I went to go see the T-mobile version today at a store in Tacoma... AND I LOVE THE PHONE!
I'm definitely waiting until August 12th (which is the now rumored release date).
It is everything that I thought it would be.
But here are some impressions for those of you interested in the T-mobile USA version:
1. No chrome- thankfully this did not kill the sex appeal. I think that the phone is the sexiest phone I have ever seen. The look is not inferior to the International version, just different.
2. It is a speed demon! Whatever ROM it is running is even faster than the international version (from what I have seen in video reviews) and everything is very fluid.
3. The keyboard is perfect. Enough said.
4. The guy who owned the phone said that the release date is supposed to be mid-to-late August. Though I'm betting on August 12th.
5. Any questions, ask away. I'm very excited for the release of this phone.
Did T-Mo keep the second camera on this phone, is it full of bloat-ware, and lastly did they destroy any of what we love about the phones capabilities.
i have a german t-mobile vario 5 and i can say hardware is exactly the same so YES front camera is there too!
there is some software like web n walk and some other t-mobile software but its not that bloated.
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i have a german t-mobile vario 5 and i can say hardware is exactly the same so YES front camera is there too!
there is some software like web n walk and some other t-mobile software but its not that bloated.
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I'm sorry. I was asking that question assuming the author was referring to T-Mobile USA. I know it's not out yet in US for customers, but there are some T-Mo employees that have demo versions of the phone. I thought this person was one of them.
I have the Tmo version , great phone I must say, ive had a couple of problems though
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I have the Tmo version , great phone I must say, ive had a couple of problems though
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Can you give details? What kind of problems?
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Can you give details? What kind of problems?
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For some reason the Music player on Touchflo3d cannot read my memory card. I have an 8gb card, with around 1100 songs and it takes forever to load. After about 5 mins, it might show the songs, I click a song, it lags to play, then it plays, I try to change the track and it freezes.
Do we know yet which 3G frequencies the USA version of this phone will support? i.e. will it only work on the US networks, or be a proper 'world standard' phones that will work on all the UK 3G networks as well as the US ones?
Andre
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Do we know yet which 3G frequencies the USA version of this phone will support? i.e. will it only work on the US networks, or be a proper 'world standard' phones that will work on all the UK 3G networks as well as the US ones?
Andre
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I believe that it supports international EDGE bands.
However, it only supports T-mobile 3G. No AT&T nor European 3G I think.
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I have the Tmo version , great phone I must say, ive had a couple of problems though
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high quality pics please? the buttons still look terrible in all the photos ive seen compared to generic.
The tmobile touch pro 2 is pretty nice, altough i noticed its a bit thicker than the original altough its a matter of like 2 millimeters lol
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1. No chrome- thankfully this did not kill the sex appeal. I think that the phone is the sexiest phone I have ever seen. The look is not inferior to the International version, just different.
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I'm glad there's no chrome, personally. I plan to own the device for a long time, and with my luck the chrome would crack before I grew tired of the device. But from the one shot I've seen of it on a TmoUSA promo it's my least favorite looking of all the versions. I'd have to go digging around, but I think either the Sprint or Verizon was my favorite looking device.
Fortunately, appearances are the least important factor in my buying decision, because I'll probably end up on TMobile's network before I even get the phone.
The guy who has it name is Young.
If you don't like the looks of the phone, you can always get a gel skin. You can also order replacement exterior pieces online and just have someone take the phone apart and put the new parts on.
It is so bloody annoying that the TP2 is coming out everywhere on t mobile (in the US and mainland Europe) except in the UK. The rumour that it failed testing in the UK can't be right, as it appears to have passed testing everywhere else. Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that t mobile in the UK is being sold off and that it can't afford too many new launches of products.
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6th Ave. The one by LA Fitness.
The guy who has it name is Young.
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It must be lucky to get a touch pro 2 before it comes out, i wish i had one
If anyone wants to see some decent photos of the T-mobile USA TP2 go here.
