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[FIXED] My First cab - T-Mobile UK customised threaded SMS

Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html

If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.

Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks

nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
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Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic

Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?

screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that

I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.

Thanks man. Your word is always good enough

OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.

You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.

i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...

There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.

i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..

Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius

Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks

One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..

Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius

How to turn off keyboard lights?

I would like to know if there is a registry or app that turns off the keyboard backlight.
The idea is save battery life during the day or while reading a big text. I already use the Lowlight to reduce the light intensity but the keyb light many times is useless.
I already teste some regs mentioned for others phones but didn't work in the nrg rose (QKeybTimeout and QKeyb another thing...).
I noticed that the keyb light turns off while browsing a big email in the native wm mail. I think it's possible to find a reg monitoring this function, but i don't know about any wm 6.1 reg monitor like ceregspy for ppc.
thanks for the help

go to power management in settings and you can lower the time that it's lit up

Did you really read my question?

puace said:
Did you really read my question?
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I asked this same question and got nothiing, probably would save some daytime batt life i'd think.

puace said:
Did you really read my question?
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Ever think of searching through the registry yourself? I'll do it when I have time but instead of complaining that someone did not read your post how about trying to help yourself first?

puace said:
I would like to know if there is a registry or app that turns off the keyboard backlight.
The idea is save battery life during the day or while reading a big text. I already use the Lowlight to reduce the light intensity but the keyb light many times is useless.
I already teste some regs mentioned for others phones but didn't work in the nrg rose (QKeybTimeout and QKeyb another thing...).
I noticed that the keyb light turns off while browsing a big email in the native wm mail. I think it's possible to find a reg monitoring this function, but i don't know about any wm 6.1 reg monitor like ceregspy for ppc.
thanks for the help
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you could also use the save battery life cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413297&highlight=battery

I want to turn off keyboard backlight while using the mobile.
I'm surprised that nobody knows how to this while people did complex roms compilations like kavana and nrg rose.

I turn off keyboard backlight :
I replace backlight.dll from HTC Vox to \Windows dir, and keyboard backlight after reboot is off, but not working LightConfig, and if device is go to sleep then screen is white :-(((((
(i dont have backlight.dll from another smartphones, if you have it, please .... any ideas?

if device lock - keyboard light off.
if device reboot - keyboard light light more times off.
if we turn off keyboard light - device life is long
/sorry of my english

any new ideas?
(i want save the battery and turn off backligh keyboard)

here's something for ya, i've only tried this on my blackjack 1 though.
go to HKCU\ControlPanel\KeypadBacklight and change your registry settings to look like this.
EndTime...........0x0(0)
mode...............0x1(1)
i'll make a cab, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it.

dermann said:
here's something for ya, i've only tried this on my blackjack 1 though.
go to HKCU\ControlPanel\KeypadBacklight and change your registry settings to look like this.
EndTime...........0x0(0)
mode...............0x1(1)
i'll make a cab, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it.
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Don't have that value in 6.1... Just to let ya know

stylez said:
Don't have that value in 6.1... Just to let ya know
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hmm... maybe i spoke to soon, i'll test it out on my dash and see what happens.
EDIT well stylez your right, ookba's 6.5 doesn't even have it. so adding it in won't do any good either. it worked on my bj1 that's running starca's 6.1. but obviously a different phone and such.

dermann said:
hmm... maybe i spoke to soon, i'll test it out on my dash and see what happens.
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It's worth a try to create the reg, just been searchin and seems a common question on many phones that no one answers

haha well i have nothing going on at the moment, so i'll make a small effort to figure it out. no promises though people.
EDIT well after some searching i would like to think i've narrowed it down to the HTCUtil.dll and/or the keybddr.dll that controls how long the keypad lights are on. but i have no way of telling for sure, just a guess.

So anybody? make a cab that has a simple icon like light config, lets make it so all power on keyboard is off during the day.
or something. ?

HTCS621Smartphone said:
So anybody? make a cab that has a simple icon like light config, lets make it so all power on keyboard is off during the day.
or something. ?
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Well without knowing how to control it then a "simple" .cab with .lnk is out of the question

stylez said:
Well without knowing how to control it then a "simple" .cab with .lnk is out of the question
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Ahh lol no doubt i know this is kinda an old question so shes dead too bad, lights out for during the day would been nice, my battery in my S621 on wi-fi all day gives me 10 hours 11am-9pm i bet battery life would last like insane if we could disable the lights on keys.

Upgrade WM6.5 ROM V6.30EN By Lovebabyjing Build 23017 - it includes options for this, go to Settings -> Power Management. There you'll find settings that work for the keypad too!

uccellino said:
Upgrade WM6.5 ROM V6.30EN By Lovebabyjing Build 23017 - it includes options for this, go to Settings -> Power Management. There you'll find settings that work for the keypad too!
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I knew my invision was possible Nice just got er running and its fast as Hell too Nice Mon...

