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I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....
Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.
I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....
Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?
Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...
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atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?
Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..
Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time
Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...
8GB micro SD cards are very cheap in Hong Kong - so I don't bother coverting files to mp4 or whatever that's compatible with HD. Instead, I just copy the whole seasons of TV series into HD and use it as PMP (my Archos 605 just died)
Getting Divx Mobile was easy enough (just have to register & download). But I noticed that it takes a while (lag) to skip. Also, when in full screen, it was grainy (pixexls) - not sure this is due to poor quality of original file (downloaded bt)...
Any other suggestions? I don't mind paying - but want the best video quality possible.
p.s. don't worry about battery life either: US$20 for a spare battery and I'm never far from a outlet (HK is just so tiny)
try coreplayer..
Try Coreplayer. its the best video player ive found so far. much faster then divxplayer
coreplayer is best. And htc's graphics are excellent
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coreplayer is best. And htc's graphics are excellent
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Like all the above posts....Coreplayer, the only app you need to view those common video formats.
I have found coreplayer to be very laggy myself....Media Player plays my HD files with no issues at all......I never could understand all the fuss
Coreplayer does not support grafic accelerator of HD. Native video player is better with suitable video properties.
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Coreplayer does not support grafic accelerator of HD. Native video player is better with suitable video properties.
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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I agree...!!!
actually I am a bit confused (very confused I think...)
I downloaded that Encoder - but it seemed like a tool for converting the formats (not a software installed on HTC to play movies) Correct me if I am wrong. So how does that help in anyway?? I am using core now (found a cab version with flash support - so it seemed convenient so far)
I'd like to try Encoder - I have seen many knowledgeable ppl talking about it so I must be missing something here... Why does converting help?? What does "native player is better" mean?? And how does Encoder make use of HTC hardware accelerators if it isnt even installed on HTC????
pls help...
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actually I am a bit confused (very confused I think...)
I downloaded that Encoder - but it seemed like a tool for converting the formats (not a software installed on HTC to play movies) Correct me if I am wrong. So how does that help in anyway?? I am using core now (found a cab version with flash support - so it seemed convenient so far)
I'd like to try Encoder - I have seen many knowledgeable ppl talking about it so I must be missing something here... Why does converting help?? What does "native player is better" mean?? And how does Encoder make use of HTC hardware accelerators if it isnt even installed on HTC????
pls help...
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Latest HTC devices have good video capabilities but 3rd party video players do not support this hardware (yet).
Album or Windows Media Player are meaned by native video player. But they have also some limitations naturally. You should have compatible frame rate and bitrate to get maximum performance.
So, the best way to see good video on Touch HD is to convert any video file with proper settings and watch it by album or Windows Media Player.
now i get it... tried it last night on SD setting. My 350MB file converted into 200MB file and played beautifully on Album.
thx guys for helping me see the light
I am trying to find a good player for .avi, .mpeg4, etc. for my TP2. I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
Thanks!
The WMP supports avi and mp4. And it works!
Hmm, it does not work for me. That is strange.
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I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
Try Core Player. It is amazing... it is also running via network (wifi)
the best video player is coreplayer
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the best video player is coreplayer
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The impression I get from reading these fora is that CorePlayer may be the best but that it's still not actually particularly good, as it is unable to benefit from any of the hardware acceleration provided by the Qualcomm chipset - this being HTC's fault for providing dodgy or non-existent drivers. It seems like this is a major weakness of the TP2.
Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
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Let me get this straight... Your saying it's not HTC's fault because you think they didn't know they were buying chipsets without drivers from Qualcomm. To me it sounds like they cheaped out and screwed consumers.
I highly doubt its a misunderstanding and I'm not afraid to place blame because I'm more than certain HTC knew what they were doing otherwise they wouldn't keep ordering more of the same chipset to produce new phones.
If this were really the case I would assume we would see slightly different hardware or drivers included with CDMA versions since they would have had time to figure this out since everyone else already has.