ARE YOU LOOKIN FOR THIS http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v633/soklean69/?action=view¤t=IMG_1019.jpg
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ARE YOU LOOKIN FOR THIS http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v633/soklean69/?action=view¤t=IMG_1019.jpg
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ARE YOU LOOKIN FOR THIS http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v633/soklean69/?action=view¤t=IMG_1019.jpg
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hey a myfaves tab in touchflo
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i am in biggest battle of my life! heres the issue. im very interested in buying the touch pro 2 and as of right now am without a phone since i sold my htc fuze. now, the touch pro 2 looks good but i see its coming out to the Americas. now the only difference i see is the 3g and let me add that i have tmobile and dont have internet on my phone so 3g really isnt much of a factor. the tmobile version really dosent look that great compared to the original chrome version. and another issue....the htc hero.. in your opinions what would be my best choice. buy the phone now? euro version? wait till a branded version comes out but apart from 3g what else would be better with that? or wait till the htc hero comes out? another detail money isn't the issue in any of this Lol
I feel your pain...
I just went throught the same thing... I'm on ATT... see my post... I pulled the trigger on the Touch Pro 2... it wouldn't run on 3G... it didn't come with Voice Command... those two are deal killers for me... I use heavy data apps on my phone... I can't go back to 2G just for the sake of having the phone. I'll wait until ATT branded phone comes out... in the meantime (when I get my money back) I'm going to get a Apple I-Phone... If you are not heavy into speed.. then ok, if so, dont do it... its a horrible let down. the people selling the phone don't tell you the deal breaking details, they hope you will just live with it... NOT ME.. Len
TP2 is 3G in the UK, how come T-Mobile have removed it for the US?
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If this is the biggest battle of your life, you've had a very easy life so far!
one benefit of buying it local is getting hardware issues fixed under warranty...
Before I purchased the TP2 I realised it wasnt going to be released in Australia for a while. I also realised that if I wanted the phone now, I'd need to order from overseas. It crossed my mind: what if there are issues with the phone. I dismissed those after I realised I had owned several HTC phones in the past and they were all fine.
I found myself with a faulty screen after getting my TP2 from Singapore. I contacted HTC, and its going to cost about 10% of the device's cost to send it off for repair via FedEx!
I'm a bit hesitant to send the thing off. I dunno how long I can live without it!
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TP2 is 3G in the UK, how come T-Mobile have removed it for the US?
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omg seriously?? have you even TRIED to look around this forum and read some of the posts?
THE EUROPEAN MODEL OF THE TOUCH PRO 2 DOES NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY BANDS TO SUPPORT 3G IN THE US.
ALL OF THE US CARRIERS WILL BE GETTING THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE MODEL OF THE TP2, WITH T-MO PROBABLY BEING THE FIRST. THEIRS WILL BE COMING OUT AROUND MID-AUGUST. AUGUST 12.
it's not that they removed it. they never made a European model that supported US 3G in the first place.
next time, before you ask a question like that, READ. PLEASE.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/17/htc-touch-pro2-calls-dibs-on-3-5mm-audio-jack-for-telus-and-veri/
I'm mildly annoyed!
Also interesting to see the call/end call buttons are red and green as opposed to white
Wtf....... I want!
** JEALOUS **
yeah those phones are for a canadian provider.
If they changed that, I'm guessing if they changed anything else on the phone. I would hate it if within 3 weeks there would be a TP2 revision......
The AT&T version needs this.
haha thanks god I waited
Hell yes!!! I called it!!! Yes, I'm bragging, but so what.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3637228&postcount=43
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Are you canadian?
EDIT: Maybe the firmware update will suddenly transform the phone and the 3,5 jack will suddenly appear........ Just woke up from my daydream
Also interesting this phone will be a WorldPhone, so CDMA+GSM.
