Hello, Im probably buying TP2 and one main features i want is that noice cancelling microphone.
Does it work while in normal calls or just in straight talk mode?
it works only during normal calls and not in handsfree mode.
That's wrong. It works automatically with the speakerphone function. For normal calls you can activate it. There are three settings for normal calls:
"On", "Automatic", and "Off". "On" has constant noise cancellation and will use more CPU and therefore I'm guessing will run down the battery faster. "Automatic" takes a sampling at the beginning of the call and based on that uses one set of noise cancellation for the entire call, which means if you change from a quiet to a noisy environment mid-call it won't help you much. "Off" I'm guessing is self evident. you have to choose the setting before the call is made/answered for it to be of any effect.
This is all in the manual.
thank you much, this helped me lots.
noise cancelling is best feature for some time in phones.
solsearch said:
That's wrong. It works automatically with the speakerphone function. For normal calls you can activate it. There are three settings for normal calls:
"On", "Automatic", and "Off". "On" has constant noise cancellation and will use more CPU and therefore I'm guessing will run down the battery faster. "Automatic" takes a sampling at the beginning of the call and based on that uses one set of noise cancellation for the entire call, which means if you change from a quiet to a noisy environment mid-call it won't help you much. "Off" I'm guessing is self evident. you have to choose the setting before the call is made/answered for it to be of any effect.
This is all in the manual.
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where are these options?
pigphish said:
where are these options?
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There were on old official WinMo 6.1 ROM..
I can't say where are in Wm6.5 update..
Well.. I wonder IF it is enabled on wm 6.5...................
pigphish said:
where are these options?
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For 6.1:
Start-settings-personal (tab)-phone
Then you'll need to scroll to the right, across the bottom tabs, until you get to the one that says "advanced". The drop-down list with these options will be at the bottom of the options on that tab.
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During a phone call the action you need to do to record the audio will be to temporarily remove the pennino.Non everyone may be aware that in this way activates the "NOTES" WM. Another way may be to click on the button pad "NOTE" '.
When the 'known' to the screen you will see lines with 'caller', 'society', 'telephone num', 'Notes' ...
Now you click on 'Menu' at the bottom right and in the drop-down menu click on the first page or 'Show registration bar ...'
A bar with a record rec button in red, then stop, play to finish with the volume button (last on the right). While calling and then click on the red rec button and start recording the phone call!
When you want then simply click the stop button to end recording x! To appreciate the whole do not have to do other than click on simbolino sound that you will have to close on the note "Note." To go instead to retrieve your records do not have to let go on the program ke NOTE, in this program. From there you can also set the target memory on which the audio file will be recorded (from Menu> Options> Save in).
Too much work dude. Just intall Vito Audio Notes Touch, and check "Calls Autorecord" option in the setting.
Once done, just use your phone the normal work with no added step at all. It will record without you realising it, and automatically label the came of the other person called, data and time of call.
No tweaks involved. Both sides of the conversation are clear, although the other side is slightly softer. Need not turn on the speaker.
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Too much work dude. Just intall Vito Audio Notes Touch, and check "Calls Autorecord" option in the setting.
Once done, just use your phone the normal work with no added step at all. It will record without you realising it, and automatically label the came of the other person called, data and time of call.
No tweaks involved. Both sides of the conversation are clear, although the other side is slightly softer. Need not turn on the speaker.
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Great!Thank you!
however, this way and free, as it is included in wm6!
Vito Audio Notes Touch documentation says you must have it om speakerphone to get both sides.... this isnt true?
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Too much work dude. Just intall Vito Audio Notes Touch, and check "Calls Autorecord" option in the setting.
Once done, just use your phone the normal work with no added step at all. It will record without you realising it, and automatically label the came of the other person called, data and time of call.
No tweaks involved. Both sides of the conversation are clear, although the other side is slightly softer. Need not turn on the speaker.
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Please note that this works (and pls correct me if I'm wrong) on 1.19 ROMs and their derivatives only. Recordings with 1.14 ROMs (like mine..) suffer from a terrible quality issue from the other side of the call.
I don't want to upgrade yet, because this is the only issue that bothers me and I don't want to take any risks.
in settings->phone one can turn the noise cancellation for phone calls on, off or set it to automatic. what does automatic mean?
"On" refers to constant effort on the phone for noise cancellation, provides the best quality/effect.
"Automatic" means that the phone will sample the noise level at the beginning of the call and then apply that as the level of noise cancellation for the entire call.
The "on" option provides better quality but will drain the battery faster as it requires more processing power. The second one will provide some noise cancellation but not as good, but on the other hand it will also be the best middle point between noise cancellation and battery usage.
