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Two months ... No new Base ROM Build

It is almost 2 months since Kavana sent us 080408. While Rick has given us many refreshes of content since, we are still on the same build of the WM 6.1 OS.
Judging from the frequency of updates for various PPCs and PPC Phones, and the lack of them for Smartphones such as the S620, it must be very difficult to get your hands on a Smartphone ROM.
Is there any likelihood of an update soon ?

Had to be from a Liverpool supporter
What do you want to see in a new build?

beartard said:
Had to be from a Liverpool supporter
What do you want to see in a new build?
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for me, i'd like to see better support of bluetooth via activesync. Since the 6.1 upgrade i've not been able to connect via activesync via bluetooth. And truse me, i've done everything i can think of to get this to work. Tried both toshiba and bluesoleil stack with no luck.

pudgedaddy said:
for me, i'd like to see better support of bluetooth via activesync. Since the 6.1 upgrade i've not been able to connect via activesync via bluetooth. And truse me, i've done everything i can think of to get this to work. Tried both toshiba and bluesoleil stack with no luck.
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Lets me guess, are you using a Dell laptop? I managed to make it work using toshiba stack. The steps are not like the ones floating around on the internet. Let me know if you are interested.

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Lets me guess, are you using a Dell laptop? I managed to make it work using toshiba stack. The steps are not like the ones floating around on the internet. Let me know if you are interested.
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no, im not using a dell laptop, just a bluetooth dongle that uses the toshiba BT stack.... of yes! of course! i'd like these steps. Just pm me or aim me (or yahoo) as not to flood this thread with instructions for this, since its not related to the reason for this thread.

I've got a dongle that I think uses the MS stack. I can sync via bluetooth in Vista 64 no problemo.

beartard said:
What do you want to see in a new build?
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I'd like to see the auto-complete in the To: field in messaging. This is supposed to be a feature of WM 6.1. I had it on my Moto Q9m running WM 6.0 and it is a big time saver.

Kavana is just in a deep sleep thats all lol.

I've tried several ROMs and i just can't imagine how to improve on Kavanas ROM. Everything just works. Great Job.

I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.

RussianSolja said:
I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.
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Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.

IE Streams YouTube like A Charm!
RussianSolja said:
I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.
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I use IE all the time to stream YouTube videos. Go to this website and do a test to see if you can stream video via IE http://mobile.ardcorp.tv, using wifi, if so I will set you up to stream YouTube videos via IE also.........!

You The Man!
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Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.
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I see that you have mastered my picture pixel crystall clear video resoluton quality technology via the codecs pak for the 320X240 Screen(LCD Blue-ray HD)(LOL). You are the man, I know it works like a charm, now tell the other 50,000,000 people that, glad it works for you....!

Excalibur Screen 320X240 LCD QVEGA
With the Excalibur screen the video enhancement is unlimited with the LCD structure, thats why you are getting the super enhance video resolution quality, it accepts a digital signal better than a lot more expense device like the "Tilt"! Now to prove my point go to http://mobile.ardcorp.tv, this company broadcast in a high digital video quality for mobile devices (They Even Call It HDTV). This company offer the highest video resolution resolution quality for the Excalibur and several other devices. That's why I will never ever argue with people that will say, this is the highest video resolution you get for the Excalibur 320X240 screen, not true, that is a false statement as you can see for yourself...............!

Rip Syntaxx said:
Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.
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would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.

Crystal Clear Technology!
RussianSolja said:
would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.
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You will have to get it from one my threads, I will try to find it for you!

Technology said:
You will have to get it from one my threads, I will try to find it for you!
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sounds good once you've found the thred please tell me what to download like i've said i want to have the same exact apps on my phone that you have on your phone to view DVD quality video

Let's keep this thread on-topic.

beartard said:
Let's keep this thread on-topic.
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thank you moderator lol, just messing.

RussianSolja said:
would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.
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Sorry for the delay, Solja! Tech will definitely point you in the right direction as to what to download from his threads. I've personally found TCPMP to be the best grade of quality when viewing streaming video (with the codecs in the thread I mentioned earlier). I didn't think it was possible for video to be as clear (and uninterrupted) on the Excalibur. I was using EDGE, mind you! lol Imagine what kind of quality a Wi-Fi connection would provide!

Youtube uploader : no videos upload

hi folks,
i wonder to know if you guys can still upload videos to your youtube account using the standart youtube uploader located in the video album menu.
every time i choose to upload a vidéo, i get the message that the task has been send to youtube,and then nothing,no more messages and no videos uploaded.
did youtube changed something?
i have my account setting configurate in Settings > Connections > Account manager.
Any clues about what can be wrong?
is there a .cab that update this function?
thxx for helping
best regards

Hi.
I've been playing with this a little, and I've found that my videos are being uploaded, but aren't accessible via the youtube app on the phone. If I go to youtube on my PC, then the newly uploaded vids are available when I log in to my account. But no matter what I do with the youtube app (even doing a search for the video ID, seen in the URL as v=xxxxxx), I cannot find them.
I'd really like to upload a vid and see the difference between captured video, and the same video uploaded and played back via the youtube app, but I can't
At a guess, I'd think that the search engine for the youtube app is different from the one on the actual website, and simply doesn't get refreshed as often.
It's still a FANTASTIC feature, regardless, and one that I'll be using a LOT from now on
John.

Why can't we watch youtube videos in the browser?!

