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Bluetooth Upgrade and Bluetooth GPS

I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......

I have not tried it with BT GPS, but looking at what everyone else went through with their Headsets and bonding issues, I can defintiely attest to the fact that the new BT Stack on 1.72WWE works great! I have never had to re-pair my Jabra BT 250 since I paired it the first time two weeks ago. I have also been able to ActiveSync over BT without any problems.

Lucky u guys, when i did the update, i cant active sync through BT

first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.

sheran_g,
Thaks alot, all i was missing was to do the active sync profile, your document helped me.
Thaks again

(some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
Victor said:
I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......
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I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
Victor said:
..... I say yes .....
.... unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
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I can not remember that NO was an option. Do you mean this with the old fashion way???
Ronald

Hi guys
I'm guessing that the 1.7 upgrade is not avalable in Australia??? I cannot find it on the MyXDA website for download? is this update that you are talking about not for Australia/Asia?
Cheers...

sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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You might need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to view the file. You can find the Acrobat Reader here.

dont try dow view the file in IE
Download it first and THEN view it
This works for me

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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With gozilla I can also not download the pdf, but with "save target as" it works.
@sheran_g
BTW Thanx for the post

Re: (some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
ronald2oo2 said:
I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
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Are you sure this isn't TomTom's GPS Driver causing this? TT's GPS Drivers since v2.08 have locked the BT Com Port for exclusive access by TomTom and this prevents other apps from accessing a BT GPS. Solutions are either install v2.07 which was the last driver that did not do this or remove 'the Tomtom~GPS' entry which is the culprit, removing this removes the BT Com Port lock but does not affect the use of TomTom.

@ griffog
Actually I use TomTom ~GPS 3.03 which does not have this problem anymore! Anyhow I still (temporarely) remove the TomTom ~GPS driver and soft-reset when I test with Alturion.
But thanx for the tip.
BTW it does effect the use of TomTom for me! I guess you have a serial (non BT) GPS !?
Ronald

No I use BT GPS unit's exclusively. I'll have to investigate this as I have not heard that v3.03 no longer has this problem!

@griffog
I have this information from the Dutch PocketPC-club TT forum.
It is also consistent with what I see since the TT3.03 upgrade, even while my other GPS application (Alturion) is not working. If I run TT GPS and close it and then start Alturion the Blue LED of the GPS starts flashing fast (sadly I still get "no GPS found" however).
Ronald
:wink: remember you heard it first from me, the Premier GPS Resource :wink:

Excellent news! I've just loaded it up to test and you were right It's such good news that I've posted a front page news item, thanks

Indeed it was very good news.... but therefor also more disappointing for me that I don't get Alturion -my second GPS application- to work (on the eve of my holidays).
If you also use Alturion 5.3.1.4 (you seem in to GPS), can you share your configuration with me?
OS (1.66+?)?, BTHTools or WM serial BT profile? GPS? GPS config in Alturion? and anything else you might consider important.
I really need some new straws to grasp because I have no more ideas about what to try.
Ronald

Sadly Alturion hasn't made it across the channel. I'ce contacted them on numerous occasions for a review copy but never received a reply.

Another cool fix is the fact that you can now be connected through Activesinc using the cradle and at the same time now you can receive MMSs without a problem.
Before the 1.72 upgrade, you just couln't do that. :wink:

Bluetooth Explorer creates PROBLEMS for TomTom!!!

Indeed clicking as much as one time on "Bluetooth Explorer" will cause TomTom not to function properly any more (maps/voices not found etc.).
I have learnt that the hard way!!!
Many members of this forum speculated that the Artemis SD card housing is somehow related to TT's maps to vanish.... NOT TRUE!!!
After a hard reset I have tested that TT was fully functional and I have (intentionally... just to find out) clicked on Bluetooth Explorer and BINGO the TT6.1 maps&voices are GONE!!!
If some of the forum experts would happen to read this and would feel like giving instructions to disable Bluetooth Explorer it would be very helpful.... this will surely avoid SEVERAL hard resets to many people.
I have read that one should go to Settings/Connections then select the FTP tab and uncheck "Enable Bluetooth Explorer" but this is not to be found on my ARTEMIS (P3300)... Let's see if somebody will find a moment to share his/her wisdom with the rookies and shed some lights on this annoying problem.
Cheers!
SiperX

On my Orbit you do the following to disable the Bluetooth Explorer
Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP (tab)
Then select or de-select Bluetooth Explorer.