Gave up Core Player for the Touch phones. It doesn't play movies at all well. Just use the built-in WMP or the HTC album player.
Download the Encoder GUI and just re-encode your movies. Let it run during your bedtime. Easy!
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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Re-encode it using the Encoder GUI. Why fight it?
Don't think there any mobile phones that can play xvid videos at 800x480 smoothly. Even the latest i8000 only supports video playback at up to 720x480.
Even if you get an iPhone, you will still need to convert it to in order for you to watch it.
My solution, either re-encode it, or play a lower resolution xvid (i think i tried it once at 622x288, can't remember and it played ok in core player).
I'd go with Coreplayer too as it has the widest range of codecs available BUT if the bitrate of your clip is too high your phone won't like it whatever player you use (but you probably knew that anyway...)
Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hey, good find! Will give it a try for sure! Cheers!
Core player has some nice features, but benchmarking h264 playback it was somewhat lacking compaired to windows media player mobile....
95% of the time u will want to/have to re-encode to make it smaller or lower the bitrate to something it can play, so codec support shoudnt be a choosing factor...
I get WMPM playing smooth with H264(1300~ bitrate) and ACC audio(stereo at 128 varieable bitrate) at 800x416. which is dame nice quality on the small screen
I'll start a thread on encoding with MeGUI to get you all started
But I can't get full screen on WMP
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Do you know what I'm doing wrong? After not being able to use WMP on my Universal (WM5) because it could not do full screen - I load a movie into WMP on my shiny new Touch Pro 2 and 'full screen' isn't - it has a dirty great big border round it! The video is smaller then the screen but WMP is set to stretch to screen. What gives??
John
Shasarak said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
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wow that done the trick for me, awesome playback imo
I tried the Touch HD encoder and used the advised settings in the thread.
Playback is smooth in HTC Album, but the quality seemed fuzzier than my normal method.
So back I go to:
Coreplayer
Videos encoded using PocketDivXEncoder with the following settings:
HDTV preset
Video quality: 70
Audio quality: maximum
Resize the video so that the video width is 400 pixels, maintaining the aspect ratio.
Can anyone tell me which ROM out there has working h.264 playback other than the original AT&T Tilt 2 ROM? Depending on the encoding program I use, I either get no audio or no video.
I've posted on this a dozen times, but no one has a fix. I've tried the latest Energy ROMs (start menu up top) and the new AT&T ROM, but no go. I've even put a trouble ticket in with HTC (they say it's not a known issue, but are looking into it).
Before you blame my phone or my videos, I've got a Tilt 2 and a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2. Both show the same problem. If I take the very same videos, that don't work on my Tilt 2 with Energy or the latest AT&T ROM, and downgrade to the original ROM, they work! Also, the videos play with
I'm hoping someone knows of a ROM based on a working ROM that I can load on both my AT&T Tilt 2 and T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
You need 3 .dll files from the original Tilt2 ROM to make it work.
qccmquery.dll
QTV.dll
qtv_mp4_decoder.dll
I don't know for sure that you have to have all 3 of the files, but I do know it works if you do have all 3.
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You need 3 .dll files from the original Tilt2 ROM to make it work.
qccmquery.dll
QTV.dll
qtv_mp4_decoder.dll
I don't know for sure that you have to have all 3 of the files, but I do know it works if you do have all 3.
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Where should they be placed (in what folder)?
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I tried placing them in the \Windows folder. I rebooted and now I have audio, but no video. So close, but yet so far. Any other suggestions?
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Where should they be placed (in what folder)?
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I tried placing them in the \Windows folder. I rebooted and now I have audio, but no video. So close, but yet so far. Any other suggestions?
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Yes, they go in the Windows folder. You may have to use Total Comander or something like that in order to actually overwite the ROM files and you will probably have to do a soft reset after placing the files on the device.
Also, I just use the Full screen player to view the videos. I don't use WPM or anything like that, but the other players should work also.
