Im thinking of upgrading can you please - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi ya all,
i have not been here for a long time,see my sig, im still using the same phone
with the same software and have no problems at all.
however i thinks its time to upgrade. so here comes the most stupidist
question ever ask on this forum because it should be so obvious to me.
is it worth upgrading to the "Rhodium" or can you suggest another htc
that can or nearly match it ?
since the last time i was here this forum has exploded so i must say.
Thanks for all the time and effort that you guys have put into this website
to make it what it is today..... nothing short of GREAT.
thank you
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wm6: worth it or not?

Hi all,
I have a question and I know people will flame but I really don't have enough time to research like I always do before I make my first post on a message board.
In this case though, I just bought a dopod 838 Pro/ Herm 100 and I will be starting a new job and will be using this phone. I have it flashed for cingular with the wm5 rom from this site and it works great!
My question is, I would like to run wm6 on this phone. Like I said I just don't really have much time to search the site and find out more about this. All I need to know is if upgrading to wm6 on this phone can be done yet using it with cingular and if it can, is it worth it?
I did find the page that has all the flashing roms on it for wm6 but I haven't had the time to figure out what each one is.
I hate to be the one to drop the noob question but because of starting my new job I need to flash it soon if I'm going to do it at all and that doesn't leave me with much time to search the boards and really read up on this.
Thanks for your help!
Ben
as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
SkyyBoy said:
as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
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I am reading around as much as I can. I just though I'd ask the quick question for as much help as I can get. thanks for the help...
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
JasenR said:
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
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haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
Hmmmm.
Yes you can do the Cingular thing, a couple of roms have Cingular versions, such as Custels v2.5.
I would install Hard-SPL-V7 before you install anything else since it will protect your phone from a lot of possible problems.
It may also be worth upgrading to Radio rom version 1.38 or 1.40, 1.41. seems to be variable in its effectiveness for different folks.
Is it worth it? Yes, speed and stability are much greater, but only if you are prepared to read up and fix issues as they arrive. These roms dont come with a guarantee, and whilst the main ones I have tried (Custel, LVSW and Black) have been stable for me they have had quirks (bluetooth, wifi, etc) for other people that require you to go and seek answers if you encounter them.
If your Dopod is unstable and crashes regularly on its current rom then its probably worth your while, if you need it for your job and its already stable then I would think carefully about it.
By the way, great video series.
Sleuth255 said:
WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
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cool, that's what I needed to know. I will now dig into the boards and learn all there is to know before flashing my phone.
thanks!
ben dover said:
haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
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Oh, it is absolutely a worthwhile upgrade. Much better than WM5, and the radio that Slueth mentioned is flawless.
HAHAHA gotta love the name " Ben Dover" hahaha. In my famous saying. " Hey you, your an idiot".
All the cool kids are doing it...
Unless you work 24 hours a day every day and NEVER have any free time, then you DO have time to read-up on this stuff and that bull**** excuse you provided is worthless. You don't have to do this before you start your job. What the hell is that? You can flash it at anytime when you have it, and once you'
ve read enough about what you're doing you'll know it takes less than a hour to get it all flashed and apps re-installed. Christ. Atleast come here with a better excuse than you don't have time. I'm sorry. i don't have time to help you any further.
Can someone close or delete this crap. *sigh*
Every goddamn day the same questions from lazy individuals that want everything handed to them.
He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
Sleuth255 said:
He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
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How is that a valid question hiden behind the fact that he used BS about not having time to read? You're getting sick of this; how about all of us that have to see the same threads day in and day out from people too lazy to read for a little? There was a thread with this same question a day ago!
How about a "yes", then lock the thread. Thread answered. He has time to post a thread, but none to read the forum?
He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
seriously the aggression is unnecessary. lets all try to keep it to the witty one-liners and simple sarcasm
My answer: yes it is worth it. I use my 8525 for work all the time with wm6. However, the official rom will be out soon, and if you dont want to deal with a potential brick you might wanna hold off for that.
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He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
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Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
ronfin44 said:
Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
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And his question was answered that it is a worthwhile upgrade and that he needed to do his reading first. He thanked the responders for the replies and went to go do the research. Everyone was happy. Why explode after the fact?
Thread closed then. I've got some post research to do on ronfin44.... Hopefully you don't make a living on this forum doing newbie bashing.
edit: 24 hour ban imposed. A quick search will reveal the reason.

