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HTC Tytn Acting as a Wifi Adapter

Hello All,
I would like to connect my laptop and my HTC Tytn using the USB Cable and then use the HTC Wifi Adapter to connect my laptop to a hot spot?
Is that possible?
Thanks in advance!

I *think* this is possible but I honestly have no idea as I have never tried it, it is only an idea.
Here is how you would do it (in theory):
1) Connect phone to wifi spot.
2) Turn on Internet Connection Sharing on the phone, selecting USB mode
3) Connect laptop to phone with USB cable.
If all goes well you will have access. I have only done this though with a regular Edge/3G connection, never with a wifi connection, so I can't be sure it will work like that.
Your other answer is to just buy a wireless card for your laptop, they're not that expensive and will be faster wifi then what the Hermes has.

Nope, does not work with the standard internetsharing app.
And as far as i know there is no existing app. that can share the wifi. If there is, i like to know too!

I believe you can but you have to do a registry change that for internet sharing app that changes the input from the cellular modem to the wifi card.

sprice82 said:
I believe you can but you have to do a registry change that for internet sharing app that changes the input from the cellular modem to the wifi card.
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Doesn't work that way - it's rigged to share the 3G/GPRS via wifi, not the other way around.

Have a read through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360 it mentions a few different combinations.

Thank you all guys!

gregnash said:
Have a read through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360 it mentions a few different combinations.
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No, that is about creating a wifi-acces point of your WM-device. The question here was to create a wifi-adapter.
But i searched a lot of threads about this, and this confusion is everywhere.

Yes, this is about creating a AP...i'm going to keep looking....
Thanks!

N!co said:
No, that is about creating a wifi-acces point of your WM-device. The question here was to create a wifi-adapter.
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Correct, but a few pages into that thread people ask about different combinations of public/private interface, and the current known possibilities and limitations are discussed.

gregnash said:
Correct, but a few pages into that thread people ask about different combinations of public/private interface, and the current known possibilities and limitations are discussed.
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im trying to do this at the moment too, getting the computer to notice the usb connection as a network card or modem is going to be the trick i think.
i should just spend the $30 and get a wifi dongle from ebay.

Yes st3v3 but that would be easy... LoL

dash as a usb modem?

I've searched for any posts on using the dash as a modem but all that comes up is to use it via bluetooth...or to use wmwifirouter....is there any way to use a usb to connect my dash to a laptop and get internet?

yes. try a search for internet sharing...its on this forum somewhere
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385825&highlight=internet+sharing
try that

gixxum said:
yes. try a search for internet sharing...its on this forum somewhere
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385825&highlight=internet+sharing
try that
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What's the difference between Internet Sharing and Modem Link apps? I always use Internet Sharing, but they look like they do the same thing. Just wondering.......

showaco said:
What's the difference between Internet Sharing and Modem Link apps? I always use Internet Sharing, but they look like they do the same thing. Just wondering.......
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one you plug the phone via usb into the computer and use it as a modem, and the other (i assume you mean wifi router or similar apps) is wireless..either way the pc uses the phone as a gateway and uses whatever connection (edge/wifi etc) the phone is connected to.

gixxum said:
one you plug the phone via usb into the computer and use it as a modem, and the other (i assume you mean wifi router or similar apps) is wireless..either way the pc uses the phone as a gateway and uses whatever connection (edge/wifi etc) the phone is connected to.
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No, in my rom I have the Internet Sharing app, and then I have Modem Link app, both have usb setting and look almost identical.. The Modem Link app may just be a samsung version of Internet Sharing. Oh well, just thought I would ask.

showaco said:
No, in my rom I have the Internet Sharing app, and then I have Modem Link app, both have usb setting and look almost identical.. The Modem Link app may just be a samsung version of Internet Sharing. Oh well, just thought I would ask.
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hm...maybe the modem link is for dial up service?

how to configure hermes with wm 6.1 as a wireless ap

I am using a custom wm 6.1 on my Hermes.
It also has internet sharing on wireless interface feature.
But how can I configure the Hermes as a wireless ap that would enable connection to itself ?
When I create a new wireless ssid with infrastructure (not ad hoc) settings, it is not enabled (because it can't find that ssid)

any ideas ?
shall I need a 3rd party software for this ?

