SciLor's Fuel Blaster vs. LulzSoft's Gasmate
Gasmate:
http://www.lulzsoft.com/
SciLor's Fuel Blaster:
http://scilor.ac-host.net/fuelblaster.html
Hello, I would like to now if it is worth to continue developing my Fuel Blaster due to a similar program by dlichterman (Gasmate)
I'll try to show all features of each program and you can decide what program you like more.
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Feel free to vote for the best, not just to me for writing this. (I tried to show the best of both tools!)
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vote no.4
Reminded me on Brewster's Milions "Vote for None of The Above" campaign
j/k
in my opinion, both apps are good, I just would like them to have some of the eyecandy
I disagree with Gasmate 'Stylus is a Must' statement.
I have been using Gasmate for about 2 months and find that I have YET to need my stylus to use it.
Only thing missing from Gasmate currently is multiple vehicles, but author is polishing the program for single vehicle currently and then promises to support multi vehicles when fully released.
Thank you for your response, but in my opinion on my QVGA device I is really difficult to press the tabs without hitting the exit/about button and this is very anoying
I agree that it would be nicer if the tabs were more finger friendly but it can be done without a stylus.
scilor said:
Thank you for your response, but in my opinion on my QVGA device I is really difficult to press the tabs without hitting the exit/about button and this is very anoying
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Looks like an excuse to buy a new phone
600€ for a kaiser...
So I want to use it for some time
nice you found the thread dlichterman
scilor said:
600€ for a kaiser...
So I want to use it for some time
nice you found the thread dlichterman
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Holy crap thats expensive. I only paid 240 for my touch pro(with 2yr contract)
I without a contract
And the bloddy s**t is that the value of a used kaiser fell to 300€...
I like your Fuel Blaster better.
The following are some of my impressions of Fuel Blaster vs Gasmate. No offense to either creators, these are just my opinions. I'm providing my feedback so maybe each creator can improve their programs. You're both awesome for making programs to help us all.
Pros
- Fuel Blaster's interface feels & looks better, Gasmate seems too "basic"
- Fuel Blaster's summary page is more in depth
- Fuel Blaster has Graphs
- Fuel Blaster has Customizable Units
- Fuel Blaster utilizes WVGA, Gasmate is only VGA (doesn't utilize the full screen for WVGA screens)
Cons
- Gasmate has different fuel types & grades
- Gasmate has Maintenance Records
- Gasmate has changeable date for Record Entry, Fuel Blaster is set to the time you enter the Record (what if you forgot & enter it the next week?)
- (Minor) Gasmate uses a decimal point "." instead of a comma "," (I know some places uses a comma for a decimal point but I don't like it)
Suggestions
- I would like to see Fuel Blaster with selectable different profiles for different vehicles. That way if I have multiple vehicles, I can keep track of them all. (I have a car & a motorcycle).
Thank you for your feedback
I will take a look at your suggestions in the next release
Add FuelLog to this comparision. I use it third year (maybe longer...?) and it works ok (but could be better). What I miss in FuelLog is multicar functionality, and multifuel (I have gas+LPG). Also very usefull would be possibility to synchronize with websites, which tracks fuel consumption (export/import) like www.motostat.pl
I would love to see a simpler "just fuel log" finger friendly "pretty" interface.
I boot up and it has a date field but its already filled in (I can change if need to)
tap miles I enter my miles traveled (my odo is 1.05 off so odo readings are worthless I use trip meter readings because I have larger tires)
it should guess by prefilling with the last miles I used.
tap fuel and plop in gallons used (it should guess by putting in the last amount I used and use 2 decimal places)
being able to "slide" the values would be nice. IE say I went 442 miles but last time I went 402 and it fills with 402. I just "slide" my finger over the 0 4 times to make it a 4 hit done.
this would make entry super slick super fast.
THEN the final punch. some way of "integrating" with sites like "ecomodder" to "sync" my log with the site automatically right over the air.
that would rock
Data Entry Is Problem for Both
Both programs require multiple taps to enter each digit. This is time consuming. Another program, MPG Tracker, displays a numeric key pad when you tap into each of the fields - miles, gallons, price. So data entry is faster and easier.
