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Need help with 'Now Playing' music list, unable to delete

I've got a UK Touch Pro 2 from Orange with the official latest Windows 6.1 (!) ROM on it, and transferred about 10 songs from itunes onto it earlier. So far, so good.
I then decided actually I don't wat those songs, so I managed to delete them from the storage card, but they're all still showing up on the 'Now Playing' list along with little exclamation marks as if to say it (obviously) can't find them any more.
Does anyone know how I can clear this list??
Many thanks!

Hi --
I've been spending a lot (read "too much") time with the TF3D audio app recently, loading lots of music, so I have experience with your issue.
Basically, the Now Playing list will not reset until you "make" a new one, i.e. until you choose to play something else and thus have something else "Now Playing." Strange, but that's how it works...
The easiest way is to go into the Library, and choose one of the following that DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OF THE DELETED SONGS: 1) an album; 2) a playlist; or 3) an artist. Then select any song from that category. The music player should now bring you back to the Music tab home screen, and you'll notice that only the songs from that category will be in Now Playing. When you go back into the Library the deleted song listings should now be gone completely.

Thanks jasmithers, a very useful tip - I shall give it a try!

The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.

exmeaguy said:
The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.
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If you mean that the tracks don't show up at all, perhaps they are in a DRM format, e.g. iTunes' .aac, that the music player can't read?
If you mean that the tracks show up but the artist/album/genre ID doesn't show, perhaps the data hasn't been entered into the tracks? On your computer, right-click on one of your music files, choose "Properties," and see if it brings up any info. If not, you can manually enter it (although it's a time-intensive process).

The TF3D music player keeps losing the indexed list of songs by artists, albums, genres. I will go to Winmo media player and scan for songs. The TF3D music player uses the scanned list from media player but it seems to lose the list after some action that I have not identified. Should not be this difficult.

putting MP3's onto my desire

Lucky for me I still mainly buy CD and not downloads
So, how to I copy my CD's via my win7 pc to desire complete with album art work?

I've tried two options.
One is doubleTwist
The problem I have with it is it's slow at times, especially when starting and the initial sync with your device. It also handles tagging for compilation albums very poorly. For example I have a Motown album. Obviously there is no main album artist, and each track has an artist. In iTunes there are separate fields for Album artist and Track artist. doubleTwist can't parse this data and creates an album on your sd card for EACH and every artist it finds. So rather than my folders being organised as on my PC like Artist>Album>tracks, with this Motown album being found in Various Artists>Motown 50>tracks, I ended up with dozens of extra artists each with their own album called Motown 50. So there would be a Stevie Wonder folder...he'd have an album called Motown 50...then there'd be a Marvin Gaye folder and he'd have an album called Motown 50 too. SO as you can imagine the Album view on the media player looked a mess! There's also a complimentary Android app in the market which is actually much better than the built in music player. You also don't have to use the desktop app to use the Android app so give that a spin either way.
Next option is MediaMonkey
Now this is much better. It not only helps you organise your music, allowing for tags that even iTunes doesn't handle, but it will fetch album art for albums you don't have them for...as well as tag info for tracks you haven't tagged. The downside is it's not the most user friendly of apps. I got a few settings wrong and it scattered my music in random locations all over my SD card...it was hell to clean up. It managed to maintain my albums and tagging though. You just have to be very careful with it.

I use MediaMonkey to manage my mp3 library and to sync with my mp3 player. Not the prettiest of programs and sometimes not that intuitive when you first start to use it buit its very powerful - free too unless you want it to rip mp3s for you then you gotta pay for the Gold edition. You can though always use another ripper.
For my Desire though I just copy and paste the files to the SD card. MediaMonkey has already sorted out all the tags and album art for me so those are part of the file copied. I find it's far easier this way.

why can you just do what I do , copy them over in HDD mode , or even take out the Mme card and copy them over , and add a jpg to the folder where the album is .. eg album called wham be in a folder called wham with wham artwork as a small jpg... easy ...

dgattenb said:
why can you just do what I do , copy them over in HDD mode , or even take out the Mme card and copy them over , and add a jpg to the folder where the album is .. eg album called wham be in a folder called wham with wham artwork as a small jpg... easy ...
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works well

On a Win7 PC you have everything you need without installing any other software
Open up Windows Media Player and use that to BURN the CD. This will create a WMA (go for the WMA lossless option if you want the best quality) file.
Windows Media Player will automatically identify the CD, download track and album info and even the album art information if you want.
You can now start creating playlists. These are lists of tracks/albums that you add to.
Now connect your Desire in HDD mode. Media Player will take you through the sync process and allow you to choose which playlists to sync.
Now everytime you connect your Desire to your PC and run Windows Media Player, it will automatically sync your playlists to your device where you can then listen.
For some reason, most people forget about Windows Media player yet for a non iTunes user it is probably the best solution out there because it does the sync part so well