Have you tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047

zocster said:
Have you tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047
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Thanks but it says :
"ICS Control is a GUI front-end for Internet Connection Sharing, a component of Microsoft Windows Mobile. It can be configured to do a variety of things including sharing your cellular internet connection over an adhoc WiFi network."
So it des not support infrasttructure mode.

Pardon me i misunderstood you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357152

wmwifirouter is a nice application but it also is limited with ad-hoc networks.
at least that's what I understand when I installed it.
is there an application that would work on infrastructure wireless mode ?

You will need:
Insulated pockets to stop your leg burning
10 batteries to get through the day.

patp said:
You will need:
Insulated pockets to stop your leg burning
10 batteries to get through the day.
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good point
anyway, I would be happy if I could at least do it for 15-20 minutes when I need it. Not whole day

I guess we are out of ideas.
So can we say it is impossible ?
I also wrote to WMWifiRouter Support. Their reply is like "we are working on it but it is not likely to support infrastructure any time soon"

I just wanted to check again. in case, anyone has any other suggestions...

I found this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360

zocster said:
I found this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360
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unfortunately , it is again describing "ad-hoc" mode use.
I need infrastructure mode.

mrmrmrmr said:
unfortunately , it is again describing "ad-hoc" mode use.
I need infrastructure mode.
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Correct me if I am wrong I don't think the driver supports it.

zocster said:
Correct me if I am wrong I don't think the driver supports it.
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I believe "nothing is impossible" ; it's just that there is no coder to write the code.

Desire to use PC's internet

Is there anyway I can have my desire use my PC's internet when it is connected via usb?
At this stage I dont have wifi at work and cant use that method.
Essentially I want to reverse the direction of tethering when the phone is connected to my computer.
Thanks, Dean

Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.

That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean

dwphoto said:
That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean
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Yes it's extremely annoying. I had this on my HD and HD2, but i really don't know why HTC could not incorporate this with the Desire. Afterall, it's a desirable (excuse pun) feature.

it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.

MasDroid said:
Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.
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maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
pina_ said:
it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.
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it has everything to do with your phone. If the phone has no interface for it, it won't work.
Can't say whether it works or not, just saying that it does not depend solely on your computer

ziao said:
maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
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I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!

rackspace said:
I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!
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odd, because i use it nearly everyday

So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks

dwphoto said:
So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks
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If your computer has a wifi card (laptops usually do, desktops don't) you can create a local network and connect your desire to it.
No idea if it's possible over a wire

You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.

neur0x said:
You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.
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Ahh that is handy!
Thanks for the tip

I created an adhoc network following this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx
The host laptop itself can see the adhoc network, but desire cannot.
Any ideas?

Maybe I'm wrong but AFAIK Desire can't 'see' ad-hoc networks, only access points. You can get internet from PC, but only using Connectify under Windows 7 or by using advanced magic under Linux.
Am I right or something has changed lately?
BTW: does anybody share internet from Linux? Any suggestions?

As far as i know, you can only see an ad-hoc network if you have the desire rooted and change some files somewhere (can't remember which ones...), either way the next best thing is to use some kind of software that creates an Wifi Access Point.

I don't get it: why would you want to connect to the internet via your PC instead of directly connecting to your WiFi router ?

Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?

Or Maybe when your in Work and only have a Lan Setup
and want to access / download things on your phone,
Reverse USB tethering would be AMAZING!!!!!

Flaggie said:
Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?
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Stupid me, just hadn't realized that still not everyone has a WiFi capable router nowadays...

The problem with ad-hoc internet sharing is that your host PC still needs a WiFi connection. You can't use internet through USB. I've tried it yesterday at work (yes, for the Froyo update ), but no succes.
Having a smartphone in a country with high mobile data costs is like having a Ferrari to do your local grocery shopping Fortunately I'll have unlimited mobile internet next week. So I can finally use my Desire as intended.

