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A2DP with TCPMP?

Too many acronyms?
OK, so I got me some nice little bluetooth headphones, the iPhono mini things from bluetake. I'm digging them.
Only problem is that TCPMP doesn't fancy piping its music over bluetooth, although WMP happily will. This is pretty pants, since most of my music is AAC, which WMP naturally won't play.
Also, while we're here, even in WMP the pause/skip buttons on the headphones are having no effect. It's kind of jittery too. Man, what?
So, does anybody have any ideas? I gather from searching that many people do use bluetooth headphones, and there was even one instance of someone saying they do so via TCPMP regularly.
I'm using a HTC Magician (1.12 rom) with the url=http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532&highlight=a2dp]BCHS bluetooth stack/url], maybe I need a different stack? I gather there are a few...
Maybe if I upgrade to the 1.13 rom? Or maybe a different bluetooth stack? I don't know :/

I've never tried to use my BT headset to listen to music with my phone, but on my laptop, the headset has to be paired and activated in 'My bluetooth places. Then I have to select it as the audio device to use in control panel->sounds and audio devices, then restart whatever media player I'm using.

Good idea, but I tried restarting the apps already. I even did a soft-reset and made pairing the very first thing I did when it had finished booting.

Itech a2dp
Just bought some Itech clip s35 BT thingy, lets you put your own headphones in.
I put my universal on my desk. Went to the next office. About 10 meters away, through thin walls and next to 7 servers, its still 100% crispy sound.
I turn around and it stops, turn back and its back again. 10 metres! Through walls!!
Connected to my Sony MDR EX71 mini squishys and Im sealed in sound wirelessly.
I cannot fault these in any way shape or form.
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BUY THEM!!!!!
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That... doesn't help :?

"That... doesn't help" - Quote
Ooops
I forget to say that as this is paired as wireless stereo in my bluetooth devices, everything comes out this headset.
TCMP
Games
Phone
Media Player
I paired it and it seemed to completely take the place of my wired headset. As if it is plugged in.
With the voice dial activated using the button on the headset, I dont have to get my phone out of its case to listen and make recieve calls. I have not tested to see if TCMP cuts out and comes back in.....
My suggestion would be to find out if there are different types of A2DP, as my device seems to have this device as default audio output. Perhaps this is just a windows mobile 5 thing though.....
I am going to upgrade my old Magician with a bluetooth stack which supports A2DP. If I do this sometime soon, ill let you know my results.
Sorry for the apparent topic change.

yarod_g14 said:
Perhaps this is just a windows mobile 5 thing though.....
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Ha ha! I'm all "Wait, how the hell is he doing all that? Maybe he has WM5?" and I'm pretty sure you're right. I've been trolling this place for the last few days on all the Magician + A2DP info I can. Seems as though only WMP will stream audio over bluetooth via A2DP with that upgraded stack.

I find that CorePlayer works great w/ A2DP.

I just got MOTO s9's today, I am able to hear music when listing to Coreplayer/tcmp but the Play, pause, next buttons don't work.

You can map the headset buttons to control playback with Hotkeys in CorePlayer the same way you map hard keys on the device.

If you want TCMP to play over a2dp when it doesn't automaticly do so you must go to the options menu, then audio options, then select Null audio in the audiodriver section. Press play, obviously you won’t hear a thing. Pause the music or video and go back to the audiodriver section then select wave output. Press play And voila you have bluetooth audio. This does the trick for me as it doesn’t play through headset automaticly.
hope this helps you.

Find the BTAudio.cab application if it works with your device.

Pair your device with 'JETware Mobile Extension 1.31' & configure it. Also do make the device in Bluetooth Discoverable mode, this will certainly help in streaming the music. Better try CorePlayer 1.2.4.

How to use a BT Stereo Headset with GSPlayer or any player

I tried to set up a set of BT Stereo Headphones in a shop the other day to test them. We couldn't get them to go so we could listen to mp3s. I use GSPlayer.
Has anybody done this successfully? How do you tell the Magician (WM5) to output the sounds to the bluetooth headset and not to the normal headphones audio output socket?
many thanks,
Zaine.

Cant remeber where i got and who to give props too. but here it is
just run the output all audio to bluetooth and the run the other to turn off
and the auto mode which i havent tested out yet

Bewdiful.
Bewdy mate.
Thanks very much, that seems to do the trick. It works with my normal headset now. I'll go back to the shop now and test those other headphones.
The auto toggle seems to work OK as well, btw.
Once again, thanks a million.

Good deal. I gotta try this out. Will this work w/ the Wizard?

It doesn't work with my Magician + BHCS BT Patch...

