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ASK: Messenger on Wi-Fi?

Soo... does Windows messenger not work over a Wi-Fi connection? Mine only seems to want to work over the data network (edge) Soon as i got the no-data installed and turned off the edge bands, it no longer wants to connect.
Anyway to tell it to use the Wi-Fi? or will i have to get a muilti chat client to connect to it?

That's odd. Messenger works for me via wifi. I turned off the phone radio, turned on my wifi, attempted to log in to Messenger, and it works.

I jus tried that to.. no luck. i just get "Their's a connectivity problem, make sure you're in an area with good reception and try again"

This might be an issue with your network selection.
Check in connection setting --> advanced --> select networks.

Hilal said:
This might be an issue with your network selection.
Check in connection setting --> advanced --> select networks.
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Ahh.. sweet thanks. It works now

Question regarding disabling Data connection GPRS (TP2) T-Mobile

I recently received a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 cell. I'm NOT paying for web service and would like to only use Wi-Fi. If I disable my data connection under the communication manager, would this mean that I will not be using T-Mobiles web service and only my Wi-Fi? Can I still receive calls/text messages when the data connection is set to off? Do I have to worry about the data connection setting automatically turning on by itself for whatever reason?

DADDYDC650 said:
I recently received a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 cell. I'm NOT paying for web service and would like to only use Wi-Fi. If I disable my data connection under the communication manager, would this mean that I will not be using T-Mobiles web service and only my Wi-Fi? Can I still receive calls/text messages when the data connection is set to off? Do I have to worry about the data connection setting automatically turning on by itself for whatever reason?
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Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Flipping that switch manually turns off your phone's 3G connection, and you can still make/receive calls/sms. However, as soon as some app or process needs a data link (ones that don't/won't use the wifi connection), it will flip that connection right back on.

sirphunkee said:
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Flipping that switch manually turns off your phone's 3G connection, and you can still make/receive calls/sms. However, as soon as some app or process needs a data link (ones that don't/won't use the wifi connection), it will flip that connection right back on.
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Which apps do I have to worry about flipping the connection on? I only plan on surfing the web and I don't plan on setting up my e-mail account. I only want to text and browse the web using my TP2. Thanks for the response.

DADDYDC650 said:
Which apps do I have to worry about flipping the connection on? I only plan on surfing the web and I don't plan on setting up my e-mail account. I only want to text and browse the web using my TP2. Thanks for the response.
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Well Google Maps for one, it insists on downloading through your 3G data connection even if you're connected to wifi. There may be others that will ignore a wifi connection and fall back on 3G, I don't know off the top of my head, you can dig around here some to see if there's any reference to that (I know I've seen it, just don't have it bookmarked)

Yes, some apps are automatically enabling the data connection.
My solution:
go to Settings > Connections >
and delete the 'data connection' for your provider.
Their you could also go to advanced and choose which networks will be used for what type of connection; play with it.
The data connection isn't used for 'calls', only if you are calling over IP (skype e.g.)
With a program like SPB wireless monitor, you can see which connection has used how many bandwidth.
HTH,
Fossie

fossieniel said:
Yes, some apps are automatically enabling the data connection.
My solution:
go to Settings > Connections >
and delete the 'data connection' for your provider.
Their you could also go to advanced and choose which networks will be used for what type of connection; play with it.
The data connection isn't used for 'calls', only if you are calling over IP (skype e.g.)
With a program like SPB wireless monitor, you can see which connection has used how many bandwidth.
HTH,
Fossie
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How do I go about deleting the data connection from my provider? I'm lost!

There is an easier way. Use the Modoco NoData cab and it turns off the data connection until you turn it back on. This way if you decide that you want to use the data later you dont have to find out and enter your settings again.
It works very well.
For those who want to restrict the data to thier home carrier ie: no roaming the Dynamic+ NoDataInRoaming is ideal as it automatically switches on and off when you enter and leave your home area.

Anyone can answer about data connection?

When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?

It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network

You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.

By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.

Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...

So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.

When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.

gogol said:
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.

Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Weather GPS works with Wi-Fi but not with Data plan.

I have a U.S. Cellular TP2 working well with T-Mobile (Radio 2.32.00WU) except that the HTC Weather GPS Location doesn't update when it's connected with normal Data plan. It just updates when it's connected to a Wi-Fi connection. Google Maps works fine with either Data or Wi-Fi.Tried many tweaks and cabs on this forum and still nothing. Maybe it something trivial but I don't know what is it. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Set your connection correctly under all setting-connections My work network should but be selected.

drewcam888 said:
My work network should but be selected.
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What? My Work Network settings are empty. What does this have to do with GPS Data?
What do you mean I need to select My Work Network where? On Connections/ Advanced tab, Select Networks. Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using: My Work Network ? Like it was on default? That doesn't do anything.

Kevinik said:
What? My Work Network settings are empty. What does this have to do with GPS Data?
What do you mean I need to select My Work Network where? On Connections/ Advanced tab, Select Networks. Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using: My Work Network ? Like it was on default? That doesn't do anything.
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It sounds like your data connection is not set up. The advanced tab should point to the data connection, not the Work connection.

stevedebi said:
It sounds like your data connection is not set up. The advanced tab should point to the data connection, not the Work connection.
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The data setup works well enough. I was just asking the previous poster what did he meant by selecting My Work connection.

phone doesn't seem to recognise cellular data on certain apps

My phone works fine for WiFi and cellular data does work for web browsing, emails, downloading apps and files etc but if I try to connect to the inbuilt VPN it fails and says no data connection available(WiFi works well).
Same for my sip phone app, it also doesn't connect on cellular data bit WiFi does.
Any thoughts on what is wrong/happening and how to resolve?

t3rm3y said:
My phone works fine for WiFi and cellular data does work for web browsing, emails, downloading apps and files etc but if I try to connect to the inbuilt VPN it fails and says no data connection available(WiFi works well).
Same for my sip phone app, it also doesn't connect on cellular data bit WiFi does.
Any thoughts on what is wrong/happening and how to resolve?
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Check bro, (Restict data usages) where these apps are not Block through cellular connection

mitu725 said:
Check bro, (Restict data usages) where these apps are not Block through cellular connection
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Hi . these apps gave WiFi and cellular data enabled. Any other options?