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http://gizmodo.com/5039741/t+mobile...nch-details-oct-13-199-w-2+year-contract-only
Looks like a cool phone; however, does this phone even run on Windows or no?
jdoggraz said:
Looks like a cool phone; however, does this phone even run on Windows or no?
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Android OS - the Google OS
It would be funny if they called it the gPhone.
HTC Dream
I am very very very excited for this phone to come out. It will be running Googles OS called Android that will be Linux based. Most of the Android OS is open source and you can download the SDK pack here: http://code.google.com/android/download.html
The specs on the phone are unclear. I would recomend watching any of the videos of Android OS in action like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOSk9TW7z-4
Also there are some Nokia phones with Android OS running on them over the top of WM6. I guess the biggest problem they have run into is supporting the kernal drivers when trying to port Android onto other handsets.
Dream...
im dieing to know if it will have a qwery keyboard and if it will run on 3G tell you the truth after messing around with a phone that runs on windows mobile i dont think ill ever buy a phone that dont run it... but this phone is an eye catcher so i think ill buy it just to try it out and see how things go from there. cant wait to see the spec's on this phone very excited to see the specs. question is how many of you guys are really gonna buy it? UPDATE: just finished watching the video on youtube wow this truly is an amazing phone... i must say.
Cannot Record Video
This super phone cannot record video, oh no, and just imagine yourself in a emergency situation, where you need to record a little video, that's one dream I don't want to have. Man, that would be more like a nightmare to me and they call this super phone the dream and it cannot record any video at all, yeah right..........!
Technology said:
This super phone cannot record video, oh no, and just imagine yourself in a emergency situation, where you need to record a little video, that's one dream I don't want to have. Man, that would be more like a nightmare to me and they call this super phone the dream and it cannot record any video at all, yeah right..........!
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Well if it has a camera and the ability to view video.. also being Linux based.. there has to be a workaround for this.. i also felt it was a disappointment not being video ready out of the box..
Cannot Record Video
I didn't know it couldn't record video This is the first I have heard of that. Oh well I am still going to purchase it so that I can test it out.
These are the only specs that have been released that I can find.
HTC Dream will apparently be rocking 3.6Mbps HSDPA, 128MB RAM / 256MB ROM, and a capacitive touchscreen (!) - all powered by a Qualcomm MS 7201A processor clocking in at a speedy 528MHz.
When do I ever record video as it is . . . . NEVER! haha
Technology said:
This super phone cannot record video, oh no, and just imagine yourself in a emergency situation, where you need to record a little video, that's one dream I don't want to have. Man, that would be more like a nightmare to me and they call this super phone the dream and it cannot record any video at all, yeah right..........!
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didn't you forget the "crystal clear uber quality HD WOWZZ!!! Blue-Ray!!!one!" of the playback?
....Seriously who really uses a cellphone to record anything, maybe it shows that i just don't care to waste my time with it but all the 3gp videos ive ever seen are complete ****. not to mention 90% of the photos ive seen taken on a cellphone are just trash.
This Phone Does Not Camcord Video!
Let me make myself perfectly clear, I'm not talking about 3 gp video web site, movies, YouTube video clips..ect or snap shots with the camera. Example, suppose you are in a accident, an emergency situation and you need to document the event with video, well with this phone you would not be able to do that, because this so call super phone does not camcord video, That's a dream I don't want to have, that would be a nightmare for me and for a lot of other people too.................!
RussianSolja said:
im dieing to know if it will have a qwery keyboard and if it will run on 3G tell you the truth after messing around with a phone that runs on windows mobile i dont think ill ever buy a phone that dont run it... but this phone is an eye catcher so i think ill buy it just to try it out and see how things go from there. cant wait to see the spec's on this phone very excited to see the specs. question is how many of you guys are really gonna buy it? UPDATE: just finished watching the video on youtube wow this truly is an amazing phone... i must say.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080815/bs_nf/61366
The HTC phone is expected to have a touchscreen that slides out to reveal a full keyboard.
