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ROM Upgrading - Why it works for some & not others...

I have now tried all the Roms (Helmi, Indra, Jwright, Ivan) and believe I have the solution for a stable upgrade. Individually they all work well give or take speed issues and forgetting inherent bugs we discover in beta versions.
However when we cross platforms - IE go from an Indra Imate base to a Helmi O2 base is always when I have struck real problems. I had been using Jwright's Imate 96 version for a month or so and just swapped to Helmi AKU 3.5 1.3. After flashing the Helmi ROM I had awful problems from pathetically slow response to the unit completely freezing after installing several large applications. However after a 100 or so hours of extensive experimentation I have several key reccomendations that form the solution.
Now I can say the Helmi 3.5 is blisteringly fast and stable followed by Indra & then Ivan and Jwright in the AKU 3.2 flavours. By the way I have also attached with this post my extended ROM that I am currently using with Helmi and it works a treat! (Basically it is many useful applications from Jwright's rom like Candello, loaded into Helmi less any incompatable applications.) Speaking about incompatable applications I can now unequivicably warn you NOT to load the following applications in the 3.5 flavour ROMs: (EVEN IF THEY APPEAR TO WORK)
Battery Pack Pro (no versions)
Resinfo 1.5
Voice Commander 1.5 (NOTE: 1.6 IS OK!)
Device Lock
Sprite Backup - current version (IT DOESN'T RESTORE PROPERLY - USE SPB BACKUP INSTEAD - ALSO ATTACHED)
Here is my list of recommendations as a professional systems analyst:
1. Before flashing the new ROM reset the existing one to its default factory settings but dont let the extended rom load. (IE reset again when the "will customize in 3 seconds" message appears)
2.After flashing the new ROM (and resetting it by pressing both softkey application hardware buttons & reset then selecting '0') THEN FLASH IT A SECOND TIME! (I don't have any scientific evidence to support this but I know it works a treat! - maybe some old registry settings or system files are not properly overwritten.)
3.Only load ONE APPLICATION AT A TIME then softreset then if the PPC is still working perform a backup using SPB BACKUP ONLY. (This way you also find out straight away if you have an incompatable application and then you can go and restore your last good SPB back up - without going back to the beginning!)
4.Using the supplied registry editor DELETE any Today plugins that you donot use. (Search for either 'TODAY' or 'ITEMS'.)
Lastly regarding memory leak. I am not convinced this occurs in any of the roms tested. Remember WM 5 - all AKUs uses persistent storage so movement in and out of memory will vary constantly and appear to alter for no reason because it needs to. (Helmi's 3.2 1.2 rom is a good example where the memory movement seemed far less than the others but I found this rom unusable one I loaded nearly 2gb of applications onto the storage card.)
Regards,
Simon Jacobs

simonsalo said:
Here is my list of recommendations as a professional systems analyst:
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Took a deep breath and start to try out your recommendations... despite that my device looks work quite well... but I always hope that good things can be even better

Alternatively, unlock your extended rom, and delete all the files in it, hard reset, then flash with the new rom of your choice.
It has the same effect, only quicker.

Confused

I've been using my XDA Exec for almost a year now and have tried my hand at a few ROM upgrades - I'm not toally sure what I'm doing so I don't tend to try much. I now want to understand more about what each element of the upgrade does and I'm having problems finding out what does what. Can someone explain in easy terms what the CE ROM is and what it contains (I'm guessing its the operating system), what the Extended Image is and what it contains, and finally what the RADIO ROM is and what it does (or contains). I then want to try and mix and math the various bits to get the device I'm after.
Thanks
I'm currently showing ROM 2.01.06, RADIO 1.15.00, protocol 42.51.P8 and OS build 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0)

More confusion
Also, please, what is the difference between a standard ROM and a WWE ROM? I note that my question has not been covered in the glossary of terms, so is everyone else confused or is eveyone else too lazy to help out a n00b?

o.k very simple:
Ce ROM : (WM5 or WM6 etc) is the OS of your device, it can be compared to windowsXP in your desktop.
Extended Image=Extended ROM: is the image/ROM which has additional 3party application software on it. Those software’s can be related to your service provider settings /application or application simple as Adobe PDF; Backup software etc.
Extended image will be installed in a special area which called Extended ROM (ca. 10mg capacity) on your device. Normally this area is locked and hidden in official ROM. Application software or information stored in this area still untouched and available after a “hard reset (setting the device back to factory/provider settings)”
But in the ROM’s that are available in this form here (self cooked/made) is the extended ROM is mostly unlocked and visible. Moreover You will observe that this area has no more application on it anymore. Therefore you can make use of this area with storing some important data which you want to still available in case of hard reset.
RADIO ROM: includes only information for Phone functionality. It is a “application” to able the devices communicate with GSM, 3G etc. However you will find few available Radio versions. The most used one is currently 1.15 but it really depends on your location. Some are very happy with 1.15 but others having problems to receiving signals with it and leading the device been unstable.
WWE= World Wide English: that is related to OS (CE ROM) language version. It means it is English ROM.
I suggest you read the WIKI ,a lot of things that you can take from there

