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Bricked Universal?

My bootloader was 0.x so I tried to upgrade to 1.0 and now I think it might be bricked.
I've read LOTS of posts here, but it won't hard reset or go into bootloader. The screen shows nothing, no matter what I do. The battery is good though as it works in my friends Uni. If I plug into my PC I get 'device not recognised' error.
Anybody got any ideas at all, ie flash from SD? Is this possible. I'll try anything!
Thanks in advance.

MTTY
Find a copy of MTTY, as notes on attached txt file, and follow brief notes.
Its a way of issuing commands direct to the PDA.
If its bricked you dont have much to loose :-(
Mike

yes it's work!
bigyellowdog said:
My bootloader was 0.x so I tried to upgrade to 1.0 and now I think it might be bricked.
I've read LOTS of posts here, but it won't hard reset or go into bootloader. The screen shows nothing, no matter what I do. The battery is good though as it works in my friends Uni. If I plug into my PC I get 'device not recognised' error.
Anybody got any ideas at all, ie flash from SD? Is this possible. I'll try anything!
Thanks in advance.
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!!!sorry for my english!!!
your must click light key + power key + reset
then your divice ready to change your rom with out use the actve sync

mikechad said:
Find a copy of MTTY, as notes on attached txt file, and follow brief notes.
Its a way of issuing commands direct to the PDA.
If its bricked you dont have much to loose :-(
Mike
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Thanks Mike. But the problem is that it just won't go into bootloader. I've tried MTTY before and no luck. It just doesn't see any device connected to my PC.

djmfxp said:
!!!sorry for my english!!!
your must click light key + power key + reset
then your divice ready to change your rom with out use the actve sync
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Thanks for the suggestion but as said before it just won't go into bootloader. Appreciate any other ideas?

Big Yella - what does the phone do? Anything at all?
If it's trully fecked, you'll have to get a gold card or jtag interface. But is there any life in it at all? Do the lights come on when charging?
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Vijay - the only sign of life is when I push the reset hole and the light flashes red. Also when the battery runs out completely and I plug in the charger the light stays red for about 2 or 3 minutes and then goes out.
Apart from that, nothing. The screen doesn't react to soft/hard reset or trying to put it into bootloader. But it was a perfectly working Uni until I tried to upgrade the bootloader from 0.x to 1.x.
Do you think I deleted the bootloader?
Thanks.

If it's not the battery, I think the bootloader it messed up and bricked...sorry

Sounds like the battery is completely dead to me.
Mine did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago but all I needed was a new battery. Had me very worried for a while too though.
I haven't still got my old knackered battery to check, but I would guess that you should be able to get the bootloader up while the device is connected to the charger (and the LED is on, and red)? Not sure if that will work if the battery is totally screwed, but if it does, then it would at least prove that the bootloader is still "there"...
EDIT: Just noticed that you say the battery works in another Uni - I'm flummoxed then! There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there - 'cause your device really is displaying exactly the same behaviour that mine did when the battery didn't work...

sub69 said:
Sounds like the battery is completely dead to me.
Mine did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago but all I needed was a new battery. Had me very worried for a while too though.
I haven't still got my old knackered battery to check, but I would guess that you should be able to get the bootloader up while the device is connected to the charger (and the LED is on, and red)? Not sure if that will work if the battery is totally screwed, but if it does, then it would at least prove that the bootloader is still "there"...
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Cheers Sub, but no the battery is ok. It works in my friends Uni and his battery doesn't work in mine.

Edited my post above just too late to catch you! As I said though...
There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there?

sub69 said:
Edited my post above just too late to catch you! As I said though...
There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there?
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Hmmm. The contacts/connections looks ok. Do yo think its worth taking a screwdriver to it and looking further inside? (I'm more than happy to do that, its way out of warranty)

If this happened just right after the bootloader flashing, I don't think opening it up would help. I really think the bootloader is messed up.