Technology said:
Let me make myself perfectly clear, I'm not talking about 3 gp video web site, movies, YouTube video clips..ect or snap shots with the camera. Example, suppose you are in a accident, an emergency situation and you need to document the event with video, well with this phone you would not be able to do that, because this so call super phone does not camcord video, That's a dream I don't want to have, that would be a nightmare for me and for a lot of other people too.................!
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The phone is not out, the specs are not clear, so how can you say it doesnt support video recording yet?
I have not read any official statement that supports this claim.
I myself can't wait to see this phone, however, my biggest concern is the apps...
I love my Resco Radio, and Pocket Tunes and Core Player, etc....I sure hope these guys will develop for Android..
I Knew You Were Coming, No Camcording On The Android, The Dream, Nightmare!
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The phone is not out, the specs are not clear, so how can you say it doesnt support video recording yet?
I have not read any official statement that supports this claim.
I myself can't wait to see this phone, however, my biggest concern is the apps...
I love my Resco Radio, and Pocket Tunes and Core Player, etc....I sure hope these guys will develop for Android..
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I knew you were coming, OK(LOL)! Go to http://tmonews.com and go to http://www.tmoworld.com and read it for yourself, both web sites will tell you the same thing that I' telling you, but read it with your own eyes, seeing is believing, no video recording.......!
Technology said:
I knew you were coming, OK(LOL)! Go to http://tmonews.com and go to http://www.tmoworld.com and read it for yourself, both web sites will tell you the same thing that I' telling you, but read it with your own eyes, seeing is believing, no video recording.......!
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Like I said, I would wait for official news, not something from a blog site...
Even if it doesn't have a video recording app out of the box, doesn't mean someone won't make an app.. That's the whole point of Android.
Blog This
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Like I said, I would wait for official news, not something from a blog site...
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Blog this, their is no Camcorder feature on the upcoming code name, HTC G1, better known as Google's Android or the Dream, and this is official. If you want to know anything about the Android go to the above web sites, blog that...............!
Technology said:
Blog this, their is no Camcorder feature on the upcoming code name, HTC G1, better known as Google's Android or the Dream, and this is official. If you want to know anything about the Android go to the above web sites, blog that...............!
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Actually, Google's Android is the name of the operating system, not the phone.
The phones name is the Dream.
Unfortunately, this is something that also confuses the general public about the phone..
Those unofficial blog sites you refer are missing some other key features such as GPS...
We will find out the real truth when Tmobile or HTC release official specs.. Until then, its all still rumor.
No Camcoder On THe DREAM!
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Actually, Google's Android is the name of the operating system, not the phone.
The phones name is the Dream.
Unfortunately, this is something that also confuses the general public about the phone..
Those unofficial blog sites you refer are missing some other key features such as GPS...
We will find out the real truth when Tmobile or HTC release official specs.. Until then, its all still rumor.
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You can word it any kind of way you want to, bottom line still, the DREAM will not have a camcorder feature....!
Technology said:
You can word it any kind of way you want to, bottom line still, the DREAM will not have a camcorder feature....!
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Will not *have* or will not *come with* a camcorder feature? That's a bit like saying "You can word it any kind of way you want to, bottom line still, the DASH will not have WM6.1.....!" Fact is, you really don't know yet, because you're trusting blog sites that don't list sources and can't even spell "roll out" or "two" correctly.
All this negativity coming from someone who claims there's no limit to what he can make his current phone do...even surpassing the physical limitations of said phone. But when it comes to having an application written (even if delayed) that's well within a future phone's capabilities, you scoff? Truly amazing.
The thing about Android is that, being Linux-based, there's no overhead for potential developers to join the Microsoft club to develop software for the phone. The SDK has been available for a while now, giving interested people a jump at learning the internals of the new OS and trying their hands at coding applications for it. It can be downloaded and used in just a few minutes' time. Try that with WM or whatever Apple uses on that other phone. The vast majority are volunteers who do it for the challenge and the love of the code, not for pecuniary interest. Their work is freely released so that everyone has access to it and can modify it to suit themselves if need be. They don't hold their programs back and laugh at others who don't have what they do. Also, it will be so much easier to get simple apps that do one thing, and do it well. It should be a boon for end-users.