Yup. I used Total Commander and did a Soft Rest. I'm just using the HTC player, and now no video on any of the h.264 videos, but sound. Before I had some with video and no sound and some with sound and no video.
I've looked around and found a few different versions of those files, also some references to htcmdp.dll, so I'll try swapping a couple of them in.
Also, what ROM are you using. I like the Energy ROMs, but I'm not married to them, so if yours works...
It's my own home brew.
All the ROMs that I have used so far, from the original Telstra stock ROM to the my current Energy 21907 ROM all played mp4 (H.264 and AAC) video files correctly. Frame rate may not be ideal depending on the bitrate and file sizes. But at least they play without me having to do anything.
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All the ROMs that I have used so far, from the original Telstra stock ROM to the my current Energy 21907 ROM all played mp4 (H.264 and AAC) video files correctly. Frame rate may not be ideal depending on the bitrate and file sizes. But at least they play without me having to do anything.
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Which ROM specifically? I'll load it today. I'm currently using the August 25th, 21914 Sense 2.5 ROM. I'm not a big fan of the Cookie Home Tab, but if it works, I'll give it a shot.
Also, what player are you using? TCPMP works for the h.264 videos, but really jerky. Windows Mobile and the HTC player used to be perfectly smooth on the h.264 videos, but now no video at all, or at least not in any newer ROM I've tried.
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All the ROMs that I have used so far, from the original Telstra stock ROM to the my current Energy 21907 ROM all played mp4 (H.264 and AAC) video files correctly. Frame rate may not be ideal depending on the bitrate and file sizes. But at least they play without me having to do anything.
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Assuming your signature means Energy Cookie Home Tab 21907, I just did a Task 29 and loaded the latest Energy CHT 21914 from August 28th. I opened Total Commander and clicked on a MP4 file that was h.264 and AAC encoded (which launches HTC Player). Videos from MP4forHD and the Video Encoding GUI have no audio (video plays smooth). Videos from AVS, Nero, and Xilisoft have audio, but no video.
So the search continues...
Why don't you try a mediaplayer alternative like TCPMP ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5685536&postcount=1
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Why don't you try a mediaplayer alternative like TCPMP ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5685536&postcount=1
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I do and have. TCPMP cannot keep up with the frame rates of h.264 files unless you severely reduce the bit rate. I've tested frame rates of 23.97 and 29.97 at bit rates of 500k to 2000k and they don't play smoothly in TCPMP, or CorePlayer (which I've purchased). If you take a look at the Video Encoding GUI http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 it will tell you not to use CorePlayer as it does not support hardware acceleration.
The fun thing is I have a bunch of videos that I converted to h.264 so that my 2 1/2 year old son can watch videos upon request. On my Fuze, everything worked fine. He dropped my Fuze, so AT&T replaced it with a Tilt2. I didn't like the ROM, so I upgraded to an Energy ROM (which are great). Unfortunately, I have not found a ROM other than the original AT&T TilT2 ROM to play h.264 videos. Having to re-encode them is a ridiculous solution.
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Assuming your signature means Energy Cookie Home Tab 21907, I just did a Task 29 and loaded the latest Energy CHT 21914 from August 28th. I opened Total Commander and clicked on a MP4 file that was h.264 and AAC encoded (which launches HTC Player). Videos from MP4forHD and the Video Encoding GUI have no audio (video plays smooth). Videos from AVS, Nero, and Xilisoft have audio, but no video.
So the search continues...
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I simply have the mp4 video at my SD card. The HTC Album recognises that and I can play from there. Again, it depends on the file size and bitrate. I have a 640x480 video with a data bitrate of 1 Mbps and it plays well on TP2. I have other that are 1280x720 and bitrate of 9 Mbps and it would be a few sec per frame. But then you really need a laptop to play that kind of video.
