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Does anybody know a way to install T9 or the newer version from the Dash on the S620? I really like the word-completion feature of my other smartphones and PPC's.
Thanks!
we'll probably have to wait until someone extracts the extrom of the dash rom
Careful what you wish for
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
unlockMe said:
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
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I understand that T9 is directed more towards standard phone keyboards, but I use it on my Hermes all the time. When typing a long email, the word completion can save time.
T9 dictionary edit
I am super annoyed by wrong words being added to the T9 dictionary!
I tried using the msT9Ed.exe, but it seems to not find the correct file.
I did find a file called "eT9Cdb.cdb" in the Windows folder, but don't know if this is the right thing to edit.
Anyone found something lately to edit the T9 dictionary?
newer xT9
chaznet said:
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
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Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
leggoman said:
Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
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I think this is what you need to fix your keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2271723&postcount=1
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
xt9
stylez said:
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
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thanks for the reply
and Im kind of getting the hang of things now with this phone.
just one thing, I will search and see if i can find it, but if you read this could you place a link in you reply where i can find UK.English xt9? I saw this in your reply and is just what I need as I have the US version.
OPPS it is a link in your post silly me LOL thats what sig ment
thanks again for your help. all working great now
great site so much info and help
Hi everyone!
Many people out there from all over the world have upgraded their Artemis to Windows Mobile 6, thanks to people who are working hard on cooking nice ROMs for us. These people are used to a specific keyboard layout, many languages are using special characters too.
It would be nice to have a way to change the keyboard layout : something like easy installing CABs or a how to on what to change in the registry, what to remove on the storage, or whatever way to have our own keyboard on theses WWE ROMs.
Is it possible?
vive le france
Hi Romano2k,
The only thing that i have found was this regkey:
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/Windows_Mobile_5_Registry_Tweaks
But afaik does this regkey only work for the 'hard-keyboard' and not for the software-keyboard, so this answer won't help you a lot...
On my P3300 nothing changed with these keys and nothing happend when i changed the keys in 'HKCU\Keyboard Layout' In another forum i found a thread and they are saying you need a third-party software to change the software-keyboard...but for me it's no problem to use the english keyboard...but french keyboards are much stranger (i think french keyboard are the strangest keyboards that exists) and so i can understand your problem
Cheers
Peter
Love your reply's title
I agree with you, the french keyboard is strange, I wish they were only DVORAK keyboards all over the world! But I need my "é" "à" and so on... I'm sure there's a way to change the software keyboard!
Vive LA France
As far as I know it's a dll file that you would have to change. Never tried in WM6 to replace it, in WM 2003 it wasn't possible. Resco Keyboard would be an alternative if you don't want to try to change the layout yourself.
ups...
My french isn't that well....long time ago since school
I found a cab for the german keyboard, maybe you will find out more when you take a look inside this cab ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321236
Found French Keyboard ?
Heya,
maybe this could help you ? No idea if it works because i'm from Liechtenstein and i don't need a french keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1145926&postcount=29
Cheers
Peter
And for us in Greece?
Hi all,
Is there any way to change the keybord to contain Greek characters???
INTRO
I've started this thread to port the EzInput Keyboard to QVGA resolution. The keyboard is now fully functional yet still has a couple of small glitches to be fixed in portrait mode.
I am doing all the testing on my elfin, so I cannot assure that it will work on other devices so you'll have to test it yourselves!
You can download it here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uxi3be
THANKS
I must thank
DupinBJK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486227
nikoan89:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489032
and
Conflipper
for their hard work on the VGA port, since I have mixed parts of their ports to get this QVGA version working.
KNOWN BUGS
XT9 is not currently working: the keyboard seems to get the coordinates (size and position) of the VGA keys. E.g.: if you press "q", "a" or "w" the keyboard will write "q" on the screen, since the three letters are in the area of the "q" key in a VGA screen (double size).
Any help on this matter would be really appreciated!!!
XT9 UPDATE 05/01/2009:
I´ve managed to get XT9 working by replacing the xT9ime.dll of the EzInput 2 with the EzInput 1.5 dll supplied with the ROM I am using. The problem now is that I cannot change XT9 mode back to normal mode .
Anyway I encourage you to test this and see if we can get a solution to the XT9 issues.