So whether or not the Dream actually ships with a camcorder application, it won't be long before it does get one. That's the beauty of a system where anyone with the know-how can write beautifully functional applications and get them to the masses for free (really free, not pirated-free.)
I like the way Beartard thinks.
It Still Does Not Change Things, No Video Recording On The Dream!
Guy, well said, still it does not change things with the current Dream, their will be no camcording feature, but I never said their would never be a camcording feature added to the Dream in the future.........!
Has anyone made a ROM using the Samsung Ominia User Interface? i saw it on youtube the other day and it looks cool i was just wondering if anyone can make it.
I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.
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I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.
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ofcoursee NOTHIN is better then ur ROM (1.27 BELL) that i m running ryte now NO doubt about that.
but its nice to have different things you know to see little change in our HTC TOUCH thats what i think. you dont have to do it just for me. beacause i do understand it takes countless amount of hours and hard work.
soo if more people agree and if they want it too, then ill kindly request you too make it.
I KNOW tht if ur gonna make it then it will be the BEST thing out there!!
thanxx alott bro
im sorry but that would be wicked !!!!!! the FEWedgets plugin was cool for a minute but boring, to limited.. and not tha best quality.. I aswell wouldn't ask for tha amount of work to be put in.. but 4real that would be pretty sick! imo
yea ehh thats what i thought
no doubt it takes lots of hard work but if we have more people wanting this
then we can kindly request NFSFAN to make one for us.
so can everyone who wants this ROM just post a reply saying "yea this would be nice or yes u want want this ROM.
yea this would be nice!
Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug
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Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug
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I'm with him ^^^. The gui doesn't really appeal to me, but like I said, depending on the factor of people wanting this, I may consider making a ROM using it. When a reliable and real build of WM6.5 comes out, I will port it to the Vogue.
lol yea I kinda agree, still would be cool, just to say tho.. any possibilty geting a omina style on screen mouse cursor ? its cool in skyfire, but if possible to port that to be able to use thru out menues etc on a htc would be sick!
just a thought
I would also like this. It reminds me of the Android, with the removable widgets. It's nice to have a change every once in awhile!
Not gonna lie I would like to see this a lot
I would like it I'm actually thinking of getting one when my phone is up for renewal or a blackberry storm....just wish there was something new and exciting coming out just seem like we have maxed out the vogue. And android seems like a pain in the ass to get going from reading the thread to many damn steps and buttons that do the opposite of what they were intended to do?!??!
+1 on the boring UI. It would be cool, but the avail widgets are quite useless and can't be used with other plugins. One thing I found odd was that you can't lock the widgets into place, so everytime you click, they move.
I just think the mouse feature would be really cool to have.
Mouse
Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.
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Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.
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Alright thanks!
jus incase here tha link
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...d-device-operation-on-windows-mobile-devices/
and 4real thanks for tha info.. just what i wanted, it is a sick app 4real.... not tha best have afew issues wit it but does tha job....
< just realized its a 30 day trial? thats sucks! i hate paying for apps lol >
< actually it cut me off with in 24hours.. said i used 200 clicks with outa stylus and wanted $20.. > *WACK*
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
Maybe next time, punctuation. Maybe next time...
Personally, I'm in the 'Buy a phone for what it can do now, not what I hope it might be able to do in the future' school of thought.
Sure, no WP7 is a disappointment, but if you own an HD2 (as I did for a while), you got what was being promised. For me, it was the lack of a keyboard that made me get a TP2, but the HD2 is still one helluva phone.
No announcement has been made. I'm gonna laugh if the HD2 ends up getting an update.
bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
I would be glad to take your HTC HD2 off your hands
The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
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The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
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Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
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bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
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It's not so much the lack of an upgrade that's the problem, it's the combination of that plus WP7 being incompatible with Windows Mobile software. That's one thing nobody was predicting a few months ago, and it means that there is no longer any reason for a commercial software company to continue working on any Windows Mobile project - see, for example, Adobe's decision to scrap FlashPlayer on WinMo.
