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Qwest HTC mogul to Sprint Switch

I have been working on changing from a very poor provider to a better one and want to use my very expensive Mogul on the sprint network. I have been wondering around the web for infomation but most of the steps unclear. Do i need to unlock the phone and flash the sprint rom, relock the phone and get sprint to accept the new esn? I think that is what has been said but not sure.
can anyone help?

Alltel-Verizon Merger Rom Question...

My wife and I both currently have HTC Vogues from Alltel running NFSFAN's v6.5 rom and I was curious if we should now, or if not now then when, flash to the Verizon version of a rom due to the Alltel-Verizon merger.
Thanks in advance for your responses...

Maybe wait till its the "new" Verizon?
But really, you should wait till someone more experienced comes by. After all, I am a Canadian user.

Stick with Alltel ROM's for now. They have not completely merged their PRL's and won't completely be integrated for another 6-12 months. Verizon had to sell off some of Alltel and they recently swapped some former Alltel territories with Att due to antitrust regulations so Alltel phones and Verizon phones continue to be slightly different. The only full integration they've done is their billing systems. Hope this helps

if you flash to verizon, you will get billed as if you have a pay as you go plan.
If you go in or call in and fully switch to verizon,
then you can go ahead and flash to verizon no problem.
But if you haven't switched to verizon,
which you personally have to call in and switch over,
which is basically resign a 2 year contract with them.
Not even sure if you can go into the store or not.

info on verizon alltel Merger
You should only switch to Verizon ROM until after your Market transitions into Verizon, Currently there are only a couple of Markets that have transitioned. Keep your Plan if you are happy with it. Remember that if you change to Verizon willingly they Can charge you for overages on DATA. Since you have a custom Rom already you don't have to worry about it anyway since that has already been " FIXED" but As a Alltel user myself I would recommend that you only change to a Verizon rom until the User name and password change to [email protected] as opposed to [email protected]. You have an open based rom and unlocked phone so its the same thing. You should look out for NEW prls out there, currently 40049 is the most current, there will be more coming out real soon that will allow better usage of the Verizon Network, full data coverage as opposed to voice and some data only. Hope this helps

Cricket Questions

Hi all..
I have found and read the instructions as it relates to flashign a phone to cricket... I am an old GSM guy here, not too familiar with CDMA things... But Cricket is runnign a special this weekend where it is only $25 a month for unlimited talk & txt.. I think this would be great for my son as a cheap cell phone.. Here are my questions:
Would Cricket need to know that I flashed a phone from another carrier?
Do I need ot buy one of their phones in the first place?
Anyone who has done this in the past, I would value your input.... I am just a little lost here on this.. thanks

In CDMA technologies, the user account gets compared to the ESN of the phone that you are trying to use. Lets say that you programmed your phone (MIN, MDN, flashed PRL, etc). The tower will see all the settings from your account and it will look at the ESN as well, if all this information matches to what they have on the records, you will have no problem in using this phone with Cricket.
Why am I saying this? Because, you will have to let them know about the ESN of your new device. They need to add it to their database and under your account as well for you to be able to use it. I know that MetroPCS charges you ~$50 to do this, I am not certain about Cricket though. You may want to call them up and ask if you can have your Vogue flashed over to their system. I have read countless threads of people having flashed their Vogues to Cricket, so I guess it is possible.
Good luck!

Thanks for the reply...
Here is the issue (or question).. I live in a new "triband only" cricket market (Chicago/Milwaukee area).. I have read that, to work, the phone needs to use the 1700AWS frequency... I know in the "old" cricket areas you don;t need this... Will the Vogue work here? Sorry for all the questions.. I just don;t want to buy the phone and then not be able to use it...