I appreciate your kind reply Patrick but as you can read in my thread this path (Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP (tab)) is not available in the Artemis/HTC P3300.... Anybody else?

Do you have a comms manager? If so you can access the ftp option of the bluetooth settings from here.
TomTom and Bluetooth explorer both work on my xda orbit.

herghost, what version of TomTom are you running?
I m unable to have Bluetooth Explorer enabled on my Orbit, and get TomTom to find the maps. I am running ver 6.02

perfect, i wasnt able to make tomtom recognize maps on orbit(on universal it works w/o probs) i switched bt expl. off and it works. thx

Guys, there is no doubt. TT (mine is version 6.1) and BT Explorer are NOT going to work together! I am glad to hear that phsnake could get his orbit to resume TT functions.... And (also) I found out that my old rom (the one originally shipped with the P3300) had the path (Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP) to disable BT Explorer (as Patrick_UK explained) ... but the one I am using now does not offer the chance to enable/disable BTE.... any registry master would be kind enough to offer his/her expertise to make this possible? I am not so keen on editing the REG unless I know exactly what has to be done
rom 1.28.0.0 wwe
rom date 11-06-06
radio 02.69.90
protocol 4.1.13.30
ext. rom PDAMobiz.com

SiperX:I'll try today to find reg solution, i cannot promise anything, but i'll do reg export with btexpl. switched on, then with switched off and compare reg.files. hopefully i'll find the right one key.

Phsnake, this sounds like a great idea! Thanks in advance!!! I really hope that you can succeed and give me support in this matter.
By the way where did you find the rom (ROM: DOPOD IPL: 1.25.0001 SPL:1.27.0000 GSM: 2.69.90 OS:1.28.0.0 WWE) you are running now? It sounds lke the right one for my T-Mobile Artemis.

so i compared the regs and diff follows:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BluetoothFolder]
"EnableClient"=dword:00000001
"HDEVICE"=dword:00031380
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\68]
"ClientInfo"=dword:00000000
"Hnd"=dword:00031380
"Key"="Drivers\\BlockDevice\\BTDisk"
"Name"="BTD1:"
i guess all U need 2 do is change "EnableClient" from 1 to 0. try it and let us know. (i can disable it thru bt settings). or remove above posted reg entries.
ROM:its standard dopod shipped(the latest one) should be on wm-gurus.com

Thanks man! The registry editing you suggested worked and the BT Expl. is now OFF and TT finds the maps again!!!
But the option to enable/disable the BT Expl. (via BT settings as you say) is still not available any chance you could send me a screenshot of your reg for both [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BluetoothFolder] and [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\68]?
For your Dopod rom, could you please give me a precise link where I can download it? I could not find it at wm-gurus.com.
Thanks a lot

ftp.wm-gurus.com/Artemis/Shipped_Complete_Updates/ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe
yes i know that wont allow u to switch off btexpl. thru bt control panel.
Here are regentries U requested, but i dont think it'll help. but try.

Thanks again!
BTW, the same file (ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe) was available at XDA too.... I have tested it a few weeks ago it and -being an AU (Australian rom) my sim (Dutch T-Mobile) did not get registered as the operator is apparently not quoted .... strange that you can use it in Scotland.
For regs I will see what I manage to put together and will let you know... Great (and prompt) support was very appreciated...