I've read plenty of threads about this. For Magician, A2DP is WMP only. Doesn't work with anything else.
Mind you, this is what everyone else has said. I have not tested this myself.

I can confirm that, in my experience.
Also: WMP is pretty rubbish about its A2DP support. For some reason it'll only stream mp3s within a certain bitrate, too low and it uses the device's speaker.
It won't do non-stnadard sample-rates either, and on most setups it seems to "burp" every few seconds.

Ik am succesfull with the standard WMP though. It plays all bitrates, and only rarely stutters... So when I use WMP, I am satisfied!

Works fine, just bad quality sound with Bluetooth.
Well, I tried again in the shop and everything worked fine on my Magician (a T Mobile MDA compact with WM5). However, the sound quality was pretty rubbish. The sales guy reckoned that was a function of Bluetooth.
So, not a winner there. But, I can now listen to my voice recordings and podcasts via my normal BT Headset, which is really handy.
Thanks again to the Frioman - a really useful couple of apps. The toggle is on my Today page now!

Works fine, just bad quality sound with Bluetooth.
Well, I tried again in the shop and everything worked fine on my Magician (a T Mobile MDA compact with WM5). However, the sound quality was pretty rubbish. The sales guy reckoned that was a function of Bluetooth.
So, not a winner there. But, I can now listen to my voice recordings and podcasts via my normal BT Headset, which is really handy.
Thanks again to the Frioman - a really useful couple of apps. The toggle is on my Today page now!

Works fine, just bad quality sound with Bluetooth.
Well, I tried again in the shop and everything worked fine on my Magician (a T Mobile MDA compact with WM5). However, the sound quality was pretty rubbish. The sales guy reckoned that was a function of Bluetooth.
So, not a winner there. But, I can now listen to my voice recordings and podcasts via my normal BT Headset, which is really handy.
Thanks again to the Frioman - a really useful couple of apps. The toggle is on my Today page now!

Nice triple post! But...
bobgorila said:
Also: WMP is pretty rubbish about its A2DP support. For some reason it'll only stream mp3s within a certain bitrate, too low and it uses the device's speaker.
It won't do non-stnadard sample-rates either, and on most setups it seems to "burp" every few seconds.
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Yeah, I got this all the time, espically if I fast forwarded and rewound. And I was re-encoding mp3s to different bitrates, constant and variable without much success.
"Damn WMP and it's lack of features! The stupid thing can only play MP3s... and... WMA..."
I did a few test re-encodes to WMA 9 (not 9.1) @ 192 and now I get those burps and crackles every ... ten minutes? Half an hour? Definitly not every... what, twenty seconds to a minute.
If this is a problem for you, try re-encoding to WMA 9 @ 192. I use dbPowerAmp http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

ooff! took me about 2 and 1/2 days to re-find this thread again!! can we get a sticky on this????
used this on my Wizard (aka mda) and my Moto H3 and now can listen to my tv shows on the train w/my bt headset!
thanks!!!

I got a Unable to Open bluetooth audio gateway or something, though my headset is connected...strange.

blue tooth program
thefrioman said:
Cant remeber where i got and who to give props too. but here it is
just run the output all audio to bluetooth and the run the other to turn off
and the auto mode which i havent tested out yet
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There is three icons one for audio off and one for audio on and one for toggle.
I ran one at a time but after 15 or 20 minutes I loose blue tooth connections and the communications manager freezes and when I click on the blue tooth Icon in settings it does nothing, I have to turn the mda off and then I can listen over the blue tooth again, but after 1or 20 minutes it does it again.
can you help?

help
is there any one out there

BT Audio User Problem
I downloaded BT Audio and installed the three .exe files on my 8525. Soft reset the device and then toggled the audio on.exe. Sound still coming out of the speaker and not the BT headset.
I do have the BT-620's and they work fine (even before the BT Audio install). I am trying to accomplish being able to listen to WM without having to lug the BT-620's around all the time.
I am wondering if having the 620's software is conflicting with BT Audio?
Also, I think to get the audio stream to play to the headset, one has to activate the voice dialing feature from the headset? I can get the sound to play only for a few seconds when I do this. Do I need to de-activate voice dialing? If so, how?
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Thank you so much, toggle works well, switches to calls and back
very cool.

Bluetooth stereo headphones advice

Hi everybody,
I´m planning to buy a bluetooh stereo headphones for listening music and hands free calling.
I´d like to have:
- Controls for controlling mp3 playing, volume and phone functions (hang,interchange calls....).
- Screen for seeing mp3 tags and caller id.
- High battery life.
- Voice calling.
Any idea on what to get.
I have a qtek s200 (g4 prophet) rom: 2.20 spanish.
Thanks in advance.