According to the specs, the Vogue is only dual band (800 and 1900 MHz). You can see them here. If that is the case, then you might not be able to use it. Just check with them to be on the safe side. You can also look for people on the Cricket network on other forums and see if someone is using this device in the Chicago area. Good luck!

not sure about your city/are specifically but in Austin TX i was able to take a HTC Vogue (Sprint Touch) and fully flash it over. Phone, SMS, MMS, Data, Tethering, and I even found a guide for GPS (have not tried yet).
All works fine. They only issue I really have is that the DATA seems kinda crap at times. It says its at full EVDO/3G but sometimes i have to perform a manual disconnect/reconnect to jumpstart data again.
When I flash to a "non cricket" rom though I lose Tethering ability. Trying to find a guide on the settings myself so I can go back to NSFans 6.5 ROM.

Sorry for the bad news. Unfortunately there are no HTC phones available at this time that you can flash and have work in the Chicago area. That area is a AWS 1700 MHZ market and there are no CDMA HTC devices that support that technology. I would recommend that you purchase a cricket branded phone. If you are looking for a Windows phone take a look at Metro's line up. They have a Samsung that is tri band and WM powered. Also crickets new phone that is PDA like will be out tomorrow at cricKet Corp stores.

Need Help Getting Sprint Network on Verizon Note 2

Okay, I'm sure the information is all out there, so before I get told to search forums or google, I have. My issue is that I'm just having the hardest time putting all the scattered information together and understanding it. There's too much information to decipher whats needed, accurate andd up to date for my situation. So I was wondering if someone whose done this before could just give me the straight to guide.
I have verizon, my girlfriend has sprint. She broke her S4. I have an old verizon note 2 that is unlocked, rooted, custom recovery and on CM11.
What I need to do is get it on the sprint network and get her service switched over to it.
I know it has something to do with APN settings, but there's so many different ones whether it's for internet and MMS. I basically just want her to be able to use it to make phone calls and maybe regular texts. I got all confused when I saw things dealing with PRL and what not, so I don't actually know which things I need to make this work.
I put the sim card from her S4 into my Verizon note 2 and opened the access point settings under mobile network. There are a bunch of sprint ones in there now, I don't know which one to choose. I tried the one just labeled "Sprint" and then rebooted to get the APN settings to switch over but I still have no service to try and activate the phone.
So could someone please give me a simplified walk-through of putting in sprint's settings on a verizon note 2. I tried flashing a Sprint CM11 rom but it failed. So now i am going to try flashing a sprint touchwiz rom to see if that will make all the necessary changes for me.
Update: I Just finished flashing jellybomb touchwiz rom, it flashed but wont get into the phone setup, says there's an encryption error and the phone needs to be reset. I did that and it still does the same.
Thanks in advance guys, I've flashed a lot of roms, I've just never switched my phone to another carrier before.

You can't activate a non Sprint branded phone on the Sprint network. Period. The esn is not in the Sprint database and even if you wanted to use the phone strictly for traveling internationally, The sim card from Sprint will not work in the Verizon phone for the same reason. You'd have to "clone" the phone/esn and that is completely illegal. I would spend my time on craigslist or Facebook and try to trade your Verizon phone for a Sprint one. That's what I would do.
FYI . Verizon phones are actually in demand due to the much larger customer base so making a trade for a Sprint S4 or Note 2 should be fairly easy. But MAKE SURE you check the ESN with Sprint before making a trade because a blacklisted esn phone can NOT be activated and you will be SOL.

So only networks like at&t and T-mobile will work on my Unlocked verizon phone?

TruEastSydeBoi said:
So only networks like at&t and T-mobile will work on my Unlocked verizon phone?
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If you're referring to your Verizon phone being a "world phone" which does in fact have a sim card and gsm network capabilities, then technically yes it would perhaps be possible to get it to work on AT&T or T-Mobile onl;y but it would be very difficult and time consuming to unlock the sim portion of the Verizon phone and hack it so that it would not be rejected by either network due to the ESN. You'd have better luck trying T-Mobile because they seem to be more lax with unbranded iPhones etc on their network. But in all honesty you would be better off trading your Verizon phone especially if it has a clear esn and getting a phone that's ready to go with no headaches and fully functional on the network.

thanks for the replies

Unlocked Sprint S6 on Verizon?