@ mark
works brilliantly

Im going to go against the grain and NOT recommend Media Monkey (although I do love the program) it just isn't reliable for ID3v1 tags.
Use whichever program you want to rip the mp3, there's a host of free software out there on 30 day trial, or limited use, all of which will do the job.
Use Tag Clinic (currently 4.3)
to fix your tags, use only ID3v1 tags, strip out any id3v2 tags (there are two seperate views for the two tag version in Tag Clinic, which is what makes it better and simpler than other software.)
Also only use the id3v1 generes that are available int he dropdown list, this I found as the only way to get reliable genres to stick.
Add jpegs of your album art to each folder, keep the dimensions less than 300px X 300px otherwise some players will not show it, regardless as to whether the file is available. also call the jpg, folder.jpg. (this is where media monkey IS helpful as you can copy an image from google images and paste it into the album art preview window and select 'save a copy to the folder as folder.jpg'
you should be all set, this I've learned after piddling around for hours trying to get MixZing to work with my SD music collection. I've read all the posts and made a few discoveries on my own.
Until ID3v2 tags are recognised (or recognised in parallel with ID3v1 tags) then this is the only way to get your collection showing properly.

Best way to keep my music organized on evo

I was just wondering what the best way to edit music files is before adding them to my evo. I have my music perfectly organized in itunes but when I drag and drop in my sd and look through my phone most songs don't have artwork or artists. I tried editing them in windows media player but that didn't work so what's the best program to organize my music.
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I use MP3Tag for editing that info ( i do it before importing it to iTunes ), but i would think that should still be intact if you have it in iTunes. If you already have the music on the card, you can try installing mp3tag, right click the folder on the SD Card where you have your music, select "MP3Tag" & it will open all the MP3's in that folder for you to edit the meta data.

doubleTwist. 'Nuff said.

I've always been a proponent of proper ID3 tagging. I use Tag&Rename, which is great for batch operations and will even let you embed album art into each individual file. Develop a system of your own. I have my music folder classified by genre, and then artists within each genre folder, then albums within those. I would suggest at least keeping folders for artists.
Also, I hate iTunes because the one time I actually tried it, it reorganized all my files, copied them, retagged them, and screwed them all up. And because it's Appleware. Do the work and you'll be rewarded.

I've been using iTunes for my main collection, then when I copy stuff onto my SD card, if I care enough at the time (Hey! Sometimes I'm in a hurry!), I'll use dBpoweramp's ID3 editor. Lets me embed album artwork and edit the tags on just about any file type, from MP3 and AAC to FLAC and ALAC.

ive tried doubletwist and i wasnt a huge fan. sorry for such a late response i forgot i made this thread lol im going to try Tag&Rename see how that goes ill reply after. only reason i use itunes is because i used to have an iphone lol and i had spent a while organizing all my music on itunes not realizing it didnt actually change the file and i didnt feel like reorganizing it all over again but now i feel up to it so hopefully this doesnt take forever

[Q] Unknown Artists?

Alright, so this has been bothering me first some time now.
When I go to my music app, I've noticed a bunch of my songs being labeled under "Unknown Artists".
Now, it never use to do this so I don't really understand how it happened.
I checked my SD card and everything in Root Explorer to see if there was any data corruption, but everything looks normal.
Has anyone had this problem before? What would you guys recommend? Thanks!

Another weird thing: I try to go to change the tags so I can put in the correct artist, but the Tag already shows the correct artist. The library just displays it as "Unknown Artists"
This has appeared on multiple music apps btw

The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.

063_XOBX said:
The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.
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Well, I don't know. The tags USED to work, and app finders are led to believe the tags are correct except in any Music App.

I'm having the same problems. I spent a few hours making sure all the tags were right using media monkey and still, my epic does not pick up the artists. picks up album art, albums, song names just fine. I think it may have something to do with iTunes. I used iTunes and converted all my music to m4a's (iTunes AAC format) and I read somewhere else that the android uses ID3v2 tags? Correct me if I'm wrong but thats the next step for me... converting everything to ID3v2 tags (if they aren't the same that is).
EDIT: Yes. I just converted one artist from .m4a (aac) to a .mp3 using iTunes and that solved it for me; that band now shows up under the Artists and not under Unknown. Hope this helps others.
If you need help I can post more.