To say "your phone won't get an OS upgrade" is one thing, but to say "your phone won't get an upgrade, and incidentally we also neglected to mention that your phone's current OS would cease to be a viable platform for commercial software about three months after you buy it" is something else.
And it is not by any means certain that there will be custom ROMs based on WP7.
leeuwtjevanjuda said:
Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
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But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
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alright that finally explains it. Didn't know they got an official WM5 release.
The HTC HD2 is an impressive device even without WP7 As for upgrading it, there will be a debate but, they will chose to release a HD3 instead. Feel free to sign the petition though,lol http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5475&tag=content;col1
I'm quite on the contrary
Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
it's so true ....
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Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
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+1
That’s what comes to my mind when I think Windows Mobile vs. Android
Actually I really don't care if Windows Phone 7 doesn’t get an "official" release for HD2.... Its current state is a "Solid Windows Mobile 6.5 PocketPC" which is exactly what was intended for it to be.
enjoy your little crappy java machine LOL that'll show em.
nucentury08 said:
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
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"mabey" go to school and learn to spell next time? Just as a suggestion..
For Sale
My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
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My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
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I PM'd you with my offer
There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
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There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
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So much fight here about it.....
Well I'm still not decided.
But I know I want to give WP7 a go.
Looks great and I would be happy to have clean, unified UI.
Limitations which are apparent on WP7 make it unusable at this point.
Android is the most complete but I just really don't like it's interface...
Probably staying with 6.5 for some time....
i personally cant be bothered to hack my my phone and look for custom ROM to flash. surely people only do this if they are not happy with their phone.if you dont like the OS. dont get it. its the reason why im not getting android, or an iphone. all phones have great features missing from them. and wp7 is only in its first phase improvement like copy and paste will come. ive only got 1 complaint, and that is that i cannot use it as a flash drive but then again, if i did that, would it slow down to a crawl??? wp7 is dead easy, i dont have time to muck around like i used to with wm6.5 on my touch diamond 2. i want it all, and i want it all now. so im sticking with wp7.
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i personally cant be bothered to hack my my phone and look for custom ROM to flash. surely people only do this if they are not happy with their phone.if you dont like the OS. dont get it. its the reason why im not getting android, or an iphone. all phones have great features missing from them. and wp7 is only in its first phase improvement like copy and paste will come. ive only got 1 complaint, and that is that i cannot use it as a flash drive but then again, if i did that, would it slow down to a crawl??? wp7 is dead easy, i dont have time to muck around like i used to with wm6.5 on my touch diamond 2. i want it all, and i want it all now. so im sticking with wp7.
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Same thoughts here. Was cooking my own 6.5roms to get a slim and working OS but sinceI got my HD7, I've stop cooking totally because WP7 is very fast and stable for me. Sure there are areas I'm not happy with, but at least, I have more time to live my life now since I stopped cooking roms.
I'm not here to convince anyone to go WP7, each OS has it's pros and cons, and each of us are completely different and see things and have different needs, so we go for different phones, something that works for us.
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Same thoughts here. Was cooking my own 6.5roms to get a slim and working OS but sinceI got my HD7, I've stop cooking totally because WP7 is very fast and stable for me. Sure there are areas I'm not happy with, but at least, I have more time to live my life now since I stopped cooking roms.
I'm not here to convince anyone to go WP7, each OS has it's pros and cons, and each of us are completely different and see things and have different needs, so we go for different phones, something that works for us.
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LOL , you just made a lot of people angry by stopping with cooking rom's .
I think I will stick with wm 6.5 for awhile. I use it as a Mass storage device & tether with it often. I also am really used to using smart dialing which I can't understand why it wasn't added to WP7. I'll wait to a few months after WP7 lands on Sprint to see what the updates have brought & what hackers have opened. If more functionality is available on WP7 I'll get it, if not I'll go with Android when I want to upgrade because of hardware
shouldn't this be in the winmo section???