I have an unlocked Sprint Samsung S6 and I'm trying to get it to work on Verizon but it doesn't want to work. It shows an exclamation and R where the signal bars are. I have tried setting up the APN and a Verizon rep put the sprint phone in their system, but that didn't work either. Is there any way to get this to work? Do u have to flash Verizon's Rom to it? I noticed that even unlocked it still seems to have the sprint activation stuff..... Please help, scoured the Internet and forums to no avail :/

If you actually got the phone activated onto your line on Verizon, you will need the Verizon PRL on the device for it to show it connected natively to its towers (the 'R' is a roaming indicator...your device is seeing the Verizon towers as roaming since it loaded with a tower list with Sprint towers prioritized). Verizon is still CDMA, so you will need the proper PRL flashed to the phone for it to work, first & foremost, along with your NAM information and all of the Verizon data settings flashed in place of the Sprint data settings. With regard to CDMA switching from Sprint/Sprint-based to Verizon/Verizon-based, there is more to it than merely an ESN swap (activation by an agent) & inserting a SIM.
I am not here to hold your hand through the flashing of anything, but I'm letting you know what will need to be done. These phones have different model numbers for a reason (unlike "hybrids" like newer Nexus devices, newer iPhones & the recently released Moto X Pure). These different models are designated per carrier and the bundled carrier software for many CDMA devices is used in its OTA programming. Sprint devices typically are packed with MSL/SPCs unique to the device and needed to edit the internal NAM & data settings while Verizon branded counterparts have 0s instead of uniques codes. If this is all over your head, you may need to seek the assistance of someone or a company familiar with flashing to get you going if you are hellbent on using THAT device. Good luck.

worked for me but not stable
I also have the s note 5 from sprint and been trying to make it work on verizon. After so many tries in the mobile network setting i got it to partially work. it still have the R symbols on top, which shows your roaming but you will get a 3g speed. My current setting is
Settings>Mobile Networks>Network mode >automatic
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>Roaming network>automatic
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>Roaming guard> all off
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>everything else on
you also have to use the verizon app settings.
i've also tried flashing the prl but had no luck. Any suggestion on how will be appreciated.

So, how about an idiot's guide for making this happen?
If I need help from a vendor, how about posting some referrals, what needs to be done, and how much is fair to pay?
I am a self-professed newb and I just want to take the Sprint S6 that I own outright to Verizon.
Especially because I paid full price for the S6, and Sprint's service sucks inside my building.
Thanks .

What VicFreeze said above is 100% correct, you would have to reprogram/flash the phones CDMA chip/radio and even Verizon will not be able to do so (legally or maybe not smart enough to know how), you want to be on Verizon you need to get one of their phones. Your phone is a G920P, the P is specific to Sprint and the phone has been flashed internally to know the MIED, MDM/MIN, PRL and login passwords for their networks along with the MSL Code direct from the Samsung factory just for Sprint.
So Yeah you can change all this by reprogramming the CDMA chip inside the phone, first you need professional software that will cost $$$ hundreds of dollars, software like CDMA workshop, QPST or DFS will work, learning to use this software is not for newbies, you will also need to get the information from Verizon to flash their carrier specific codes and numbers into the phone, it's not like swapping out your SIM Card like a GSM Phone and your on a different network, this is CDMA and its why Sprint/Verizon use this, its to lock you down. (no, that's not why)(LOL)
Just Google "Carrier programming on CDMA phones"..
I think it would be cheaper to sell your Sprint phone and just get a Verizon phone and save yourself a lot of hassle. Get a G920V, its already flashed with Verizon Codes to access their LTE Network from the Samsung factory (Hence the V is specific for Verizon). Verizon's sales staff might not even know what a CDMA phone is so would you really want them to reprogram it??