"Off" obviously just means off and won't require any extra effort from the processor and the battery.
solsearch said:
"On" refers to constant effort on the phone for noise cancellation, provides the best quality/effect.
"Automatic" means that the phone will sample the noise level at the beginning of the call and then apply that as the level of noise cancellation for the entire call.
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this means that if i start a call in my house and go outside (there is a noisy street in front of my house) the cancellation does not get activated, right?
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The "on" option provides better quality but will drain the battery faster as it requires more processing power.
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Where did you get the information on energy consumption from? i checked the manual, unfortunately it did not contain any valuable information about the noise cancellation.
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The second one will provide some noise cancellation [...] middle point between noise cancellation and battery usage.
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it does not sound plausible to me that there is a relation between the aggressiveness of the noise cancellation and the requirement for processing power.
From page 53 and 54 of the manual:
To turn noise reduction on or off
When you are using the earpiece and not the speakerphone during a call, you can
tap Menu > Noise Reduction On to reduce ambient noise if the other party cannot
hear your voice clearly. When noise reduction is not needed, tap Menu > Noise
Reduction Off to disable it and save battery power.
You can also turn noise reduction on or off in the Phone settings. Tap Start >
Settings > All Settings > Personal tab > Phone > Advanced tab and then select
one of the following settings in the Reduce noise in phone calls drop-down list:
Automatically. Analyzes ambient noise only at the beginning of a connected
call and applies a certain noise reduction setting based on the detected
noise. However, when you move to a noisier environment during the call,
your device will not further decrease noise based on your new location.
Always. Always reduces ambient noise during the entire course of your phone call.
Never. Turns off noise reduction.
Notes
• If you want to change the noise reduction setting to Automatically, make sure to do this before starting a call.
• Noise reduction is not used when you have a wired or Bluetooth headset connected.
And actually the relationship between noise cancellation and processing power is logical. When it is on "automatically" it analyzes, then sets a level of noise cancellation for the entire call. If it on "always" or "on" as it appears on your phone, then it is constantly analyzing the noise levels, not just at the beginning. It is processing the noise levels, thereby requiring more processing power
Hope this helps.
solsearch said:
From page 53 and 54 of the manual
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damn i somehow missed that paragraph, thank you!
No prob. Now go and enjoy your phone and play with it some more
solsearch said:
From page 53 and 54 of the manual:
To turn noise reduction on or off
When you are using the earpiece and not the speakerphone during a call, you can
tap Menu > Noise Reduction On to reduce ambient noise if the other party cannot
hear your voice clearly. When noise reduction is not needed, tap Menu > Noise
Reduction Off to disable it and save battery power.
You can also turn noise reduction on or off in the Phone settings. Tap Start >
Settings > All Settings > Personal tab > Phone > Advanced tab and then select
one of the following settings in the Reduce noise in phone calls drop-down list:
Automatically. Analyzes ambient noise only at the beginning of a connected
call and applies a certain noise reduction setting based on the detected
noise. However, when you move to a noisier environment during the call,
your device will not further decrease noise based on your new location.
Always. Always reduces ambient noise during the entire course of your phone call.
Never. Turns off noise reduction.
Notes
• If you want to change the noise reduction setting to Automatically, make sure to do this before starting a call.
• Noise reduction is not used when you have a wired or Bluetooth headset connected.
And actually the relationship between noise cancellation and processing power is logical. When it is on "automatically" it analyzes, then sets a level of noise cancellation for the entire call. If it on "always" or "on" as it appears on your phone, then it is constantly analyzing the noise levels, not just at the beginning. It is processing the noise levels, thereby requiring more processing power
Hope this helps.
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I don't have an advanced in phone and the option is greyed out during a call. Did you do something special to get these?
i dont have even grayed advance option in my htc hd2. can some tell how to find it?
danial_21st said:
i dont have even grayed advance option in my htc hd2. can some tell how to find it?
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Buy a Captivate.
I'm having a serious issue with my Verizon TP2, sometimes the other end of the call (the person I'm speaking with) cannot hear me. Sometimes it happens in the middle of the call, other times it happens immediately and even after hanging up and calling back, it still occurs and isn't rectified until I perform a soft reset. I haven't installed any cab's or app's that would alter audio or the microphone, and my hand is not covering the microphone when speaking and the mute is not activated (although the symptoms would make it seem like it is).
Any idea's why this is happening?
Much thanks.
Bit of a long shot, but have you tried toggling the Auto Volume Control?
It's in the Settings Tab > All Settings (Left softkey) > System tab.