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There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
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I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation of WP7 phones and OS (or at least an OS update or two). I was ready to get a focus, then I realized I'd be losing some features I enjoy on my TP2 (multitasking, tethering, call manager) just to gain a newer OS.
I also want premium hardware and design which the first generation doesn't seem to offer. DVP comes close though.
i switched to android, never looked back
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I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation of WP7 phones and OS (or at least an OS update or two). I was ready to get a focus, then I realized I'd be losing some features I enjoy on my TP2 (multitasking, tethering, call manager) just to gain a newer OS.
I also want premium hardware and design which the first generation doesn't seem to offer. DVP comes close though.
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wait, you are using a plastic phone with a plastic resistive screen and are talking about premium hardware???
There should be another choice "I would celebrate with Dom Perignon!" Please put the 6.5 out of it's misery already!
One thing is sure for me, I will not be joinging the iPhone family.
Possibly Maemo or Androd. Depends what kiind of devices will be out by then.
W7 only if there has been lots of needed updates and/or hacks/roms and such.
Any poll in a specific device forum will always have support for that device.
Poll threads should be in common forum to get a neutral response from ALL, IF the thread starter wants to know EVERYONE's opinion.
Just my 2C
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shouldn't this be in the winmo section???
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Life after WM6.5 to which he refers is precisely WP7. then the correct section!
A little off-topic, but correct!
I found that I was having to flash new ROMs etc to my 6.5 because the UI and features available to a standard WinMo was rubbish. I never liked the 6.5 OS much, I just liked the ability to customise and look deeper into the phone
I am now on WP7 and would never look back on 6.5.
At the moment I don't see I have much choice - Android here I come I think.
The gains in slick simple UI are insufficient in my case to outweigh the loss of functionality vs 6.5.
Many of the other advantages (gaming for example) are of no interest to me on my phone (I am not the target market).
I will stick with 6.5 until at least Phone Alarm is released for Android, then it will become viable for me. Hopefully this will be early 2011.
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wait, you are using a plastic phone with a plastic resistive screen and are talking about premium hardware???
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:lol: My premium phone standards were set by my SE X1, not the TP2. I would really love to see a WP7 version of the X1. Hopefully the X7 will deliver. But knowing SE, it won't be released until next November.
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:lol: My premium phone standards were set by my SE X1, not the TP2. I would really love to see a WP7 version of the X1. Hopefully the X7 will deliver. But knowing SE, it won't be released until next November.
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Ditto. X1 was excellent.
Currently on X2 which is actually better in many regards.
Anyway, I just hope SE will make it around Feb/March.
So it will catch upgrades which are for me necessary.
And until core apps I use on WM 6.5 will be functional/supported
I can just wait for some time....
I find it hard to believe anyone speaks of the death of WinMo in the present tense. It died for me like 2 1/2 years ago and since then the iPhone has taken over the smartphone market, Android has taken over the spot WM6.5 used to occupy and Microsoft has done practically nothing until very recently. I bought a Focus and I like it, it's a magnitude nicer and easier to use than my old Fuze with WM6.5 and while it's lacking a lot of the functionality, that will come with time and, in the meantime, I don't need to take out my reading glasses and itty bitty cramp inducing stylus to use it. The Fuze is still sitting on my desk, unused, with a noticable layer of dust on it. And there it will sit until I finally tire of looking at it and throw it away. And good riddance!
I cannot speak for anyone but for me, I have been windows mobile user ever since palm treo with windows on it. Before making switch to WP7, my device was Tilt2 and I tweaked the crap out of it putting custom roms and radio to fit my taste. Although having the capability was great but my user experience was not all that great. Something was always wrong and the hardware and software wasn't working correctly, so I was constantly tweaking and tell you the truth I got tired.
I was ready to jump ship to Android with Samsung Captivate but as soon as the WP7 was arriving I decided to wait. Boy I am glad that I did, I am happy with my samsung focus. Although it's missing some functions now but I am sure it's on it's way, the stability and the fact that it just works and I do not have to tweak anything makes my life a lot easier. Could not be more happy with OS. At least so far.