dagreek05 said:
I have an unlocked Sprint Samsung S6 and I'm trying to get it to work on Verizon but it doesn't want to work. It shows an exclamation and R where the signal bars are. Is there any way to get this to work? Do u have to flash Verizon's Rom to it? I noticed that even unlocked it still seems to have the sprint activation stuff..... Please help, scoured the Internet and forums to no avail :/
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VicFreeze and MindTricks sound dead on in there advice. One thing I am pretty sure about unless someone corrects me is .... even though Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA, they operate on different frequency bands which is probably why your getting the 'R' for roaming. CDMA Workshop has the ability to change the radio frequency. I think the two companies also encrypt or code their voice and data traffic and you need the software flashed that has their specific decoders or encryption software for the device to work on their system. I am not sure if the specific radio software changes any of this or not. I am not even sure is CDMA Workshop is compatible with newer Samsung phones now as two years ago I programmed my Sprint HTC EVO 4g to work on my Virgin Mobile talk and text plan without much trouble but have not been able to get CDMA Workshop to connect to a Galaxy Grand Prime as of late. What I did two years ago was easier since Virgin runs off of Sprint Service Towers. Having a ROM compiled for Verizon may help but things have changed. What I did with the EVO two years ago ..... the ROM had Sprint radio files compiled with it. I am not sure if some of those files are separated in the system now on more modern devices as ..... back two years ago Sprint was EVDO and not their LTE uses a SIM card to work. So, things have changed and keep changing and evolving. One thing is sure, is almost every year Service Providers along with device manufacturers are changing what they do and how they do it.
tt c6 said:
So, how about an idiot's guide for making this happen?
I just want to take the Sprint S6 that I own outright to Verizon.
Especially because I paid full price for the S6, and Sprint's service sucks inside my building.
Thanks .
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That's what everyone would love to do but at times proves more hassle than what it is worth. this is why there are sites like Swappa and eBay where you can sell your phone for close to competitive price and pick one up a device that is a comparable condition for the service provider you want to swich to for about a break even price or not much more out of pocket.

I dunno if this thread is dead but process should go something like this.... flash factory binary firmware checking "auto-reboot, nand erase, and F.reset" options. Once it boots enable developer options and oem unlock and usb debugging (then do a factory reset from settings menu). Then you can flash the CSC from Verizon stock. Placing VZW .pit file in appropriate section. Then you can flash the BL,AP,CP files from VZW rom. Personally....this seems like alot of unnecessary work with a great chance for missing something. Might be better to root sprint device and manually install vzw modem files, apns.conf, prl, telephony.db.....better yet why not just flash a custom rom from twrp. thats just one zip file in twrp.

I don't know what I've done differently, but I currently have and use without any problems a Sprint G920P on the nations most reliable network… Verizon. I can tell you that I didn't have to jump through all or any of the hoops that others in this post have outlined. I will tell you what I did ; Flashed G920p with Bigdaddy PL3 Aroma V1.x ,TWRP-3.2.1.0, SuperSu-v2.82, and 3.10.61_Stock_Modified_Kernel_By_Aurora_Rom [email protected]#1. Phone has been unlocked by Idonne apps. I believe that last bit has a lot to do with my success. there is a setting in his app if the phone is to be used on a CDMA network or a GSM network. And not to discredit the person that discouraged you from having a Verizon employee help you but it was he that figured out how to make Verizons system find my phone. Not sure exactly what he did but I saw him take his company phone out of his pocket and scan the sticker on the back of it into the system saying "we will just make the system recognize it". Voila, worked perfectly and continues to operate without flaw on their network. I do get a roam "R", but checking settings indicates that I am not roaming. I live on the border to Canada so it is to be expected, but not the case. As far as Network, device says Preferred Network instead of Verizon. It could say your name for all I care as long as it works! Hope this sheds some light on it for you without having to make all of those unnecessary changes. One last note.... the salesman did say that mine is the first Sprint Device that he has seen on their network.... I guess that makes me special huh? Lol...