More proof that ITunes is the Devil...?

Can I stop Windows Media Player converting my mp3 & mp4 to wma?

Title says it all really. Whenever I transfer files to my phone using WMP under Win 7 it converts them all to WMA files which is pointless since the track order then becomes alphabetical not as the id3 tag lists it. My version of WMP (can't find a version number since there is no file menu) does not have an option uncheck convert files as necessary like some people say there is under the device name in the sync menu.
Does anyone know how to stop this horrible behaviour and let me keep my media as I want it not how MS want it?

I thought there was a way, at least as far as Win Media 11 goes. I rarely use it so I can't recall it off the top of my head.
The next easiest thing is to stop using Microsoft products to handle audio and music; WMP is bloated and so un-intuitive.
Try Winamp, it's got a little bloat but it's pretty simple and manageable.
itunes does it's job but like most apple products, it's made for right-brained, artistic and people who feel good about things. That's not me.
I use file explorer windows, ctrl +c & ctrl +v
Good luck

richard.tufty said:
Title says it all really. Whenever I transfer files to my phone using WMP under Win 7 it converts them all to WMA files which is pointless since the track order then becomes alphabetical not as the id3 tag lists it. My version of WMP (can't find a version number since there is no file menu) does not have an option uncheck convert files as necessary like some people say there is under the device name in the sync menu.
Does anyone know how to stop this horrible behaviour and let me keep my media as I want it not how MS want it?
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Why do you even use wmp to transfer mp3 to your phone? just make a folder on your sd card has music and mount your sd card to your computer and drap and drop you files.

Nuenjin said:
Try Winamp, it's got a little bloat but it's pretty simple and manageable.
Good luck
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I tried Winamp, but it lists 2 copies of each track on the phone after syncing. There is ony one on it, but Winamp list 2. Annoying, but not the end of the world!

dfuse06 said:
Why do you even use wmp to transfer mp3 to your phone? just make a folder on your sd card has music and mount your sd card to your computer and drap and drop you files.
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I use WMP because it sorts all my audio files out for me. I have many files that aren't in a very good filing system from years ago and basically I'm too lazy to sort them out into Album/Artist folders (they have proper id3 tags though) to make finding things easier. The newer stuff I have ripped is better, in many ways due to iTunes organising it when I had an iPhone...
Also I have lots of Audio Books and WMP allows me to create Auto Playlists which excludes those files. I bashed iTunes a lot when I *had* to use it, it was bloaty and only recognised my iPhone about 2 in 3 times on Windows, but no it's gone I kinda miss it!

Found a solution/workaround
If I turn on USB debugging, thus disabling MTP mode, WMP will give me the option to not convert files. It's not as convenient as MTP since you have to click connect, but that's a small price to pay I think.

WMP12 (which is what Win7 has) can change the rip settings by pressing the ALT key to reveal the menu and then going to Tools->Options and looking for the Devices tab. Check the properties to see what the settings are here.
Also, if you don't use WMA at all change the settings in the "Rip Music" tab to use a format other than WMA. Don't know if this will help but I generally recommend to people when you don't use the format.

This problem drives me crazy. Why does WMP convert MP3 files? With my Arc S WMP converts only parts of the files. If I change the preferred format in "default-capability.xml" from MP4 to MP3 it works, but not for all files. This is sick.
I don't wanna miss WMP because it converts to 128Kbit/s and saves some space on the SD-Card.

Daniel D. said:
This problem drives me crazy. Why does WMP convert MP3 files? With my Arc S WMP converts only parts of the files. If I change the preferred format in "default-capability.xml" from MP4 to MP3 it works, but not for all files. This is sick.
I don't wanna miss WMP because it converts to 128Kbit/s and saves some space on the SD-Card.
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This works for me...
Go to the SYNC menu, YOUR DEVICE, then
the ADVANCED OPTIONS. Click on the QUALITY tab and make sure the MUSIC option
is set to SELECT QUALITY LEVEL AUTOMATICALLY. If you choose any other quality level it will convert to .wma.
- tom

tomX2 said:
This works for me...
Go to the SYNC menu, YOUR DEVICE, then
the ADVANCED OPTIONS. Click on the QUALITY tab and make sure the MUSIC option
is set to SELECT QUALITY LEVEL AUTOMATICALLY. If you choose any other quality level it will convert to .wma.
- tom
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damn..how to make it work for videos.

You may try use Avdshare*Video*Converter to Convert MP4 to Windows Media Player more compatilbe video format like convert MP4 to WMV, MP4 to AVI, MP4 to MPG, MP4 to ASF.