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Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
I have not received mine yet (it should be tomorrow), but I got same experience like yours with my HTC Kaiser.
I put it in my jeans pocket with nothing else, but yeah ... got scratches and the LENS cover is dirty which you cannot clean it.
I could buy the back part where the lens cover reside, but that's 30 euro in cost.
So, now, I bought a "seal" type of pouch for my upcoming HTC Desire
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=Google&cat=Cases&skuno=82280
I already received it, it is soft leather and look nice. It should cover the whole device with slide open on top.
And I will buy screen protector later from martinshields.com (bit expensive, but it never let me down on my HTC Kaiser, Touch Dual, and Nintendo DSi). Strong, clear, thin and NO BUBBLES!
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Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
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leoni1980 said:
Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
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Similar situation with me - a few tiny scratches on the screen. Have to look hard to see them, but they're there. Waiting on screen protectors.
Just in case your getting confused... The screen has a cross hatch set of lines in it... Its part of the multitouch hardware i think. you can only see it in some angles of light. Same with the gridded dots.
Though i did buy a cheap felt pouch to keep it safe untill the PDAir cases come out.
I had a spare screen protector from my Milestone i just cut it to size and used that, far better than not having one at all, even though my old phone the Milestone had gorilla glass which they say you can't scratch i still never trusted it.
put it in a pouch.
Just cos there's no keys, pens etc. in your pocket, does not mean there's no fluff, grit or something else in there that will scratch the screen when it's pressed against your leg. all it takes is a tiny particle of grit or sand to get between the lining of your pocket and the screen and it'll scratch it to buggery!
I put an old Hero screen protector on mine, its covered the main screen portion but not the bezel area, waiting on my official screen protector though!
lets hope zagg release their invisible shield soon. those things are awesome!
I am going to try buy these official screen protectors
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=20776861-6444-496C-B236-423388B27C27
I thought it had the same glass screen as the HD2?
They have uploaded video of someone using keys and knives on an HD2 screen to try and scratch it and have failed...
@leoni1980
You had hd2 if I remember correctly?
I consider buying desire, could you compare overall build quality of this two devices? Also, is call quality in desire better than hd 2?
One more question:
In a phone call, does proximity sensor works like one on hd2 or iphone? Or do you must turn the screen on/off manualy?
Thanks.
hrcro said:
@leoni1980
You had hd2 if I remember correctly?
I consider buying desire, could you compare overall build quality of this two devices? Also, is call quality in desire better than hd 2?
One more question:
In a phone call, does proximity sensor works like one on hd2 or iphone? Or do you must turn the screen on/off manualy?
Thanks.
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The screen turns off when you lift the phone to your face in a call, and turns back on when you bring it down.
The build quality is as good I think, although this opinion is somewhat tainted by the fact that under the same circumstances my HD2 never developed a single scratch or scuff. I have a few tiny nicks on my camera lens already which is incredibly annoying since it is literally just 11 days of usage....one would expect a phone kept purely in a trouser pocket on its own to endure longer than a week and a half before developing marks.....
I'm really quite put off by this. When I get my replacement it'll be going straight in a gel case, though lord knows what I will use to protect the lens (which is clearly very susceptible to damage).
This is why I always say: use a pouch and use a screen protector! And e.g. when placing the phone on a hard surface, use the pouch as protection (read: put the phone on top of the pouch or keep the phone inside the pouch).
Mobiles are becoming disposable objects more and more. People use them for two years and then get rid of them (in the garbage bin). So not all people care about scratches etc. They will probably think the pouch and screen protector is nonsense.
Btw, getting a scratch doesn't nescecarily say something about the quality of the phone. In my experience getting a scratch on the phone is usually just bad luck. E.g. I had my Omnia for half a year, no scratches whatsoever. And my Hero was scratched the first week (even when I am so carefull with my stuff). Build quality of the Hero is much better than the Omnia imho (Omnia is all plastic, and chrome paint etc usually damages quickly). It only takes one silly moment to get a scratch unfortunately.
I always sell my phones after some time, every scratch is less value!
Guys Guys...It's a phone, scratch the baby up a bit let her live a little, all you are doing is keeping it tidy for the next owner, my phones are f**ked by the time the next all singing handset comes out so it gives me an excuse to buy the next one.