I had this set to 'enabled' once whilst recording a voice commentary, but it turned down the sensitivity of the mic during a segment with some background noise. I resolved this by disabling the setting. Your mileage may vary.
Im suspect there is no noise cancelling on this phone which Samsung built it.
How to enable noise cancelling when in call??? Samsung dont want to answer
and also why this phone keep switch it display on automatically when in idle (switch off the display)
Yes it did. The 2nd mic is in the back under small notch of back cover. That's the noise cancelling microphone.
If you don't want the screen to turn off there is a setting for that.
Unfortunately the second mic does not work for noise cancellation during calls. Only for video recording. The hardware is not present to use it during phone calls.
RogerPodacter said:
Unfortunately the second mic does not work for noise cancellation during calls. Only for video recording. The hardware is not present to use it during phone calls.
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That seems rather silly. I was wondering if this was the reason groove ip behaves so differently than on my other phone but I guess not if it's not being used...
Looking to see who else out there is using Groove IP and what settings you have found to work the best. I can't seem to pin down the right combo so I am going to try crowdsourcing.
http://snrblabs.com/snrb/grooveIp.aspx
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
Are you having issues w/ sound distortion over WiFi?
The default settings work fine on most devices, and the changes I've made are minor.
Using version 1.2.21:
-Allow 3G/4G calling
-Accept calls on answer
-turned off DTMF feedback under Audio/Echo settings
-turned on Keep Screen On and Sync Voice under Troubleshooting
What are your Speaker and Mic gain settings? I am only calling over WiFi
Phillip Fry said:
What are your Speaker and Mic gain settings? I am only calling over WiFi
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Speaker vol: 10
Mic gain (bluetooth as well): 0
Echo Cancellation: On, with Auto Detect
I haven't noticed any issues on my end by tweaking these settings, but can also say things worked fairly well on default.
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What are your Speaker and Mic gain settings? I am only calling over WiFi
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What kind of issues are you running into? Defaults should be good for the Galaxy Nexus. One thing to watch out for is by default the Galaxy Nexus puts the wifi into a power saving state when the screen turns off. You can change that from the android settings->wifi settings->advanced wifi settings, or enable Keep Screen Alive in GrooVe IP.
I get noticeable lags using Groove IP on my Galaxy Nexus. The extent varies - it's sometimes less than half a second, but often close to two seconds. Happens both incoming and outgoing. I am using the default settings except for the volume. If this matters, the lag is there both on Wi-Fi and 3G.
Phone: Galaxy Nexus (GSM Unlocked)
Carrier: T-Mobile
Region: Seattle
Any advice would be appreciated.
daihard said:
I get noticeable lags using Groove IP on my Galaxy Nexus. The extent varies - it's sometimes less than half a second, but often close to two seconds. Happens both incoming and outgoing. I am using the default settings except for the volume. If this matters, the lag is there both on Wi-Fi and 3G.
Phone: Galaxy Nexus (GSM Unlocked)
Carrier: T-Mobile
Region: Seattle
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Few things can cause lag. First would be latency on the data connection. Apps running on the device that use cpu or data...or battery manager or task killer apps could also cause problems with calls. We are also working on a new update that should improve the in-app delay for audio. On our Galaxy Nexus it seems to work pretty good so far. I think we'll have a beta for it ready sometime this weekend. We'll likely be posting it on our facebook page when it's ready. Oh, something on the device going into a power saving state would also cause delay. Keep Screen Alive can help with that.
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Few things can cause lag. First would be latency on the data connection. Apps running on the device that use cpu or data...or battery manager or task killer apps could also cause problems with calls. We are also working on a new update that should improve the in-app delay for audio. On our Galaxy Nexus it seems to work pretty good so far. I think we'll have a beta for it ready sometime this weekend. We'll likely be posting it on our facebook page when it's ready. Oh, something on the device going into a power saving state would also cause delay. Keep Screen Alive can help with that.
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Thanks for the update! I will await the new beta version. I'll keep an eye out on your FB page.
Besides the Keep Screen Alive option, are there other options that may help reduce the lag? I see things like Synchronize Voice and Mic Buffer. For instance, will it reduce delay if I change the Mic Buffer size from medium (default) to small?
Thanks again!
daihard said:
Thanks for the update! I will await the new beta version. I'll keep an eye out on your FB page.
Besides the Keep Screen Alive option, are there other options that may help reduce the lag? I see things like Synchronize Voice and Mic Buffer. For instance, will it reduce delay if I change the Mic Buffer size from medium (default) to small?
Thanks again!
