I was hype at first... all this new **** comin from a phone that only made calls/texts, everything goin fine.
Now I feel like I soft reset about 5-10 times a day because randomly it'll start reacting unbelievably slow to anything I do (I don't leave programs open), sometimes it'll start only reading every other touch to the screen but when I soft reset all is well again and might be for a day or 2.. or sometimes I'll hit the top right corner for it to show the couple of programs running so I can close some and it won't come down... I'll hit it 3 times, then it'll go up/down a couple times and close again, I'll literally play with it for 5-10mins just to close out a program..
Then I upgrade to V12, every 2nd or 3rd soft reset it completely resets the ROM.. so I go to V11 (I went from V7 to V12).. and my pocketwit, cetwit, none of them work, kinda annoying just because I make music and have followers so I keep people updated and listening. So now I'm back at V10, and I feel like the overall phone is just slow, especially after playing with other peoples blackberries etc.. it's just lacking in everything.
Real disappointed I got ahead of myself and ordered this phone just because it was free, coulda got an older blackberry for free and probably woulda been a lot happier.. and I don't blame it on age of phone because I think it's about 4-6 months old if that.. my problem I'm betting, is I've dropped it maybe 5-7 good times, it's been in a case all but 1-2 but still.. if that's the case I'm never gonna own another phone with these capabilities.. I will always drop phones..
Now days like this after I re-flashed V10 it's running great, got all my programs installed (to storage unless it needs to be to card) I want to take back what I've said but I'm nervous it'll fall through... my only problem is sometimes its not as responsive as I want it to be on the qwerty keyboard (or any really), ill get out couple words then it'll miss a press or two, but everywhere else no problem, going through programs, all that works fine I never have to press more than once.. is there any setting or something? or is it just the phone
what rom are you using? it is either your rom or opertor. My vogue works just fine.
Try using cleanRAM
NFS rom i use.. the 1 on this site, and i use cleanRAM, like i said right now all good.. we'll see though
How many times did you flash the NFS ROM? Try doing X3.
Go back to stock ROM and stop screwing with your phone, then it will work just fine
Nope. I love my xv6900. Best phone I've ever owned. I can tell from the short 2 months I've had it. It runs great, I love all the features, and it's generally not sluggish unless I try to do a ton at once, but that's fixable. The stock ROM isn't so great, but I'm not using that, so who cares!
Go back to NSFAN 6.1 and it should be working fine. WM6.5 is still very unstable. So stop complaining and use something that is proven or use something that is new but still has lots of bugs. The choice is yours.
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I was hype at first... all this new **** comin from a phone that only made calls/texts, everything goin fine.
Now I feel like I soft reset about 5-10 times a day because randomly it'll start reacting unbelievably slow to anything I do (I don't leave programs open), sometimes it'll start only reading every other touch to the screen but when I soft reset all is well again and might be for a day or 2.. or sometimes I'll hit the top right corner for it to show the couple of programs running so I can close some and it won't come down... I'll hit it 3 times, then it'll go up/down a couple times and close again, I'll literally play with it for 5-10mins just to close out a program..
Then I upgrade to V12, every 2nd or 3rd soft reset it completely resets the ROM.. so I go to V11 (I went from V7 to V12).. and my pocketwit, cetwit, none of them work, kinda annoying just because I make music and have followers so I keep people updated and listening. So now I'm back at V10, and I feel like the overall phone is just slow, especially after playing with other peoples blackberries etc.. it's just lacking in everything.
Real disappointed I got ahead of myself and ordered this phone just because it was free, coulda got an older blackberry for free and probably woulda been a lot happier.. and I don't blame it on age of phone because I think it's about 4-6 months old if that.. my problem I'm betting, is I've dropped it maybe 5-7 good times, it's been in a case all but 1-2 but still.. if that's the case I'm never gonna own another phone with these capabilities.. I will always drop phones..
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j18yo said:
I was hype at first... all this new **** comin from a phone that only made calls/texts, everything goin fine.
Now I feel like I soft reset about 5-10 times a day because randomly it'll start reacting unbelievably slow to anything I do (I don't leave programs open), sometimes it'll start only reading every other touch to the screen but when I soft reset all is well again and might be for a day or 2.. or sometimes I'll hit the top right corner for it to show the couple of programs running so I can close some and it won't come down... I'll hit it 3 times, then it'll go up/down a couple times and close again, I'll literally play with it for 5-10mins just to close out a program..
