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http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
Black6spdZ said:
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
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Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!!
interesting
Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)
Dave
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
CRCinAU said:
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...
As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find
A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.
Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.
CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.
As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.
I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.
This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.
Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!
What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.
I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.
I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.
Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out.
I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.
CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
Yknow what would be sweeet
If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).
a bunch of SYS folders from recent builds
People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
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As I've said here, I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.
As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...
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I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.
19960 build
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
dan1967 said:
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?
First of all, HUGE thanks to psuarmy, bilbobrian, and bepe (they know why). Last year, in my first period class (basketball), somebody decided to jack my 8525 and took off with it which upset me a lot. Well, i finally got an 8525 so i can cook for it. I've spent quite some time getting it all ready and it's finally good to go.
I offered this same service for the Kaiser and a lot of people seemed to like it so i thought i'd bring it here. It'll bring a lot more load on me, but i'm on summer vacation until the 25th and then school starts (will continue to do this even when i have school hopefully).
Most chefs tend to cook what the majority of the people like including myself. When i cooked my first ROM and asked people for feedback/suggestions, i did get a few programs that everybody liked but there were many suggestions of programs that each different user liked. So i could have cooked Livcast in which Joe wanted, but Mary wouldn't use it at all; that kind of thing
I couldn't get anybody to cook what i wanted so i did it myself So i'm opening up this thread for ANYBODY who has a request to cook a ROM which can include ANY program (or rather anything they want). I will cook commercial programs, but will NOT include any license/registration key; that's up to you to get. The format should look something like this:
Programs: Thousands of these.
Games: Thousands of these to
Version: Here you can tell me whether you want a cube version, non-cube version, diamond build, etc.
Other: Whatever else you'd like.
Preferred Upload Host: Have problems with RS? No problem, just tell me the site and i'll upload it there. I can also upload to Jannaa's blogspot thanks to her generosity!
You can help aplace4u.biz to stay free.
Chances are that I probably have access to the programs you want, so i'll make them to an OEM if i don't already have them.
I'm on summer vacation so I have quite some time and i'd like to devote it in helping out (not just here but anywhere). If this doesn't go so well, i'll just ask a mod to delete the thread.
This is 100% FREE and i'd like to help as much as I can, but if you can/are able to, i have PAYPAL @ ksallstar2013 at yahoo.
Thanks to all the following supporters:
-dr_tracker
Ooo! Like the sound of this.
Programs: Samsung time, iContact, Windows live, office, pocket rar, softkey changer, pocketIRC, Schaps advanced config, Oxios Memory, phm regedit, and finaly pbar.
If you dont have any of these, just ask and ill post them up.
Games: just the default ones will do
Other: button 5 fix, and com manager toggle vibrate fix. As clean as you can, maybe take out error reporting, managed programs, and clear storage as well as the normal stuff like welcome centre.
I would like HTC connection wizard in there as well.
10 button black comm manager, and this dialler.
Version: I dont mind to much, I dont use anything like the Cube, just the newest you have. (WM6.1 of cause) I see build 20273 around, maybe newer if you have it
If i missed anything, just say and ill get right back to you!
New chef???
Or you just came back from the future? I have a perfect ROM so far, for what I need, let's see if someone else can come up with some ideas.
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Or you just came back from the future? I have a perfect ROM so far, for what I need, let's see if someone else can come up with some ideas.
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Hes been active on the Kaiser forum for some time, I looked over there quite a bit.
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Hes been active on the Kaiser forum for some time, I looked over there quite a bit.
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That's why I said he came from the 'future' as he's been doing ROMs for the kaiser. I think I have also picked my next ROM for the kaiser, but will see what's on offer here
Lol, now i know what you mean. Well if you read the first few sentences of the post, i had an 8525 before my Tilt. Then some loser jacked it from me when i was dressing out after my practice
I've done over 40 ROMs for the Kaiser (look at the thread or a picture here) It's been great assisting people. Can get extremely stressful, however the outcome is well worth it when people like it
@ veyka, i have everything you said except oxios and pbar; will look into getting those
You should check up for Abusalza and Starbase64 4shared directories on their signatures. They have plenty of cabs ...