I'm very curious as to what this imply since Telus will be launching a HSDPA network very soon in anticipation of the olympics int Canada.
Anybody know what this imply for the Custom Roms down the road?
Usually there`s seperate ROM for CDMA and GSM, will there be a need for a third type of ROM for Worldphones? Was there any other device in the past that could do both?
I'm keeping a very close eye on all the TP2 that will have US3G since I'd like to upgrade my TP that is sadly lacking 3G in North America =/.
Thanks to anyone that can answer!
Wow, sounds perfect! If it'll work on UK 3G networks too, I want one!
Andre
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But i dont see anything about this being Unlocked.
I'm confused....I've got one of these but returned it twice, will this be available in the UK? Should I cancel my order and get one of these instead? Will it be available from Mobile Phones Direct?
A prompt response would be awesome as I'm supposed to be picking up another replacement tomorrow morning.
Cheers,
DJ
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Also interesting this phone will be a WorldPhone, so CDMA+GSM.
I'm very curious as to what this imply since Telus will be launching a HSDPA network very soon in anticipation of the olympics int Canada.
Anybody know what this imply for the Custom Roms down the road?
Usually there`s seperate ROM for CDMA and GSM, will there be a need for a third type of ROM for Worldphones? Was there any other device in the past that could do both?
I'm keeping a very close eye on all the TP2 that will have US3G since I'd like to upgrade my TP that is sadly lacking 3G in North America =/.
Thanks to anyone that can answer!
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I'm not totally sure, but I think I read somewhere that this would only work with European 3G bands and not US. I'm not sure though. Hopefully that's wrong.
yes so excited. i'v been waitting for the verizon tp2 .. and now i here about this great news.. this is so awsome. i was thinking about that the other day.. about the adapter for the 3.5mm headphone jack... i dont have to worry about a adapter anymore..
wonder if the GSM phones will be able to be modified to accept the 3.5MM bottom piece.
unlikely, but plausable. it would not have been financially feasible to make dramatic design changes for a niche market (CDMA)
I love this news! HTC just might be listening to its customers after all.
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wonder if the GSM phones will be able to be modified to accept the 3.5MM bottom piece.
unlikely, but plausable. it would not have been financially feasible to make dramatic design changes for a niche market (CDMA)
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dont see how that is possible without modifying the case itself and opening up the device.. dont think its worth it to me for as little as im going to use headphones.
This is gonna be a pain for active car kit makers with two different physical layouts to deal with.
Will the T-Mobile USA one have it?
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Will the T-Mobile USA one have it?
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I currently have an iPhone 3Gs which I like but the Touch2 is looking pretty nice. I'm thinking of leaving AT&T and going with the Touch2 using Verizon. Most of the ROMs I have seen here are for T-Mobile, my question is - can they be used on a Verizon phone? I have a couple of more questions if you don't mind:
1. Since I may be getting a new Touch2 - would it be wise to upgrade WM6.1 to 6.5 right off the bat - before even adding contacts, etc?
2. Can the Verizon version be update to 6.5 and is it safe and stable?
3. Which ROM would you recommend using? I'd rather have speed than 'pretty'.
I'm new to this and did not even know ROMs were available since the iPhone does not use one.
Thanks all,
MasterJack
BTW, I did a search for Verizon but not much came up.
1. No 6.5 for VZ out yet
2. Once 6.5 is officially released or HSPL becomes available
3. No HSPL out for VZ yet, so no custom ROMs
Bummer - sounds like I'm S.O.L. for now - maybe I'll just keep my iPhone until 6.5 and ROMs are available..... thank you.
you will be able to update it to 6.5 and use custom roms eventually, but not yet. just install windows phone on the phone and sync your contacts with it and when you instal a new rom you can sync them back onto the phone, pictures, ringtones, anything you put in their info. also, check sprint a lot cheaper monly plan, with the lowest minutes its $70/month on verizon (they make you get data). The Sprint Touch Pro2 should be around the T-Mobile ($150) / Verizon ($200) price range when its for sale in stores (10/11) and online through other retailers.
btw, some guy on my local craigslist will give u his tmobile touch pro2 for ur iphone if ur near chicago.