To test it, just go to the windows directory, rename eT9ime.dll to something else (e.g. eT9ime.dll.OLD) and reset your device (this should restore the dll supplied with your ROM).
I´m waiting for your comments!!!!
VIBRATION/XT9 UPDATE 05/13/2009:
I managed to get vibration to work a couple of weeks ago, but I wanted to fix the T9 mode before releasing a new version.
I´ve been working on T9 and have not been able to find where the code responsible for calculating the key pressed (based on the coordinates) is.
OPTION A: If anyone is able to find such place in the code or just point me in the right direction, I´ll find the time to patch et9Ime.dll so that QVGA users can enjoy T9 in this keyboard.
OPTION B: Another possible option would be to patch the et9Ime.dll from ezinput 1.5, but the mappings of some important keys seem to be different (XT9/ABC switch for example), and also different registry keys need to be updated so that everything works as it should.
Sorry for the lack of feedback, but I need more time for fixing these issues since this is the first time I am dealing with SIP/IME/IMM and stuff and I´ve found it a little bit more complex than I thought it would be.
HOWTO
Additionally, I'm planning on writing a very simple "howto" to explain people what they can do to adjust/fix/change the layout of the keyboard.
PS: I cannot post any screenshot now, so if anyone of you can upload one I'd be grateful.
problem on XT9 mode, maybe is the key mapping, i dunno that
for example type q,w,a,s the result is --> qqqq
type e,r,d ---> www
thanks for your hard working
T9 issue
You're right (i did not test the XT9 )
I'll have a look at it.
Thanks
Nice
Just 2 questions :
- vibrate when keys are pressed : Don t work normal maybe ...
- Is there a way to change language to french? i see 40C file ...
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looks great, good to finally have EZInput for QVGA.
major bug I noticed it messes up the keyboard mapping..for example Caps does not function, nor does the light, just flickers on then off when caps is hit, I believe to turn caps on and off (at least for me) I would have to use function, which also works for function (if that makes sense) lol
also the function keys got incorrectly mapped, I will try the tilt keyboard fix, hopefully that will work, and you can post that Cab.
Minor Issue: no SIP image to open the keyboard on the phone. its a black square, hit the square to active SIP. Would be nice to get a cool new icon though ;P
other then that, I will continue to test this, because the spacing between the keys and the skin is very nice
Thanks for your hard work and the post
I installed this new version and the only major thing I see compared to all the rest of the one you have posted is that the SIP Icon for the Keyboard that shows between the softkeys is missing, if you press the empty space the Keyboard still pops up and is functional but the icon is gone.
thanks man. Work great
So I don't have the phone keypad...is this just a problem with me or does anyone else have this problem?
XT9 is off, but that's fine cause I don't find a need for xt9 on a full keyboard anyways. Though like I said in the other thread I wish there was compact qwerty, or at least I could have the compact qwerty from my other keyboard as well.
Thanks a lot! Im at school now, but as soon as I get home, I'll install this on my phone.
- Thanks, your job is really appreciated.
Great !!!
I've been waiting for this for sometime now and just say thanks for the Qvga version Just wondering if anyone is working on the xt9 bug, i have gotten accustom to using that but if not no worries still a great keyboard !!!
Well, this full qwerty is a huge improvement over the EZ-Input one. I installed the keyboard and used the full qwerty without any problems. HOWEVER, does the Compact QWERTY mode not work with this? Thanks.
Thank you man, you are awesome !
I don't have any problems with it, except the reported bug of the SIP Icon.
But the keyboard on my Elf is a bit slow without O/C. (WM 6.5)
I love this keyboard !
XT9 bug
I've been looking at the XML files, the kdb files and the ldb files and I still cannot figure out the place where the XT9 keys size/position (x,y,h,w) is defined.
Does anyone know whether it's hardcoded in a PE module or it can be configured anywhere?
BTW, I'm afraid Compact QWERTY is not possible for the time being...
Sorry if I'm repeating. If I switch to numeric and press a key and then go back to ABC then all the keys are screwed up and when I press them I get the wrong keys. Do others have the same problem?
littld, i'm not experiencing that behaviour, sorry
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I've been looking at the XML files, the kdb files and the ldb files and I still cannot figure out the place where the XT9 keys size/position (x,y,h,w) is defined.
