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I had the craziest thing happen to my BlueAngel yesterday....
All of my lower buttons were screwed up the Green Phone, D-Pad, Red Phone all opened Contacts and Calendar.
How it fixed its self, I think.
I hard reset 4 ya, 4 times and it still didn't work I was ready to get to work today and downgrade back to WM2003SE to see if that fixed it.....
But my battery died while I was asleep
Got to work this morning, put my other battery in and BOOM, it's fixed.... HMMMM I wonder what happened that a hard reset wouldn't fix but a dead battery would.....
The only thing that I can think caused the problem was installing a piece of software made for WM2003SE... VJSmallIcons which it does say that the program doesn't support WM5.0 it ran just some problems...
BUT WHY DIDN'T A HARD RESET FIX THE PROBLEM>>>>>
it happened again yesterday for about 3 or 4 hours and then it just went back....
Hello,
I have a strange problem with my HTC Artemis (O2 XDA branded, bought in Germany, no lock)
It behaves unstable and indeterministic.
Unstable means that it crashes/stucks or turns off.
Indeterministic means that it happens when i plugg it to charger, when i'm syncing, when a phone rings, when using applications/tomtom or just i arrive to work and i find the device off.
When it crashes or i find it off, the biggest problem is to boot the device. It takes me typically 10mins, when i'm always trying to press the power button, push the reset button or unplugg the battery for a while in random order until i bring it to work.
After first crach, the device also often crashes or stucks again during the boot process.
Once, the device was so dead, that it took me two days to bring it into bootloader mode and then i could at least flash the ROM.
All these was happening with ARTEMIS TOUCH 4.01 WWE - LITE NO CUBE.
Yesterday, i switched to ARTEMIS TOUCH 4.02 WWE - LITE NO CUBE (burned FW twice) without installing any other applications and the problems are still here
My personal feeling is that it is getting every week worser.
When i bought the device (eBay), there was original FW with Win Mobile 5 on it, i immediately flashed to ARTEMIS TOUCH 3.01(?) WWE - FULL WITH CUBE, i can only remember that that time I had a problem with gsm radio - from time to time i found it stucked/off - to bring it to work i had to reset the device. So i flashed to 4.01 and this issue was away, but approx 2months ago, the above described behaviour has started and nowdays i'm fighting with it 2-3x a day.
so, can anybody help?
GiZMo
Similar here
I have a similar problem, what's really strange to me is, that as far as i can recall it started happening 2 months ago or so also!! weird huh...
my device simply reboots from time to time! even while i'm making a call.
the weird thing about these reboots is that when it comes back to live i do not have to enter my pin to enable the phone! everytime i perform a manual reboot (by software, using the pin or remove battery) i have to insert my pin to able to make a call...
i have upgraded from 3.01 full touch to 4.02 full touch about the time it started, i have now 4.02 vanilla touch but problem still occurs from time to time.
any ideas?
Im another one to join this boat!
Bought an MDA C 3, two days ago, bought of someone from gumtree.com.
Worked fine for the first hour, and then locked up - nothing on the screen, no LED. Only way to get it going was to remove battery and then press power button.
I upgraded the ROM from the original t-mob UK WM5 to mechles fine release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371182
The lock-ups / crashes have now become rarer, on average every 4 hours (before was every 1 hour).
There is no pattern to them either, although I have saw the screen trun all corrupted just before it happens. The last one was caused when I pressed the 'start' button.
I'm on a T-Mob contract, and lost my Kaiser, got ripped of when I tryed to replace it by a tosser on here for $375 Thief on the loose thread, and was hoping my luck had changed when I bought this one!!
It is T-mob branded and I wonder if there isn't a fix on here, would T-Mob repair it under warranty??
same "issue" with no entering of PIN after reboot. But not always
GiZMoSK said:
ARTEMIS TOUCH 3.01(?) WWE - FULL WITH CUBE, i can only remember that that time I had a problem with gsm radio - from time to time i found it stucked/off - to bring it to work i had to reset the device.
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here i found a good description of that issue:
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Originally Posted by lasertony
I've got the same problem as !Novy, but nobody seems to have noticed his question. Are there any other guys out there with this strange problem ? I have been using this rom for a while and sometimes, without any visual warning the phone freezes up. This is particularly ennoying because there is no way to check wether it is working or not. Every other function or software keeps working ! The phone is just not receiving any calls or sms. So you can miss an entire day of calls and sms without knowing... Only when trying to call somebody the dialer says 'Dialing...' and nothing happens. No connection.