My wife has iphone and looked at android and both are not really appealing to me. Android is not all that great even if with all the customization and tweaking.
Hey tomorrow I have to purchase a new phone for myself.
Previously i owned HTC Viva wm 6.1 phone. I was very happy with it as i can remote desktop my servers, install, play with lot of apps, can view my office docs etc, copy data from any PC but thing missing were GPS and a faster CPU. And at the END that phone was stolen.
Meanwhile i used a cheap Nokia as in interim phone.
HD2 launched: HD2 and Wp7 announcement was made. I was daily visitor of HD2 forums (XDA) learned it was a cool device for me. then the fear of wp7 not upgrading on wp7 dealyed my purchase.
I eagerly followed all wp7 presentations, seminar, webcast etc and believed its a good os by good company.
HD7 launched: Loved its specs and was really looking cool, especially the facebook integration and was very excited. Loved its speed and positive reviews But i looked some of the programs like skype which did not have app for wp7 and copying data only through pissed me.
I didn't liked Android because of its look and feel. and thread by me supports this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624884
Desire HD launched: That one exicted me the specs similiar to HD2 and HD7. I said hey why not look at android when whole world is going after android. And I found it has everything what windows mobile provided and a it more like resolution, 720p videos , google voice support free, skype app. and top of that htc sense , htc offline gps maps locater, www.htcsense.com feature. So I have decided to buy this one.
Hey this is not a flamewar topic and dont start here I like both of them infact are cool to have. If possible I would love to have the wm6 like customization on hd7 or wp7 like UI on DHD both ways are good
Now my questions.
Best feature i like on HD7 is live tiles and facebook integration and live update.
Can we get similiar experience on DHD.
How is the sound quality (call) as well music quality through Headphones.
Is there anything I will miss If I go with DHD not buying HD7?
Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum. So made this post again as I have to purchase phone tomorrow itself. hope this mistakle will be ignored.
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Hey tomorrow I have to purchase a new phone for myself.
Previously i owned HTC Viva wm 6.1 phone. I was very happy with it as i can remote desktop my servers, install, play with lot of apps, can view my office docs etc, copy data from any PC but thing missing were GPS and a faster CPU. And at the END that phone was stolen.
Meanwhile i used a cheap Nokia as in interim phone.
HD2 launched: HD2 and Wp7 announcement was made. I was daily visitor of HD2 forums (XDA) learned it was a cool device for me. then the fear of wp7 not upgrading on wp7 dealyed my purchase.
I eagerly followed all wp7 presentations, seminar, webcast etc and believed its a good os by good company.
HD7 launched: Loved its specs and was really looking cool, especially the facebook integration and was very excited. Loved its speed and positive reviews But i looked some of the programs like skype which did not have app for wp7 and copying data only through pissed me.
I didn't liked Android because of its look and feel. and thread by me supports this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624884
Desire HD launched: That one exicted me the specs similiar to HD2 and HD7. I said hey why not look at android when whole world is going after android. And I found it has everything what windows mobile provided and a it more like resolution, 720p videos , google voice support free, skype app. and top of that htc sense , htc offline gps maps locater, www.htcsense.com feature. So I have decided to buy this one.
Hey this is not a flamewar topic and dont start here I like both of them infact are cool to have. If possible I would love to have the wm6 like customization on hd7 or wp7 like UI on DHD both ways are good
Now my questions.
Best feature i like on HD7 is live tiles and facebook integration and live update.
Can we get similiar experience on DHD.
How is the sound quality (call) as well music quality through Headphones.
Is there anything I will miss If I go with DHD not buying HD7?
Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum. So made this post again as I have to purchase phone tomorrow itself. hope this mistakle will be ignored.
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Wow, there's long thought that you have..
Anyway, it's the same thing going through my mind.. actually, my dhd is a mistake that i make.. originally, i had place my orders on hd2.. Until that thing came to the store after 3 weeks of waiting, it was broke, not functioning at all, not even start up, even with charger.. they even told me that was the only stock, and if i want a replacement, i have to wait for another 1 month, what the heck..