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Lol, now i know what you mean. Well if you read the first few sentences of the post, i had an 8525 before my Tilt. Then some loser jacked it from me when i was dressing out after my practice
I've done over 40 ROMs for the Kaiser (look at the thread or a picture here) It's been great assisting people. Can get extremely stressful, however the outcome is well worth it when people like it
@ veyka, i have everything you said except oxios and pbar; will look into getting those
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Here you go! Cant wait to see the results!
Edit: If you can make pbar into a cab as well, you will have my eternal gratitude
Lol, thanks for the attatchments, but I already had them downloaded after you requested them . I'll try to make pbar into a cab, no problem
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Lol, thanks for the attatchments, but I already had them downloaded after you requested them . I'll try to make pbar into a cab, no problem
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Fantastic! thanks!
One last thing, can you use the 1% battery dill, if you don't by default
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That's why I said he came from the 'future' as he's been doing ROMs for the kaiser. I think I have also picked my next ROM for the kaiser, but will see what's on offer here
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Ahh! I didn't quite get you the first time! Its always good to see a new chef, now that so many are leaving to the Touch Pro.
Welcome Chef...Good to have U cooking in the Hermes hood!!
What ever clean lite recipe U want to prepare would be cool!
Salaams ahki, If possible could you cook a L26v10 version for my hermes
inshaAllah. would be greatly appreciated.Shukran wa-salaam
@ galaxys, so you just want a lite rom with the essentials?
@ veyka, i think it's in but i'll check.
@ naimsiddqi, inshallah akhi. S you want a Diamond based ROM?
I am also moving to cok for the Rapahel, however i will hopefully never leave the Hermes and the Kaiser.
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@ veyka, i think it's in but i'll check
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Fantastic, cant wait to give it a wizz!
I know some people like certain page pools so if you wuld like any value, tell me. I will put the fault ones on 16.
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I know some people like certain page pools so if you wuld like any value, tell me. I will put the fault ones on 16.
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8megs is my sweet spot, doesn't matter to much though, takes all of 10s to change it
Diamond base is fine
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@ galaxys, so you just want a lite rom with the essentials?
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Exactly...with 2G dialer, netcf 3.5, schaps config v2.1, task manager v3.1, 6mb PP, no splashs...
HOLD up for now...Im looking at some other possible IU & apps!
btw, have u heard of RemoteTracker - Antitheft software and cooked it in any roms? See Post#1 for info "ROM cookers can use this DLL to make RT hard reset safe!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
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Exactly...with 2G dialer, netcf 3.5, schaps config v2.1, task manager v3.1, 6mb PP, no splash. thanks
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Woopss CF3.5 for me as well, im always forgetting something
Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony
All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.
have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.
Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
43 views and NOT EVEN 1 CAN ANSWER????!!!!!!!
DefJamz said:
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
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It's better to cook using oem as a cab takes more space i.e space for the cab then space for the installed version so can take nearly double the space.
There should be no speed differences.
Pagepool of 32Mb is going to lead to very little memory left for programs to run in
P.S don't expect somebody to answer your question within 1 day, It's only just over 8 hours and you post a comment like that.
OEM is better, but if you delete the CABs after the installation there won't be wasted disk space... it's equal!
thanx shaks. appreciate the answer. does official rom has some sort of 'build' as the custom ones have? what are rgu and dsm and why does bepe tools delete them when they are necessary in rom building?
not equal!!!!
cabs will install after first boot. and than resarts.
sometime its needed read by 100 persons for get an answer.
or you want get answers like "google your question", "search your question"
or the best "i dont know .."
but excuise me, if you have donate million of millions for searchable putah's in madagarkaaaaar...
@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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Hmm, maybe he had a bad day (which doesn't justiy his actions); I checked his other posts and they were quite normal.