Hi again,
I have flashed once more the ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe onto my Artemis and I have (FINALLY) noticed that the SIM does register and I am able to use the phone (incoming & outgoing calls).
The only problem is that every time I reboot I get a notification from the "NETWORK WIZARD" which says "your current operator (20416) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor".... Any idea how I can get this nag off my back?
Thanks

try to check \windows\startup

I have deleted (& made a copy for backup) these 5 files:
netwiz.cpl
netwiz.dat
netwiz.exe
netwiz.exe.0404.mui
netwiz.ini
from the Windows folder of my Artemis.
After rebooting the Network Wizard notification does NO LONGER pops up!!!! So I would say "Problem solved", right?
I am glad that -thanks to the recent communications we exchanged- you "inspired" me to give one more try to the Dopod rom and I finally seem to have found what I wanted.
Only one final point: In other roms if you click on the phone signal bar you get the option to turn on/off the flight mode and if you click on the icon on the right of the phone signal bar you culd turn on/off the WiFi... in this rom you get a small (blue) Comm Manager link to follow in order to enable/disable these functions.... did you find any faster ways to activate WiFi or Flight mode? May be they can be added to the voice commands?
Cheers

u can use phonealarm-some skins supports one click wifi, gprs,btooth switch,

I saw phonealarm but I have decided to spend the end of the weekend configuring my newly installed rom (immediately after I will make a Sprite backup) and along the way try to think of something to keep to a minimum the amount of additional SW installed. What do you think if I use "tray launch", would that allow me to make the necessary shortcuts?
By the way (with previous roms) I kept my Artemis overclocked at 240 Mhz and it was pretty stable, did you test any higher frequency on the Dopod rom?

CARPC + HTC how to?

Hi @ all
I'm using a HTC TYTN II and want to connect it to my CARPC (full working normal PC) to make phonecalls read and write SMS.
There are a few progs that work with "normal" mobile phones but not with PPCs.
It should be connectable to USB, so I can charge the accu whyle driving.
I tested a remote controller to control the PPC via touching the CARPCs 7" touchscreen, this works okay. But I need a prog that will give the sound form the PPC to the CARPC and the microphone input from the CARPC to the PPC.
My fav. would be a programm that can fully control the PPCs phone functions and but not required the sms functions.
I think you know what my problem is, and sorry for my bad english I'm from germany.

Man, I just started working on the same project! Although I only want to connect the PC to my in-dash display for simpler things like Slingbox, web browsing and talkstreamlive radio.
I found this in my searching...
http://www.sparus-software.com/Device-Management/Products/EveryWAN-Remote-Support,43/index.html
Hope this helps and keep in touch as you progress and I will too!
Thanks
ITAdmin

Hey man, ive been looking for the same thing! i was using a program called err damn cant remember, but basically it just displayed my phones screen on my liliput and i could dial that way, ill see if i can find it, its been a while since i used it, syncing bt back and forth just became a hassle heh

Workarounds on the new Bluetooth Stack and PTT

Since HTC loves to give the community sleepless nights with duzent of troubleshootings, here a new task.
The TP2 has a Broadcom BT Stack installed... Okay a nice UI in comparison with the default Microsoft one.
BUT: I realy miss the PTT function.
Normaly you can create a shortcut inside the windows dir called SHORT_PTT.lnk or LONG_PTT.lnk for binding tasks to the PTT.
Or when You install MS VC you can access Programs or dial numbers via voice.
It could be that you have to change some values in the registry...
for example HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand string "Path" to "\Programme\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe"
I own a Jabra BT8040 and I realy love it... but without the PTT function it nearly gets useless if i have to pull out the Phone to make a call or look for my upcoming tasks. The reason why i'm buying a BT - Headset is to keep the Phone inside the case.
I now read about a "Maybe" solution I havent tested right now.
read more here
It will be enought if I'm able to bind the Ptt button on my headset to any Programm or Mortscript by holding or tap. (The double Tap feature to redial still works).
I allready called HTC for more Support but the "Hotline Guy" who btw wasn't that able to understand german language doesn't realy understood that the fact is not that MS VC doesn't work correctly but that the PTT function is disabled completly.
So all you junks like me out there let's get a workaround on that.

What's your value of the following registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\btagext.dll"
after my last tryed fix ^^
I now reinstalled MS VC and my new Values are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Programme\Voice Commander\vcbthag.dll"
but both doesn't work

how about uninstall MSVC and try Cyberon VC?
If still not working, make a full backup and put this dll to \Windows and change this in registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Au dioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\OEMAGW.dll"
Soft reset and try again.

cyberon VC
I haven't found Cyberon VC supporting german language yet.
But Cyberon VC doesn't work eighter...
haven't tried the dll yet but but is useless if only english is supported.
Thanks for your replys

Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !

Schmurtz1968 said:
Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !
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No, VC over BT did work on my P525 which use Widcom stack as well. It's probably HTC's engineer NEVER got BT working right

Widcomm Stack
That your BTH worked on your other device doesn't mean that it works on the Touch Pro 2 ... bet your device has an other version of the stack.
Looks like the PTT function is reserved for Broadcom or Widcomm devices only.
Or is totaly out of ordern...
This is a realy BIG MISTAKE from HTC... hope they change this in the next Roms.
I'm still in Mail contact with HTC about this.
Let you know if something changes...

I just got my tp2 today, saw it had a BC stack and I knew they messed something up.
PTT & BT headset is like the only thing I actually need BT wise and they broke it, on a pro phone. I guess every (legal) in-car user will be very disappointed about this, considering this should be a "pro" phone.
I can confirm PTT doesn't work with Cyberion Voice Speed Dial nor MSVC. Also, the usual registry settings HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth are there, but changing them doesn't seem to have any impact as the BC stack should(!) handle them. I had a quick look through the widcomm stack settings in the registry but couldn't find any obvious settings for PTT

Something weird:
If I don´t set up a data connection to my carrier, the link to my bluetooth car kit works perfectly, meaning that I can answer calls and hang up using the button on the steering wheel.
Once I set up a connection, I can only answer and hangup using the buttons on the telephone. I any case I can listen and talk using the car kit.
Any ideas of how to solve this puzzle?
Edit: new finding: If set up a connection but data connection is off, everything works fine. When data connetion is on, then it doesn´t work.
Any Ideas?

Bluetooth Schedule Time

I am wondering if it's possible to schedule to turn Bluetooth on and off at specific times of the day, automatically on our Rhodium
Does anyone know of this is possible?

It's not a freebie, but I use SpbPhoneSuite to provide different "profiles". These can be used to turn on/off bluetooth and can also be configured to activate based on time or other triggers (e.g. during an appointment, when cradled, etc.).
As this is primarily a Today Plugin, I've used "Second Today", which gives me a separate today screen (aside from TouchFlo) which I use to access PhoneSuite and change profile if I need to do it manually.
I had a licence for PhoneSuite from my previous phone, so I didn't care about the cost.
Ed

I found G-Profiler. Free and alot of config.
BUT... The Bluetooth part dont work.
I've found the reg key for BT on the Rodium:
HKLM\system\state\hardware\
bluetooth=8 is the value for off
bluetooth=9 is the value for on
I havn't found the place to put that value in G-Profiler.
But it's possible to call a prg instead. Mortscript to change this reg-value?
Is this the easiest way? I've had this problem in other prg aswell, so i'd like to know.

Thanks for your replt, however I read that HTC switched from the WM BT-stack, to the WidComm BT-stack and SPB Suite will no longer control BT as we would expect.
Any other ideas?
eepyaich said:
It's not a freebie, but I use SpbPhoneSuite to provide different "profiles". These can be used to turn on/off bluetooth and can also be configured to activate based on time or other triggers (e.g. during an appointment, when cradled, etc.).
As this is primarily a Today Plugin, I've used "Second Today", which gives me a separate today screen (aside from TouchFlo) which I use to access PhoneSuite and change profile if I need to do it manually.
I had a licence for PhoneSuite from my previous phone, so I didn't care about the cost.
Ed
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phoneweaver
With SBSH Phoneweaver, Profiling works fine with Bluetooth. Make sure that you use version 1.4.2 (the issue with the BT Stack has been solved in this version)
http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver

mail_e36 said:
Thanks for your replt, however I read that HTC switched from the WM BT-stack, to the WidComm BT-stack and SPB Suite will no longer control BT as we would expect.
Any other ideas?
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Ahhh - I'd seen the Bluetooth option, but not actually tried to use it in anger.
D'oh!
Phoneweaver looks as though it might also do the trick, though...