A set of querries..

hello frnd. i have faced a few problems cooking wm6.5 roms recently. which if you find a solution then share with me asap. am not releasing newer version of my roms cause am busy with my exams and not able to get enough time to fix these bugs.
1st of all am using da_g's kitchen for wm6.5:
here are the problems i am having..
1st. i use youtube that does not require touch flo 3d. you only provided me with the oem. i open application. it loads the videos section. but when i click on any video to view it, i get an error " cannot play this video" i have tried to cook flashlite3 as well as the oone in da_g's kitchens but with no help.
2nd where can i get oem or cab for htc gesture 2. tried searching.
3rd Da_g's recording modification with wm dialer is great. but is it possible to add it to htc dialer?? although have sent him this ques but still if other could fine a soln.
4th how to change link to chome photos directry
5th i dont want date and time setting to start on clicking clock at chome. i dont want anything to happen when i click on clock in titanium.
6th the volume managers do install and work fine normally. but during call, i do not get the call volume display to change call volume. instead i get the usual system and ring volume control display and am unable to change call volume. i have tried both standard and topaz volume manager. could be a build issue but not able to fins a soln yet.
am using notification menu with buttons. could this be causing the issue.?
if you are able to find any possible solutions then feel free to let me know.

[NEED HELP!] HD TAKES TOO LONG TO WAKE UP -many missed calls..-

Till now i have found just about everything in xda! Even a similar thread for the same problem but no solution at all!
Thing is, my hd takes too long to wake up for an incoming call..resulting in missed calls all the time..Ring starts in about 3,5 tones..!!! It wakes almost instandly (backlight) but it takes a lot of time to draw the picture etc and THEN starts ringing..
[i am on MIRIS V18 wm6.5, using the default WM dialer with the sliders (not htc's one!) and csdev for autolocking after wake up]
I had similar problems in many roms, even 6.1 .. with the fastest one being 1,5 tone then ring.. Its allready too long for me! I have tried some tweaks, i am not using mp3 for ringtone, using instant ring from hdtweak and no ring delay setting etc..still no luck..
What can be done? I know that many users have the same problem, even with stock roms.. Its same for such a device to be able to do everything sooo sweat but not the phone function!!
So any special tricks?? (font, gdi cache etc settings?) i heard that with sktools and advanced configuration tool etc you can do actually much about that!
Feel free to post your experinces as well, hoping that someone can provide us with a solution or a worthy workaround..!!

I've got the same problem, always have to call people back. Mostly takes about 5 seconds before the answerbutton works, while ringtone is already pissing off the other passengers in the bus
I still think the slow buildip is caused by Wisbar Advance, I used the HD Tweak aswell.

Very Good POST yes you are right many peoples have the same problem i have the same problem!
So i try with HD tweak "Ring without delay" i try with Advanced config and etc Again the same really when someone ring me no matter from the ringtone or anything the phone start ringing after few seconds!
I make few test and what i saw is that if the phone is sleeping when someone call you take longer your phone to wake up and ring
then i try again with no sleepy phone, again ring with delay so i can say if the phone sleep he need few seconds to ring like 5 seconds if the phone not sleep he need 3-4 seconds But at all This is serious problem and maybe is time we to fix this!
I don`t see any point this device to be able to do so much things and we always to Upgrade them but the phone function that we use everyday to make us troubles!
I have this problem with the stock room when the phone was brand new, after i flash the phone with Davideuck V 5 have the same and now im with Davideuck v7 and again is the same ! so no matter what kind of room or radio version you use this problem is real... and really the phone ring with DELAY
Will be perfect if anyone can find desigion of this problem and our phones to start ring immediately without any delay !
Thanks

I have been struggling for months with well-known this 2-sec (far more than this !) delay. The HD tweak didn't work for me either. Furthermore, it has been reported that even if this setting is changed, it is self-reset after a soft reset !
The only solution I found is replacing the HD Caller ID with the WM default one. It is very ugly compared to the modern HTC one, but now my phone takes only 1 sec to respond, that is, wake up, show the Caller ID screen and start ringing.
This replacement can be done from the settings of the HD tweak.
Please let me know if this works for you ! I'm running stock ROM.

Yes if we use the default WM dialer the PHONE is very very fast and ring without ANY delay but its very UGLY so maybe the problem is in the dailer!
Like i say no matter what room you use yes its the same for me with the default WM and the phone just think faster than me
Maybe some programers must to chek this out why this heppand maybe the HD dialer is too heavy?

Yes,thats true! But i am using wm dialer, not htc's one!! Still far from fast..(although i am on wm 6.5 where the default wm dialer with the answering sliders looks awesome, its buggy and slow as hell..[because it needs that the phone is locked in order to run so])
So as i asked around in a major greek forum i have found out that 99% of hd users have the same issue! [that 1% doesn't give a s&@t !]
Here too..What can we do about it..?I am starting to think the 1,5 tone delay as acceptable value..[told you i am on 3+ right now!!] Does anybody know if windows 6.5 that lock with external programm [like csdev] on wake up take normaly so long? Ideas...?

it's always not a good idea to fresh new rom too often

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it's always not a good idea to fresh new rom too often
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That has nothing to do with the problem man..!
If we could find a way to minimize the load on wakeup!! (so the hd has nothing to load more than the phone function!)is it possible?

