then the stock roms, but i was wondering if u could guide me, since there are a lot of roms, i am looking for one that has a nice interface, is fast, and wm 6.5 if possible would be awesome
thanks a lot for ur help
Hi All
This is my first visit for years since owning an original XDA so I am not up to speed and would appreciate some expert guidance if you would be so kind.
I have just bought an HTC Desire and have several questions :-
a) it is an Orange branded HTC Desire bought of eBay which I have now unlocked but it still has all of the horrible Orange branding. I am running the current great Tesco deal (£10 pm, 500 any minutes, unlimited internet (500mb AU) so running costs will be low
I still have access to an Orange PAYG sim
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ???;
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Really sorry for the barrage of questions but I would appreciate any guidance you can give
Thanks to you all
Hi freebooter,
I have answered each of your questions below.
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ?
You shouldn't need to, the phone will look for the updates, not the sim card. When Orange release their update, it won't matter what SIM you are using.
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
It will be Orange who supply your update, unless you debrand and flash a HTC or custom ROM.
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
Yes, look in the development forum, and read the first few sticky posts.
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
The phone would notify you
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
If you do that, you won't get the Orange update, but you should get the htc ones. Bear in kind some networks may not honourhonour your warranty if you debrand/flash a new ROM.
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Again, look say the first few posts in the development forum....
I hope the answers help, please feel free to ask more if you are unsure.
Zippyioa
Thanks Zippyioa - your reply is very helpful and has given me more confidence to try to get rid of the Orange bloatware
I am still a little confused about the huge range of roms available to download and a bit nervous about trying a customsied rom so can you recommend a good up to date rom that will put me on the HTC OTA upgrade path ?
(By the way, how are things in Stratford ? I used to live just up the road in Hockley Heath)
You won't need to root if you want to intend your desire. You just need need to create a goldcard. Guides in the developers forum. You then find the unbranded ruu. Further guides are in the development section.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
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Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
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Stratford is great, strangely we were just in Solihull so went through hockley heath to get there!
I think the last poster meant debrand not intend? Anyway, you are right about the goldcard, just make sure you put it in again if you do an OTA upgrade!
As for the unlock code, once you apply it Oranges sim lock is removed.it shouldn't come back but I would keep it just in case.
You also asked me which ROM I would suggest, I haven't tried any as I am still using the stock T-Mobile one, but Paul at MoDaCo has always made first class roms and you can choose the contents yourself in his kitchen
zippyioa
Sorry yes I meant debrand (I'm trying to use swype ) you will need a spare micro sd card for a gold card as when some ota updates arrive they will not be accepted unless you have a gold card. The unbranded rom will be instead of the orange rom. If you ever need to put the orange rom back on the phone you won't be able to as the orange ruu hasn't been leaked so keep that in mind.
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Thanks for the responses
As I am not on Orange as service provider , what I really want to do is to get to as pure an HTC unbranded state in the hope that I will be able to get HTC OTA updates for Froyo and subsequents.
To be honest, custom roms are a bit scary at my level of knowledge as I don't want to brick an expensive handset (no disrespect to the clever guys who are cooking this stuff in their kitchens) so I will be looking for the most up to date HTC roms I can source.
One thing I can't figure is how HTC OTAs work as I would have thought that the service providers pump their updates out across their networks so how do unbranded handsets get updated ?
The way I understand it, it is the handset that looks for updates, based on the rom you have installed.
I currently have a t-mobile handset with a vodafone sim. I just got the t-mobile update as that is what the phone had installed on it.
zippyioa
Thanks zippyioa
So to get an update from Orange, I would have to leave it as Orange branded but , as I don't like the Orange customisations anyway, I would have to debrand it after their Froyo release ?
As this would still involve flashing a non Orange rom, am I right in thinking that I might as well find (if available) a current HTC Froyo rom and flash to that now ?
If I understand correctly, there is no benefit in waiting for Orange or am I utterly confused ?
Does anyone with an unbranded have an experience of an OTA HTC upgrade ?
Thanks
That's the way I understand it!
The only downside to debranding is that the operator warranty is usually void. I am not sure if HTC still cover it though?
The warranty isnt covered I dont think but you can check. An advantage to unbranding is that you will receive ota updates sooner and you won't have all the orange bloatware installed.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi there XDA, I've asked a similar question to this before, however since then some things have changed and it's got me wondering, what the hell is going on over at HTC with these software build numbers?
I recently aquired a replacement phone from Orange UK for a Desire HD. The software version on the phone I sent to them was 1.32, however the phone I recieved was running a software version of 1.72, I know for a fact that when I sent that phone to them, there were no updates available, and the thing is, it's a door to door thing. Both handsets are exactly the same, they are both de-branded yet have an Orange logo on the back.
It's sorta fustrating because I know that one of these builds i clearly the one I should have, but I don't know which is which, would someone be kind enough to explain and point me in the right direction of the ROM i should flash? Thanks, and btw im in the UK.
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Hi there XDA, I've asked a similar question to this before, however since then some things have changed and it's got me wondering, what the hell is going on over at HTC with these software build numbers?
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Nothing to get. The higher the number the newer the version.
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I recently aquired a replacement phone from Orange UK for a Desire HD. The software version on the phone I sent to them was 1.32, however the phone I recieved was running a software version of 1.72,
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So you got a phone back with a newer software version on it.
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I know for a fact that when I sent that phone to them, there were no updates available, and the thing is, it's a door to door thing. Both handsets are exactly the same, they are both de-branded yet have an Orange logo on the back.
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Really? For a FACT?? ok..
jaaystott said:
It's sorta fustrating because I know that one of these builds i clearly the one I should have, but I don't know which is which, would someone be kind enough to explain and point me in the right direction of the ROM i should flash? Thanks, and btw im in the UK.
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If you want to root etc it would be easier on the 1.32 version but is still easy to do on the 1.72 version, you just use a different approach.
All the answers you need are in the development forum. Don't need to put a link here for you, it's not hard to find. Alternatively, use the link in my sig.
What ROM you SHOULD flash is up to YOU. YOU decide what one YOU like the most.
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Nothing to get. The higher the number the newer the version.
So you got a phone back with a newer software version on it.
Really? For a FACT?? ok..
If you want to root etc it would be easier on the 1.32 version but is still easy to do on the 1.72 version, you just use a different approach.
All the answers you need are in the development forum. Don't need to put a link here for you, it's not hard to find. Alternatively, use the link in my sig.
What ROM you SHOULD flash is up to YOU. YOU decide what one YOU like the most.
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Didn't really want a sarcastic approach to this but ok :/ I heard that the 1.72 update was pulled, I don't want a rooted phone, I want the most upto date possible...
jaaystott said:
Didn't really want a sarcastic approach to this but ok :/ I heard that the 1.72 update was pulled, I don't want a rooted phone, I want the most upto date possible...
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Then be happy. The phone you got back is more up to date then the one you sent off.
Big grins yes?
jaaystott said:
I heard that the 1.72 update was pulled, I don't want a rooted phone, I want the most upto date possible...
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Your in luck, if you do not want to root, and have a unbranded handset you can have official HTC Gingerbread. An HTC RUU with the upcoming 2.3 release was leaked.
Check THIS thread and download the RUU.exe