Then I upgrade to V12, every 2nd or 3rd soft reset it completely resets the ROM.. so I go to V11 (I went from V7 to V12).. and my pocketwit, cetwit, none of them work, kinda annoying just because I make music and have followers so I keep people updated and listening. So now I'm back at V10, and I feel like the overall phone is just slow, especially after playing with other peoples blackberries etc.. it's just lacking in everything.
Real disappointed I got ahead of myself and ordered this phone just because it was free, coulda got an older blackberry for free and probably woulda been a lot happier.. and I don't blame it on age of phone because I think it's about 4-6 months old if that.. my problem I'm betting, is I've dropped it maybe 5-7 good times, it's been in a case all but 1-2 but still.. if that's the case I'm never gonna own another phone with these capabilities.. I will always drop phones..
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I had a similar issue too! Though after about a weeks worth of troubleshooting and almost 20+ purposeful and accidental hard resets (sometimes a soft-reset would just hard reset it anyways) I found out the issue was with the auto updates with the email. (I had recently gotten an unlimited data plan) For some reason if my email is set to anything but update manually it would eventuallyfreeze on wake up or while starting another program. Idk if its an issue with sprint, or with any other programs I installed............... Anyways the touch is a great device its reliable and speedy. Plus it survived falling off a car at 30 miles per hour with only a few scratches on the side of the body.
I will say I have had mine for over a year now. I think its one of the best out there. V12 has a battery life like I have never experienced. 1 think you might try is to go into the Task manager and set the close button to close the program instead of minimizing it. Might help. KB is always a bit sluggish, but that might be 6.5.
j18yo: When you flash a new ROM, do you flash it 3 times in a row before using it?
I've never had to do this, but it's a known issue for some users, so I would recommend downgrading to a stock ROM, then flash v12 three times in a row (it's mentioned in codybear's FAQ as well).
A friend of mine with a Vogue (also on Bell) was running into similar problems, but when I suggested he do the multiple flashes before using, it's worked well for him. Maybe there's cruft sticking around in memory on some devices that's causing the issue?
im on my 2nd touch vogue and i love it but it's time for me to move on to another, newer ppc like a diamond or touch pro!
i've had my xv6900 for a week now running nfsfan's 6.5 rom v12. it runs pretty smooth other than minor glitches here and there all in all its a pretty fast overall phone
Have been Running 6.5 since NFS's Version 1. and have never really had reason to look back to 6.1.
6.5 is very user friendly by this I mean anyone could pick up a 6.5 phone and figure it out. 6.1 I don't think it was this way.
I am currently running v12 and have not soft rested my phone in probably over a week.
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yeah...? so you answered your own question. I don't understand the point of this thread. WHY???
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i just have to ask this question...
I have my MDA-Pro for about 2 months now and have installed two O2 roms (I'm at present running 1.13.82 WWE from 02).
but i'm just not convinced. i'd love to love love my Universal (I am a self confessed gadget person who just HAS to have the newest thing!). it's just not 'doing it' for me yet.
UMTS (i am with the german provider e-plus) is not spectacular, the phone is ok, but i get mixed opinions as to my calls with my bluetooth headset...(jabra BT800).
Also, the device just doesn't feel snappy. it has a fast processor and i have really not many programs installed (the basics: pocket informant, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, skype & ozVGA - although i don't always run in VGA).
for navigation i own a mio168 with TomTom 5. This device feels quicker than my Universal.
am i doing something wrong? can i do something right?
i appreciate your help and comments.
Hi effjay,
just for one subject of your message.
I use a BT800 as well and have the same result using it (not even UMTS, just GSM). My experience is that if the actual available memory is too small, the BT gets bad quality. A soft-reset and I am confirmed to be totally clear again.
Your question I would answer with : "not yet" meaning I am convinced that one or two updates (which still have to come) and I will be happy.