Does anyone know whether it's hardcoded in a PE module or it can be configured anywhere?
BTW, I'm afraid Compact QWERTY is not possible for the time being...
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I have been trying to find this out too, I have looked everywhere and can't find the positions for XT9.
Side note, on all 3 previous versions you could use XT9 in ABC and it worked perfectly, but in the new version it just types normally in ABC and XT9 is still broke.
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I have been trying to find this out too, I have looked everywhere and can't find the positions for XT9.
Side note, on all 3 previous versions you could use XT9 in ABC and it worked perfectly, but in the new version it just types normally in ABC and XT9 is still broke.
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You mean in the previous versions I posted in the QVGA Rhodium Development thread?
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You mean in the previous versions I posted in the QVGA Rhodium Development thread?
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Yes, all 3 you posted in that thread. If set to XT9 all key mapping was off as I had posted in that thread and others. But ABC worked as XT9 without a problem. It was weird. But I am running the last posted version which I downloaded from sendspace and it works as described above. When I installed the one when you opened this thread also from sendspace XT9 key mapping is still the same, totally off and ABC just functions as it should, regular typing with no text prediction.
Hope that makes sense?
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Yes, all 3 you posted in that thread. If set to XT9 all key mapping was off as I had posted in that thread and others. But ABC worked as XT9 without a problem. It was weird. But I am running the last posted version which I downloaded from sendspace and it works as described above. When I installed the one when you opened this thread also from sendspace XT9 key mapping is still the same, totally off and ABC just functions as it should, regular typing with no text prediction.
Hope that makes sense?
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Not really...
Anyway I'll play around a bit with the different modules to see what I can get.
I don't have the Touch Pro 2 yet but I am trying to help someone out to fix his issue.
Basically his problem is the suggested word feature doesn't work as well as the Original Touch Pro.
Here is his issue. If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.
The correct word "também" is correctly suggested if I type "tamb". So far, so good (although on Touch Pro I could type "tambem" and he would suggest "também" also). The problem is with small words like "olá", "não", "é", "há", "ás", etc...
The T9 only starts suggesting words after the third letter.
Does anyone know how to make the T9 start suggesting after the first typed letter? It would make things better, but it would not solve the problem. There are many words that are single lettered: "é", "à", "á", etc..
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Maybe a registry setting? I don't have the TP2 so I am not able to browse the registry and find it but I figured you guys would be the best help for this issue. Thanks in advance.
Try this...
Dont know if its what you are after, but might be
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534126
hope this helps
I think most t9 starts after the third word because just by typing one letter, there are thousands of words that it can be. So when more letters are typed, it narrows down the selection in the dictionary. The only words that might show up quicker is if the TP2 actually stores newly added words into the dictionary.
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I don't have the Touch Pro 2 yet but I am trying to help someone out to fix his issue.
Basically his problem is the suggested word feature doesn't work as well as the Original Touch Pro.
Here is his issue. If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.
Maybe a registry setting? I don't have the TP2 so I am not able to browse the registry and find it but I figured you guys would be the best help for this issue. Thanks in advance.
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Hi. I'm the one who wrote the quoted message
Thanks dfootball56!
Let me just add some more info: what madjsp wrote is indeed true. However, on Touch Pro, this never happened... If I typed "esta", the XT9 on Touch Pro would suggest "está", "esta", "estámos", etc... On TP2, "está" only is suggested if I type "est".
This is, if I type the full accented word (without the accent) it does not suggests the correctly accented word...
Hope I'm not being too much confusing...
Thanks for any help!
you've been clear enough! same problem here, very very annoying since in italian accented letters are very common too.. no solutions / hacks / tricks??
that would be great! thaks a lot!
Hi. I'm the one who wrote the quoted message
Thanks dfootball56!
Let me just add some more info: what madjsp wrote is indeed true. However, on Touch Pro, this never happened... If I typed "esta", the XT9 on Touch Pro would suggest "está", "esta", "estámos", etc... On TP2, "está" only is suggested if I type "est".
This is, if I type the full accented word (without the accent) it does not suggests the correctly accented word...
Hope I'm not being too much confusing...
Thanks for any help!
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Hey man. Figured these guys on here were the best resource of new hacks and tweaks. I'm sure someone will get bored and try to figure something out...haha If I had one now I would search the registry for you but it hasn't came out in the U.S yet
Update: I mailed HTC and they understood and acknowledged my problem. Just hope it was worth the "effort"...