The biggest problem I have with Fuel Blaster is that I entered the data, and tapped on the Save button but nothing happened. When I moved to another screen, my entries had not been saved. I had to do this three times before I finally got a message asking if I wanted to create another data set. I tapped Yes, and my data was saved. I have no problems with my screen responding to taps in other programs. I can't understand why the large Save button does not easily save my data - and I don't need a confirmation screen; just save the data.
Gas Mate has not been updated since 2009 and the design reflects the old stylus entry screens.
All three programs need better Exit methods that actually shut down the program and remove it from memory. Many programs do thnis, so it can be done.
I will test all three for a while, but right now, MPG Tracker appears to be better for recording fuel consumption. It allows for different fuel grades and multiple vehicles. If I used my vehicle for business, I would probably get one of the better, paid programs that does more.
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Without buttons, it makes most of them a bit useless.
I have mobipocket reader installed at the moment, and this will handle html and plain txt files, which are what most of the books I have are in, but I am wondering if there's anything better.
On the iPhone there's a really nice one that slides the pages up and down by tapping the top or bottom of the page, but I forget what it was called. I remember it cost about £5 though, but it was worth it.
Ideally something that displays full screen, will handle plain text and html, as well as other formats, and will turn the page by touching the screen.
The issue I have with mobipocket is the file and folder navigation seems really messed up, and you can't expand the column sizes when you want to look at the files in the open file window. With long book names you have no idea what they are
Any suggestions?
TIA
TRy these
I use mobibook too but have also tried these:
uBook: not bad but menu's a bit small.
Allreader+: pretty good but hard to figure out options
Tiny reader: poor
AlanJC said:
Without buttons, it makes most of them a bit useless.
I have mobipocket reader installed at the moment, and this will handle html and plain txt files, which are what most of the books I have are in, but I am wondering if there's anything better.
On the iPhone there's a really nice one that slides the pages up and down by tapping the top or bottom of the page, but I forget what it was called. I remember it cost about £5 though, but it was worth it.
Ideally something that displays full screen, will handle plain text and html, as well as other formats, and will turn the page by touching the screen.
The issue I have with mobipocket is the file and folder navigation seems really messed up, and you can't expand the column sizes when you want to look at the files in the open file window. With long book names you have no idea what they are
Any suggestions?
TIA
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It's probably a good idea to use this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449778&highlight=ebook
or maybe this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466638&highlight=ebook
Mobipocket is great for the commercial books in PRC format. I can touch the screen on the bottom to turn a page.
I also have AEB+ to map the volume buttons to up/down and I use it to rotate the screen.
I have to say, I haven't kept up to date with the latest bells and whistles versions, but for years I've used, and am happy to entirely recommend iSilo.
It will read various text formats, but most conveniently comes with a converter for making your own custom ebooks - and helpfully, this can be fed a load of html files, so I often decompile ebooks distributed as chm files, and then convert them into isilo books that I can read on the road, which is excellent for massive reference works like Britanica etc. These are also highly compressed, and settings and last reading position is saved per book.
The version I'm using is probably old school, but as I said, it works perfectly and I've had no reason to upgrade. Helpfully on the Blackstone, it has user assignable buttons and screen regions, so eg clicking the top 25% of the screen will page up, or the middle 25% will auto scroll etc. This makes it ideal for the Blackstone with no usable buttons.
Black on white in portrait:
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I like mobipocket, I have used it for years, and even on my N95, but I find tapping the screen is very random, sometimes it works, sometimes it highlights some text, and sometimes I have to tap it several times to get it to change. If I use a styus, it's fine, if I use two hands, and ise my fingertip it's fine.
iSilo looks like it may do the trick though, although I didn't think it handled plain txt files?
Only problem I have with using the volume keys to change pages, is that they are not designed for repetitive use, I managed to break the switch on my N95 by using it for changing page.
I will have to investigate more I think, I just wish there was one as nice as the iPhone reader I had.
(I just wish to point I used it on an iPod touch, not an iPhone, because I hate them lol)
iSilo certainly supports plain text, a couple of other ebook styles, HTML I think, and it's own format.
I really like using it - it also has autoscroll if your hands are otherwise "occupied"!