Unfortunately I guess clemsyn is probably right. Shame though cause I was hoping it was just a power problem, which showed the same symptoms in my case.

White screen of death

Hello everybody,
I seem to have a major problem with my XDA Orbit: Not only it shuts down with no apparent reason so that I have to reset it, but it shows sometimes the dreaded "white screen of death" - from now on "WHISOD". The screen all of the sudden slowly goes white and sometimes shows dark vertical bands. After that - if I am lucky - I can reset the device, however a couple of times I already had to hard reset end even reflash it.
I have already checked software and plugin problems and would rather say that it seems to be a hardware problem. Any ideas out there. They would be highly appreciated.
Best regards,
Smack

i had the same problem and as at now my phone is dead becuase i did not flash it with the original rom. look for the rom it came with and flash it to the phone ,like how u first got the phone or u will loos ur phone very soon

I am not at all sure if it has to do with the ROM. I have tried different ROMs to check the error but it appeared with all of them. However the next time I will try again with the latest official ROM.
Thanks for the comment and your help. BTW Did you send your Orbit in for repair?
Regards,
Smack

Hi, do you use the uspl before every new rom install? Try it.
I have the same problem, my htc3300 is almost dead I think. No way I can even turn it on, allways end in the windows screen, and it was because I didn`t use the uspl before last rom install.
Give it a try, and let us know.
See ya.

Thanks. No flashing problem. I have flashed a couple of devices (always unlocking them before ;-) )and have had no problems whatsoever.
The problem I mentioned is not connected to any earlier flashing. The device works a couple of hours perfectly. However suddenly it starts to behave like crazy.
Now to your problem: If you can get into boot loader modus you will most probably be able to unlock your item. Search for uspl and download it. Then get into boot loader mode (press voice recorder button and power button while resetting the device) and you will get a three colored screen. Then connect the USB cable. You will see "usb" in small fonts on the screen of the device. Now you can run uspl. With a little luck the device starts again. However you can flash it again with a fresh ROM the same way (after unlocking it). This may (!) work.
Regards,
Smack

Hello,
I have the same problem, I already hard reset end even reflash my p3300 many times with different ROM.
I even tried running it for some time with and without the micro SD, ending with the same result: the screen of death.
Any ideas , tips, anyone ?
Thanks,
Roundi

Ok, I tried the following: Just take the battery out for six or seven hours and insert it again. The device seems to run smoother. Will keep you posted. Tell me if it works out for you.
Regards,
Smack

Ok, just removed the battery, I will leave till tomorrow morning.
I will keep you updated.
Thanks,
Roundi.

I have same problem here - though mine is the second phone and the fifth motherboard I've had. HTC just don't seem to able to fix it. I'm now trying to get a refund.

Hi, Jem.
Yes that's something I have thought about too. Did you you use the original ROM? However right now the system seems to be more stable. I have had only one blank screen after removing the battery (and one shut down).
Regards,
Smack

I have just put in the battery and switched on the phone after almost 24h.
So far so good.... I will try to use it for a while and will let you know.
Regards,
Roundi

Had the same problem again, when using Mortplayer. I have Mortplayer installed on the SD card. Could it be that the problems arise, when there is heavy usage of the SD Card?
Any ideas are welcome.
Regards,
Smack

Again it went SOD shortly after turning it on. I didn't launch any applications.
I am stuck here.....

Oops..

