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To be honest...(about roms)

I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.

Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!

tnyynt said:
There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!
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I know how to cook etc...but sorry, dont have time for it. Thats why i always donate to the one which i have the rom from.
But i want to start up the discussion about all of those roms.
But i understand your opinion.

Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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I am getting bored too but bored about all the cooked ROM got problem which hang... And after many ROM, back to original ROM 6.0 version 17xxx (so old) where it's 20755.
I hope i know how to cook later....

Strange, never had any problems with any rom, cooked or not. Maybe an hardware issue?

i am looking for the rom of the roms too,
but i cant find it.
why? the roms have to legal, no cracked software or no legal software from user xyz (because that not legal too, if i used the legal software from xyz).
if you want the rom of the roms than do it like me: learning cooking and using your own legal software. all the kitchens are to strong for me. there is no klick-next-kitchen for people like me. so i used and learned all days a little bit more and more (i worked with pc's since 1985 and now i was a admin of a cc with 700 users) ... and its not easy for me to understand some threads where cooking-users writes " .. and now you can cooking ..."
hmm ... really, i can? four pda's and three years later, i can see a little structure and iam glad to say, i used my own rom with my personal needed software and tweaks.
so, say what is your wishes to your rom? what do you want in your pda?
okokur

yeah, i used to flash every new release, but it has been over a month with the same rom. nothing really new lately. but new builds and blackstone features will be available soon. 1.99 or 2.0 roms should be not far off. hopefully

yea im with Blazeitup, haven't flashed for a while, im kinda waiting for something amazing (namely Android )

I agree with you all look the same i dont realy see a differents.
Maybe can we make a website so we can see what rom has what future's

How can you expect anyone to come up with "something amazing", when you haven't given a clue as to what you want? It's a phone, not a magic wand. If you have a need that has not been fulfilled, perhaps you should explain it instead of waiting for someone to provide you with a digital orgasm?
Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
#1 - UC compliant. The differences between these ROMS are small, and without features to make it easier to setup the unit, its more trouble than its worth. UC seems perfect for this, yet is little used on the Diamond.
#2 Stability. It's Windows. Surely better stability is the key improvement. Tweak away.
#3 Speed. Who cares how fast applications run? You arent crunching numbers on a phone. The UI, on the other hand, you would like to be velvety smooth and easy to use. Tweak away.
#4 UI and finger use improvements. Again, it's Windows. The more help the better.
#5 Put the latest WM kernals and such in. They added them for SOME reason, didn't they?
#6 Dont remove useful apps. Maybe YOU don't use RSS hub, but I do. Sure, take out clearly useless things like Video tours, sample files, and Windows Update that isnt implemented. But not *apps*. OK, maybe Opera, since a newer one is probably coming every three days. And I'd even vote for removing Cyberon VC, because MS Voice Command works much better for me. But please dont strip out Adobe, RSS, blah blah.
#7 Add just a few universal apps. Maybe YOU love Unisofts' WM photo blog pud pulling editor, but is it really a universal ROM item? OK, add Total Commander, and a decent registry editor. And maybe one or two of the good tweaking programs. But take it easy, OK? We can add what we need.
And after this, it will still be very close to the same ROM your phone came with. But what did you expect, a silk purse from a sow's ear? It is still WM, after all. But it's a little better, easier to retweak if you need to again, smooth UI, and no fatal flaws. That's all we really need. Umm, unless someone wants to rewrite ActiveSync? Buehler? Anyone?
My two cents. Thanks a million to all you cookers!

And while I'm here, can someone figure out how to list more than one G*damn appointment on the TF3D screen? This is a business tool. Really, I don't need a 48 point clock!
DrewVS said:
Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
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Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.

F*g up the thread? Are you kidding me?
You said nothing useful, and I tried to make it relevent.

hi
children please stop swearing
from my point of that it will be fantastic create xda dev rom only one with best solution for everything for example
1 group software
2 group drivers
3 system files
4 tweaks
5 graphic
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get best people from forum to be in charge of each group and come out with something better then htc teach htc how to do best rom i know everyone like different roms but each rom have same drivers same system files and almost same graphic just software are different which you can install your self I'm little drank so if I f...ck about I'm sorry

I agree with DrewVS Post #11 this thread
I currently have a cdma (telus) Diamond and am running juicy's 2.5 rom it is bare and stable I add what progs i need. That being said I am trying to find a good tutorial to teach me the basics of cooking for my phone so I can do a rom that has EXACTLY what I want in it. The main problem that I have encountered is that finding any tuts that are remotly understandable for n00bs (to cooking) like me are almost non-existant. I think that a basic rom that tweaks your gps and helps with battery life and removes all propietary bloatware are really all that is needed by any1 and if you can't load a theme or your own proggies then perhaps a PPC is not really for you. I am not trying to start a argument but is there any real need to swear at peeps just because you have a differance of opinion?
Unrealpun
I saw this quote over at ppcgeek and find it very apt to this thread:
"The main diffrences between a smart person and a wise person
-a smart person knows what to say
-a wise person knows whether or not to say it"

Yzord said:
Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.
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He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!