I have been usin` Plantronics Pulsar P590. No problems so far. Qulity is very good, all necessary controls for controlling mp3 playing.

Thanks very much for the advice, but it doesn´t have screen.
Best.

Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296770

After reading your great post and some links you have on it, i realized that it seems that i´m looking for something that doesn´t exist.
The only options i have considered after reading, are sony HBH-DS970 and nokia HS-12W and no one can manage mp3 tags on screen and the battery life is not so good.
Maybe is time to wait to someone comes whith what i want.
Thanks a lot.

I'm intrested in where you think the screen should be on "headphones" in order for you to see them? I think a far better idea would be to have an extra button to press that gives you a voice prompt/annoucement that reads the track title to you. I've seen some half-baked attemps of this on the PC.
Thinking about it, can't MS Voice Commander do this if you speak to it?

Like this will be ok for you to see it when you want without taking out your phone.
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b131639.jpg
I prefer this than the phone telling you each song title.
I like this headphones. The problem is that it doesn´t show, i don´t know why mp3 tags and the battery life is not so long.
Will see if someone come with something good enought.
Best.

better P3300 headset?

when i bought my P3300 i realized inmediately that the headset kinda sucks. for two reasons:
1) the volume is not the PDA volume controller, it's just a controller for the headset
2) i still haven't found a software that is able to link to the headset button
i didn't care too much till now. but now i use the the P3300 for video/mp3 more and mroe every day... and the fact i can't link any program to the headset button, just to be able to do a "skip track" is really bad. and the volume controller is very bad too.
so, is there any other, better headset out there? wired or bluetooth, doesn't matter as long as it does what i need.

I'm using a Motorola HT820 Bluetooth Headset, it's one of the bigger headsets but it has volume buttons AND buttons for skipping tracks. Those buttons only seem to work in Windows Media Player. They might work in other players if you find out what you have to change in the software.
I paid 20 Euros for it, for that price it's quite ok, the microphone is loud enough for office environment. It can be uncomfortable if you wear it longer than 30 minutes or if you haven't found the perfect spot. Unfortunately my P3300 has a very short Bluetooth range, I can't go more than 5 meters (15 feet) away from my phone. I have a phone on my desk that can connect to bluetooth headsets that has twice the range even through walls.
Logitech and HP also have phone's that have those skip buttons you are looking for, they usually only work with WM Player. The Logitech Headset might be an alternative, the Ipaq version doesn't have a microphone I think. If you don't like a plastic neckstrap you could buy the headset from Samsung they only use a cable. All the headsets I was talking about are those bulky ones you probably don't wanna wear outside, at least I don't. I tested the Moto headset only indoors.

thx for that info. i am considering different stuff i've seen so far, a few wired ones too.
what you say about the buttons only working in WM player bother me a little... and also how much the p3300 battery drain is, with bluetooth on all the time.
when i watch videos, i don't care about the buttons much, as i have the phone in my hand i can use the phone buttons. but when it comes to mp3 playing, the phone is in my pocket and i really need those buttons. and WM player is not precisely my favourite for mp3 playing, if you know what i mean.
ofc i could test on other applications like mortplayer if they are able to bind that buttons you mentioned.
for example this one calls my attention:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=150193
but i wonder with which application those buttons (volume, play pause) work, apart WM player.

I don't know why you are talking about battery drain, I can listen to music over bluetooth for about least 10 hours, maybe even more, didn't test more up to now.
When i use Winodws Media Player I turn off the screen, that saves a lot of power. Bluetooth consumes about 10% extra battery power, that's it. You might get a veeery long playtime by setting the clockrate to 150 or less Mhz if that is sufficient for mp3 playback.

well, i don't have any experience with the P3300 + bluetooth yet, but all my previous phones had a 25% battery drain if i forgot to turn off bluetooth after a sync.
have my battery last 72h. or 54h. (standby) DOES make a difference for me, if i can sort it by using a wired headset instead. and same applies to music listening. if i can listen to 13h. instead 10h. by using a wired headset instead a BT one, then i'll prefer that.
i'll see. as soon as i gather more info on the hardware i am looking at, i'll give it a try. and who know, i might end up getting my first BT headset ever

I can understand that 72 vs. 54 hours makes a big difference in standby times and that 13 vs 10h is not such a big difference. The two reasons I use a BT headset is that I lost my wired headset somewhere at home and that I can't listen to music while recharging.
I never liked the idea of not having a dedicated audio jack on the P3300 but I thought that I could live with it. I didn't want to buy an extra Y-cable to just to be able what others handheld can do. So my new headset is a lot bigger and can't get lost as easily.