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you will be able to update it to 6.5 and use custom roms eventually, but not yet. just install windows phone on the phone and sync your contacts with it and when you instal a new rom you can sync them back onto the phone, pictures, ringtones, anything you put in their info. also, check sprint a lot cheaper monly plan, with the lowest minutes its $70/month on verizon (they make you get data). The Sprint Touch Pro2 should be around the T-Mobile ($150) / Verizon ($200) price range when its for sale in stores (10/11) and online through other retailers.
btw, some guy on my local craigslist will give u his tmobile touch pro2 for ur iphone if ur near chicago.
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Thanks for your reply. I have never checked out Sprint - how is their coverage compared to Verizon? How does the TP2 Sprint compare to the TP2 Verizoin - hardware-wise?
Hardware wise they are the same. As for coverage, go to each of their sites and click "coverage map". There is a link right on their front pages.
How about the AT&T version due out soon - would it be wise to wait for that one or go with Verizon's version? Will AT&T's version be any better?
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How about the AT&T version due out soon - would it be wise to wait for that one or go with Verizon's version? Will AT&T's version be any better?
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There is speculation that the AT&T version will ship with WM 6.5... Other then that, the only real difference is in the Carrier. Verizon is CDMA - mostly North America Service - Has an international option for GSM. AT&T will be GSM standard and will also allow for custom ROM's...
I have used Verizon and AT&T for work and Verizon seems like the better network in the US. I am personally waiting for the AT&T version.. (Same carrier I am on now.)
Why the desire for 6.5 so bad? Not much is different.
The stock ROM on the Verizon version is surprisingly good. Unless there is earth shattering improvements I doubt I'll flash it at this point.
No matter what, out of the box, this phone blows the iphone away!
Just finally took a look at one today at a T-Mobile store. Very nice unit - not as reponsive as my iPhone but it makes up in many other areas. I just saw that AT&T will have one soon - what's the advantage of that one over let's say Verizon? I just got my 3Gs a couple of months ago so I would have to break my contract with AT&T to get one - weather I get one from them (just break it and re-sign up if I can) or go with Verizon. My thought is that Verizon has better coverage here in Houston.
What about the Samsung Omnia II - seems very nice - which carriers will carry it?
Thx,
MasterJack
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Why the desire for 6.5 so bad? Not much is different.
The stock ROM on the Verizon version is surprisingly good. Unless there is earth shattering improvements I doubt I'll flash it at this point.
No matter what, out of the box, this phone blows the iphone away!
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Agreed, with GPS working and the stock ROM running well (for me) I'll wait for official 6.5 (as it is better than the HTC TouchFlo interface IMO). Though I am sure once it is cracked I won't be able to resist, but it is saying something that that I am not dying to upgrade it. As an old Touch and Touch Pro user this stock experience isn't even in the same league.
So if I go with the Verizon version - you recommend no changing anything? Just leave it alone until 6.5 comes out?
What's good site to learn about what's new with 6.5 as it relates to this phone?
Thx,
MasterJack
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So if I go with the Verizon version - you recommend no changing anything? Just leave it alone until 6.5 comes out?
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You really don't have a choice with the Version Phone.. You can not add new ROM's until somene creates a HARD SPL for the CDMA phones. Once that is created, it provides the ability to make changes to the base OS.
I really dont like AT&T. I have gone back to them on 2 different occasions and left becuase of the same issues. There are days where they work great. There are other days where in areas you had full signal in, you will drop a call or be searching for service. AT&T's network just isnt as mature as Verizons. I have traveled all over the US for work and verizon is always the best.