Ruud
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NO :x :?
i don't know why i do it!
i purchased a HP6315 when they first came out (i was lucky to be holidaying in singapore at that time!), and i sold it again quite quickly as i was not happy with the performance.
i guess i should have learned from that lesson. i was (am?) really hoping that the universal will be the thing it should be, but it just isn't. it's unreliable.
things that worked fine yesterday (i.e. voice dialling with my jabra BT800) for whatever reason decided to not work today. i had to reset and then everything was fine. this is not acceptable and it's so annoying.
so i guess (after my moaning!) all i'm trying to say is that i hope that someone, somewhere can finally deliver a ROM that is stable, is economic with memory and that just does what it's supposed to!
stranger things have happened...haven't they?!
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Not really.
I love the screen, I love the keyboard, but it's soooo slow. I would love to see a HTC Universe with PalmOS Or Windows Mobile 2003. My Old MDA III (Blue Angel) is MUCH faster. And it has only 400MHz (or 420?)
Am I happy?.
no at all.
i hate this machine specially with my Arabic langauge.
no way to buy again...
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I hate this device!
I spent a lot of money on this brick! It simply doesn't work! (T-Mobile Pro!)
1.) EVERY morning it has hang up! seems to happen on recieving a mail or sms.
2.) When you open it and put it like a Laptop on your desc you cannot tap on the screen without tipping it. It will fall on its back!
You have to use your second hand! (SIC!) Even then!
3.) T-Mobile branding is so annoying that I sometimes get angry just by looking at it! Startscreen (morning booting)
4.) I'm using a DELL X50v and a Compact, a XDA III and a QTec 8310.
Each of this devices is at least 2 times faster (Even with switched off Error Handling) Its unbelievable SLOW!
5.) Roaming does not work well. When I travel by train or car, my colleages can phone for hours without any troubles. My sh*** Pro does just hang up or disconnect every 5-10 minutes.
6.) Finaly - this device seems to be unhackable (there is still no SIM-Unlocker) This may make T-Mobile happy, but not me as a customer.
There are about 25 further problems. If anyone would like to see them, just tell me!
This device is NOT for professional use!
eegee
eegee said:
This device is NOT for professional use!
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I totally agree.
This is a nice, first generation beta childplay.
This is something the same when Frank Zappa published one album which was totally empty.
I bought mine purely for experimental purposes, I have no real need for a PDA! As such I think it's great.
I'm not convinced as a phone and will be getting a second, much smaller handset. I wouldn't like to rely on this device on a professional level. I find the battery life very poor and it once lost all my contacts. They came back after a soft reset, but I wasn't happy to have to wait over 5 mins to make a call.
Once the teething problems have been sorted out, I'm sure it will be a fantastic device. It has the potential to be great! I fear however, that by the time the problems are sorted out, there will be better, faster, smaller, more reliable devices available.
Sank5
nope!
its slow and seemingly buggy, i would like someone to do a backup on their phone that works properly then post that to see if it makes a difference... we could end up with a workable model after all..
o2 exec
I love my exec! I wouldn't change it for the world! Of course it is going to have teething troubles, but these are being sorted, both by software updates and the great people on this forum! The size issue is irrelevant, we all knew it was going to be big, and as people have already explained on this forum elsewhere the vga screen is the main reason it is a bit slow.
Just my two cents!
Fin
I absolutely loved it when I first got it. But I'm getting more and more frustrated with it.
1) The goddamn alarms just refuse to work half the time. I never know if it will work in the morning or if it won't wake me up. I spent 1,200 US and it doesn't even work as an alarm clock!
2) The device is really slow.
3) The ActiveSync in incredibly unreliable: sometimes it just stops syncing for no apparent reason at all. Everything worked the night before but it doesn't the very next morning. What the...?! Now, all of a sudden it starts asking me for an Exchange password. Why? I didn't do anything differently!
4) The POP mail account just disappears sometimes.
5) The phone is so difficult to answer - you press the button and nothing happens - the thing just freezes and I have to call people back.
6) Some programs just disappear from the Settings menu and reappear later after a few soft resets.
It's annoying that the thing is so frustrating - it's such a great concept! But the only way it work in an acceptable manner is if it doesn't have any programs installed - right after a hard reset, but if that's the case, there's no point in this "micro laptop" if you can't install programs.
VERY HAPPY.
Doesn't feel faster than my old JAM, but it's got 4 times the pixels to shift. A good memory manager and never switching it off allows it to remain zippy-ish though.