You might get 50 quid less by sending it off to envirofone or whatever but who cares it's only a phone and does not need leather fluffy cases
ronnyuk, you took the words out of my mouth. Spending time opening cases or sliding in and out of a pouch isnt worth it. Get past the first few scratches and then you can enjoy you phone without the worry. No scratches on mine yet though. Somehow I don't think the desire is going to stand up to what my touch pro went through. That was one seriously tough phone. I have dents in my wall from that baby.
RaptorRVL,
Did you specifically buy a pouch for your HTC Desire?
Or is it a used one from your other device?
If possible, let me know which one and where did you buy the pouch.
As I noted above, I got simple and nice soft-leather pouch from Fommy.co.uk, but if your pouch is nicer I will change
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This is why I always say: use a pouch and use a screen protector! And e.g. when placing the phone on a hard surface, use the pouch as protection (read: put the phone on top of the pouch or keep the phone inside the pouch).
Mobiles are becoming disposable objects more and more. People use them for two years and then get rid of them (in the garbage bin). So not all people care about scratches etc. They will probably think the pouch and screen protector is nonsense.
Btw, getting a scratch doesn't nescecarily say something about the quality of the phone. In my experience getting a scratch on the phone is usually just bad luck. E.g. I had my Omnia for half a year, no scratches whatsoever. And my Hero was scratched the first week (even when I am so carefull with my stuff). Build quality of the Hero is much better than the Omnia imho (Omnia is all plastic, and chrome paint etc usually damages quickly). It only takes one silly moment to get a scratch unfortunately.
I always sell my phones after some time, every scratch is less value!
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The Desire screen is certainly alot harder than the Touch HD due, I assume, to the different technologies. Thus I am hoping to get away without a protective screen - which I could never seem to get on the HD perfectly.
I was just wondering though whether, if the worst came to the worst, and my Desire does get scratched can you use a Displex ( http://www.displex.com ) type scratch remover? Worked very well on my early non-touch screen phones but clearly would not on the soft finish of the HD.
Anyone know whether OK on the capacactive Desire screen - still have half a tube left?
gogol said:
RaptorRVL,
Did you specifically buy a pouch for your HTC Desire?
Or is it a used one from your other device?
If possible, let me know which one and where did you buy the pouch.
As I noted above, I got simple and nice soft-leather pouch from Fommy.co.uk, but if your pouch is nicer I will change
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I got this one :
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160415564575&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's super cheap, 4 euros. It's for the nexus but fits the Desire very nicely (same size). Perhaps it could have been a few mm longer, that would have been perfect (little bit more protection at the top). But I guess it will all stretch a bit since its neoprene.
Can take a picture tomorrow with the Desire in if you want.
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I got this one :
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160415564575&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's super cheap, 4 euros. It's for the nexus but fits the Desire very nicely (same size). Perhaps it could have been a few mm longer, that would have been perfect (little bit more protection at the top). But I guess it will all stretch a bit since its neoprene.
Can take a picture tomorrow with the Desire in if you want.
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I'd like to see a pic of it if possible, as I've ordered it too but shipping takes quite a while.
Thanks
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
ckthunda said:
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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well what caused it to get scratch? maybe there were objects that were hitting against it in your pocket(if you do put it in your pocket)
or do you flip the phone over for speakerphone and tend to drag it on the desk around?
i certainly have no scratches on mine and i did drag it a little but none
Huh?
I don't have any scratches whatsoever on my phone. I had this baby from December and the only protection I have my phone is the screen protector. I don't what you have been rubbing against your phone but it must be something rough, as posted above.
I've had my TP2 for months and no scratches here.
the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
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the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
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Well that's what you have the screen protector for! That said.... depending on the quality of your protector it will show more wear quicker. For a time I ran on old tilt without a protector and NO scratches showed up on it at all. Then I put the protector on and bam... after a month.. scratched to hell. Same tile the Tilt 2!
ckthunda said:
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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Annnd yeah I have had my phone since December and not a scratch on the thing. I keep my phone in a holster on my belt and when I'm in my truck it goes into the car holder. I often put my phone face down on tables and what not and no scratches on the front for me.
It's all based on how careful you are with something that has value. Perhaps it's just you and not the phone.
Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
Ive just noticed that different carriers use different materials and finishes on phones to make it more branded. Also I was talking about a sprint TP2 and I went into the reverse logistics and found out it was a refurb so it wasn't as new as I thought.
Thanks for everyones thoughts though.
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Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
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What carrier are you with? I have never seen chrome keys on any touch pro 2 variations.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/ima...om+"HTC+Touch+Pro2+for+Sprint+Review"&popup=1
Sprint Touch Pro 2. And whether its chrome or metallic it sux
I am planning to buy either MT4G or G2, I like the feel of the G2 more but since this is my last month in the US and it will be hard to replace the phone , I am worried about future physical problems. For those who had the G2 for more than a month , does the hinge really cause you any problems with normal usage? like texting , holding the phone , put it in your pocket? browsing the web? Does the screen close with normal usage? Did you notice any problems with building quality ?
nope, i think im one of the only ones that dont.
In my experience the hinge is really only a pain in the ass when you're actually inspecting it and testing it's quality, I mean I don't have a problem with it at all from day to day use. Other than the hinge it's a great phone to have and it would be a shame to let a little imperfection ruin it.
the hinge isnt a problem, its only a problem if YOU make it a problem (yes some do have faulty hinges) but in reality, this phone follows Murphys law and the laws of gravity. or w/e....my phone seems fine.
p.s. AS long as you use the phone in the intended way it was supposed to be used. then you shouldnt have a probem what so ever.
no. the hinge on mine work fine. I barely even open it thanks to swype.
hinge is so problem. if it's not this loose, this phone is ok. and what makes me frustrated is some can get not loose hinge but mine is this loose. it's hard to hold so the display doesnt fall.
holding the phone with keyboard closed is also like shaky.
MassimoM2 said:
hinge is so problem. if it's not this loose, this phone is ok. and what makes me frustrated is some can get not loose hinge but mine is this loose. it's hard to hold so the display doesnt fall.
holding the phone with keyboard closed is also like shaky.
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Even with normal usage? like texting while walking or sitting?
Let me put it this way: I'm a 15 year old kid and I can't hold it with the keyboard open without holding onto the screen as well. So it'd be pretty much impossible for the screen to "fall" down on me.
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raeef said:
I am planning to buy either MT4G or G2, I like the feel of the G2 more but since this is my last month in the US and it will be hard to replace the phone , I am worried about future physical problems. For those who had the G2 for more than a month , does the hinge really cause you any problems with normal usage? like texting , holding the phone , put it in your pocket? browsing the web? Does the screen close with normal usage? Did you notice any problems with building quality ?
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The only down fall of the hinge is when you are in bed trying to txt or do something. But I found a way to cure that. I type with one thumb and the other thumb holds the screen up lol
Or u can just swype.
Other than that I love this phone..its soo powerful and impresive. Good job HTC.
Of you use swype, your qwerty use will be minimal
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never had a problem with the hinge ever.
I have issues with my hinge from time to time, If im holding my phone at a certain angle while using the hardware keyboard the screen somemtimes falls and it is a bit shaky, and for those who say just use swype what's the point of owning the G2 if you don't use the hardware keyboard at all???
The Hinge's poor design doesn't detract much from the overall greatness of this phone. But after holding DOZENS have G2's I'm pretty sure that's how they all are... nobody has a G2 hinge as tight as the G1 hinge, and it' impossible just based on the design.
It is a little loose even when closed if you press in the right spots.... it's not awful but some find it more annoying than others. My girl has a Droid 2 Global, and her sliding mechanism is as tight as a 14 year old Amish girl.... but her phone can't compete with mine on any other level.
sinistersai4d4d said:
The Hinge's poor design doesn't detract much from the overall greatness of this phone. But after holding DOZENS have G2's I'm pretty sure that's how they all are... nobody has a G2 hinge as tight as the G1 hinge, and it' impossible just based on the design.
It is a little loose even when closed if you press in the right spots.... it's not awful but some find it more annoying than others. My girl has a Droid 2 Global, and her sliding mechanism is as tight as a 14 year old Amish girl.... but her phone can't compete with mine on any other level.
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14 year old Amish girl. Aha. WIN!
To be honest, the hinge will never be a problem thanks to swype.
Other than the few times i pull good old qwerty out to type my retardedly long password that contains symbols and letters and numbers, I always use Swype for everyday messages. It's so easy to use and so fast.