A soft reset is needed to get the phone working again.
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btw, now i'm again trying to turn the device on, it's again stuck. grrr
Hello,
i had a few weeks ago a similar strange behaviour.
After changing the sd-card I had problems to turn the device on. After a hard reset it began to boot but hang.
The I flashed back to original O2 ROM. Then I had a unpredictable behaviour. Somtimes no sound. Sometimes I cound not be called. Sometimes Error message "no sim card". After every reset i had an other error.
Hard reset and flashing was no solution. Removing battery for less than 4 hours has no effect.
Then I wanted to send it back for repair. I took of the battery. The next day I wanted to try a last time and surprise: The device works fine without an error. Its hard to believe, but the removal of the battery for more than 8 hours was the solution.
Now I use it for 5 weeks without a problem.
regards
Andre
It is Happening to my device too!!
It stucks every 2-3 hours!Tried many of the cooked ROMs but nothing.Also tried all the radio roms for 1-2 days.still the same!
It stucks with no particular reason.SOmetimes in s2u2 sometimes when am receiving a call.... etc.
Had the pin problem too for 3-4 times!
I will try your sugestion ANDRE and we will see!
Also i will try flashing the original rom,cid unlock and then flash the cood rom twice!
Fingers crosed....
Andre1210 said:
Its hard to believe, but the removal of the battery for more than 8 hours was the solution.
Now I use it for 5 weeks without a problem.
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didn't help
happy u
now, i will try to flash back original german o2 rom
I think mine is sorted now, thanks to a new battery.
Installed it on Wednesday and hasn't died/crashed once since then.
I did notice before that the battery was getting warm, and I stuck the handset on the vent of my AC in the car, and this seemed to make the phone more stable.
Got one from Deal Extreme or try the XDA shop.
It worked for me!!
bricked or not?
did my device get bricked?
last friday i wanted to change firmware and during step1-cid unlocking (device should never been cid locked) pda got stucked. So i unplugged it and since then i cannot turn it on or get it into bootloader mode.
the only proof of life is when I take away battery and plugg it to power supply, then the red diod turns on and off for 1/2sec.
any idea what to do?
Vinnie1 said:
I think mine is sorted now, thanks to a new battery.
Installed it on Wednesday and hasn't died/crashed once since then.
I did notice before that the battery was getting warm, and I stuck the handset on the vent of my AC in the car, and this seemed to make the phone more stable.
Got one from Deal Extreme or try the XDA shop.
It worked for me!!
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I thought it was a battery problem too, but I've 2 batteries and both are died in the same time? I think it's too strange...
My P3300 have this problem from when it is returned from assistence and with original firmware (without other applications).
dude i think u bricked ur device i am sorry to convey such a message!
now its time for CPR go to xda wiki and try the SD flashing get ur device back to life man
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
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did my device get bricked?
last friday i wanted to change firmware and during step1-cid unlocking (device should never been cid locked) pda got stucked. So i unplugged it and since then i cannot turn it on or get it into bootloader mode.
the only proof of life is when I take away battery and plugg it to power supply, then the red diod turns on and off for 1/2sec.
any idea what to do?
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jahrami said:
dude i think u bricked ur device i am sorry to convey such a message!
now its time for CPR go to xda wiki and try the SD flashing get ur device back to life man
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
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but i cannot get into bootloader mode so no flashing from SD card or PC
bricked device
so my device ist still dead
is there any possibility to hard flash bootloader (when corrupt)? or the only way is to change the mainboard?
GiZMoSK said:
so my device ist still dead
is there any possibility to hard flash bootloader (when corrupt)? or the only way is to change the mainboard?
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the good sign are the leds that means you have a very good chance...the guy made the piont...check the wiki
random crashes are often caused by hardware malfunction...sometimes the connection on the motherboard stuck,get broken or make a short-circuit...so check the hardware
I have a problem with my Artemis. I'll try to decribe the problem and if anyone can help me i will be thankful.
When is Power on it works few minutes than it freeze and screen desapears. After that I try to power but it doesnt work. It needs time to accept the Power comand and I don't know where problem is... (i thing that it's about temperature but i'm not sure)
I tryed to flash with later software and win mobile 5 but the same thing happens.
Any help?
Please specify which applications you have installed and eventually which ROM.
I strongly recommand you to flash your device with latest ROMs like Black and Blue one or others (see the Windows mobile 6 section of Artemis)...