Wifi is rock solid, bluetooth works a treat, but I use that less at the moment, activesync sucks balls, but that's an MS problem, 3G/GPRS/AS/Wifi switching works flawlessy, screen rotation works great, WM5.0 isn't compatible with all my fave progs yet, but give it time, battery life is good, as long as I don't use a lot of wifi without a charger (suits me) , screen is great, keyboard is great...
Loving it so far.
Universal - great PDA, rubbish phone
there is no doubting that the Universal is a superb PDA - i don't really have so many problems using it for surfing either.
it's just mainly the phone part. it's not reliable.
so often i'm told that i was not available although my universal was turned on and i was definately within a very good signal range. upon rebooting the universal everything is fine.
due to browsing the forums here i had a very lean system with really only some basic stuff: pocketInformat, resco explorer, magic button & ozVGA
i was running the O2 ROM (corporate mode) - although i have just updated to the new T-Mobile German ROM...
i hope that it addresses some of my phone reliability issues.
i'll keep you all posted
Besides the Activesync which at times decides to go on vacation, I think this device rocks.
Everyone knew it was big so that doesn't really count doesn't it?
Mine just started to after lunch today. I've had it on the desk and saw it restart about 3 times in less than a 15 minute window.
How do I know this just started and it hasn't been going on in my pocket? Well over the weekend I would have heard it reset (since it's not on silent/vibrate like it is at work). It also significantly drains the battery more if you are constantly soft resetting it/turning it off and on.
So is anyone else having this issue? I need to figure out if it was just a freak occurrence or if something is wrong with it.
I did NOT root it, running everything stock - I did some updates on some apps I have installed but no new programs installed in a couple of days - again this just started happening today in the last couple of hours.
And besides email and messaging, I'm not running anything in the background like Pandora or eBuddy, so I don't think it's a program causing it to reset.
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Not sure if this is the best category for the thread, but I could not find any threads similar to this besides the battery issue in general. Apologies if this thread already exists somewhere.
No uncalled for restarts here. Open the back, pull the battery, check the contacts? Is it plugged in when it does this? Try padding the battery with a folded piece of paper between the door and battery to ensure a snug fit. If it still does that, time to go to a store.
@Jye75
Thanks, I have pulled out and looked at the battery. I have that Seido case they were slangin' at Best Buy on it, I don't think there's an issue with the contacts.
One weird thing is during one of the automatic restarts, the phone made the start up sound. I had the phone on vibrate and the start up before that (and after when I manually restarted it) did not have a tone. Very odd... perhaps it's possessed.
Odd indeed... drop by a Sprint store, would be my next move.
It happened to me two times today since I did the full root last night. The last time it happened, I clicked on a input field and it restarted...
I had the issue when I turned off "enable always on mobile data"...turning it back on stopped the resets.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701540 <-- no one said much in my thread about it
Probably just a kernel panic. I would not worry about it too much. It's happened to me on my Hero, and on my Evo.
For comparison purposes, how often does OS X Kernel Panic? How often does Windows BSOD?
Android is rather new technology in comparison. Yes, it runs Linux, which is rather mature at this point, but it's built with a lot of new technology, which may not be as mature as the stock kernel itself.
/two cents.
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I had the issue when I turned off "enable always on mobile data"...turning it back on stopped the resets.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701540 <-- no one said much in my thread about it
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Thanks, I realized that was one of the few things I've changed at the end of the weekend. Sweet!
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Probably just a kernel panic. I would not worry about it too much. It's happened to me on my Hero, and on my Evo.
For comparison purposes, how often does OS X Kernel Panic? How often does Windows BSOD?
Android is rather new technology in comparison. Yes, it runs Linux, which is rather mature at this point, but it's built with a lot of new technology, which may not be as mature as the stock kernel itself.
/two cents.
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It reset about 8-10 times in less than 2 hours. More than half of that time the phone was in my pocket and not in use. I hardly got a signal inside of Walmart so it's not like I was using it that much in there.
I have set the data to be always on and hopefully this will help...
I appreciate all the help guys!
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Thanks, I realized that was one of the few things I've changed at the end of the weekend. Sweet!
It reset about 8-10 times in less than 2 hours. More than half of that time the phone was in my pocket and not in use. I hardly got a signal inside of Walmart so it's not like I was using it that much in there.
I have set the data to be always on and hopefully this will help...
I appreciate all the help guys!