One thing i am going to add....The only thing that is nice about AT&T is there handset freedom. But they are even managing to take that away from there clients.
I agree on the service area... Verizon's network is the best in the US...
I have moved my company to AT&T for two reasons... They used to get hardware out before anyone else (Tilt) and I can use the phones in Europe and Mexico with out issue. (Verizon works in Mexico but is expensive).
this is out for verizon right? i got it for tmobile and i love it so since my gf is looking for a new phone i will recommend it even tho she wants a black berry
Haven't been to this website in a while ... Been using an iPhone for about a year .. Tried some of the [supposed] iPhone killers. Xperia and others, but I didn't like them. I have this phone coming tomorrow ..
HTC TOUCH PRO2 II UNLOCKED T7373
Am I in the right place ?? HTC has so many phones. This one that I am getting is the European model, 2 cameras .. I was due for a free upgrade from Tmobile but that phone looked awful compared to this version .. Are the models different ? I don't think Tmobile has to cameras, I don't need 2 but if I can have 2, I want them.
Diane
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Haven't been to this website in a while ... Been using an iPhone for about a year .. Tried some of the [supposed] iPhone killers. Xperia and others, but I didn't like them. I have this phone coming tomorrow ..
HTC TOUCH PRO2 II UNLOCKED T7373
Am I in the right place ?? HTC has so many phones. This one that I am getting is the European model, 2 cameras .. I was due for a free upgrade from Tmobile but that phone looked awful compared to this version .. Are the models different ? I don't think Tmobile has to cameras, I don't need 2 but if I can have 2, I want them.
Diane
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Hi Diane,
The model you got (unlocked unbranded HTC TP2) will work here in the states, but I don't believe that you will be able to use T-mobile's 3G bands on it, so your data would only be EDGE (i.e. slower). Unless I'm mistaken, Tmo is the ONLY carrier in the world that uses their specific 3G bands, so unless you buy a phone branded by T-mobile, odds are you won't get 3G with it.
Now as far as the dual cameras....that's another thing that no US carrier has implemented, yet. The phone may have the camera, but if the provider you're using doesn't have that capability setup on their network, it's not much good to you I'm afraid. I believe I've seen some upcoming models for AT&T that advertise a front camera, so I believe they're about to introduce that capability...but as for now, none of the carriers here can do that
But yes, you're in the right place....every model of this phone is technically a "HTC Rhodium", no matter what carrier model (or unbranded) it is. So, these are the forums you want to be in, to learn more than you ever wanted to know about your new toy
Thanks for your reply and info. My Tmobile contract is up for renewal on this one. June for the contract that my HTC shift uses... I am wondering if I should renew or just go with ATT .. they seem to have better phones and better service .. anyone agree ??
diane
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Thanks for your reply and info. My Tmobile contract is up for renewal on this one. June for the contract that my HTC shift uses... I am wondering if I should renew or just go with ATT .. they seem to have better phones and better service .. anyone agree ??
diane
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The best people to ask that are the ones that live or work in close proximity to you...it doesn't really mean a hill of beans what anybody's reception is like anywhere but where you'll most often use the phone Find a friend with AT&T and compare coverage with them side-by-side in different places.
Be careful about switching carriers because one or the other seems to get "better phones"...that can change with the wind, and you may find the only one phone you really want, went to the carrier you chose not to go with lol. Also, carriers and manufacturers negotiate new agreements for almost every new phone that gets made, so one carrier may get several great new phones this quarter, but nothing truly decent for months and months, so...just pick your carrier based on your service needs (price, coverage, signal quality, etc), there will always be a way to get a phone you like no matter which you choose.
My service needs are simple. I don't care about 3G. But if I did, Tmobiles is different than anyone elses. I never really use the browser on my phone. I check my eBay auctions on my phone, but not with a browser. My iphone "has an app for that."