V
Well I won't be reading *those* kinds of books
OK I have had a more in depth play with isilo, and it does the job in a buggy kind of way.
Takes a bit of messing around, and looks as though once you go into full screen you cant get out without making it look a bit messed up, so you have to restart the app, but it's certainly better for page turning than mobipocket!
Doesn't have the bells and whistles of others, but it's a free reader, and it does the job effectively.
Cheers V
Regarding the bug coming from fullscreen, I noticed that but thought it was just my old version.
The way to get around this, is instead of pressing the "ok" (back arrow) button to get out of fullscreen, press hang up instead. This will revert it to a normal size window, without the bug.
V
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449778
I have a ton of .lit so although i like Mobipocket it isnt of use. So I use TinyReader it's ok i suppose it definitely beats MS Lit reader. I wish someone would make a good reader for .lit files.
Hi Guys,
I am thinking about programming my own calculator for Windows Mobile.
The idea is to get pretty much the same functionality as a normal windows calculator, but then in the mobile version.
Have the main functions in the screen and then at the bottom get a button to pop up a panel with other functions, sorted by calculation type.
I am still open for suggestions, what functionality to put in there.
Btw, I have been thinking about putting the Memory functionality in there or not. Let me know how often you use it.
Feel free to give me input.
Expect the first (basic) version soon.
V0.1 is there. No need to install, just copy right onto ur mobile, will make a .cab file for next update, but don't have time to do that now.
Let me know what you think, looks will change, thinking about having the same lay-out as wm6.5 calculator with the hex letters at the bottom. lemmeknow.
Using HTC calculator.
Sufficient functionality and very pretty design.
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So no suggestions : ) ) ) May be add HEX letters....
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Hi Guys,
I am thinking about programming my own calculator for Windows Mobile.
The idea is to get pretty much the same functionality as a normal windows calculator, but then in the mobile version.
Have the main functions in the screen and then at the bottom get a button to pop up a panel with other functions, sorted by calculation type.
I am still open for suggestions, what functionality to put in there.
Btw, I have been thinking about putting the Memory functionality in there or not. Let me know how often you use it.
Feel free to give me input.
Expect the first (basic) version soon.
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what will be different in you calculator other than whats already there in the htc calculator??
I didn't know about the HTC calculator, so I don't know what functionality that one has.
But I will make one that can switch between binary, octal, decimal and hexadecimal. And I want all the functionality while in portrait mode.
can you use WM6.5 clacas a base ??
it's beautyful and colourful
only request: HEX <-> DEC conversion
gtrab said:
can you use WM6.5 clacas a base ??
it's beautyful and colourful
only request: HEX <-> DEC conversion
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I've started completely over and implemented HEX already, I can probably recreate a similar user interface, won't be completely the same, there I have added the HEX chars (A...F) in the main screen as well, but I still think it's still easy enough to press the buttons.
YES!!!
YES!!! make one! I had the old Winmo version which was brilliant for functionality but **** for design. the htc version looks great, but i hate hate hate the fact that it doesn't have the % function on portrait which i used to use all the time! and even if you use the landscape mode for % it doesn't work the same as the Winmo eg. to add say 11.6% onto 360 was easy - 360 + 11.6 (% sign). you can't do that on the HTC
please make one
I can put some pretty kool graphic and ideas to this and many projects. How advanced are your programing skills?
K2
By the way -totally kool"r than ice when all buttons announce its value! I can also develope that.
K2
KNOTEBOOK2 said:
I can put some pretty kool graphic and ideas to this and many projects. How advanced are your programing skills?
K2
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That would be pretty cool. At the moment I'm using standard buttons.
KNOTEBOOK2 said:
By the way -totally kool"r than ice when all buttons announce its value! I can also develope that.
K2
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Sorry, what do you mean by this?
Its really good. please update me once its ready
Its really good. please update me once its ready
HEy!
It's a good thing that i dropped by this thread... I've been FOREVER looking for a TAPE calculator... just like in Nokia's N-series calculator...
Once you have this. This will make your calculator one of a kind..