i posted the begining of my problem somewhere on monday but cant remember where. so.....
on monday, the screen on my tmobile dash messed up, now the top half of the screen has white horizontal lines covering it.
well, i called tmobile and the phone was still under warrenty, so got a like new phone sent and it arived today. I went about unlocking it and upgrading to wm6.1 like i had on my last phone. started out with all sorts of problems sycning and i had to reinstall active sync and that seemed to fix it. continued installing the upgrade, the dos program runs i press the center button and i get the red blue green screen and i know from before that that normally means it isn't working, so i reboot the phone, re sync, and re do it and get the red green blue screen again and the update program says it can recover and it leads me through a four step process, upplug, pull bat, reboot and do it again, only it reboots into the red green blue screen, wouldnt sync and when i turned it off, i couldnt get it to power back up. no response from the phone at all. pulled battery many times and all.
What are my options? I know that i agreed to the statment and i have no one to blame but my self. is there anything i can do? i have 7 days to return the half working phone, and i have a feeling that because its unlocked and has wm6.1 on it that tmobile is going to charge me what ever it will be. I have 200.00 in credit with um, and i feel that those fees will take away from that, leave me with an un usable phone, and no money to do anything about it !
a brainstorm, could i just tell tmobile that i got the phone that way? or would they see through my lies?
please please please please help!!!
and thanks a ton in advance.
Nick

NJDubois said:
i posted the begining of my problem somewhere on monday but cant remember where. so.....
on monday, the screen on my tmobile dash messed up, now the top half of the screen has white horizontal lines covering it.
well, i called tmobile and the phone was still under warrenty, so got a like new phone sent and it arived today. I went about unlocking it and upgrading to wm6.1 like i had on my last phone. started out with all sorts of problems sycning and i had to reinstall active sync and that seemed to fix it. continued installing the upgrade, the dos program runs i press the center button and i get the red blue green screen and i know from before that that normally means it isn't working, so i reboot the phone, re sync, and re do it and get the red green blue screen again and the update program says it can recover and it leads me through a four step process, upplug, pull bat, reboot and do it again, only it reboots into the red green blue screen, wouldnt sync and when i turned it off, i couldnt get it to power back up. no response from the phone at all. pulled battery many times and all.
What are my options? I know that i agreed to the statment and i have no one to blame but my self. is there anything i can do? i have 7 days to return the half working phone, and i have a feeling that because its unlocked and has wm6.1 on it that tmobile is going to charge me what ever it will be. I have 200.00 in credit with um, and i feel that those fees will take away from that, leave me with an un usable phone, and no money to do anything about it !
a brainstorm, could i just tell tmobile that i got the phone that way? or would they see through my lies?
please please please please help!!!
and thanks a ton in advance.
Nick
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Okay do this, make sure the phone is off and hold the camera button down for about 5 seconds... this button is located to the right of the keyboard. While still holding it down plug in the phone to the usb and now you should see a tri-colored screen come up. Now you can load the original rom the phone came with... The official roms could be found in the link below... called "official roms" and just download the t-mobile rom... and now you can flash your phone with the original rom...

stonersayswhat?

gixxum said:
stonersayswhat?
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quis-ego....

anyone seen the other half of my thought from the other night? anyone?

Ok, I had found a forum post saying to hold down the SYM button, but couldn't get it working untill I read your reply. Much thanks, the phone is on, and giving me the red green blue screen. I hear the windows alert saying a USB device is plugged in, but active sync wont pick it up. So I'll post about it here, and while I dig through the internet trying to find my cure, I will hope that someone will know what my next step is.
Much much thanks jdoggraz! At least now I know my phone isn't completely dead!
Nick

jdoggraz already told you what to do. YUou do not have to wait for active sync to pick the phone. Just run the exe for the orginal rom.

I have tried to do a hard reset.
Hold the 2 softkeys down(the "-" on each end) for a few seconds, hot the power button down for 2 seconds and then hold the 2 softkeys down and wiat, but nothing happens. Donno why, but may be not being able to hard reset is a clue to whats wrong.
[EDIT]
I have found something about a program called Mtty.exe, and also a UNI_ExitBootLoader But I get a "un able to connect to usb" error with both programs when I try to connect. But, once again, every time I plug the phone into the computer I hear the alert saying a usb device has been attached??
[Another Edit]
I just noticed in Device Manager, under Window CE USB Devices, that my Smartphone USB Sycn Has that nasty Yellow explanation mark next to it.
This device cannot start. (Code 10)
Click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter for this device.
?