What disappoints me most about Tmobile is that not many of the new phones work with Tmobile. iphone doesn't. My iphone cost me about $700 because I had to get it from Italy where it was unlocked by Apple. I bricked my other one. The Blackberry Bold 9000 also wasn't unlocked for Tmobile. And there are others.
Even their website is HORRIBLE .. I have been with them for about 10 years. It is time I stopped waiting for them to get with the program.
Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
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Xiaomi has next to zero compatible US bands. You'll have an awful time on T-Mobile, and I believe the same on AT&T.
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My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything ... They need to remove both of those.
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They just removed that.
Nice. Now they just need to dump their store and go strictly Play Store.
I mean, I agree, but it's not a huge deal. It auto-updates just like the play store does. Worst case scenario you check it once a month after the software update. /shrug
If I was ABSOLUTELY going to get a phone now, and I wasn't getting a pixel, I'd get a Oneplus 9 Pro. It's actually a great device, it just has **** software. Root it, and put a pixel experience ROM on it, and it's damn near identical to the 6 Pro. I actually think I like the hardware/feel of the 9 Pro better, especially in the pine green color.
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Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
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looked at the MI11 Ultra just can't find anywhere to buy one
vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I was like you ,was always a HTC fan ......then they went off the boil over from, them to the essential phone ,which was awesome and massively under rated ,when they didn't survive I moved to the one plus 6t loved it and moved to the one plus 8 pro .....but they seem to be going away from op attraction now ,so now the pixel 6 pro
From a op only things I miss are warp charge alert slider ......unless your a i sheep or Samsunh fan boy then I think it's always going to be jumping to what's best at the time
I did love OnePlus, but they're utterly crappy camera (in the past) had me move away from them. I hear they've greatly improved that. At the end of the day, Samsung probably offers the best all around package with the least agitations for me, currently. They've made great strides in their UI, bloat, and ad invasiveness. They still have a long way to go, though.
I'll hold on to this P6P for a week or so and put it though the ringer. If it doesn't smooth out, I'll just use my 4A 5G until the new line of Samsung's roll out as I've already sold both my S21 and S21+ to family.
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Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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To be a little more clear, the issue comes down to frequencies rather than technology right now. With LTE, all U.S. carriers are using the same standard that the rest of the world uses. Same with 5G. Verizon and Sprint's (now T-Mobile's) CDMA networks will be shut down next year. While Verizon has some limitations on devices on their network, AT&T has actually become far more restrictive.
The real issue is the frequency bands that the carriers use for LTE and 5G. For example, T-Mobile has nationwide LTE and 5G coverage using band 71, but almost no other carriers in the world use it, which means that most phones sold in Europe and Asia won't work on one of T-Mobile's primary bands and T-Mobile customers may not get service without it. Verizon and AT&T just picked up a bunch of C-band spectrum that T-Mobile and much of the world aren't using for 5G. They also have mmWave 5G using bands that aren't widely used outside the U.S. right now as well. Though mmWave is only deployed in a small number of high-density urban areas.
One of the great things about the P6P is that the U.S. model has basically all of the frequencies used in the U.S. and most other countries, including mmWave.
In terms of phones, if you want compatibility with U.S. carriers (particularly T-Mobile on band 71), flagship specs, and the ability to unlock a bootloader and root, you have very few options right now. OnePlus and Google are the big ones, as Samsung locks their bootloaders for models with U.S. frequencies. Asus, Motorola, and Sony have a couple phones that will work as well. This site is a good resource for phones that work with T-Mobile (and often Verizon and AT&T too).
Wow, thank you. Way more informative than my post.
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For sure a good option but I wonder how compatible it is with Verizon or ATT. And I don't think there is a global version available.
Shipping update says I will get it today. Somehow I doubt that but will see. May not get the alternatives but we shall see.
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
Shipoftheline said:
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
Pr20 said:
Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
Shipoftheline said:
Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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We can agree to disagree. There are no salespeople in this forum. And as you can see people have been more than happy to help.