Now I think you need to make sure the video is encoded properly. I use Adobe Media Encoder to encode my videos. The 1280x720 video I refer to above, however was straight from my Sanyo Xacti camcorder as it captures H.264 AAC video directly.
Just one more thing you can try. The TP2 camera can captue H.264 video. (You would need to set the format at the advanced video camera settings there.) Then try playback the capture video. If it doesn't play back that video, then there definitely is something wrong with the ROM you have.
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Just one more thing you can try. The TP2 camera can captue H.264 video. (You would need to set the format at the advanced video camera settings there.) Then try playback the capture video. If it doesn't play back that video, then there definitely is something wrong with the ROM you have.
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How could there be something wrong with just about every ROM I've tried, on two different phones. Also, I've put in a support incident with HTC and they've verified it's an issue. Below is a list of ROMs I've tried.
These ROMs will play h.264 videos made with Video encoding GUI or Mp4ForHD apps here on XDA:
AT&T Stock Tilt2 ROM
Josh's Black 1.8b_Sense_2.5_2012_Norm
These ROMs don't correctly play h.264 videos. When playing video encoded with Video Encoding GUI or Mp4ForHD, there's video, but no sound. When playing videos from AVS, Nero, or Xilisoft, there's audio, but no video:
Jackos_S2_ROM_ManilaRUSH1.6
TP2 WM6.5 ROM (COM2) V45 (Core 21908) OS 2.07 SENSE 2.5_2016 (UPDATE 07-07)
[11Aug10]CORE CELL EVO V3.1 & PRO V31 [23127 & 21911] [Sense 2016]
Energy.RHODIUM.23569.Sense2.1.Jun.02
Energy.RHODIUM.21905.Sense2.1.Jun.02
Energy.RHODIUM.21911.Sense2.1.Jul.14
Energy.RHODIUM.23569.Sense2.1.Jul.14
Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.Aug.04
Energy.RHODIUM.21911.Sense2.5.Aug.04
Energy.RHODIUM.21914.Sense2.5.Aug.25
Energy.RHODIUM.21914.Sense2.1.Aug.18
Energy.RHODIUM.21914.Sense2.5.Cookie.Aug.28
Energy.RHODIUM.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28
Energy.RHODIUM.21914.Sense2.5.Aug.28
I've downloaded a couple videos from the web that do play with video and sound, but there's no rhyme or reason. I can't determine what is different about the one or two that work out of 50 that don't.
Hi,
This is something I too am actually searching for...
I have discovered that agent47's Valkyrie Roms do play, with sound and video, the mp4s that I had encoded for my Touch HD. Link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
Now why they do, and what makes them different, are some extra drivers present, that I would love to know...
Do try them ou and let me know your experience.
And, for those that suggest always to try TCPMP or Core player, these two great softwares do not, however, take advantage of the machine's hardware, unlike Album or Media Player. By using the two latter ones to play the mp4 files, the experience is much more fluid and with correct fps...
Regards,
P.
pdc4 said:
Hi,
This is something I too am actually searching for...
I have discovered that agent47's Valkyrie Roms do play, with sound and video, the mp4s that I had encoded for my Touch HD. Link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
Now why they do, and what makes them different, are some extra drivers present, that I would love to know...
Do try them ou and let me know your experience.
And, for those that suggest always to try TCPMP or Core player, these two great softwares do not, however, take advantage of the machine's hardware, unlike Album or Media Player. By using the two latter ones to play the mp4 files, the experience is much more fluid and with correct fps...
Regards,
P.
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Sorry to say, that after doing Task 29 and loading tp2_firestorm_v7.3.21914-FX that it's actually worse than all the others I've tried. Using the HTC Player, it freezes upon loading the video. Using Media Player, the program loads and as soon as it stops loading, it closes. I'll add it to my list of the non-workings.
Now that is strange...
I have not yet tried the new version 7.3 of the rom, as my previous tryout was with version 7.0.23123-xt, link here http://valkyrie.htc-files.com/downl...restormLEO/v7.0/tp2_firestorm_v7.0.23123XT.7z
With this one, after task 29, I had perfect results, both sound and video, of mp4s encoded with projection's video encoding gui (link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 )...