Like i told you with the default WM dialer with WM 6.1 the phone ring without delay and is like every normal phone so this mean that the problem is in the dialer..
I think that the HD dialer is too heavy or buggy and this is the reason why take so long to wake up.. the phone!
Maybe some programers must to chek this out what is the diference betwen the default WM dialer and HD dialer we all know what is the diference.. but i mean the diference not how they look like how they are made and all other litle codec files..
So maybe we can find solution to update the HD dialer to be fast as the default WM one..
No matter you are with WM 6.5 and etc.. because till the problem is not solved no matter what room you will use the dialers will be the same made from the same files..
to resolve this we need to know what exactly is the problem to be able to fix it!
Like i say i think that we can find answers in the DIALER but im not programer..

this is very true and this is a very good post gonna supscribe to instant email about it right now ... i think the problem is not only in the dialer i have a stock rom and i had the problem since the very first day but i got a greater delay after installing spb pocket plus while i am not actually using manilla anymore and even a greater delay after installing wisbar advance 3 ... maybe the solution would be in the processor priorities i dont know

So far, i haven't found any solution .
I already made the same post a few months ago :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3902624#post3902624

there's got to be a way guys!!
Some time ago, both sides recording was a total NO(!) for htc devices!! They say it was HARDWARE ISSUE and nothing could be done!(for over a year+) Then .. ICR and..voila! We even got tmc now! !
Is it possible to have the slugiest of all phones?? no way!

I think is a question of time we to find solution for our problem with the phone ringing delay!

Managed to get it to 1,5 rings in the same situation!( as i described before, no rom change etc..i was on 3,5 + rings remember!!)
I installed advanced config tool and played with the phone and performance settings.. performance almost set to max values..(font cache etc..)
Phone settings no delay, end key delay from 3000ms to 0 etc..(there are some settings there, so be sure to know what you are doing or backup first!)
Think i can get it to 1..!which will be extremely fast from what i experienced so far!!
Note: the improvements are for the second+ call after a softreset! The first one is ALWAYS slugish!!

Hi kostasalfa,
Mind posting your Adv Config settings? Thanks.

After long... long search I found maybe a solution:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
Script value to av0pr
I'm going to test but it seems the true way ^^ (thx to AX3L)
D'rath

Ok .. not a "true" solution but got INSTANT ring! (before the end of the first tone!!)
As i said i was on wm 6.5 using the kinda buggy default lock etc...After my advan.config setting which was an improvement i did the following! Stopped csdev and so the deafult lock! I did go back to S2U2 !! (warning,important: set delay after wake up to 300 or better 400 ms!!) And then i tried resco contact manager!(again!) But there is a new beta free for all of you in their forum!( http://www.resco.net/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=24957 ) Set it to HANDLE INCOMING CALLS! Soft reset.. and voila!! (install s2u2 in device..resco better in sd!)
As i said..not a true solution but i GOT INSTANT RING!!
DONT FORGET TO USE HD TWEAK TO REVERT TO DEFAUL WM DIALER, NOT HTC;S ONE!!!
Try abd tell me if it worked for you!

i use the new energy rom 6.5 standard hav no problems with ring time or receive any late calls or miss calls u guys must check out the roms before loading them

Thanks for suggesting to try Resco Contact Manager. The new beta version seems to have corrected the incoming call delay. So far, my HD responded just before the first ring ends. Still testing.

tatou said:
Thanks for suggesting to try Resco Contact Manager. The new beta version seems to have corrected the incoming call delay. So far, my HD responded just before the first ring ends. Still testing.
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Good news! Resco did it i think..
(i may try the energy rom as wingtytn suggested but i dont think its a roms issue..Ps:wingtytn try to call yourself from another phone to see WHEN it starts ringing..if you got no issues i would lke to know!you use wm stadar dialer?etc!)

SmartToolKit Help???

i have tried to find it via search and nothing... So here we go 4 questions...
1. any good place for step by step stuff on settings for it ect....
2. anyone able to tell me how to set a scheduale to run a program? basically i want the keyboard light to turn off and on via autokeylight
3. how to set Explorere key to auto stop all processes to free ram?
4. is there a way to make tasks button defaulted back to the orignal soft button inputs?
sorry guys these forums are so big sometimes the answers are hidden deep in a thread not about this...

disregaurd i removed it do to a conflict that caused it to crash and lockup my buttons.

RC08 you want to use with Excalibur

RC09 works good if you're running oOkBa's 3VO 6.5!
RC08 is good for 6.1 like Stylez said!

was runny rick version of 6.1 but kept freaking out the 08 version, so uninstalled it. no biggie i get what i want out of it.
thanks for the reply i might try to cook my own rom cause i want certain funcs and some removed.