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I had the same exact thing happen to me beginning this past weekend. It was driving me insane since it was rebooting every 30 minutes or so. I noticed it started happening more so when I did not have good signal. In any case I came to the conclusion it was all the tinkering (root part 1 and custom ROM) I've done with the phone so I wiped it last night and started from scratch (root part 1 and 2 and custom ROM). No reboots yet, but seeing your post concerns me since it's not the first post I've read regarding this issue. I'll keep you posted if mine keeps doing it. I really hope it's not a real issue, getting a replacement does not seem like it will be an easy process at the moment with them constantly selling out.
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I had the same exact thing happen to me beginning this past weekend. It was driving me insane since it was rebooting every 30 minutes or so. I noticed it started happening more so when I did not have good signal. In any case I came to the conclusion it was all the tinkering (root part 1 and custom ROM) I've done with the phone so I wiped it last night and started from scratch (root part 1 and 2 and custom ROM). No reboots yet, but seeing your post concerns me since it's not the first post I've read regarding this issue. I'll keep you posted if mine keeps doing it. I really hope it's not a real issue, getting a replacement does not seem like it will be an easy process at the moment with them constantly selling out.
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Thanks for the input. Your concern about the difficulty in getting a replaced unit due to them selling out is EXACTLY why I'm trying to figure out if this is a software glitch.
I'm also glad you pointed out that it tended to happen when the signal was ****ty. Last night I enabled the data always on (it was on by default and I turned it off earlier in the weekend) and I haven't had a reset yet this morning. Of course I've also been in good coverage areas. When it kept resetting like mad last night it was inside of Wal-Mart, and they have some serious shielding on their building or something since I rarely get a full or even half signal in there regardless of carrier or phone in past experience. A lot of friends on Altell/Verizon beg to differ with me though.
I'm thinking if they're connected, the fact that a weak data signal contributes to the device rebooting is really odd; the only time I can think of why a phone should reboot on its own is the OS crashes (or some app takes up ALL the available RAM, freezing it, then crashing it) or it overheats (but would seem to turn off rather than reboot). I had a BB Curve that did this at one point so I had to clear the cache all the time.
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Actually, I realized when it started to happen it was at work where I have excellent reception. Hmmm... well at least it hasn't reset on its own this morning so far (so far meaning 30 minutes).
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Thanks for the input. Your concern about the difficulty in getting a replaced unit due to them selling out is EXACTLY why I'm trying to figure out if this is a software glitch.
I'm also glad you pointed out that it tended to happen when the signal was ****ty. Last night I enabled the data always on (it was on by default and I turned it off earlier in the weekend) and I haven't had a reset yet this morning. Of course I've also been in good coverage areas. When it kept resetting like mad last night it was inside of Wal-Mart, and they have some serious shielding on their building or something since I rarely get a full or even half signal in there regardless of carrier or phone in past experience. A lot of friends on Altell/Verizon beg to differ with me though.
I'm thinking if they're connected, the fact that a weak data signal contributes to the device rebooting is really odd; the only time I can think of why a phone should reboot on its own is the OS crashes (or some app takes up ALL the available RAM, freezing it, then crashing it) or it overheats (but would seem to turn off rather than reboot). I had a BB Curve that did this at one point so I had to clear the cache all the time.
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Well for what it's worth, mine was also doing it in good signal areas as well. It just seemed a lot more pronounced when I was getting bad signal. Anywho I reread your original post that you are running stock software so let's see if it keeps occuring for both of us regardless of the differences in software we are running. I also still have "Enable data always on" off.
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Well for what it's worth, mine was also doing it in good signal areas as well. It just seemed a lot more pronounced when I was getting bad signal. Anywho I reread your original post that you are running stock software so let's see if it keeps occuring for both of us regardless of the differences in software we are running. I also still have "Enable data always on" off.
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Sounds like a plan. Still no problems so far with data always on.
FWIW I also did the battery trick by switching the phone to CDMA auto from GSM auto. Supposedly you have to do it everytime you boot your phone, and it's supposed to help with battery life. Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601
It has to have something to do with turning off always on mobile data. It goes away when it's on, but then comes back when you turn it off. I just did rooted and unlocked nand protection on my phone last night and turned off always on mobile data and haven't had any reboots yet. Then again, it took a little while for it to start resetting last time so we'll see I guess. Could just be some glitch in the software that putting a new rom on has fixed...