And if you do want to use the qwerty keyboard, here's a hint:
Put the inside bottom half of both your index fingers on the part of the phone where the top and the bottom are still connected together after the screen has slid up, and the top part of ur indexes hooked around the phone resting on the back panel. The pressure from the bottom part of your index fingers will keep the screen up.
This is the natural way I held the phone while typing and am surprised at people who complain about the screen sliding down while typing, cuz they would have to hold it pretty retardedly to get the screen to slide down.
I myself don't have a problem with the hinge. Some people might if they use a holster, so just be careful if you holster it. Also my wifes phone actually pops open in her purse which drains the battery sooner. I also had that happen while in my hoody pocket.
I have a simple, if not botched, solution for it though. When you get the phone, the cord and headset have a nice small black rubber band on them. Its the perfect fit for this phone. I just stretch it around bottom over the track pad. Its easy to pull off and holds the phone snugly closed.
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I have yet to have a hinge problem, but I find myself continually changing volumes accidentally.
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...6 weeks and the hinge is still tight.
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my hinge is loose but it is no problem for me even when i type upside down in bed because the base of my index fingers support the screen so i have no problem whatsoever with the phone falling down on me
its been very tight for me. I dont think there is anything to worry about. i dont see anything going wrong with it unless you abuse it severely over time.
Okay here's the deal.. I currently have an HTC Desire, and I recently tried the SGSII.. My desire is a FREAKING TANK! I cant hurt it no matter what I do, including sending it flying across the room more times then I care to admit.. the glass has one tiny light scratch from when it spent a day in my pocket with my keys.. The SGSII on the other hand, I dropped it (rather gently) from my pocket the day I got it, and the case got a huge ugly gouge!
We've all seen the video of the guy taking his keys to the glass, which is what you should be able to do with any smartphone, but how does the actual case housing stand up? anyone got any stories of terrible incidents it survived unblemished?
I am hard on my phones.. I dont deny it, so I want something that will handle a beating and I'm kinda skeptical of Samsung after my experience with the SGSII.
P.S. my alternate is the Amaze
I too had a Desire and I have to say I am very pleased with the build quality of the GN. I can't say I've thrown my brand new phone across the room or even dropped it yet (I'm not the most accident prone) but it seems to be a sturdy piece of kit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5JjPU4Xh0
mikeandjaimie said:
We've all seen the video of the guy taking his keys to the glass, which is what you should be able to do with any smartphone, but how does the actual case housing stand up? anyone got any stories of terrible incidents it survived unblemished?
I am hard on my phones.. I dont deny it, so I want something that will handle a beating and I'm kinda skeptical of Samsung after my experience with the SGSII.
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If you were unimpressed by the build quality/durability of the SGSII casing, not much is going to change with your feelings on the GN. Its built pretty much out of the same materials. You're best off sticking with an extra case if you get it.
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Dropping it on carpet just proves that the screen/internals won't break from a hard fall. I think what OP is referring to in the case of his old SGSII is big gouges or scratches in the casing, which the GN will probably suffer from the same way.
I ordered this for good measure..lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26090122267...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3353wt_1072
Yes I was referring to actually dropping it.. Every other week my desire gets knocked off the living room table, or the like. I don't actively throw it or go out of my way to be rough, but we have an active house, And things happen. I guess I'll have to look into a very slim case, as I usually just toss it in my Jeans front pocket And go.
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I ordered this for good measure..lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26090122267...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3353wt_1072
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Good to know.. but with my luck, having an extra case on hand in case of a disaster would jinx me. Then if I dropped it the screen would probably shatter...lol
Well there was that thread where a guy cracked his screen.
The bit that worried me was when a second guy posted his cracked too. He put it in his pocket as normal, got to work and the screen was cracked :/
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The bit that worried me was when a second guy posted his cracked too. He put it in his pocket as normal, got to work and the screen was cracked :/
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Sounds like BS to me. There had to be something in his pocket putting a lot of pressure on the glass. And he must wear some skin tight jeans for that to happen... or something bashed his phone.
I always put my phones in my jeans pocket. OG Droid, and Nexus S. Always keep that pocket empty but my phone.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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asaqwert said:
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
Itchiee said:
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.