The comment about Blackstone and Raphael features was intriguing. Can you elaborate? I didn't see much explaining that.
dickenz said:
He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!
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this is why i love lite roms with NOTHING built in...
so you get to customize it all by yourself...
until now what i see is people who remove bloatware and add in their own bloatware... so there are tons of roms with really unnecessary applications removed but tons more added on... together with really ugly start up screens that feature somebody else's name, on your phone!
that was until i came across christonge's thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411561
he's made the perfect rom, all you needa do is customize it to your own liking...
so if you've gotten his rom and you don't like it, you've only got yourself to blame...

perfect sample
This tred shows perfectly that there is no ideal ROM. Other people want other thing in rom, some add feature, some light rom, some pure original but tweak... etc..
So this anwer your Q why there is ..

[PROJ][Ongoing..]SE Xperia X1 Panels Porting Project for Touch HD!!! - NO CAB YET!!!

I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q

hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa

works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?

The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.

Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca

Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^

Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!

Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.

multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.

SingaporeAirlines said:
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others

Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.

Acelister said:
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....

cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product

harvsingh said:
Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !

For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^

Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s

I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?

I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.

Acelister said:
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.

harvsingh said:
No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!

Whats the big idea

Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony

All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond

i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.

Blazeitup123 said:
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.

have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol

Blazeitup123 said:
pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.

Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782

Brand new to WM and I need help please

Hi guys,
I have recently just purchased AT&T Tilt 2 and it is my first HTC as well as my first WM phone. Prior to this purchase, I have been using kids phone like sony ericsson walkman and stuff like that. I was wondering, what are some apps that is a MUST HAVE for the rhodium? What apps can I download to make my tilt 2 run more smoothly? What can i do to make it run more smoothly? Also, What is HARD SPL? and what is flashing?
Thanks in advance for all inputs!!
I cant wait till i get my tilt 2, delivery should take about a week.
Cheers

Welcome to the windows party!
How do you know if you need to speed it up if you don't even have it yet! At least experience it first hand...
HardSPL is a tool that allows you to flash ROMs to your phone that AT&T didn't supply (Such as a ROM direct from HTC, or a custom rom written by one of the great people here at XDA). Without HardSPL, the only ROM that you can apply to your Tilt2 would be from AT&T.
Must have apps depend on your interests. Some people might like a certain app while others could care less for it. There is a lot out there, and thankfully there is now the App Store that you can browse apps yourself and see what is out there. Look through different roms as well and see the apps that people include there. And feel free to search to your hearts content, using the site and using google. There is a lot of information out there.
As for just getting started here, visit the WIKI page for the Rhodium over at wiki.xda-developers.com as it is a great getting started site. Also tilt2.blownfuze.org is a nice place to get started as well with your new phone.
Jason

hi myrandex, thank you very much for the reply. I have been obsessed over this phone for a few months now and finally saved enough money to purchase one. So i have been reading a little bit about this phone and noticed a general consensus about it having lags and stuff so thats why i asked about apps to make it more smooth.
Sorry as I am complete new and ignorant to WM ... but is the benefit of flashing ROMs to your phone and what exactly does it do? and what is the difference between flashing ROMs and the ROMs that AT&T supplied?
And as for the apps, i know their are tons of apps out there suited for different people and different needs. But i was wondering if there is some apps that are generally appreciated by rhodium users and are considered a 'must haves' for every rhodium user. I remember reader about some apps that allows you to run your rhodium with lesser lag? Im not too sure.
And again, thank you very much for the inputs!
I am very happy and excited to join the WM community hehe. Just cant wait to get my hands on my tilt 2.
Cheers

I am just like you...
you could start here for the basics....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
gives a lot of info...
then in the ROM development thread.. start with the one for the noobs.. its a sticky..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
try and get as much info from here as possible.. then do your flashing..
good luck..

i too am new to WM, but i would say get use to your phone first before flashing. Once you flash, there might be bugs on the ROM that the chef (person who created the ROM) created and will need updates. Some ROM might clash with some apps and vice versa.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
Awesome site to find apps.
I suggest the following thread for software you should get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973&highlight=facebook&page=1
Hope that helps.

Just got my HTC Tilt 2 and need some help!

Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!

Congrats on getting the device. You'll either love it or hate it...
Re: Flash player
The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
Re: definition of ROM and Radio
Suggest you to read about them in the wiki. ROM is your device's firmware. Radio is the software that controls your cellular reception and GPS.
Skin for TF3D does not equal ROM. Essentially it's a theme. Before installing themes, make sure the theme is made for your version of manila. But if it's a cab file, you can simply uninstall to reverse any changes.
Re: the name of your device
The Tilt2 is the same as HTC Touch Pro2. Rhodium is HTC's code name for this family of devices. The "Tilt" name is just AT&T's branding.

