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XT9 predictive Input

Does anyone have any idea how to turn this off? it is the most annoying think...

Nevermind, I got it. Alt+Space lets you switch to ABC mode on a per application basis.

Disable XT9 Permanently!
WM5 ONLY, YOU WILL LOSE CAPS!
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.

Would be great... if it worked... just tried your changing the registry entry as you described, rebooted, went in to my note app -- created a new note -- started typing, and, up came that damn annoying T9.

I like XT9. It seems to remember everything I type which saves loads of time.

I really liked T9 on my SDA, but don't like XT9 -- really don't like that you can't just shut it off completely and use it as needed. Always comes back.
indiekiduk said:
I like XT9. It seems to remember everything I type which saves loads of time.
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It worked!
That registry thing worked for me. No more XT9....at all.

How do I ACTIVATE XT9 on my HTC S620 ?? Seems only the Dopod 720 & T-Mobile Dash have XT9, but they are the same phones, made by HTC ?? Thanks, kampsy

lucky you... wish it worked for me.
lysine said:
That registry thing worked for me. No more XT9....at all.
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Carriers add thier own stuff to devices they bring to market -- T-Mobile added xT9 to the Dash, HTC didn't. It's not something you can purchase.
kampsy said:
How do I ACTIVATE XT9 on my HTC S620 ?? Seems only the Dopod 720 & T-Mobile Dash have XT9, but they are the same phones, made by HTC ?? Thanks, kampsy
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search for xt9 cab.
pretty sure i saw that someone figured out how to add it.
don't see why anyone would though.

mar11974 said:
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.
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are you willing to make a cab, please?

mar11974 said:
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.
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This worked for me, but it's killed my CAPS key. I can't use it to capitalize any letters. Any ideas? Thanks.

Did the same to my device. Wow -- great tweak whoever posted that, did't get rid of my xT9 and trashed capital letters. Sort of like a manually-entered virus. Anyone recall what was in the resistry before the change was made?
monakh said:
This worked for me, but it's killed my CAPS key. I can't use it to capitalize any letters. Any ideas? Thanks.
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chaznet said:
Did the same to my device. Wow -- great tweak whoever posted that, didn't get rid of my xT9 and trashed capital letters. Sort of like a manually-entered virus. Anyone recall what was in the registry before the change was made?
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Yeah it REALLY sucks, I hope the poster was aware of this little 'tweak' before s/he suggested it. More importantly, I hope he or she used it on their own before recommending it. I am real annoyed by this result but it serves me right for not taking anything here with a grain of salt. Things have changed a lot in the last couple of years.
I guess, I will just wait for the official T-Mo WM6 ROM for the Dash to get rid of this nagging issue. Whatever.

on WM6 if you turn it off in one app it turns it off for them all and then stays off if you reboot. Its Beautiful!

WM5 ONLY
WM5 only, WM6 doesn't have the same issue or settings, but I'm sure WM6 users know that already. Yes, tested it on my Dash and yes you lose caps, but if XT9 is so annoying, so what. BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING POSTED ON A DEVELOPERS FORUM, OTHERWISE WAIT FOR THE MANUFACTURER OR CARRIER TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES! What have you contibuted to improve or correct any thing in this forum anyways?