NJDubois said:
I have tried to do a hard reset.
Hold the 2 softkeys down(the "-" on each end) for a few seconds, hot the power button down for 2 seconds and then hold the 2 softkeys down and wiat, but nothing happens. Donno why, but may be not being able to hard reset is a clue to whats wrong.
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why are you resetting it? you were at the bootloader screen in your last post...right where you needed to be. now you are 2 steps back?

Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't getting a refreshed look at the forum post, and I didn't see any other posts. I went back to what I was told to do in the first place.
I first tried
1.33.422.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
1.27.405.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
With both I get:
ERROR [224] : INVALID MODEL ID
This update utility cannot be used for your smartphone. Please check your Update Utility.
And in the lower right there is a string of characters that is different every time.
What am I doing wrong? I'm so frustrated. I followed your instructions =(
[EDIT] OMG I am an idiot, ignore this post. If I wasn't so beat I might have scrolled down and noticed the tmobile DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NJDubois said:
Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't getting a refreshed look at the forum post, and I didn't see any other posts. I went back to what I was told to do in the first place.
I first tried
1.33.422.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
1.27.405.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
With both I get:
ERROR [224] : INVALID MODEL ID
This update utility cannot be used for your smartphone. Please check your Update Utility.
And in the lower right there is a string of characters that is different every time.
What am I doing wrong? I'm so frustrated. I followed your instructions =(
[EDIT] OMG I am an idiot, ignore this post. If I wasn't so beat I might have scrolled down and noticed the tmobile DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pass the hookah brother..i wanna hang out in your world

puff, puff, give... man!....you're [email protected]#ing up the rotation!

An update.
I have gotten wm5 installed and working on my phone. I can't for the life of me get the 6.1 update to work. I get the agreement, press the center button and it goes back to the OS, the phone then locks up, and I have to restart it to re sycn.
This is very time consuming! The phone takes for ever to start. I also want to note that I upgraded my last dash with little problems, but this dash has been nothing but a head ache. WHY?!?!? I am not looking forward to being stuck with this phone.
Thanks everyone, for all the help. I went a little off course last night, I was falling asleep trying to get this thing working.
puff puff pass
nick
[EDIT] Why wont the screen go almost white after i click the middle button?!?!?!?!?

It works, YAY!!
Thank you soooo freaking much, everyone!

NJDubois said:
It works, YAY!!
Thank you soooo freaking much, everyone!
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No problem, so what exactly did you end up doing?

damn! it's "cashed"!

pudgedaddy said:
damn! it's "cashed"!
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hahaha

Constantly rebooting

Okay I'm having a problem with my TP2.
I've had it about 6 months now and had no problems until now. Earlier my battery died and now when I turn it on (after it being plugged it) It says Touch Pro 2 then just reboots. Does anyone have any idea whats wrong with it? I've tried taking out the battery leaving it a while and putting it back and i've tried taking out the memory card. Still nothing? Any ideas please?!
Thanks, Chris

ChrissehB said:
Okay I'm having a problem with my TP2.
I've had it about 6 months now and had no problems until now. Earlier my battery died and now when I turn it on (after it being plugged it) It says Touch Pro 2 then just reboots. Does anyone have any idea whats wrong with it? I've tried taking out the battery leaving it a while and putting it back and i've tried taking out the memory card. Still nothing? Any ideas please?!
Thanks, Chris
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Have you tried to Hard Reset?

How do I do that? Sorry it's my first HTC phone and I have no idea?

ChrissehB said:
How do I do that? Sorry it's my first HTC phone and I have no idea?
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While Powered off Hold Down the send, end and power button for about three seconds....Push volume up and it will restore to factory. You will lose all info.

I just tried that, it flashed on the screen with 3 colours and then it rebooted. :S Is my battery fried or something?
Thanks for the help

ChrissehB said:
I just tried that, it flashed on the screen with 3 colours and then it rebooted. :S Is my battery fried or something?
Thanks for the help
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Make sure its charged and try again. after you hold down the keys it will propt you to push volume up to reboot. If it just keeps dying for no reason your battery could be shot, but could be a issue with the phone itself.