I'm quoting all the mails:
Me: (...) already described the problem
HTC:"Hi Nuno,
The T9 dictionary does not include words with special characters. You can add these words manually, and they will be remembered next time you need them. On the onscreen keyboards, tapping and holding on the letter assosciated with the special character will display all the extra characters for that letter, and you can drag and select them.
Best REgads"
Me: "Hi. Thanks for the fast reply. I'm afraid I disagree with you: the T9 does include words with special characters. I've never added words like "está", "também", "já", and they are there. The problem is that even if I add the word "olá" to the diccionary (not needed because it is already there), the T9 will not suggest it because the suggestions only start after the third letter. I type "ola" and it does not suggests me "olá". However, the T9 of the 'old' Touch Pro that I've got does this correctly: I type "estariamos" -the full word - and it suggests me "estaríamos". On the Touch Pro 2, I would have to type "estar" so it could suggest me "estaríamos". Are understanding what the problem is? I hope I'm not being too confuse. Thanks."
HTC:"Hi Nuno,
I understand the issue now, I do not think I can resolve this for you now, I have forwarded details to our developers for investigation and possible resolution. Please monitor our support pages for fixes and updates in teh future, and I will be back in contact once I have further news for you.
Best Regards"
I then closed the "support case". I think there's nothing much I can do...
Nuno, did you recieve any reply from their side?
great job nuno, so basically we have to wait and pray for them to fix it in a rom update or hotfix... wtf
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Nuno, did you recieve any reply from their side?
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Yes, I did... you can see what they told me on my previous post.
Unfortunately we just have to wait for a hotfix...
at least they said they will do this hotfix.. it's a good start, now let's hope it doesn'take ages!
Today I found that the T9 word suggestion work's perfectly if I write the messages in portrait mode (without hard keyboard out) and with the "telephone numeric keys" selected...
This is indeed a bug somewhere on the T9 definitions...
Hi.
I worked out a solution!! ;D ;D ;D
I borrowed a Portuguese Touch Pro, copied the following files from \windows
eT9.HQD.kdb
eT9.SQR.Accented.kdb
et9.sqr.portuguese.kdb
eT9ime.dll
KbdNopAll.dll
and then placed them on the \windows folder of the Touch Pro 2
Reboot and DONE!
Good "old" XT9 with the correctly suggested words!!
I've placed the files here, in case someone needs it:
http://www.nunosilva.com.pt/nuno/outras/T9TouchPro.rar
Mind that this is for the Portuguese TP2; I don't know if there are differences from TP2 from other countries.
Thank you all for your help
Well... not that solved after all...
I found out that the Touch Pro has specific keys for these marks:
/ ? + = - _
Meaning: on the Touch Pro 2, I can't write them with the hard keyboard
I also found out that it is only necessary to replace the eT9ime.dll file; all the other are pointless as far as I figured out.
So, to put it back in it's original form, just re-replace the eT9ime.dll file.
Here is the link, in case someone forgot to backup the files before replace them with the files from the Touch Pro:
http://www.nunosilva.com.pt/nuno/outras/T9TouchPro2.rar
Because it is an .dll file I don't really know if it is editable in any way... is someone knows how to do it, please do tell me..
Thanks.
Does anyone have this working on the TP2 when using the h/w keyboard? This is on a CDMA version. The dictionary file is in the Windows directory, but if I type i and hit space, it does not correct to I as per the dictionary. I've seen some other phones with hardware keyboard have had to disable T9 which also breaks the on screen qwerty keyboard. I'd like to avoid that but still have my text corrected.
this'll help you out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
seriously tho, it's been discussed, there's a way around it but you'll lose the functionality of the SYM key on your hardware keyboard & maybe some other things
xnifex said:
this'll help you out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
seriously tho, it's been discussed, there's a way around it but you'll lose the functionality of the SYM key on your hardware keyboard & maybe some other things
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I realize it's been discussed on other platforms. I had not found a relevant discussion for the CDMA TP2. I believe it disables T9, etc.
I went ahead and installed this cab:
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=105&d=1231205891
Autocorrect is working fine on the hardware keyboard and the stock QWERTY soft keyboard is still working.