MRU features
1. Tape Function
2. Bin, Oct, Dec, Hex
3. Currency Exchange... (It would be best if the rates can automatically be downloaded but if not then a simplified ver will do)
Optional: Floating Pt calculations. (16-bit and 32-bit)
keep us informed.. will be glad to beta test..
hmm, I've never seen that tape calculator. Good one, will try to implement something like that. I already show the calculation at the top. But to get it all underneath each other is nice as well. I might put it underneath all the buttons.
Btw, I am currently only thinking about portrait, I am someone that does not want to have a calculator that is only functional in landscape.
Bin, Oct, Dec, Hex is already implemented (still have some bugs in that part, but is working for 90%)
Haven't thought about currency exchange yet. I might add it in future versions
At the moment I am working on implementing all the functionality of the current windows (7RC) calculator excluding all the special features like the currency exchange and unit conversion.
I'm using most of the programming functions, they are most important to me, but I also want to include the statistics and scientific stuff.
Ethermind said:
Using HTC calculator.
Sufficient functionality and very pretty design.
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Hi,
where I can get HTC calculator ?
regards
i think here
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...G=Search&cx=000825531964825142534:cqr2sjirilw
Nixweerd said:
hmm, I've never seen that tape calculator. Good one, will try to implement something like that. I already show the calculation at the top. But to get it all underneath each other is nice as well. I might put it underneath all the buttons.
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Here is a site with screen shot of the nokia calc
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2008/08/23/nokia-ports-the-s40-calculator-to-s60/
I'm a sales engineer.. so that's why i'm in need of these features... when PLC programming i am using the BIT/DEC/HEX. sometimes Floating point.. but when i'm with client as sales i am calculating long lists of prices... that's when i need the tape feature..
now... if you're getting bored and in need of a challange.. Why not make your calc like Inesoft's CalcNote... I'm using this as my primary calc.. because of its handy features..
http://www.inesoft.com/eng/index.php?in=calcnote.html
just a thought
I will have a look, first thing is to get all buttons, I have now, working.
in the meantime I will think of a way to implement the tape, I could do it underneath the buttons, but that will mean it's not too big, other possibility is to use a gesture and have 1 full screen with the tape so u can see how ur going, but have to use the main screen to do the calculation. Let me know what u think.
Once I have implemented all the buttons to my liking (or not) I will put that one online, haven't worked on it a lot last couple of days, so progress is a bit slower then expected.
hmm, after looking at inesoft's calcnote I realise there is no stopwatch on my mobile... There are probably enough of those apps around, aren't there?
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GSoudBox is an application for HTC Windows Mobile phones with G-Sensor. It plays a wide variety of sounds. The sounds are triggered by shaking the phone using a variety of gestures.
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Version 1.0.0.2
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Version 1.0.0.1
New: Option to turn on touch vibrations and sound pulse vibrations
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Anyway, I'm not responsible for anything you do to you device.
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Nice! Trying it out now.
Anyone tried it on Omnia?
Regards
nice app
great idea, shame it doesnt work on my tg01
nice app.Gracias
opal dont have g-sensor nooooooooo
Works a treat on HD2
good stuff..
Nice will try this out thanks
looking good ..smooth..
installed on storage, and working fine on hd with stock rom..6.1
thank you
Looks fantastic. Giving it a run on my HD2. Need feedback/suggestions?
Really nice! But I have many problems controlling it via the g-sensor. I think it would be much easier if it would be a little bit like "Motion Drum":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yydDd727eE
Just 8 effects in a circle (or square) and a dot in the middle, which shows the movement of the g-sensor.
I love it
nice application
request QVGA...!!!! Please.
Installed and played with it only for a few minutes, but it is a hell of a lot of fun. I installed it with no issues on my HTC HD2. The program and interface is nice and simple, good image quality and user interface. The Home, sound and settings buttons at the bottom are a bit misleading. They look like HTC sense buttons which makes you first think you can slide across it with your fingers. They are however individual buttons and take a second before you enter the menu. Whichever it works, the buttons are OK, no oldstyle windows mobile look there. The instrument menu is great and user and touch friendly, so no issues there. The settings tab is simpel and clean. Have not had the time to get a feeling for the sensitiviy of the X, Y and Z axis, but I guess it is a question of trial and error. I think a small table in the help menu would be helpful to get insight into the settings.