I wonder if the new rom version has somehow broken the previous mp4 compatibility... and this would not be pleasant at all.
I will have to try the new version, after I finish with the energy rom (so far also not compatible, sound wise...)
In the meantime, do try the previous version mentioned, and let me know if it works for you.
Regards,
P
Just one more thing you may want to try. The way your phone is connected to PC (USB to PC setting):
1. ActiveSync
2. Disk Drive
Try the disk drive option. It won't modify the file as it get copied onto the phone.
pdc4 said:
Now that is strange...
I have not yet tried the new version 7.3 of the rom, as my previous tryout was with version 7.0.23123-xt, link here http://valkyrie.htc-files.com/downl...restormLEO/v7.0/tp2_firestorm_v7.0.23123XT.7z
With this one, after task 29, I had perfect results, both sound and video, of mp4s encoded with projection's video encoding gui (link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 )...
I wonder if the new rom version has somehow broken the previous mp4 compatibility... and this would not be pleasant at all.
I will have to try the new version, after I finish with the energy rom (so far also not compatible, sound wise...)
In the meantime, do try the previous version mentioned, and let me know if it works for you.
Regards,
P
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Okay... I've tried the following Valkyrie ROMS-
tp2_firestorm_v7.0.23123XT
tp2_firestorm_v7.3.21914-FX
tp2_firestorm_v7.3.23134-FX
The 7.0.23123XT version plays h.264 videos that were encoded with MP4ForHD or the Video Encoding GUI just fine. It only plays audio from h.264 videos encoded with AVS, Nero, or Xilisoft.
The two 7.3 versions don't work at all. They crash when trying to load any h.264 video.
At least I've got a few ROMs now that work. I'll try and take a look at the files to see what's different.
bchau said:
Just one more thing you may want to try. The way your phone is connected to PC (USB to PC setting):
1. ActiveSync
2. Disk Drive
Try the disk drive option. It won't modify the file as it get copied onto the phone.
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I either use the Disk Drive mode to transfer videos, or I pop the MicroSD car into an SD adapter and put it right in my laptop. I don't believe there's a setting issue at play as that wouldn't explain why different ROMs work and don't work.
So I was on SuperTube (paid version) trying to play a music video uploaded yesterday.
This specific video had up to 1080p quality, and I decided to stream the 720p version on SuperTube. Five seconds later I received a "Open Video Error!".
After using Keepvid.com to download this specific video, it turns out the video was part of the new wave of WebM encoded videos on YouTube.
To further confirm this issue, I specifically looked for WebM encoded videos on YouTube, sent it to my WP7, and copy-pasted the video name into SuperTube to try. Same error.
We all know that Microsoft is not going to support the codec, and SuperTube depends on Zune to play the .MP4 contained videos from YouTube.
Also, in some cases, the native YouTube app is unable to play the videos.
It is important to note that YouTube still encodes 360p videos using H264 and not WebM, as I was able to play those fine on SuperTube. LazyTube tends to play most of my test cases, with exceptions.
So, here I am presenting this potential problem (as YouTube will completely more to WebM soon) with WP7 YouTube and Video codec problem. What are you thoughts?
Any Ideas?
PS: To further confirm that 360p videos work and 720p videos do not, I downloaded the videos and uploaded them to my phone directly through Explorer (using the registry hack to make the device appear) and the 360p worked, while the 720p did not.
I've read and heard from my friends reports that there are problems with HD videos on Android devices, too. Whether this is due to WebM or not I don't know.
The whole world must bend over backwards now because Google doesn't like paying. No single SoC supports decoding WebM at this time, so it's not even up to Microsoft. Whether we will see hardware support for this new codec is questionable because it's not at all clear whether it's clean in terms of IP and patents. With open source stuff, the one who implements something is sued, not the one who wrote stuff.