Other than that, the info he was asking was in the stickies, which shows that he was expecting us to spoonfeed him, instead of reading up.
i do NOT need to be spoonfed. i read through even looked up wiki mind you. but sifting through pages after pages looking for answers doesnt help. i ONLY ask as a last resort. i have learnt to "arghh go to hell with it" if chefs locked their rom. it's just like Microsoft. take it or leave it. i know how to edit a custom/official rom. BUUUUUT, i started out with the old version. im learning how to use ervius kitchen and still am. ROM development is supposed to be open and shared. when mondilv decided to leave bcos chefs were locking their rom yet still asked for donations in their sig, i understood & agreed completely. locking a rom only serves to justify "it's mine and there's nothing you can do to try and hack my hack. only i have the key. if there's bugs, i can try to rectify it bcos you're too dumb to create something just like mine" it's stingy dont you think so? it's NOT hacking a hack. it's improving it. so learners like myself can compare how custom roms work. why does this work on this but not that? etc etc..
all of us start somewhere. the experts included. the difference is how well we can read/translate codes. i for one, learn by comparing. and there's nothing to compare if roms are locked.
so thank you.
Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
danny_and_2 said:
Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
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i agree. but some folks crazy like myself, wishes to remove/add some stuff via oem. and yeah, i have been reflashing hundreds of times due to me NOT being happy that something small didnt turn out correctly as how i want it to be. imagine this, i rather extract the contents of a cab (manilas or those files that writes themselves into /windows) and paste. why? bcos i hate seeing programs building up into the 'remove program' feature. why? bcos all that i installed in my own modified custom rom is what i need. which is why i prefer oem. but now it's extremely rare to find one that isnt locked. i hate audio/images/samples/programs that i know i wont use at all. i rather remove them and save the extra valuable space for other programs.
im still a very long way from being a complete chef. but sadly, locked custom rom has hindered my progress and now i have to just like everyone else, swallow the pill and deal with it.
edit: and i thought i was the only one grumbling abt locked roms.
dont forget one thing about your grrrrr'ring of locked roms:
you cant get any better reason to start cooking and being a master chef as locked-roms-reason.
i startet with downlading all roms for my device (sometimes for other=bricked)
and hope, that the next time it will exist a combine of bepe and diamond-project. at least, it would not get an equal combine roms and i have to start again with cooking (after long break becauce bricking) roms. the best start could be recooking and deleting not needed/wanted applications. but both cookers locked there roms. o.k. ... ? !!!
now i am in a position to cook that what i really want ... not really,
from 100% i give me 95% of really want and the rest 5% are random.
the most problem is getting new stuff or stable versions of existing stuff.
and here come the other cooker or members with power of interesting to upload for volks.
forgot the locked cookers/chefs, they have do their really good things long time ago and they lost a little bit the spirit of this forum.
i can understand, that some chefs/masters dont give for 546 times the same answer of a question two thread before and five threads before and ...
and one thing helps me really good, other xda-forums with using google-translator. this is the mother of xda-forums, but dont forget uncle, brother, sister and very good looking cuisine ...
have questions. than ask. sometime have wait and sometime have nerv and nerv and nerv again (sorrry, nerv is german, dont know english word and google-translator is on an other tab ..
shaks1979 said:
There should be no speed differences.
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From my experience, there are can be some speed differences.
An OEM with modules (can be UPXed) files will be faster, and take up less room than an exe installed by a cab. And it'll launch faster.
Can some one help in converting this to english and clearing out some bugs such as when shortcuts are opened they overlap clock also landscape does not work well. there are some others im sure on trying it out on topaz can clear things out. This way manila 2.1 users dont have to take the risk with flashing it to 2.5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5148686&postcount=8
Please help
Where are all the developers?
Isnt there any one who could do something about this??? come on ppl xda is the place for genius im sure someone can spare some time and do something for manila 2.1
That is probably because the handful of Dev's working on 2.1 have either moved on or know it's not possible.
Noonski said:
That is probably because the handful of Dev's working on 2.1 have either moved on or know it's not possible.
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Eh? There was only a "handful" of Devs working on Manila 2.1? It's only been out a month or so! And not everyone want's to flash 2.5 - or should we all bin our phones and buy a HD2?
Oh, and as for it not being possible, have you told rotastrain?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601057
It's why i used the word OR
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That is probably because the handful of Dev's working on 2.1 have either moved on "or" know it's not possible.
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To point out it's something i'm not sure about
Adding programs to 2.1 isn't just modifying the Home tab LUA code.
It's doing a whole lot of modifications, and then off course The manila vesion could also just not have support for this.
I think one of the best candidates for this would be Dman, as he already made some extreme Manila modification.