StitchRokcs said:
Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!
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So, I got this phone back in September. This was also my first smartphone. I read and read through all the tutorials here on ROMs, radios, flashing, and registry tweaks. The answers to the majority of your questions are in the FAQs/XDA-Wiki.
HTC YouTube App: I think there's a fix available here on XDA. I think itt has something to do with editting the connection settings. You might want to search for that using the search function of the forum.
ROM (flashing): think of it as like upgrading your PC from XP to Vista or Vista to 7.
TF3D (aka Manila or Sense): a UI (user interface) it's sort of a skin on top of Windows Mobile. Since WM is old and appearance hasn't improved that much, HTC implemented this UI to cover up some flaws of WM.
Radio-ROM: No, that's not the FM Radio. It's a software thing that handles the phone capabilities of the phone (the Tilt2 is a PDA/phone).
(Changing) Themes: There's a lot of themes out there to suit our personalities! Go look! Besides, when you get addicted to flashing, you'll get used to changing things and setting things up over and over again!
Rhodium: (I just completed a Chemistry course; I never knew this was an element on the Periodic Table!) HTC code name of the Touch Pro2 and Tilt2.
Feel free to PM me if you need any help. Like I said, it's also my first smartphone, and I would have to say I learned a lot since I first got it (pretty recently). So I would know what you're experiencing right now.
ohyeahar said:
Re: Flash player
The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
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Yes, Skyfire has full flash support and is very fast because everything goes through SkyfireLab servers. However, video playback quality will be horrible (especially YouTube!).
I just remembered, if you go to m.youtube.com in Opera Mobile Browser and you press on a video, the video will play in the HTC Video Player. So, it's not really playing in the browser; it's like you're downloading the video into your Tilt2.

Ah ok cool. Yea I have skyfire I forgot it did flash but the resolution is a bit fuzzy. Pretty sure I will love it just as soon as I figure out what in the world im doing! Since I love customizing and tweaking things which is the main reason I didnt go with an iPhone that and the full QWERTY keyboard.
I guess I shall read the wiki/faq

Welcome to forums
You had a great gift for Xmas!!
I assume you still have the stock ROM, which I personally think it´s crap...
I would recommend to install a cooked ROM from this great site!
Onalmost any cooked ROM you have the youtube app so you can see videos
Have a deep read on the Rhodium Wiki so you start to familiarize with all that you can do
Good luck and don´t forget to vote!

Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.

StitchRokcs said:
Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.
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LOL I think every ROM here gets rid of that crapware!

Ok good because it keeps me up at night just knowing that its on my phone >
Ok cool just read the Wiki found a list of ROMs that look great > just 2 possible more questions
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?

There is a YouTube app included on the Tilt 2. It is hidden from the Start Menu by default. If you open File Manager and browse to the Windows directory, you will find YouTube there. Once you launch it for the first time, it should also be referenced in the Start Menu, or at least in the "All Programs" list option in the TF3D Programs tab. If not, you can easily COPY the youtube.lnk file from the Windows directory to Windows\Start Meny\Programs and it will show up.
The app is clean and tight, and supports the native controls of the phone (eg, the volume rocker controls volume).

I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?

http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/

StitchRokcs said:
I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?
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1. If you have the .cabs of your apps, save them onto your PC (I have a designated folder for all my cabs, worth over 400MB!). After you flash, you're going to have to re-install them (automatically or manually, depending on if you use Sashimi, Sprite, Seven, or UC_setup [UC is only possible if it is supported by the ROM]).
2. If you flashed, your stock ROM has been overwritten, so if you hard reset, it will flash to the factory defaults that is in the flashed ROM. To go back to stock, you will need to flash back to the stock ROM, which you should find in the link posted in the above post.

Oh ok thanks for all the answers appriciate it I think I might do it this weekend if i get the time.

First off, welcome.
Next before you do ANYTHING read then re-read any and all wiki's and tutorials on the Rhodium. Learn your device inside and out FIRST before attempting to make tweaks or rom changes. If you don't read then re-read, your Christmas present can become a pretty paperweight -aka- bricking your device.
pIE and Skyfire both have Flash capabilities.
The Rhodium IS cpabale of being used as a radio, but you need to install the right cab file...again read.
That being said, a radio usually refers to the part of the phone that receives a signal so you can use it as a phone. Don't mess with THAT radio until you have read and re-read the wiki's and tutorials.
Flashing a rom means to change your operating system to a "cooked" one...one made using a windows mobile base, but specially tweaked by someone here at xda. These cooked roms cannot be flashed without first unlocking your phone. Again READ or you can brick it. Also know that flashing a cooked rom has the potential to void any warranty you have...so back up your stock rom before attempting a rom flash. It is also good to have this back up in the event that you don't like a cooked rom you have installed.
There is a great thread that lists cab files to some really good applications, which will customize your device even more. You can also create your own ringtones, and tweak the device. Again, before any major installations or registry tweaks I strongly urge you to learn all you can first, by reading the wiki's and tutorials.
I have been with xda since my wizard came out a few years ago, and I have seen far too many eager "noobs" brick their devices.
I have only had my rhodium for a month. I am still learning my device. I still have a stock rom because I am not yet comfortable with my knowledge of the Rhodium. The stock rom blows by comparison to the cooked roms, but until I am comfortable with my device, I am happy to remain stock until I learn all I need to.
Once you learn your device, you will need to join Flashers Anonymous...because like most of us here, our phones become really fun toys with pretty much unlimited possiblities...so again, welcome...and read, read, read.