Looking back, I see it was you who posted this little bug. Would've been nice if you posted something along the lines of 'the registry should say 'A', change it to 'B' so we could at least put it back. Yes, we should've backed our registries up first, but this looked like such an inviting little tweak. Who knew it was useles because:
A) It doesn't turn off xT9
B) It disables the ability to use capital letters
Oddly enough, when xT9 is active (which shouldn't be possible according to you) words that are remembered with capital letters are now the 1 and only way I can get a capital letter.
The other poster is right, WM6 is around the corner, might just as well wait until then to fix your 'helpful tweak'.
And, um, you consider this a contribution?
mar11974 said:
WM5 only, WM6 doesn't have the same issue or settings, but I'm sure WM6 users know that already. Yes, tested it on my Dash and yes you lose caps, but if XT9 is so annoying, so what. BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING POSTED ON A DEVELOPERS FORUM, OTHERWISE WAIT FOR THE MANUFACTURER OR CARRIER TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES! What have you contibuted to improve or correct any thing in this forum anyways?
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chaznet said:
Looking back, I see it was you who posted this little bug. Would've been nice if you posted something along the lines of 'the registry should say 'A', change it to 'B' so we could at least put it back. Yes, we should've backed our registries up first, but this looked like such an inviting little tweak. Who knew it was useles because:
A) It doesn't turn off xT9
B) It disables the ability to use capital letters
Oddly enough, when xT9 is active (which shouldn't be possible according to you) words that are remembered with capital letters are now the 1 and only way I can get a capital letter.
The other poster is right, WM6 is around the corner, might just as well wait until then to fix your 'helpful tweak'.
And, um, you consider this a contribution?
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It's a contribution because he was trying. It's not his fault it also does something else. And it obviously works for some people, they're even saying so. So don't jump down someone's throat cause he was just putting out an idea. Back up your files, or do what I, and everyone should do, write down what it is you're changing so you can change it back.

Did you make this registry change? If not, what is your registry entry? If you did, apparently you were smart and wrote it down? What was it before you made the change?
Now that would be a contribution
oplitic said:
It's a contribution because he was trying. It's not his fault it also does something else. And it obviously works for some people, they're even saying so. So don't jump down someone's throat cause he was just putting out an idea. Back up your files, or do what I, and everyone should do, write down what it is you're changing so you can change it back.
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HTC S620 (Excalibur) and T9...

Does anybody know a way to install T9 or the newer version from the Dash on the S620? I really like the word-completion feature of my other smartphones and PPC's.
Thanks!

we'll probably have to wait until someone extracts the extrom of the dash rom

Careful what you wish for

why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?

It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
unlockMe said:
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
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I understand that T9 is directed more towards standard phone keyboards, but I use it on my Hermes all the time. When typing a long email, the word completion can save time.

T9 dictionary edit
I am super annoyed by wrong words being added to the T9 dictionary!
I tried using the msT9Ed.exe, but it seems to not find the correct file.
I did find a file called "eT9Cdb.cdb" in the Windows folder, but don't know if this is the right thing to edit.
Anyone found something lately to edit the T9 dictionary?

newer xT9
chaznet said:
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
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Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time

leggoman said:
Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
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I think this is what you need to fix your keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2271723&postcount=1

Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.

xt9
stylez said:
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
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thanks for the reply
and Im kind of getting the hang of things now with this phone.
just one thing, I will search and see if i can find it, but if you read this could you place a link in you reply where i can find UK.English xt9? I saw this in your reply and is just what I need as I have the US version.
OPPS it is a link in your post silly me LOL thats what sig ment
thanks again for your help. all working great now
great site so much info and help

How to change Keyboard Skin? Advice Please

May be I am asking this question again, but I have tried to search in the forum and unable to find any help.
Recently got XDA-Orbit, I must score it a decent device. I am stuck to change the soft keyboard, I have tried 2 from BuzzDev but no joy, it is also mentioned under the instructions that "You must be running "nocert" ROM (1.60c and above)". Any advice would be greatfull.
Thanks
Sidd
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=68&func=select&id=13

Any ideas anyone?

I'm probably not going to be much use, but there will be a dll in the windows folder on it that has the keyboard pics. The problem is that the file will be signed and if you edit it and expect to replace it you'll need to be able to re-sign it. The windows ppc sdk can help you with this; i haven't changed any myself, so i can't sorry!

Thanks for even write something jdl1306, its seems like no one in this forum has came accros with the issue like this, is it possible?
Thanks anyway

sidd said:
Thanks for even write something jdl1306, its seems like no one in this forum has came accros with the issue like this, is it possible?
Thanks anyway
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Yea, i did try a keyboard skin which was signed and it worked on my wm5 prophet. So i guess, buzz's or the crossbow KB skin have to be signed in order for them to work

I used the "certification off" program which I found on the website below (near bottom of page), this allowed me to install unsigned keyboard skins to the wifes Prophet.
Maybe it'll work for you, let us know.
http://www.pdamagician.com/wm5software.html
This was also discussed on a thread about Happy Tapping Keyboard,
maybe worth a search.