moto H820s
zandadoum said:
when i bought my P3300 i realized inmediately that the headset kinda sucks. for two reasons:
1) the volume is not the PDA volume controller, it's just a controller for the headset
2) i still haven't found a software that is able to link to the headset button
i didn't care too much till now. but now i use the the P3300 for video/mp3 more and mroe every day... and the fact i can't link any program to the headset button, just to be able to do a "skip track" is really bad. and the volume controller is very bad too.
so, is there any other, better headset out there? wired or bluetooth, doesn't matter as long as it does what i need.
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I got a pair of Motorola H820s via Amazon and they rock. Wireless stereo audio, headset profile, AVRC controls for media player (and pocket player etc with appropriate plugins), great with voice command too, and they charge off mini USB. what's not to like for 15UKP?
only negative with using them with the artemis is that you can't use the radio with them, as the radio won't start without wired headphones so it can use the lead as an antenna. not tried just inserting a wired headset whilst retaining use of BT headset yet...

I cannot control the volume of Streaming Bluetooth Audio.... :(

I have a pair of bluetooth headphones and a bluetooth receiver in my car.
Once i pair either one to my Touch Pro 2, i noticed that raising/lowering the volume on my HD2 does not affect the audio what so ever(unless i put it on mute).
The music sounds very loud and distorted, and i cant control the volume either way...Anyone else run into this issue? How can i solve it?

That's normal. You need to adjust the volume at the receiving end.

I have the exact same problem. Not sure why as when I pair up to my speakers, the phone tells me it cannot control the volume, yet it worked fine on my "Touch Pro" (the 1st one) and my Kaiser. Not looked for a solution, because its not much of an issue for me really.

Mesquire said:
That's normal. You need to adjust the volume at the receiving end.
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But the problem is that, the audio being streamed from the HD2 is so loud and distorted, that i have to turn it down(but i cant).
So even if i turn it down on the receiving end, the distortion is still there.
With my old samsung omnia, i was able to turn the music up or down from the phone...I dont understand why this isnt possible with the Touch Pro 2.
The music coming from my phone is unlistenable. The distortion ruins the audio. Which really sucks, because i spent $300 on a car reciever with bluetooth!
There has to be a solution! Come on XDA!

Try turning it down on the phone first? Or get a player that uses it's own volume control instead of the system volume (I believe Mort Player and Nitrogen will do this).

jason02 said:
But the problem is that, the audio being streamed from the HD2 is so loud and distorted, that i have to turn it down(but i cant).
So even if i turn it down on the receiving end, the distortion is still there.
With my old samsung omnia, i was able to turn the music up or down from the phone...I dont understand why this isnt possible with the Touch Pro 2.
The music coming from my phone is unlistenable. The distortion ruins the audio. Which really sucks, because i spent $300 on a car reciever with bluetooth!
There has to be a solution! Come on XDA!
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Same problem here!!!
No volume control at all on TP2, and volume of music cant be changed through the system volume control either

I have a bluetooth connection to my motorcycle intercom system. I had the same problem, sort of.
I installed Conduits Pocket Player, and use the equalizer to bring down the level of the Bluetooth. That worked well enough for what I needed to do.

I read somewhere else on the forum here that this issue is attributed to the Widcomm Buetooth stack on our phones. Whenever I connect my headset to my phone or my laptop, I receive a warning that the volume must be adjusted on the output device, and cannot be adjusted on the phone/computer. It may be related to the poor support for AVRCP.

Avatar28 said:
Try turning it down on the phone first? Or get a player that uses it's own volume control instead of the system volume (I believe Mort Player and Nitrogen will do this).
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ok, so it seems that this wincomm bluetooth stack or whatever SUCKS. You're right....I guess the only work around i guess is a player that doesnt use the system volume, like coreplayer.
Coreplayer is great for movies, but for playing mp3's i would prefer Slide 2 Play.
Havent tried nitrogen yet though.
Does a mp3 player exist that is similar to slide 2 play, but doesnt use the system volume of the phone?

I too am not able to use many of the bluetooth audio accessories such as my jabra headphones, desktop speakers and my indash audio system. None of which work as they did with my Kaiser. This was supposed to be an upgrade to my Tilt and it doesnt even support the OLD protocals that were common 2 years ago?? Im seriously considering switching to blackberry. Anyone intrested in a nearly new Tilt 2. Goodbye htc (high tech crap)

THis is a problem with the bluetooth stack, just email HTC so they can get a patch for this. or microsoft because they are the ones that control what stack it gets.
this Goes for the HD2 and others too