[Q] Reverse tethering

Heya all,
can anyone tell me if it's possible to reverse tether to WP7?
Alex

Do you mean make an AP with the phone ?

mwako said:
Do you mean make an AP with the phone ?
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Nope, I mean to provide the phone with wired internet access via your computer

GenkaiMade said:
Nope, I mean to provide the phone with wired internet access via your computer
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Kinda wondering why you need it... Wireless N not good enough ? ?

i'm pretty sure if you have it wired to your PC, it automatically uses your computer's data connection. i can't test this at work, but if you want to test it, just turn off wifi and data connection, connect it to the PC, and try and browse the net.

The Gate Keeper said:
i'm pretty sure if you have it wired to your PC, it automatically uses your computer's data connection. i can't test this at work, but if you want to test it, just turn off wifi and data connection, connect it to the PC, and try and browse the net.
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Yup. Nice one, Data Off, WIFI off. Still getting pages on USB, Unconnect USB and no pages load untill reconnected on USB.

mwako said:
Yup. Nice one, Data Off, WIFI off. Still getting pages on USB, Unconnect USB and no pages load untill reconnected on USB.
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given this confirmation, you now don't need to turn off data connection on the phone. just connect it and it will automatically use the PC data connection.

The Gate Keeper said:
i'm pretty sure if you have it wired to your PC, it automatically uses your computer's data connection. i can't test this at work, but if you want to test it, just turn off wifi and data connection, connect it to the PC, and try and browse the net.
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HOLY **** I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! This is the single best feature any phone I've ever had has had!!!
Just for the record it's because I'm waiting for a rebel sim to arrive so I can use my T-mobile sim with my Mozart...
THANK YOU!!!

Isn't it funny how something that many people wonder, "why did they build that?" can turn into someone else's "favorite feature"? That's happened to me so many times with gadgets that I've lost count.
I'm curious -- why is it an important feature for you?

Talys said:
Isn't it funny how something that many people wonder, "why did they build that?" can turn into someone else's "favorite feature"? That's happened to me so many times with gadgets that I've lost count.
I'm curious -- why is it an important feature for you?
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Well, I'm constantly in situations where I can't find 3G signal, my internet bundle has run out, or I'm right in front of a computer using the internet, there being no point in me using my data allowance. Thus, this is my new favourite WP7 feature! I actually love Microsoft for it! I was feeling a little bit of sympathy for Android having left it, but all that is gone now

GenkaiMade said:
Well, I'm constantly in situations where I can't find 3G signal, my internet bundle has run out, or I'm right in front of a computer using the internet, there being no point in me using my data allowance. Thus, this is my new favourite WP7 feature! I actually love Microsoft for it! I was feeling a little bit of sympathy for Android having left it, but all that is gone now
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usb reverse networking, hmm, won't that interfer with usb mass storage - or at least slow it down ?
i don't know how folks do it on windows, but with mac it's as simple as turning on adhoc wifi networking, then enable wifi on the phone. we routinely adhoc guests phones so they can save their data plans for being on the road.

GenkaiMade said:
HOLY **** I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! This is the single best feature any phone I've ever had has had!!!
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Erm, Windows Mobile had this feature a good few years back.

at45 said:
Erm, Windows Mobile had this feature a good few years back.
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My phone history is as follows:
A series of black and white nokia phones ---> Sciphone ---> Android ---> WP7

ohgood said:
usb reverse networking, hmm, won't that interfer with usb mass storage - or at least slow it down ?
i don't know how folks do it on windows, but with mac it's as simple as turning on adhoc wifi networking, then enable wifi on the phone. we routinely adhoc guests phones so they can save their data plans for being on the road.
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this is the method that can be used by the rest of the phones. but if you don't have wifi, how is it possible? with previous versions windows mobile could use activesync which also allowed for usb storage mode. with windows phone it doesn't have storage mode but instead has zune integration, but still allows for cable data transfer (or as dubbed in this, reverse tethering).

So theoretically, if the phone can receive a data connection from the computer connected to the internet, then it should be possible for the phone to provide a data connection to the PC. Hopefully someone can figure out the trick and create an app.

The reason this is important to some of us is because we are too far from cell phone towers to get 3g and WiFi is forbidden where we are. In my case I work offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. No WiFi allowed on the boat, and I am in the middle of the ocean so no cell towers. We have satellite internet so I want my PCs internet to go to my phone with the USB cord.

pc as wifi access point.
A windows 7 pc can be turned into a wifi access point using a program call connectify.
Though i cant get i to work