Okay thanks
I just tested something... When I've been testing this it has been plugged in. When I unplug it, it wont turn on at all, this is giving me the idea of a dead battery? Should I buy a new one? And whats the best battery to buy because I've looked and theres all these differen mAh ones?
Thanks

Have to found a solution/cause to your problem. My tp2 is constantly rebooting since morning. It wont event do a hard reset.

I had this issue (continuously rebooting) this weekend. I couldn't even get it to hard reset. Had to pull the battery out just so it wouldn't drain. I finally called Verizon for assistance. We did finally get it to hard reset (as described in previous post). They advised that if it happens again to call back and they'll replace it. Still don't know what caused it, and I'm ganna cry if I have to hard reset again! I suggest you call your carrier. If you're battery is already fried, they should replace it (after only 6 months).
I've had my TP2 (Rhod500 running Windows 6.5) for about four months. I've had intermittent issues with it restarting randomly, freezing, etc., but this was my first major issue. I really dislike this phone!

Strange Brick

Hey Guys..
I have a Desire here in my Hands with a strange type of Brick.. (at least one I've never seen before) ..
It just does not react to anything at all. The battery is charged and I tested with another cell to be sure that is not the trivial cause.
No Bootloader, No HTC Logo, No reactions at all..
Did happen while flashing a Froyo 2.2 Rom + Radio + App2SD (from the xda forums) via ClockworkMod Recovery but I wasn't there to witness the actual Flash.
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
Then battery removed -> Brick.
Anyone got any Idea?

messywrk said:
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
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I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
Regards,
Dave

If you can access fastboot as opposed to bootloader you might be talking failing that back to HTC it goes

if your phone can not turn off whilst holding either volume down or the back button then yeah it's a brick, send it off to htc, just say it overheated and wont turn on again

foxmeister said:
I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
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The battery was removed after flashing and rebooting.
Installed in the following order:
32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04.zip
LeeDrOiD_V1.2b.zip
942_desire_froyo_a2sd-signed.zip
every process seemed to work normal, no error happened.
Then rebooted the Desire and the "Box with Android-Bot" Screen appeared.. this hung for 30 min or more when I could not think of any other solution than removing the battery to reset..
After this -> nothing.
I suppose as you say it has to do something with the Radio ROM..
Been coming from OpenDesire 1.6b - every flash ran perfectly up to this point.
Damn, I think this one has to go back to HTC.
Is there any possibility to unbrick a phone thats not responding at all?
Could HTC be aware of the modifications or will they really just go with the "overheated and won't turn on again" explanation?
Thanks for your help so far guys!

Yea, the little Droid with the box thing is during a radio flash and you should never pull the battery during that as it does result in a brick.
Can you reach fastboot as mentioned up above?

..tried pressing the "back" button with the power button and the vol-down button together with the power button..
even did the "insert the battery while holding the button" method..
I don't think I can get the thing to Fastboot..
But I will look further into this and try..
..
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?

messywrk said:
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?
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I know someone who sent their phone back with a pretty much identical issue and the phone was fixed under warranty no problem.
Regards,
Dave

yay!
you know, even one post of you telling me it went allright for another guy is a big relief..
EDIT: just wanted to let you know I tried invoking fastboot via usb and the android PC tools..
just keeps waiting for the device.. and waiting ..
..will analyse USB traffic in general to conclude if there is a little itsy bit of life left in the phone, but I think this is a dead end too.

thank u all for ur help i have managed to unlock the phone as described
thanks alot every1

saifiraq: You seem to have stumbled in the wrong thread or could we help by coincidence?
..UPDATE:
Did usb-sniffer analysis while pulling battery, trying to turn on, plugging usb in etc.
NOTHING at all..
My baby is on it's way to HTC now.. wish me luck guys!