I found it quite frustrating to use the G-sensor. When you hold the htc horizontally the Z-axis, or vertical axis is the middle box and works ok. The problem starts with the horizontal x-axis (or left and right shake). One side is one instrument and the other another. in the y-axis (or forward/backward shake) you have another 2 insturments that also seem to battle amongst themselves. This makes it difficult to create a harmonic beat. Also the G-sensor seems to have a "contra-coup" effect, in which a sudden change in direction in one axis of the x- or y-axis seems to cause a repeat of the same instrument. This is counter intuitive. The reason for this is that the postive axis (can) code(s) a different instrument than the negative axis. This applies for both x- and y-axis. You expect from a movement from the positive to the negative (left to right or visa versa, to-and-through) or visa versa to change instrument. This is not always the case. This makes this method of use with the G-sensor an unpleasant experience.
On the other hand the individual instruments can be tapped which works much better and is much more fun! 2 issues I have found is there is a lag time of the instrument sound when pressing it multiple times. Perhaps this issue could be solved. A second issue is that, although the HD2 is multitouch enabled, it apparently is not enabled in this app. I can only press one instrument at a time. Perhaps this issue could also be solved.
All-in-all G-soundbox is a must have app for the HTC HD2! Before its availability, however, a few usability issues with the G-sensor and multitouch need to be solved.
Installed and played with it only for a few minutes, but it is a hell of a lot of fun. I installed it with no issues on my HTC HD2. The program and interface is nice and simple, good image quality and user interface. The Home, sound and settings buttons at the bottom are a bit misleading. They look like HTC sense buttons which makes you first think you can slide across it with your fingers. They are however individual buttons and take a second before you enter the menu. Whichever it works, the buttons are OK, no oldstyle windows mobile look there. The instrument menu is great and user and touch friendly, so no issues there. The settings tab is simpel and clean. Have not had the time to get a feeling for the sensitiviy of the X, Y and Z axis, but I guess it is a question of trial and error. I think a small table in the help menu would be helpful to get insight into the settings.
I found it quite frustrating to use the G-sensor. When you hold the htc horizontally the Z-axis, or vertical axis is the middle box and works ok. The problem starts with the horizontal x-axis (or left and right shake). One side is one instrument and the other another. in the y-axis (or forward/backward shake) you have another 2 insturments that also seem to battle amongst themselves. This makes it difficult to create a harmonic beat. Also the G-sensor seems to have a "contra-coup" effect, in which a sudden change in direction in one axis of the x- or y-axis seems to cause a repeat of the same instrument. This is counter intuitive. The reason for this is that the postive axis (can) code(s) a different instrument than the negative axis. This applies for both x- and y-axis. You expect from a movement from the positive to the negative (left to right or visa versa, to-and-through) or visa versa to change instrument. This is not always the case. This makes this method of use with the G-sensor an unpleasant experience.
On the other hand the individual instruments can be tapped which works much better and is much more fun! 2 issues I have found is there is a lag time of the instrument sound when pressing it multiple times. Perhaps this issue could be solved. A second issue is that, although the HD2 is multitouch enabled, it apparently is not enabled in this app. I can only press one instrument at a time. Perhaps this issue could also be solved.
All-in-all G-soundbox is a must have app for the HTC HD2! Before its availability, however, a few usability issues with the G-sensor and multitouch need to be solved.
wow! will give this a try on my touch pro.
spy1983 said:
Anyone tried it on Omnia?
Regards
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It's copied from the Omnia so why not use the original?
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/caxixi/
Problem with Touch Pro2
Gsensor seems not work on TP2..
EDIT: I'm sorry, i changed sensor sensivity
spy1983 said:
Anyone tried it on Omnia?
Regards
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The Omnia has a WQVGA = Wide QVGA screen (240*400) This app is only for (W)VGA(800*600 - 480*640)
So no need to try to see it isn't working.
@Loffactory
Are you planning a WQVGA (Omnia i900) version?
@drdionysius
Thanks
@Loffactory. Forget my question
Hello! I'm a designer who loves Metro. I'm tired of seeing the lackluster Metro app design currently plaguing the Windows Store. While there are some fantastic designs, many apps are just boring or don't fit in well with the Metro design language.