It has to have something to do with turning off always on mobile data. It goes away when it's on, but then comes back when you turn it off. I just did rooted and unlocked nand protection on my phone last night and turned off always on mobile data and haven't had any reboots yet.
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Mine had been the complete opposite, I have had data off, and when I turned it on yesterday it started reseting, I turned data back off last night and have had no more problems...
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I had this happen to me while I was trying to talk on the phone and use google navigation at the same time while running the Overclocking widget to throttle my cpu to 285mhz when the screen was off. Whenever I turned off the screen my phone would reboot.
My guess is that there some issue there where the cpu cant keep up with the heavy usage, locks up and forces a reboot...
I've since gotten rid of the OC widget, rooted my phone and installed a custom rom. I've not had it happen since, of course I havent tried talking and using google nav yet.
I've also noticed that advanced task killer caused the htc sense launcher to reboot (force killed) every once in a while... I've gotten rid of that too...
happend to me while talking on the phone twice, it was weird i could hear him still talking the entire time it was rebooting, up untill the OS actually launched...Im gunna try and kill set cpu, how many other people have this running while its rebooting???
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happend to me while talking on the phone twice, it was weird i could hear him still talking the entire time it was rebooting, up untill the OS actually launched...Im gunna try and kill set cpu, how many other people have this running while its rebooting???
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This happened to me today, in-call. My phone has reset 6 times since then off-call.
Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Running Toast's root has stopped it for me as of today. If that actually had any effect, I have no idea...but no resets yet with always on mobile data on and off. Maybe flashing the rom again helped...
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Running Toast's root has stopped it for me as of today. If that actually had any effect, I have no idea...but no resets yet with always on mobile data on and off. Maybe flashing the rom again helped...
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Me too, I'm totally stuck on part 2 though...
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Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Wow dude I'm sorry to hear you're having that much trouble. I'm on step 2 of part 2 of Toast's root method but running into major issues. Since I did step 1 (and before that I enabled data always on again) I haven't had a reset issue.
For the record, my Hardware version 2.
Do you guys think this is a widespread or isolated issue? I'm surprised it hasn't happened more or less, in other words I figured there would be either a lot or hardly any comments about it. This medium sized number is interesting.
ok. i have had a tilt, fuze, and tilt 2 now through att over the past 22 months and i dont mean to sound like a man in a tinfoil hat but are they purposely killing our phones? follow me here... i had 2 devices on verizon in 2 years and they were completely stock and worked until the end of my contract,the only reason i had 2 was i broke the first and they replaced it with a newer one through the insurance program. i came to att for the tilt. for the first few months it was awesome, then it all went to crud.reloads wouldnt help. started warranty exchanging til i was blue in the face, about 5 devices, each replacement came back with the exact same problems the original one took months to develop. they swapped me for a fuze. same story, worked flawlessly for a couple months. even running hacked roms and registry edits... then it all went south. started the exchange game. 7 fuzes later they again offered me the one time upgrade for the second time.... alas the tilt 2. incredible phone... ran cooked roms and reg edits without a problem. all my apps never had any issues. then it all started. played the reload game.. nothing seemed to help. around the same time my girlfriends tilt 2 and her dads started with the exact same issues as mine and hers was stock, his was modded. coincidence? now. im playing the warranty exchange game again. and this time there have been 2 insurance phones thrown in the mix , 1 fell down a ladder, one didnt survive my frustration with att. 8 phones later. thursday i open a box with a brand new tilt 2. boot it up. load my minimal requirements to make me happy and out of the gate it has the same issues!!!!!! dropped call, screen orientation issues, lock up constantly, txt message issues, audio issues, bluetooth issues... you name it! its been upgraded to latest software. theres nothing left to tweak on it. att's advice to me was" you are eligible for an upgrade, u should switch to the iphone" im sorry but i have no use for that thing, this is their only current winmo buisness class phone with a keyboard for my fat fingers and it DOESNT WORK! internet is USELESS. is this their way of forcing us to upgrade or do i need to adjust my tin foil hat so the aliens cant read my mind? dont wanna sound like a nut but somethings up. my new non refurbished replacement should be here monday or tuesday. i don't even know if its worth opening the box. this has me ready to pull the plug on att and switch to evo.