Mister B said:
I used the "certification off" program which I found on the website below (near bottom of page), this allowed me to install unsigned keyboard skins to the wifes Prophet.
Maybe it'll work for you, let us know.
http://www.pdamagician.com/wm5software.html
This was also discussed on a thread about Happy Tapping Keyboard,
maybe worth a search.
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Thanks, i tried the Nocert cab earlier, it didnt work for me. Found a skinned KB from www.miousers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1812 (thx to MCCUNE) which installed and worked. Wonder why the MUN's WM6 Kb is not working.
Hope we find a solution.. thanks again

Hermes Keyboard Map

I flashed to the htc release wm 6.1 but accidentally did a foreign version. I flashed it again with the US release and it works fine except the symbols E, D, X, W, S, Z, Q, and A are not working correctly. They input a different symbol.
I went to do the keyboard fix...
"Goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout' and it is in Decimal.
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hexadecimal)."
...and the value was already 132105 (20409 in decimal)
I went ahead and changed it to 132104 and then back to 132105 but it is still not working.
Is there such a program that would allow me to easily re-map the keyboard?
Any help is appreciated!

schaps advanced config 2

Thanks!
I ended up just finding this fix a little further down the page...
"Issue: When applying a non-cingular ROM to an 8525 its default keyboard is different than the 8525.
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?

scfreshy said:
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
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FIXED sorry for clutter!

The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
No it doesn't fix the problem, any other place in the registry do you know....? Thank you!!

Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,

Greeee said:
Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,
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Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.

kareem9nba said:
Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.
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Hi there,
I'm actually new to Smartphones, and the Tytn / Hermes was going cheaply online (ebay unfortunately), but the phone itself is excellent and is easy to use from back in my windows days.
Most is familiar, but seeing how far Windows can go before I want to switch to Linux.
Where would I get the ACT? Is it downloadable from here as a development tool, or is it online needing payments etc?
Thank you,

greee, u can get it at schaps website here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070&highlight=advanced

galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,

Greeee said:
galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,
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Both should install on main memory.
Are you getting an error when the don't install?

So far kareem, i'm getting an XML output for the ACT, and for Pocket MSN it reports:
Setup Is Not a valid Pocket PC application.
With the ACT, i've no option to install, although the setup file I have was meant to be a cab file.
Thank you,

Scratch all that, got both PocketMSN and ACT installed today! For some reason the keyboard was in German, so switched that back!
Thanks guys!
Now got to find uber cool stuffs for my phone...

what's the value for an azerty keyboard

Can I change the language in the hardware keyboard?

I have an english device and I would like to know if there is any possibility to type in greek.

the same problem with me! and a question is: is there anybody, who can help to surfice russian cirilic letters beside the eng without loosing functionality ! I meen, backlight baeming existing on the device for the english letters
could that be some sort of laser burning tech for this matter???

Here you are. I am successfully typing italian.
Please next time use search function "hardware keyboard national characters"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417271&highlight=hardware+keyboard+layout

Thanks for this. I needed this tip as well.
Please go easy on the beginners.
It is impossible to find something with keyword search unless you happen to know the exact right keywords (and not some synonyms). I know -- I'm an expert in not finding stuff

you're very welcome

Guys what about software keyborad< original Touch? can we change registry for russian? or insall some cab... I thinnk I tried cab from Dimond 2...but it didn't work

I've changed the sym.0816.txt file and replaced it in \windows!
but somehow I can't type the characters with Fn+Sym key? Am I combining the keys of the keyboard wrong??
I've done it before with Touch Pro with success! It had a physical Sym Key on the HW keyboard and TP2 has a FN+Sym... perhaps that's the problem?!?
thanks