I'm here to help. I'm offering my design skills at no cost, all I ask for is one line of credit in the app's About page.
This is my first design. It's a complete GUI for Instapaper. It's very clean, modern, and most certainly Metro. It's extremely simplistic, but still has everything you could want from an Instapaper app. This app rivals even the official Android and iOS Instapaper apps. The design is based around the Bing News app and the People app. If you're interested in developing this app, I feel you could charge at least $3 in the Store, and make a good profit, which I would want no part of.
Below are some images. I have PSDs of every interface from the log in to creating a new folder. If you're seriously interested in developing this app, either send me a message or post below.
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This is really awesome sir,Im sure someone would be interested in developing such a great design
Aaaagh... don't quote huge OPs like that, please! Just hit Quick Reply and don't use the "Quote message in reply?" option. It just makes the page really long and makes it hard to find the breaks between posts...
To the OP: looks very nice. I hope you find a dev to work with. A few things to keep in mind:
1) Different resolutions, and scaling between them. What looks great on the Surface's 1366x768 will look pretty bad on my desktop's 2560x1440.
2) Different aspect ratios. Tablets in particular are sometimes used in portrait aspect ratio. It would be great to have a good UI for using the app like that too; not enough Store apps handle that well.
3) Snapping the app to one side or the other. This makes it much thinner and also removes the ability to open the App Bar (right-click or swipe in from top/bottom) and Charms bar for that app, so if it's going to be useful in the snapped view it should offer the most critical controls directly to the user in this interface. Skype, Xbox Music, and even Mail do decent jobs of this, although they aren't necessarily pretty.
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Aaaagh... don't quote huge OPs like that, please! Just hit Quick Reply and don't use the "Quote message in reply?" option. It just makes the page really long and makes it hard to find the breaks between posts...
To the OP: looks very nice. I hope you find a dev to work with. A few things to keep in mind:
1) Different resolutions, and scaling between them. What looks great on the Surface's 1366x768 will look pretty bad on my desktop's 2560x1440.
2) Different aspect ratios. Tablets in particular are sometimes used in portrait aspect ratio. It would be great to have a good UI for using the app like that too; not enough Store apps handle that well.
3) Snapping the app to one side or the other. This makes it much thinner and also removes the ability to open the App Bar (right-click or swipe in from top/bottom) and Charms bar for that app, so if it's going to be useful in the snapped view it should offer the most critical controls directly to the user in this interface. Skype, Xbox Music, and even Mail do decent jobs of this, although they aren't necessarily pretty.
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I do have designs for every view/position (I haven't done anything about scalability, but I have ideas on how to work with that). I only posted the two main views in dark/light varients to make sure people could get a good solid understand of how it will work and function. I have PSD's for almost everything that's needed. I've found someone who says they'd like to work on it.
Its looks very nice... and clean...:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
You should undertake overhauling a well known open source windows software. Most of them dont have a metro counterpart. Just pick anything, i can see you have a pretty functional design understanding.
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1. Short english.
I'm not native English speaker. My grammar is bad.
2. Sweeter jellybean 4.3! Faster, Smoother, More Responsive.
: According to Android developer page, touch latency has been improved on Android 4.3.
3. TouchMarks - Test about <= 4.2.2 Devices.
: GSG4, HTC One, MotoX. they're all <= 4.2.2
4. So I built my own touchmark device.
Sensor/device :
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CdS Sensor/ and resistor for voltage dividing.
Button / pull-up resistor.
I have only one phone/camera, so my whiteboard eraser will show how the experiment environment is set.
As you know, the plastic button cannot make a touch input, so I attached some conductive film which will make a touch input when the button contact on the screen surface. I taped screen around to minimize false inputs.
Android App, Arduino code :
github dot com /foriequal0/TouchTest
5. Experiment.
a button contact on the surface -> arduino will record the timestamp
-> touch event will arise -> screen will brighten
-> CdS sensor's resistance will change -> Arduino will record the timestamp, and send latency time to the computer.
Button's stroke is very short (<1mm) and I touched screen very fast so, time difference between button click and touch input can be neglected.