A hard reset would solve your problem anyhow I suppose.
Are you overclocking your CPU with some software? like BatteryStatus for example?
Please let us know...
Gues i fixed the problem
It not was about ROM... I have tryed flashing with Black & Blue, Vanilla etc. but the problem was the same. When I put the Phone in the pocked it freezes. Meybe it was problem with cooling.
Anyway I used a tutorial how to upen the phone, i opened it, cleaned it (using spray for clean) and now it works fine i gues.
Thanks a lot...
Regards
rrezarthajrizi said:
It not was about ROM... I have tryed flashing with Black & Blue, Vanilla etc. but the problem was the same. When I put the Phone in the pocked it freezes. Meybe it was problem with cooling.
Anyway I used a tutorial how to upen the phone, i opened it, cleaned it (using spray for clean) and now it works fine i gues.
Thanks a lot...
Regards
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can you please put that tuturial in this post????
thanks
jayss said:
can you please put that tuturial in this post????
thanks
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Wiki is your friend....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Disassemble
I had the same problem with mine....
The phone is fecked take it back to the makers and get a replacement..
I had the exact same problem with my P3300. It's a malfunction in the Motherboard. I've called the dutch helpdesk and because a hard reset didn't do much good the PDA was picked up later that day to be sent to Eurotwice, the repair station in Belgium. I got my phone back 2 weeks later, I started it and it froze again! So I immediatly called HTC Netherlands and again, the P3300 was picked up by UPS that afternoon. The second time I wrote a letter to the repair station and sent it with my phone. In another topic on another website I read that some other phone with the same problem had been fixed by replacing the motherboard. I got my phone back today and it works great! It hasn't crashed today, and I have confidence it won't in the future. So my tip to you and anyone who experiences this problem: Call the HTC helpdesk in your country and ask them to sent your PDA to a repair station. It might take a while but they fix it well! By the way, you have 2 years full garantee so it didn't cost me anything! Great service from HTC!
Had the same problem.
Power was on, then de screen went black and stayed black even after pushing the right upper side button. Had about 4.90mb free storage memory on the phone and 200mb on my card left.
Soft reset didn't work but a hard reset did!
I have the same problem for the last week
I tried to change Roms to original and back to manila, the same problem.
the artemis freeze suddenly without ant reason. after calls, before calls..
it's not wake up and it's show a blank screen. after few soft reset and battery replacement is wake up and work fine till the next time.
for now , I'm work with doppod original rom wm5 but no WIFI.
I think it started last week when I installs "B&B 5.0 love" rom, before that It work fine with pdviet manila2D.
problem upgrade my rom
I'm now have a O2 UK roms on my device.
I try update it to Touch 4.02, with the UPSL but it no working.
the bar with percents jump from 0% to 100% in sec. and I still having the same rom.
I read the uspl guide.
can yo uhelp me ?
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
bobybravo said:
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
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Thx, I'll try that. However, even when the sd card is removed the crashes occur.
Just had another crash....connected via usb to my pc: after 5 secs screen faded to black. I had to soft reset. After that some 'invisible window' was blocking the start menu. Closed it (via the close button top right) and got the start menu again. Re-connected to usb and is ok until now....
I also see 173mA of drain.
I had the same problem.............and i change back to the original swedish wm6 rom and it was better for a couple of days, then got worse started to freze fade out until one day it "died" now i can only get into bootloader but cant boot any roms not the original swedish rom (wm6) or any other rom, in boot loader it only says IPL 3.13.0001 SPL 3.13.0001 no gsm or other stuff but when conected to USB it says usb, I tried the SD flash to but no good so my sugestion it that u see to that ur device is "open spl" if it take the same route that mine did.
(i change to a brand new battery when the problem where starting but taht didnt help.....)
I guess now as i understand it my only hope is to find the original shiped rom wm 5 swedish rom?! and try if that will flash onto my device.
i hope u dont get the same problem as me.
Only problems, no solutions...
Mine (p3300; Black&Blue v5) got a new Battery, new SD-Card. Did´nt help. I removed the SD, removed SIM, loaded the battery, then turned it on again and from now on it´s sometimes booting, sometimes not. If it´s booted up (after long time lying with removed battery) it doesn´t live long enough to flash it with another (old) rom.
Now it´s lying next to me, with all this expensive accesoires, doesn´t talk to me and say what the problem is. My Provider called me and asked if I want a new one.
Again HTC? I love the functions of WM...