If you go to a website with an embedded youtube video, the video won't show up unless you have flash lite turned on, which is awful quality.
Now afaik on other android phones, and indeed the iphone, if you go to a website with embedded youtube videos they show up in h.264 format, without the need for flash. Why has HTC disabled this? (or am I missing something)

Let me try this again in a while (on YouTube) but I have definitely watched flash vids within the browser many times (not on YouTube that I recall though). Poor quality at best, very grainy.
I haven't tried playing YouTube directly within the browser to date simply because I like it opening in the YouTube app better (I get the option to choose this).
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you're missing something.
most phones get redirected to m.youtube.com
some sites are still using flash 9, which flashlite can play.
if a site is using flash 10, then you're ****ed because flash 10 is only in beta and only on 2.2

It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
You probably have to find a way to remove Flash Lite completely.
Or maybe you wait until there's a Froyo ROM available within a few days/weeks or so and flash this, to get the full Flash 10.1, which should work much better than Flash Lite.

shaundalglish said:
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
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I'm assuming the normal plugin is where it redirects YouTube URLs to the YouTube app? Because that's the most frustrating part about this flaw!

Yes normal is the redirection to the Youtube app.

It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
I would prefer it to load the h.264 video by default, because it's always going to perform better than flash, no matter how hard adobe tries.

YouTube embedded vids are an exception for me in so far as not playing embedded, many other site vids are doing so in decent quality (as relative as that is). Indeed, tricking the browser and YouTube to think it's a Desktop or iPhone accessing it is simple as well as showing the Desktop view, but then, you'll just see a black area where the vid would be with a message by shockwave that "this type of content is not supported". It won't play which is odd for me due to other site vids at higher quality that do play.
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It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
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Doing such a tap provokes the browser to give me the option of either playing the vid using the YouTube app or using HTC Flash app.
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Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.

Suggestion:
Go to www.youtube.com/html5 and signup.
Make sure you're signed in on youtube.com on your mobile.
Try it now.

Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I use Xscope and Dolphin... they don't allow such embedded video through browser viewing on YouTube.
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pascanu said:
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I could, but I don't really want to install another browser just to watch YouTube videos when I happen to come across one.

I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.

Dunbad said:
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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You can on the iPhone, the videos show u exactly where thy are embedded, nd then you tap them and they play.
Its stupid because so many websites use h.264 video now, which android does support, yet we can't watch them.

Not sure I follow.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?

I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.

I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
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The issue here is samac92 wanting YouTube videos to play embedded in the browser like his iPhone did, without using flash, which they don't. I have no issue with the default actions.
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Embedded in the browser? The iPhone can't do that.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.

Embedded in the browser?
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Then it's likely that I misunderstood what he is saying.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
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What exactly changes if using HTML5 in the context of the video itself?
The stock vids the Flash app plays on YouTube are in FLV mostly, right? But when you download those vids, it offers the H.264 MP4 files. Does HTML5 allow the better H.264 MP4 vid file to be played in the YouTube app through streaming?
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How is Youtube support?

Is there an app? Or do you have to use the touch Youtube site?

from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.

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from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.
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I just read on Wikipedia it will run it in a sort of media player app, but they state that Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the way so this could be improved, or hell, there is the possibility updates will bring Youtube apps and better support.

There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.

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There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.
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Chances are that Google are already working on an application for YouTube.

App in Marketplace that plays Youtube over 3g is craptastic, horrible quality over 3g. Seriously over 3g the quality is worse than on a Blackberry. WTF MS?

Microsoft doesn't own YouTube, so I dunno why you're asking them.
And the quality is probably poor because it's playing 240 or 360p version of the videos instead of HQ.
That's why Google needs to release a YouTube App.
Microsoft has more important things to worry about, like, the actual operating system.

The youtube experience on WP7 is amazing.. its the first phone i ever used that didn't require a full fledged app. I sort of like it that m.youtube.com works out of the box and there isn't "an app for that" - with that being said, people are free to use the youtube api and make their own apps and google may do just that. However with m.youtube.com the quality for me is amazing. I don't watch it over 3g since AT&T rapes us with 3g bandwidth costs but over wifi the quality is beautiful. M.youtube.com also works with your login id so you can easily play your favorite and surf the website. It isn't a pretty package, but hell, sometimes its better that the web integration works this well rather than waiting for a required app

Apparently the youtube app adjusts the video settings if not on wifi. Which doesn't make sense since my 3g connection can more than handle youtube....
Maybe contact the developer and see if we can get settings adjustments.
edit: nevermind, it lists microsoft as the developer so I guess maybe an update will help?

Imbedded vieo clips won't play

I've noticed on a few forum based websites when people imbed video clips such as youtube ones, I can't play them.
They either appear as a blank area which does nothing when I click on it or I just get an egg timer come up but the video never loads.
Only happens on my Desire and not on my laptop.

Phones arn't properly built to really play embedded video. Skyfire does play it a lot better than all other browsers but the website also needs to optimize it for phones but they don't. This isn't an issue as such, just something that needs to be addressed.

Thanks very much for the reply.
I noticed yesterday that even when I click on a link to a youtube clip (an address not just an imbedded video link) it seems to simply take me to a main youtube menu screen with a number of clips on it but not the actual clip I was linking to?!!
Anyone any ideas why that might be?

Download Miren Browser from the market en make sure you have flash installed. Then it should work
Then set the user agent to Default browser or Chrome. This way you can also view clips that are disabled for mobile view.