Am I getting you right, 20 phones in 22 months?
All I can think is, EXTREMELY bad run on luck on phones. I got the original Tilt at launch and used it (2 years) until the Tilt2 launched, and have had that handset since. Both work perfectly. In fact, I still use the old Tilt as a "backup" once in a while (loaned it to a co-worker a couple times this year when he needed a phone that would roam in Japan).
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ok. i have had a tilt, fuze, and tilt 2 now through att over the past 22 months and i dont mean to sound like a man in a tinfoil hat but are they purposely killing our phones? follow me here... i had 2 devices on verizon in 2 years and they were completely stock and worked until the end of my contract,the only reason i had 2 was i broke the first and they replaced it with a newer one through the insurance program. i came to att for the tilt. for the first few months it was awesome, then it all went to crud.reloads wouldnt help. started warranty exchanging til i was blue in the face, about 5 devices, each replacement came back with the exact same problems the original one took months to develop. they swapped me for a fuze. same story, worked flawlessly for a couple months. even running hacked roms and registry edits... then it all went south. started the exchange game. 7 fuzes later they again offered me the one time upgrade for the second time.... alas the tilt 2. incredible phone... ran cooked roms and reg edits without a problem. all my apps never had any issues. then it all started. played the reload game.. nothing seemed to help. around the same time my girlfriends tilt 2 and her dads started with the exact same issues as mine and hers was stock, his was modded. coincidence? now. im playing the warranty exchange game again. and this time there have been 2 insurance phones thrown in the mix , 1 fell down a ladder, one didnt survive my frustration with att. 8 phones later. thursday i open a box with a brand new tilt 2. boot it up. load my minimal requirements to make me happy and out of the gate it has the same issues!!!!!! dropped call, screen orientation issues, lock up constantly, txt message issues, audio issues, bluetooth issues... you name it! its been upgraded to latest software. theres nothing left to tweak on it. att's advice to me was" you are eligible for an upgrade, u should switch to the iphone" im sorry but i have no use for that thing, this is their only current winmo buisness class phone with a keyboard for my fat fingers and it DOESNT WORK! internet is USELESS. is this their way of forcing us to upgrade or do i need to adjust my tin foil hat so the aliens cant read my mind? dont wanna sound like a nut but somethings up. my new non refurbished replacement should be here monday or tuesday. i don't even know if its worth opening the box. this has me ready to pull the plug on att and switch to evo.
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First off, let me start with. you should flash the new radio that is out, in my signature. Second. You should try a custom rom. as it makes this phone way worth it. The bluetooth. There is a cab out there, i will link it, that will help u with that, and also loudness of speaker, incalling, and your mic for outcalling.
These are not my cabs. i in no way take credit for them. i just found them.
My TP2 has been pissing me off lately too. Ive only had it for about 7 months, I dont have it loaded with apps, in fact there are only about 10 I use regularly and it is the stock ROM. I frequently have to do soft resets because it freezes, it takes forever to load apps, messages, just about anything takes 30 seconds or more sometimes.. when i use the retarded headphone attachment with a charger plugged in it when i play music it constantly goes to voice connect even when i have VC turned off. I recently got a free iPhone 3g cus my dad got the new i4 and I've been thinking about using it instead. If I can find comparable programs on the iphone like WMWiFiRouter and scilors groovemobile i will def. switch to the 3g.
I am on my 5th touch pro 2 from t-mobile, due to a power issue and the leaky screen. That said, after turning off manila (I hate that ****) and using a few today plugins, it works beautifully.
What really helped: overclocking it. I have it set up to be dynamic, so it clocks back when the screen is off, but good lord, did it make a difference. Using the phone, what used to be an exercise in patience is now quite enjoyable. Everything happens almost immediately, my battery still lasts me 1-2 days, and very little weirdness.
That said, I've always had the habit of just rebooting my phone whenever I plug it in to charge. No idea why, but I've never had any stability/functionality problems with my phones. They've just sometimes turned off when sliding them closed, hence the 5the phone.
Wow sounds like the gsm users are having a lot of issues lol. I'm still on my original tp2/sprint, going on 9 months now. Never had any major issues with it. Rarely do I drop a call. Have never upgraded radios. Hardware has all remained functional, and with an overclock this phone is great. Probably my favorite winmo device.