I have the same problem with my Dopod M700 (Love)
But mine doesn't freeze it just auto soft reset itself... i don't know whats going on... somebody please help.
Changing to different ROM doesn't solve the problems... put back the original factory ROM also doesn't help.
Here still the same problem.
I've upgraded the radio to 03.21.90: now WIFI isn't working anymore and the phone still 'crashes'. I'll change it to 03.18.90 and see what happens.
I've emptied the battery several times (until bootloader switches off) and recharged with the original AC adapter. Did a hard reset on battery 100%: problem remains.
There are several threads with the same problem. I didn't find an answer, exept maybe to replace the motherboard.
I really wonder if there's anyone who knows what is causing the problem.
It could be the graphics card (screen fading) or the battery/charge chip...no idea.
I've also noticed that when a crash occurs, it often takes some time until it boots again, as if the Artemis needs to 'cool down'.
System Crash
PeteNewt said:
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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I'm having exactly the same problem which happened after I upgrade from Artemis love 32 to 33.
I have tried everything mentioned here, changed th Rom 5 times, went back to the Ship Rom, but the system keep on crashing.This is the second time this is happening to my Artemis. The solution at the first time was replacing the motherboard and nothing else, as it has worked fine after that.
I posted my problem in another thread here but no solution yet. Four days back and after I got enough with it, I took my Artemis to the HTC work shop and they told me that they couldn't find the reason for the crash, and the only way to solve the problem is to replace the motherboard which will cost me too much.
Strange it happens to several phones, and more or less in the same way.
I've changed my Rom to B&B 5.0 now. Still same problem.
Wifi isn't working at all anymore: tried several radio versions, none brings back the wifi. Is this the end of my Artemis?
Me 2
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
Maart84 said:
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
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I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
So...installed B&B 5.0 (thx Tom ).
I did several complete 'battery charging cycles'.
I formatted my SDHC card.
It seems to me that it crashes less now (only once yesterday, not yet today).
Wifi seems to be definitly gone.
It probably isn't SW-related, but why would it crash less now than before?
I think that the most probable cause would be the chip that handles the battery status.
Let's hope that the chip somehow got resetted with the charging cycles.
No luck....it crashed all the time yesterday.
It seems that it happens more often when it is in my pocket (temperature related?).
When it lies on the cupboard it seems that it stays ok...again very strange.
Also while charging the battery status was 48%. I removed the charger and the status jumped to 100% :s.
Does anyone know how much it costs to have the MB replaced?
MDA Compact III
Hi!
I had the same promlem with my MDA Compact III!
I think it's a hardware problem. I tried so many roms, original, and cooked too... change the battery, clean the motherboard, but didn't help.
I was nervous, take out the battery for 5sec then reinstall it and took it in the refrigerator (NOT IN THE FREEZER!!!) for about 10minutes!
The result: don't crash about 1 hour!
So i took it back for 1day. And now, it works 2weeks continously, with no crash.
But unfortunately the battery (also the new one) holds the charge only 1day.
ElVikin said:
I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
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Same problem here. I called HTC, they picked up my device, replaced the inside (motherboard) I guess because my device has a different IMEI number now. Very quick service, within one week my device was at my desk again.
I had similar problems.
had my HTC repaired (new MB)
problems remained the same.
after two repairs I received a new device and even that did not solve my problems.
Up till I bought a new battery
now he is working perfect again!
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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just get a new battery and it hopefully will do...it solved my problems...first time i hat the issue....right now i'm having it again...and it seems like the battery
you say it stays like that or 2 days...try running some heavy apps like igo or something other which is memory and battery consuming..it will probably crash..if it does...i'm 95% sure it's the battery
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
velhote said:
Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
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Thanks for replying, it seems that the problem has fixed itself. i put it in the original charger for about 3 or 4 days. it still crashed a couple times just reset with the charger connected put it back. i now just disconnect it from changer (2 days) (after 3 or 4 days in the charger) without any crash. runned tomtom for couple or houres?
i also turned the phone function off and removed the simcard.
hopefully it will keep running and then i gonna try to put my simcard back in.
Thanks
Fill
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Ok it crashed already again
Hey Guys. From time to time my HTC TP2 is just dying in the standbymodus!?
If i try to press all buttons - nothing happen until reseting the device. Whats that? Is there any fix for it??
Yesterday i did a hardreset. NOW, it happend again.
I also just made a thread on my phone locking up here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610785
Is that the same problem you're having?