Serriously I dont see the need for Google to push WebM, H.264 is well supported, it's funny that google make a webM plugin for IE9 and MS make a H.264 plugin for chrome
DMAND said:
Serriously I dont see the need for Google to push WebM, H.264 is well supported, it's funny that google make a webM plugin for IE9 and MS make a H.264 plugin for chrome
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native app on iphone is "missing" a lot of videos, many cant be played on mobile devices anymore. Also the copyrighted stuff or blocked in your country is getting worse. Its time for a good alternative to come up and all just switch away from youtube, unfortunately there is none and its a great service.
vangrieg said:
I've read and heard from my friends reports that there are problems with HD videos on Android devices, too. Whether this is due to WebM or not I don't know.
The whole world must bend over backwards now because Google doesn't like paying. No single SoC supports decoding WebM at this time, so it's not even up to Microsoft. Whether we will see hardware support for this new codec is questionable because it's not at all clear whether it's clean in terms of IP and patents. With open source stuff, the one who implements something is sued, not the one who wrote stuff.
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Only Andorid 2.3.2 (or 3) and above support WebM. Lower versions do not.
You can decode in software, but LOL on a mobile device that is kind of laughable. Say bye bye to your battery as this overworks your processor...
Marvin_S said:
native app on iphone is "missing" a lot of videos, many cant be played on mobile devices anymore. Also the copyrighted stuff or blocked in your country is getting worse. Its time for a good alternative to come up and all just switch away from youtube, unfortunately there is none and its a great service.
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don't blame youtube for these issues. blame coyrights, drm, and people that think nothing should ever be redistributed. youtube is following what the lawyers say they have to.
ohgood said:
don't blame youtube for these issues. blame coyrights, drm, and people that think nothing should ever be redistributed. youtube is following what the lawyers say they have to.
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I understand why. Its just stupid it has never been like this but as of recently there are a ton of videos being blocked. Even though the rights to broadcast have been always there and now they are just gone. So yeah no wonder people blame youtube if the exact same vids could always be watched trough officials channels then all of a sudden not supported in your country.
N8ter said:
Only Andorid 2.3.2 (or 3) and above support WebM. Lower versions do not.
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Android 2.3.3 cannot add hardware support for a new codec if it's missing in the device SoC. Or can it?
I can't imagine hardware support for WebM appearing overnight unless it's the same thing as MPEG4 Part 10 (which is what MPEG-LA will be happy to sue the hell out of everyone over).
^ wow
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-it-webm-support/&category=classic&postPage=1
vetvito said:
^ wow
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Wow what exactly? Is it true hardware support or software decoding?
It's probably software, but does it matter? Future SoCs may (most likely will) start supporting it in hardware because Google has the means to force feed it down consumers' throats. Once they finish transcoding all the YouTube content and switch to an HTML5 interface by default this can severely limit non-Android devices, especially if you don't want a device with Adobe Flash, since the site will stream WebM to your device.
Unless they keep H.264 versions as well, in which case I don't care.
But I don't like the way they are trying to force feed an inferior media codec down everyone's throats...
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It's probably software, but does it matter?
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You answered your question yourself a few posts ago:
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You can decode in software, but LOL on a mobile device that is kind of laughable. Say bye bye to your battery as this overworks your processor...
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Future SoCs may (most likely will) start supporting it in hardware because Google has the means to force feed it down consumers' throats. Once they finish transcoding all the YouTube content and switch to an HTML5 interface by default this can severely limit non-Android devices, especially if you don't want a device with Adobe Flash, since the site will stream WebM to your device.
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I'm not at all sure about it. Judging by how they are treating their own Android customers, the majority of whom aren't using 2.3.whatever with WebM support, they just don't give a damn. It'll be up to OEMs and chip makers. And those guys may get in trouble with WebM because of possible lawsuits, not Google. So it'll most probably end with software decoding as supplied by Google (although even that won't save them because Google doesn't protect their OEMs in patent and other IP issues).