Then, the store offered me wp7, and i said, i want ONLY hd7, none others.. after 2 weeks of waiting, the only thing that came was htc mozart and 1 unit of dhd to put on demo.. as i want only 4.3" screen, i buy the dhd because of i need phone asap..
And, it was the most beautiful mistake i ever made.. The phone is fast, vibrant and huge.. And the ability to hack (hd2 is far more hackable) puts my dhd stay in front of current htc release version on android.. Use gingerbread from cm7, and love it more every minute..
I would say, go for it, buy dhd, and u'll be amaze..
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Wow, there's long thought that you have..
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I would say, go for it, buy dhd, and u'll be amaze..
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Thanks , I thinnk I am gonna get DHD
still anyone what about call quality compared to HD7 ?
Update : I brought DHD and believe me phone is worth the price.
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Update : I brought DHD and believe me phone is worth the price.
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Do you think it still needs window 7 looks, because believe me, you can do lots, try rooting your phone, adding a custom rom,
i even put a theme together, with more apps on one row in the ap drawer, transparent all over, to give it a glassy effect, even the right hand key you can change it to whatever you want!
loads you can do with android, i hate windows phones now but was a huge fan of them, previous phones include, xda orbit2, htc touch hd, hd2
welcome to android
Welcome to android. I can't speak for wp7 facebook integration, but dhd has enough of it(for my taste) , you get more apps, roots and customizations . I read your post about different os, you sound like someone in need for a wm 6 is with a modern feel, well android is just for you. I love both my phones, and I wait for official cm to remove all the bugs from my hd2
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Do you think it still needs window 7 looks, because believe me, you can do lots, try rooting your phone, adding a custom rom,
i even put a theme together, with more apps on one row in the ap drawer, transparent all over, to give it a glassy effect, even the right hand key you can change it to whatever you want!
welcome to android
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Welcome to android. I can't speak for wp7 facebook integration, but dhd has enough of it(for my taste) , you get more apps, roots and customizations . I read your post about different os, you sound like someone in need for a wm 6 is with a modern feel, well android is just for you. I love both my phones, and I wait for official cm to remove all the bugs from my hd2
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Thanks ikhzter and deckoff...... Phone is perfect and everything is working like a charm without any modifications. and in noway m missing wp7 and HTC sense has doen good work. People is automatically populated with emails, pics and nos, calender has the entries for Birthdays, etc- amazing. Voice Navigation is working, I Get gps fix in secs when outside, sad Google voice navigations is not availabe for India (heard brut all works but can we install without rooting). the only problem is Battery but its only two days old lemme me check it can improve. I m loving it
MODS : there are double threads with the same title can we merge them . Sorry for the trouble
the only problem is Battery but its only two days old lemme me check it can improve. I m loving it
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Takes at least a week before the battery behaves like it should
I had a HD2 and loved it really was deliberating about getting a DHD as i literally had one already with HD2 and android.
I really liked the windows homescreen with CHT mods and then being able to pop into and out of android seemed the perfect system for me.
But about 3-4months now with the DHD i've put a few custom roms on and i love it, so silky smooth and fast, its smooth in a way the HD2 won't ever be purely because of hardware.
My HD2 was brilliant but the DHD is just awesome IMO
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Takes at least a week before the battery behaves like it should
My HD2 was brilliant but the DHD is just awesome IMO
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Update: Battery is working like it should be ....(3g & flash disabled, I will write a threat for battery improvment ) . ..This is the best OS + Hardware Combination. It has the flexibility of Windows Mobile and intuitivness / smoothness of iphone. meaining best of both worlds.
But I m fed up with one thing with this phone, whenever i took my cell out of my pocket colleagues asks for it, thrn i hav to demo them and as word of mouth spreads more pppl want to see it. Chicks ask for it please give me ur cell for five mins etc etc....
Chicks ask for it please give me ur cell for five mins etc etc....
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Dam i'm taking mine back must be faulty not once has that happened to me