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Man this is my 1st time reading threads from general part of forum and it's hilarious.
Alright, new phone is here. I will be reloading it tomorrow night. Lets see what happens.
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Wow sounds like the gsm users are having a lot of issues lol. I'm still on my original tp2/sprint, going on 9 months now. Never had any major issues with it. Rarely do I drop a call. Have never upgraded radios. Hardware has all remained functional, and with an overclock this phone is great. Probably my favorite winmo device.
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Ya and now I'm with Sprint . And I hope there's no going back. They destroy HTC phones, by changing them to there specifics . Bs .... 6 years in prison with ATT, is like bubba taking Ye lunch daily...
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OK, I'll admit it: I'm a huge fan of Defender 2 game. Downloaded because it was so heavily advertized that my phone suggested it in notification - and played ever since.
Initially, the game played lie a charm, no problems whatsoever. 4.0.2
However, I had some issues with the phone and took it to service a couple of times. After the second time at service, my phone upgraded to 4.0.4 and my troubles with the hame began. I should mention that I'm grateful I had a protective foil because the idiots there managed to seriously scratch it Anyway, the problem:
Every once in a while (2 - 3 games taking 2 - 3 minutes each), the screen just stops responding. My weapon no longer shoots arrows, I can't cast spells, etc, etc. This happens regardless of game time: it can happen during the second game as surely as during the twentieth. Edit: Lasts up to 5 seconds.
However, the non-responsiveness is limited: touch usually stops working on the right (bottom) part of the screen, but still works on the other side (where speaker + front camera are). I have managed to actually observe an instance where the border between working and non-working section was extremely clear at about 1/3 - 2/3 split. Moving my finger in and out of this zone would make the game start shooting arrows again or stop doing it, depending on the zone I moved my finger into.
Perhaps I should also mention that the phone heats up quite a bit during gameplay. However I'm not so sure it should be a factor since the unresponsiveness can happen even right after I start playing. But perhaps that's also a factor to consider?
Anyway - anyone else having these issues or someone that can explain what I'm experiencing?
I started having the same issue yesterday morning as well - except it seems to be ALL the time. The bottom 1/3 of the screen doesn't respond to touch about 50% of the time. Typing is virtually impossible and every touch must be made deliberately and repeatedly. I downloaded a multitouch test and it was quite obvious where the division was between responsive and un-responsive.
I'm rooted on 4.1.1 with stock everything. I restored to my previous nandroid backup from a week ago but still had the problem. Definitely seems like hardware now.
I really don't want to have to buy a third Nexus...
Funny: I just flashed minco ROM which has Francisco's kernel and this doesn't happen any more. Played some 20 rounds so far so I can't say for sure yet, but it seems this rom solves the issue where stock and some others didn't
Latest update: the minco ROM does help, but it does not solve the issue.
I will try to escalate this to Francisco, perhaps (look, I'm an optimist, OK? ) he'll be inclined to look into the issue. Seems to be something few people are aware of. I imagine there aren't many games where one has a fingen onscreen all the time...
A lot of people are experiencing this problem (including me). I'm pretty sure its a software issue. Mine started after I updated my phone from ICS 4.0.2 to 4.0.4...and with jelly bean. I would love for some one to find and correct this issue.
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Yes, me too - moving from 4.0.2 to .4 seems to be when they introduced the problem. Don't know about lot of people though: searching yielded almost nothing.
So after i updated to K3, and not having the features that i needed, especially write-2-Sd and unlimited tehthering, i downgraded back to F9. And when i got back to F9, i noticed alot of force closes, and crashes. It progressed, so after it become more than regular, i downgraded back to F4, which i shouldnt have left to begin with because i had my Note 3 running like a Stingray Corvette with Twin Turbos, i just felt left behind, so i upgraded. Im not going to blame any Custom Roms, because i only use 3 and they have been the most decorated developers/teams on xda. But this has been sort of out of my league, and its really getting annoying. The problem is.....Random Reboots, Crashes, and Black Screen Freeze, and then have to pull battery to get it back on. It happens when i try to watch a video, or go to sub-websites, or if i run across something life a website that takes a little more time to load than usual ones. I have searched, but growing impatient, and tired of seeing my baby suffer. I really just wanna know what this problem is, who else has experienced this, and what was done to fix this issue.