But that's just my guess.
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But I don't like the way they are trying to force feed an inferior media codec down everyone's throats...
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Exactly. I find this uber annoying. But not at all surprising.
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Wow what exactly? Is it true hardware support or software decoding?
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read the article, you'll understand the wow. Google sux
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You answered your question yourself a few posts ago:
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I meant does it matter in the grand scheme of things. Android phone users have gotten so used to poor battery life that most of them don't care. They'll just not use their phone for a couple days to post standby times on a forum and be happy.
What the underlying "what's it matter" meant (quite vaguely, I admit) what... Does it matter if it's software or hardware? Google's point is to promote their own codec by using their YouTube muscle, and they're going to make sure their own Browsers and Mobile platform are there first, which could potentially give consumers a reason to pick an Android phone over a competitor's...
So, does it matter if it's software or hardware if they are still accomplishing their goals (pushing WebM via YouTube down our throats and making sure Android is the first mobile OS to support it)?
Can you give a URL of a video that is not available? I think it's a bug in the software. YouTube is NOT going to encode videos in WebM exclusively. All videos in every resolution should be available in H264 and WebM.
This might change as soon as Adobe release a WebM capable Flash Player (10.4 maybe)...
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Can you give a URL of a video that is not available? I think it's a bug in the software. YouTube is NOT going to encode videos in WebM exclusively. All videos in every resolution should be available in H264 and WebM.
This might change as soon as Adobe release a WebM capable Flash Player (10.4 maybe)...
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I can't give you a URL, but as of two days ago, my colleagues with DHD couldn't view a single newly uploaded HD video on YouTube with the built in client.
This may be because of a different problem though, that WebM is at fault is just my guess.
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Can you give a URL of a video that is not available? I think it's a bug in the software. YouTube is NOT going to encode videos in WebM exclusively. All videos in every resolution should be available in H264 and WebM.
This might change as soon as Adobe release a WebM capable Flash Player (10.4 maybe)...
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YouTube is encoding all new videos in WebM, and transcoding a lot of others. I think most HD videos are being encoded to WebM.
Who are are you to say what they should be available as? You don't own YouTube, Google does...
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YouTube is encoding all new videos in WebM, and transcoding a lot of others. I think most HD videos are being encoded to WebM.
Who are are you to say what they should be available as? You don't own YouTube, Google does...
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I think he meant they should be, as in "if you check, you should find that they are encoded as both" not that he was stating what policies Google should be using. Whether he is right concerning the availability of both formats, I can't say.
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I have just confirmed this further with many more recent HD updates (from 25th of April and onwards), as well as a couple of my own videos uploaded.
The 720p and 1080p versions ARE being encoded in WebM, while the rest of the formats are still in their older forms...
Leave it up to google to fragment the hell out of something.......
Here is what Ive noticed with youtube as of late...
"Vevo" videos(music videos by signed artists that are sponsored or something by Vevo) do not show up when searched for on my ipod touch or my girlfriend's iphone<<<< This is stupid and is recent. Maybe because of the no ads thing on ipod's or iphone...I dont really know. They do however work with fastcode's Supertube app which is great. I dont know how long this will last with Supertube but Im hoping it doesnt change. Somehow fastcode is able to write a workaround with their code I guess. Again I dont know. All the while Microsoft is having some sort of issue with getting a proper youtube app out there for some other dumb reason probably to blame on Google. However Microsoft does allow Supertube to break rules by allowing the download feature to keep going. Again this is weird.
Now Youtube is encoding all hd videos in some new format "WebM" which Im certain will further complicate things on the developer side of things. This is just confusing.
Im not saying Google should allow people to just use their service for free or without any restrictions but I do not like the fact that Google sucks everyone in by leaving everything open at the beginning and then closes it up once they establish dominance in the market subsequently leaving people stranded and with no other choices.