OMG I need help upgrading

Ok well I stumbled upon this forum in search of a way to fix my 8525. My problem was that the media player on my phone wont recognize the memory card. I upgraded from the Cingular wireless operating system to the AT&T version. I see that you guys have a WM6 version and hopefully that would solve my problem along with the bugs in WM5.
I had no idea I would be so overwhelmed by technology. I really hope this means Im just out of the loop and not that Im getting old.
I downloaded the file from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952
but I dont have a program to decompress it. So I downloaded winrar from download.com and now windows still says it doesnt know what program it is and wont open it.
Can some one please give me a step by step on how to install WM6 for my Cingular 8525. Also, which version should I use? There seems to be many different versions up and they all have their own thread. As long as it will play my mp3s and have support for a 2 or 4gb micro sd
I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.
Thank you so much for your help!
Jim
jimbo69ny said:
I really hope this means Im just out of the loop and not that Im getting old.
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How old are you
Mrvanx guides is what you want do a quick search and you'll find it.
yeah, we don't have time to SEARCH FOR IT FOR YOU either. Sometimes you have to sacrifice.. lol .. that's funny 'I dont have time .. ' lol .. well .. MAKE time or brick your phone.
if you don't have time to read up, then you shouldnt upgrade your phone. since you definately need to read up and do research, start with the wiki.
-Nstefanelli-
wpbear said:
How old are you
Mrvanx guides is what you want do a quick search and you'll find it.
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Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
By atleast telling me to search for Mrvanx guides I found them and I got it done. I now have Black Satin on my phone. Im not all that happy with the media player and the phone will randomly freeze up using Black Satin. Is there a better OS to use? I also really dont like that it doesnt have voice dial.
Jim
random freeze could be due to application you've installed has issues with WM6. just by wm6 black satin itself, does your phone freeze too?
The best place for you to start is the places below my signature. The WIKI first, since you've a lot a learning to do. Then Mr. Vanx Upgrade Guides; follow the directions carefully, don't take any shortcuts and you'll be flashing ROMs like an expert in no time. If you follow any of these forums for long you'll also see a great deal of frustration from folks who spend a great deal of time answering new threads on old questions that are already answered in the WIKI and just need to be searched (hence, your previous replies....)
Best wishes
Thank you for your help.
I used Mr Vanx upgrade guide to get Black Satin installed. I will read the Hermes WIKI and Wiktionary next time I have a few hours to kill.
The freezing seems to have stoped after a few soft resets but I am really not happy with the Media manager. My main motivation for doing all this was because I really wanted a stellar media player. On my WM5 version media player it stoped regonizing my memory card and the only way I could play music was to go through file explorer and play them each individually. Even the media player in WM6 wont recognize my card. Its a brand new card. grrrrr
I have gotten countless error messages. It will also just randomly stop playing. You name it!
"The titles associated with this playlist no longer exsist" - a new message I just got
its just so fustrating
jimbo69ny said:
Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
By atleast telling me to search for Mrvanx guides I found them and I got it done. I now have Black Satin on my phone. Im not all that happy with the media player and the phone will randomly freeze up using Black Satin. Is there a better OS to use? I also really dont like that it doesnt have voice dial.
Jim
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you know, labeling us unhelpful aint gonna motivate us.
flash schap's 3.54c.
.....I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.....
uhhhmm am i still half asleep or am i really reading this right? want us to hold your hand while you search through the forums? i know i was in the same situation as you at least a month ago. but dont remember sounding demanding as you. your royal highness..
...Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
we will leave this for your MOM to do for you...
cant believe this.. dont think i feel good today..
hey steve! looks like youre in a roll today! last time i checked you had 76 posts now your at 100...
OP should be thankful for your kind help.......
p.s.
asking how old OP is, is really a valid question...
bapski said:
.....I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.....
uhhhmm am i still half asleep or am i really reading this right? want us to hold your hand while you search through the forums? i know i was in the same situation as you at least a month ago. but dont remember sounding demanding as you. your royal highness..
...Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
we will leave this for your MOM to do for you...
cant believe this.. dont think i feel good today..
hey steve! looks like youre in a roll today! last time i checked you had 76 posts now your at 100...
OP should be thankful for your kind help.......
p.s.
asking how old OP is, is really a valid question...
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Wow Thats awesome.
Your right I really dont have time to be messing with all this. Not that I need to validate myself to you but I have a full time job that occupies most of my time but when Im not there Im at my property management company overseeing my employees and making sure their working.
Unfortunetly this turned out to be way more complex than I originally thought. But as they say, if you want it done right.....
wpbear helped by telling me to do a search for Mr vanx guides. How would I have otherwise know wno the hell Mr Vanx was and why would I have known he had guides. So thank you wpbear ps Im 25
Thank you nstefanelli for telling me to look up Wiki and thank you stevebonning for the links.
And bapski, Hows this for demanding......... I demand for you to eat my ass!
Oh and another error message I keep getting is
"Memory critically low"
"You must select one task to close"
Audio Manager
Active Sync
These are the only two programs I have open and I have plenty of memory
You dont have to answer me. Ill do the research. I just thought Id post what I saw.
You must flash HARD SPL v7 and flash new rom.
read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322674
Oszi said:
You must flash HARD SPL v7 and flash new rom.
read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322674
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Ok Ill try that later on.
Thanks
Bapski;
Was killing some time here at the hospital. My colleagues were really getting me frustrated, so I thought i'd spend some time here at the forum.....don't know it that was a wise decision........
I will say however, that I spent the first several weeks on this forum just reading threads and the WIKI. I was terrified to post, fearful of a flame. What I did learn during that time of observation and reading is that not too many people do it, and I saw how many of the mods got (and continue to get) frustrated at the lack of willingness of new members to take the info that is here in the forum and help themselves. I've just passed 100 posts but I don't think any of them was a request for help. Don't need much help as long as I can read....
Where are you loading your programs too? The mem card or the device itself? I have Satin and no lock up issues but I think the low memory is what is locking your device up. Also you can check Black sating website and he has a file cab with Cybertron Voice dial and also for Cybertron Voice command.
Jimbo69NY;
One thing for sure is that you will need a good deal of time when it comes to upgrading, flashing, etc. Not just the learning process, but the inevitable bugs and stumbles along the way. Especially at the beginning you need to make sure everything is done right (The Upgrade Guides help here as well as having Hard SpL installed). But this process does take time and if you don't have the time to spend, you're risking making your phone a brick. Once you get going it's a lot of fun. I'm flashing more often now than that homeless guy on the corner!
Enjoy!
jimbo69ny said:
Wow Thats awesome.
Your right I really dont have time to be messing with all this. Not that I need to validate myself to you but I have a full time job that occupies most of my time but when Im not there Im at my property management company overseeing my employees and making sure their working.
Unfortunetly this turned out to be way more complex than I originally thought. But as they say, if you want it done right.....
wpbear helped by telling me to do a search for Mr vanx guides. How would I have otherwise know wno the hell Mr Vanx was and why would I have known he had guides. So thank you wpbear ps Im 25
Thank you nstefanelli for telling me to look up Wiki and thank you stevebonning for the links.
And bapski, Hows this for demanding......... I demand for you to eat my ass!
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all if not most of us here have full time jobs. so that again is a lame excuse.
sure like does not behave a 25 year old.. and you with employees? yeah right.. good luck to your company...
good riddance to your errors mate.. everything's in the wiki...
stevebonning said:
Bapski;
I will say however, that I spent the first several weeks on this forum just reading threads and the WIKI. I was terrified to post, fearful of a flame. What I did learn during that time of observation and reading is that not too many people do it, and I saw how many of the mods got (and continue to get) frustrated at the lack of willingness of new members to take the info that is here in the forum and help themselves.
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Ditto to that
ericc191 said:
Ditto to that
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same here.. too bad not to many new people do that. and its a shame how the same people come out to be the arrogant and cocky ones when they are reminded to also help themselves first by doing a simple research. heck its just like doing your homework. if you've done a homework in your lifetime i think youd be able to figure out doing a search and their will be less useless time and space in here...

sorry for the dumb question

I currently own a kaiser, but I'm looking for a wm phone for my wife. I just wanted to ask if this phone
http://www.scimin.com/products/604379.html
is the same as the p3300. I don't want to buy a phone that I can't upgrade the rom on. Thanks ahead of time and if anyone can direct me to where I can get a good deal on one of these it'd be much appreciated. Thanks
yes, the product title says it is a "P3300".

Omnia i900 Roms

Helo guys, I have just started watching this forum for few days and searching and trying to learn about different rom and cooked rom. so far so good i didnt understand a thing all this thing im trying is cause im buying Omnia i900 tomorrow... before buying i wanted to learn about winmo things many ppl say many things "smart people smart phone blabla" i used to do programming once for pc not for mobiles. anyway i want to be part of this forum as well. if you have spare time please teach me a little bit how can i make my Omnia better working since i heard some issues about this phone as well. of course i know no phone is perfect and here in our country other high end phone is too expensive... i hope my words doesnt offend any one... please leave a reply if you feel friendly... thanks...
modaco for omnia
rasumia said:
Helo guys, I have just started watching this forum for few days and searching and trying to learn about different rom and cooked rom. so far so good i didnt understand a thing all this thing im trying is cause im buying Omnia i900 tomorrow... before buying i wanted to learn about winmo things many ppl say many things "smart people smart phone blabla" i used to do programming once for pc not for mobiles. anyway i want to be part of this forum as well. if you have spare time please teach me a little bit how can i make my Omnia better working since i heard some issues about this phone as well. of course i know no phone is perfect and here in our country other high end phone is too expensive... i hope my words doesnt offend any one... please leave a reply if you feel friendly... thanks...
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try this http://www.modaco.com/forum.html

[Q] NOOB question. please help me. thanks guys.

okay so i am recently changing over from android. and i understand i can have best of both worlds on this phone. if anybody would be kind enough to tell me how do i get android on my phone. and also how do you install roms. i really like the energy-roms. links to these items would be greatly appreciated. thanks guys. im a noob at this so please bear with me im new to windows phone. thanks & God Bless.
Start reading the following links
guide for newbs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Unlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
And for Andriod,
Spend a good amount of time in the section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=589
Hope this helps and Merry Christmas..
Thanks. i hit google last night and didnt go to bed till i found the info i needed. and i came across all of those pages except for the android one.
by the way. are you using a rom? if you are which one are you using and is there another that you recoomend me to use?
Thank you. Hope your next few days are filled with joy. God Bless.
Well generally what say is what most will say, after you have used the Hard sPL unlocker, i would recommend a simple Rom that has been stripped of all the bloat ware, to get a feel for the speed and responsiveness , then after you get bored with it, then try the other Roms that the fine chef have cooked.
Here is what i have been using, its simple and fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
Kwbr is getting ready to update the Rom shortly with a newer version.
thanks i was getting stuff ready for when i my parents got me my phone this chirstmas. turns out the got me a unlocked HD2. so im guessing it works the same, since they both run windows 6.5 right?
I would head over to the HD forum and start reading, some may be the same but there will be differences ...i would still set up both phones with stock stripped Roms and compare them both...i still favor the Tilt 2 Pro... because of the keyboard
http://www.infosyncworld.com/review...Tilt+2&name2=&name3=&name4=HTC+HD2+(T-Mobile)
Read this thread then decide....tilt 2 has 3g the HD2 uses edge..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684204

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