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Synchronize Voice can help, I don't really use it on the Nexus. Changing the mic buffer to small should also help, that's one of the things we're changing. Small seems still too large. So we're going to be adjusting small to be smaller and make it the default.
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Synchronize Voice can help, I don't really use it on the Nexus. Changing the mic buffer to small should also help, that's one of the things we're changing. Small seems still too large. So we're going to be adjusting small to be smaller and make it the default.
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Thanks! I will make adjustments to those settings to see how it goes.
I wonder if there is plan to support more than one google voice login in Grooveip soon? Something that we can switch from one to another quickly?
testrider said:
I wonder if there is plan to support more than one google voice login in Grooveip soon? Something that we can switch from one to another quickly?
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Might not be soon but it is something we're working on. Right now you can switch users pretty quickly by going into the menu and pressing change user. But that's not the same as supporting multiple accounts. Battery life is also an issue with multiple sign ins, still working on it.
Hey is this beta or new version addressing the latency available yet? I have an Epic Touch 4G & have tried everything (spoken to support repeatedly over email - thanks!) & still get 1-2 second delay. Difficult to have a normal conversation as we keep cutting each other off as we think we're done speaking.
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Might not be soon but it is something we're working on. Right now you can switch users pretty quickly by going into the menu and pressing change user. But that's not the same as supporting multiple accounts. Battery life is also an issue with multiple sign ins, still working on it.
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Hey is this beta or new version addressing the latency available yet? I have an Epic Touch 4G & have tried everything (spoken to support repeatedly over email - thanks!) & still get 1-2 second delay. Difficult to have a normal conversation as we keep cutting each other off as we think we're done speaking.
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The latest version on the market has all our improvements for latency. There will still be latency from your network or from the device. Stopping apps running in the background can improve the device latency.
Well I downloaded that version and most of that lag seems to be gone. Yippee!
elcidroyale said:
Well I downloaded that version and most of that lag seems to be gone. Yippee!
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Glad that improved things. Thanks for the update.
I just purchased this after months of debate. Are there any settings to reduce the static on the other caller's end? I did some test calls with a friend's phone, except I was holding both devices in each hand. It doesn't matter who initiates the call, but they'll hear a static noise that doesn't happen if the call is made via mobile network. Could very well be Google Voice itself because people have mentioned it to me before before I purchased Groove IP, but I just want to be sure.
Also, sending and receiving bluetooth calls do work through my car stereo. But if I'm receiving a call, something is missing to tell the radio to pause/mute the music and start the ringer. The phone itself still rings and vibrates, but it's easy to miss a call if the music is loud enough. Is there an additional setting I'm missing? The function works properly if I'm using the regular phone app.
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I just purchased this after months of debate. Are there any settings to reduce the static on the other caller's end? I did some test calls with a friend's phone, except I was holding both devices in each hand. It doesn't matter who initiates the call, but they'll hear a static noise that doesn't happen if the call is made via mobile network. Could very well be Google Voice itself because people have mentioned it to me before before I purchased Groove IP, but I just want to be sure.
Also, sending and receiving bluetooth calls do work through my car stereo. But if I'm receiving a call, something is missing to tell the radio to pause/mute the music and start the ringer. The phone itself still rings and vibrates, but it's easy to miss a call if the music is loud enough. Is there an additional setting I'm missing? The function works properly if I'm using the regular phone app.
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The static could be because both phones were in close proximity to each other. Have you tried it with normal calls?
For incoming calls were you using the native music app or another app like pandora? We broadcast that a call is being made or received, the native music app should detect that, but an app like pandora may not since the app isn't the same as the native phone system.
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The static could be because both phones were in close proximity to each other. Have you tried it with normal calls?
For incoming calls were you using the native music app or another app like pandora? We broadcast that a call is being made or received, the native music app should detect that, but an app like pandora may not since the app isn't the same as the native phone system.
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You mean to a landline? I haven't. I did try with another person a few hundred feet away with the same results. I also talked to someone else for a few seconds, but the only thing they asked was if I was whispering. After I had posted on here, I changed my settings to the ones recommended from the "other" forum: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32464-voip-apps/page__st__10#entry902020. My voice was probably just low due to the low mic gain setting, but I'll leave things the way they are until I get more comments from people's calls.
As for the bluetooth issue, I'm not using my phone to play music. The music is through the radio, which utilizes bluetooth to make phone calls. Normal operation of incoming calls cuts the audio and rings through the car speakers until I pick up. With Groove IP calls enabled, only the phone is ringing and the music/car audio is still playing (which is usually louder than the phone's ringer). Hope that clears things up a little.
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