I've tested on these devices
GNex : JB4.3, Rooted, recent Fancy kernel, zRam enabled, Governor OndemandPlus(governor change won't made big difference)
SGS2 : JB4.1.2(Korean, SKT), My friends' own. no rooted, many apps installed.
SGS2 : Gingerbread(I forgot the build number. Korean. SKT), Factory resetted.
Optimus G Pro : JB 4.1.2(Korean, LG U+), My colleague's.
6. Result.
GNex
x axis : sorted sample.
y axis : response time(us)
left tail and right tail may be false input/lag caused by background apps.
uniform distribution between [75ms, 92ms]. note that interval of 1 frame on 60FPS is 16.6ms
SGS2(JB):
uniform between [115ms, 150ms]. I think there might be some synchronization failure. touch response distributed on 2 frames.
SGS2(Gingerbread):
uniform between [100ms, 120ms], but have smoother tails than SGS2's
OptimusG Pro:
Fairly better than samsung's. I don't know why.
Have anyone a question/improvement/objection?
Nexus 5 response time
Hi there, great experiment, seems like android response time isn't so bad after 4.2
Just wondering, would you be able to get your hands on a new Nexus 5 and do the same test? apparently it has good touch screen which should result in a low response time.
Or someone could also do a complete Touch+Audio latency test. This is the way I like to do it:
Install a musical app, either drumming or keyboard.
Install a sound recording app,
Start recording audio and give the screen a good tap in the musical app, this way both the "tap" and resulting drum or keyboard sound will get recorded.
Open that saved .wav up in audacity then zoom in and observe the visual audio waveforms then measure the distance between the TAP and the sound actually playing.
On my devices I was getting around 175ms if the particular music app used the "Sound Pool" class or 250+ if using "Audio Track" I'm running android 4.2.
I hope you or some lucky dude with a Nexus 5 can do this test, there are dozens of nexus 5 reviews popping up online but NONE provide this sort of information, and if anyone wants the Nexus 5 for real-time music creation we need to know this info, and we need to make it public
**I know the test isn't accurate down to the ms but it is accurate to around 5-10ms which should be good enough to gauge its approximate performance.
Hi! and thank you for your reply!
ianmere said:
Hi there, great experiment, seems like android response time isn't so bad after 4.2
Just wondering, would you be able to get your hands on a new Nexus 5 and do the same test? apparently it has good touch screen which should result in a low response time.
Or someone could also do a complete Touch+Audio latency test. This is the way I like to do it:
Install a musical app, either drumming or keyboard.
Install a sound recording app,
Start recording audio and give the screen a good tap in the musical app, this way both the "tap" and resulting drum or keyboard sound will get recorded.
Open that saved .wav up in audacity then zoom in and observe the visual audio waveforms then measure the distance between the TAP and the sound actually playing.
On my devices I was getting around 175ms if the particular music app used the "Sound Pool" class or 250+ if using "Audio Track" I'm running android 4.2.
I hope you or some lucky dude with a Nexus 5 can do this test, there are dozens of nexus 5 reviews popping up online but NONE provide this sort of information, and if anyone wants the Nexus 5 for real-time music creation we need to know this info, and we need to make it public
**I know the test isn't accurate down to the ms but it is accurate to around 5-10ms which should be good enough to gauge its approximate performance.
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Hi! and thank you for your reply!
I checked this thread for a long time. sorry for the late.
I highly inspired by your audio latency experiment!
I lately bought a new nexus5 and now I'm full with willingness to build new experiment on it, but unluckily I'm very busy day and night. I have to be stucked in my office for a while
Whenever I get some new results, I'll promise not to hesitate to post it on this thread.
Thank you.
Trying to replicate your experiment
Hello foriequal0,
I have tried to replicate your experiment with little success.
Here are some pics of my setup (Arduino Uno)
Note the conducting film around the switch (not easy to see) to make contact with my finger
and some results...
Not sure what might be the conclusion (especially for trial 3 - D2-727 tablet).
I am concerned whit the high variability of my results ...
This is my first post on a forum so please indulge if it is not perfect!
2014 May 1st addition:
After many tests, I achieved more stability and here is the result for the D2-227 Android tablet: