I'm actually a little embarrassed to even have to ask this question, I'm also pretty sure I know the answer but better safe than sorry. Can anyone confirm that the Tmobile version of the TP2 is able to access the ATT 3G network? I'm 99% sure it will but that weird Tmob band makes me nervous, any input would be appreciated.
No, it will not. However the ATT version shouldn't be too far behind the Tmo launch so don't worry too much
no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
aaronsmckee said:
no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
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Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 850/1900 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
One of the images advertising it does state all those bands, but does not differentiate which are for gsm and which for 3G (which can be misleading and confusing, ergo the clarification by jim_0068 ^). Though if they share the 2100 I have no idea whether you can get limited functionality or if you HAVE to have both of them. *shrugs*
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Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 1900/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
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actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
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Please show me where you found this data?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537517
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4144863&postcount=1
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850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands
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As far as I'm aware:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS:1700/2100
And therein lies the problem... While it supports all the bands that would be required, only a small subset actually apply to a 3G connection/signal...
Minimally, that would be the specs for it to work on T-Mobile, and quad-band GSM is just standard on 99% of phones these days...
baymon said:
actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
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You're correct and i edited my post it is 850/1900 for ATT US 3G
I gaurantee you that the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 will not work on ATT's 3G Network At All... the frequencies for ATT will only support the 2G Network and therefore only phone calls and text messaging will work.
let's not go that far, let's not forget gprs (same speed as dial-up) and more importantly EDGE (for some that's more than enough).
when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
hppyfnbll said:
when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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hmm, now I think the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 works on ATT's 3G Network.
It should also work worldwide too.
oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
solsearch said:
oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
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hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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I think those numbers are for software only, in fact you probably don't have the hardware to support the frequencies of the wrong carrier.
seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
solsearch said:
seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
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My Xperia X1a shows UMTS (900) even when I check the settings... IN FACT only the X1i supports
It's very likely that the numbers you are seeing are actually all of the frequencies that are "summed up" and therefore the TP2 for T-mobile does not have the actual hardware.
poetryrocksalot said:
hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
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Those options have been around with the custom ROMs, I have that too on my Fuze, if your hardware doesn't support it then it'll just be an eye candy.
Bottom line is this, if you want to utilize AT&T's 3G, then you'll need to wait for AT&T's Fortress because you need the 850 and 1900 band (UMTS band II). If you want to use T-mobile's 3G you still need a TP2 that has the 1700 and 2100 band (UMTS band IV), and no you cannot use european TP2 to access US T-mobile's 3G band because european's (and asia's) 3G utilizes UMTS band I, they are on a slightly different frequencies even though they are categorized both on 2100Mhz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I am having a question about the Radio.
I saw the radio thread. There are a quad bands radio. Now, My phone doesn't have UMTS 850 (no 3G support at North America no 3G Icon on the top of status bar). If I flash the quad bands radio, should I get the UMTS 850 3G support?
The short answer is no. The Euro/Asian Diamonds that came out were tri-band gsm and Euro/Asia 3g support. Later an update was released to make them quad band gsm. This was possible because the actual hardware was quad band, it was just locked down. The 3g chip is not triband, it is different in the different diamond models (NAM vs euro/Asian). So while you can make any diamond quad band gsm (if it wasn't to start with), you can not expand the 3g freq because the chip is not in your phone.
Thanks.. I see. Hardware !!!!
I.e. the T-mobile USA version is 1700/2100MHz for UMTS, the Wiki shows international versions seeming to be 900/2100MHz, will AT&T be 850/1900MHz and lose the 2100MHz UMTS band? or is it possible for the Rhodium radio to do tri-band UMTS (e.g. 850/1900/2100MHz)?
Sure looks like GREAT upgrade from the Tilt/TyTNII - but I really want tri-band UMTS to get full AT&T 3G support *and* Japan functionality.
Sigh.
Richard
I'm sure it will retain 2100MHz, the last 3 generations have.
rsolomon said:
I.e. the T-mobile USA version is 1700/2100MHz for UMTS, the Wiki shows international versions seeming to be 900/2100MHz, will AT&T be 850/1900MHz and lose the 2100MHz UMTS band? or is it possible for the Rhodium radio to do tri-band UMTS (e.g. 850/1900/2100MHz)?
Sure looks like GREAT upgrade from the Tilt/TyTNII - but I really want tri-band UMTS to get full AT&T 3G support *and* Japan functionality.
Sigh.
Richard
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The ATT version better be triple band 850/1900/2100MHz on the 3G band; or otherwise a lot of international customers are going to pass on this upgrade and either retain their ATT Tilt, or switch to the Iphone that DOES support all 3 frequencies. For me a dual band ATT would translate into a NO GO. As simple as that.
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The ATT version better be triple band 850/1900/2100MHz on the 3G band; or otherwise a lot of international customers are going to pass on this upgrade and either retain their ATT Tilt, or switch to the Iphone that DOES support all 3 frequencies. For me a dual band ATT would translate into a NO GO. As simple as that.
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I'm right there with you, but not seeing any other tri-band radio versions doesn't bode well IMNSHO....and I seem to recall that AT&T has had several other non-tri-band UMTS phones.
Richard
According to Verizons web site:
"Global connectivity to allow customers to access e-mail and data in more than 180 destinations and to use the phone for voice calling in more than 220 destinations (GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz WCDMA/HSPA 2100 MHz) "
At&t Fuze, and I assume TP2:
GSM/GPRS/EDGEGSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/900 MHz)
3GUMTS/HSDPA (850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
Since they have the same frequencies, would you be able to unlock the Verizon to work on the AT&T?
It will work on gsm only, no 3g
As Romeo said just GSM. WCDMA and UMTS might share frequencies but it's different 3G technologies which is why you'll only get GSM.
I was wondering the same thing.. hate a few things about my Tmobile version.. brown? Come on, brown???
And i think its stupid that the Sprint and VZW versions have the 3.5 mm jack, not Tmobile/AT&T. Another reason i'm tempted to get the VZW Version.
The Verizon Global phones, like the Touch Pro 2 and Ozone, while having the ability to do 850 and 1900 GSM ARE NOT approved by the FCC to do so in the US. So the GSM on those is strictly for world travel.
th1rt3en said:
I was wondering the same thing.. hate a few things about my Tmobile version.. brown? Come on, brown???
And i think its stupid that the Sprint and VZW versions have the 3.5 mm jack, not Tmobile/AT&T. Another reason i'm tempted to get the VZW Version.
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I didn't think I'd like the color at first, but I actually think it's pretty classy, a bronze gold look. I could care less about the 3.5 MM jack, that's what bluetooth is for, and besides, the adapter isn't that big of a deal on the rare times I might use a wired headset, at least not for me.
Hi,
Sorry if this sounds ...well, dumb, but w/r/t rooting/ROMs on the LU-6200, are any of the progs, ROMs, advice, etc on this board compatible/does it work with the Korean version of this device? Is there a difference btwn. the Korean and "non-Korean" version of this device?
Thanks
I wanna ask the same thing, anybody can help please..
Is this phone GSM-CDMA network capable using a simcard?
perhaps I should clarify. do the difference in hardware, if any, affect rooting and flashing capabilities? My friend's phone is Korean-made; I'd like to know if I could use the apps and info found on this board to root/flash.
Eg. My Samsung Galaxy Player and the one sold in Korean are different enough that flashing a ROM/kernel for one would brick the other.
The question regarding networks: accd to this site- http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_lte_lu6200-4188.php
the Korean version for LG U+
Network
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, HSDPA 2100
4G Network LTE 800
the one for SK looks like it doesn't have CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
alljokingaside said:
The question regarding networks: accd to this site- http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_lte_lu6200-4188.php
the Korean version for LG U+
Network
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, HSDPA 2100
4G Network LTE 800
the one for SK looks like it doesn't have CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
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So logically, the LG U+ (LG U6200) can be use either with GSM-HSDPA or CDMA-EVDO simcards, am I correct? (I'm planning to buy this device)
comparison with LG Spectrum LTE http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4188&idPhone2=4377
Per Wikipedia, the HSDPA 2100 3G freq. should be compatible with T-Mobile. The 4G possibly with Sprint.
Since I'm basing this off of the Wiki and GSM pages and I'm slightly out of my depth, I can't say for certain tho.