Bulldog,
Very many thanks for your help, and yes, I've read various bits of the Wiki but couldn't find the answers I was looking for. I appreciate the basic explanation.
I am currently using the extended ROM area as storage as I haven't found anything (CABs?) in there. Another question ref the OS ROM bit, do all 'cooked' OS ROMs of the same version have the same contents or can they vary from ROM to ROM (even if they say the same version number)?
Rgds, Phil

Hi Phil,
I assume you are using ROM made by one of the cooker here?
every cooker has own preference of software (additional to the OS) that includes in to ROM image. Basically they combine now the OS with extended rom.
You may hear the expression of "Vanilla" that indicates that ROM clean from any additional software and has only the OS on it.
Moreover different cooker may use different supporting application like commanager etc and build ROM which is XXX version. Moreover during the cooking different ROM builder using different registry settings which ends up as XXX version but have totally different performance.

Bulldog,
I am using one of the ROMs from this forum, from one of the 'stikkies'. I've tried a few but can't find the one I originally upgraded to when WM6 first came available (and also don't know whose it was!). I think I'm currently using Helmi's "Helmi_WM2k6_v.1.1
WM6 OS 5.2.318 (Built 15341.0.0.0)" ROM although I'd like to try the DarkForce one but can't find it (see other post). I'm also going to try the vanilla ROM posted by Graham but have yet to upload it to my XDA.
Once I get a bit more comfortable, I'm going to try and teach myself (via lots of reading here) how to cook my own ROM to provide the apps and features I want - but that might take me some time!!

try the PDAVIET ROM, very good. Stable and fast! you will not regret it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317823
darkforce rom hangs alot!

Protocol, Bootloader, ROM , OSBuild & Radio version incompatibilities

Hello,
since July 2007 I've been testing a lot of cooked and not not cooked (original) ROMs and suddenly, one moth ago, I've not achieved to have a stable device working: hang, black/white screen, stuch on load, etc, etc.
Now, I've cooked the original WM5 ROM (+ SDcorrupted card issue solved) and, I cross my fingers, everything seems to be OK.
That's why I wonder if anyone know if maybe these kind of issiues are due to certain incompabilities of different versions of firmware (Protocol, Bootloader, ROM , OSBuild & Radio). Because we are mixing differents releases of firmware and I don't know if anyone knows if that is right or not.
Any ideas?
Regards
Paco

Sick of Asus p320

I got an Asus P320 a couple of months ago but having been having too many problems with the piece - the HW seems to be grossly underpowered for WM6. apps open slowly, the phone crashes at least once a day, it suddenly loses the GSM service connection and i have to keep restarting the radio from the comm manager, picking up a call results in several apps opening on thier own (like the clock, calendar...)
I've tried upgrading to the latest WWE ROM (4.15) but the problems still persist. I'd now like to try WM5 on the device to see if it works. Would anyone know how I can port Wm5 to this device? or maybe even Andriod or Linux?
Or would anyone know how to make the damn thing more stable? I tried Pocket Hack master to overclock the CPU and it does seem to work most of the time, but the device still crashes once in a while, and it hasn't stopped multiple apps from opening when I pick up a call.
I hope Asus is reading this coz they've done a pretty bad job on the model by overloading it with wm6 and thier crazy custom apps.

try using hdubli's WM 6.5 ROM. I personaly am feeling a bit diffrence in the performance, the phone just started responding and working faster
P.S. I recomend using the bild from 21.04.2009, because the M2D Rom has many bugs

Helz said:
try using hdubli's WM 6.5 ROM. I personaly am feeling a bit diffrence in the performance, the phone just started responding and working faster
P.S. I recomend using the bild from 21.04.2009, because the M2D Rom has many bugs
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Hi Helz. Yes, I am doing that, but thanks for the tip on the builds . I've got the M2D build on, and yes - the phone is definitely more stable than before, but it does have bugs. I will try the full build this weekend
Thanks

gsm
hi guys,
due to gsm problem on p320 , let me say, some people has similar problems, and also I .
my observations shows:
fieldtest157 shows only 2 values RSSI and RX Quality.
my experience is that most stable original versions are 415wwe and 416tha.
but still is present problem of temporary "unreachability in gsm network" for cca up to half an hour , if there is some switching between BTS stations.

Solution
Hi DO the following
I was also facing same problem.
SO i install the Latest ROM (problem persist)
I again formated the Phone Reinstall the Latest ROM.
Now it was very Fast. I install Applications of choice (one by one -- then restart Device after every installation)
Now my p320 is as fast as other wm device. applications open very fast.
Dont install Kaspersky or pirated software (most of them will slow the device)
will try to install windows mobile 6.5 (from XDA)
hoping to get official WM6.5 for p320 (when released)

Check out my WM6.5 installation guide (with pix) at http://mrinaltech.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/windows-mobile-6-5-on-your-asus-p320/

Android
Hey can anyone please give me Android for porting on my P320.......because Windows Mobile is the worst os i hv ever seen.......... An unstable version is also ok till it runs.............i hv tried many like the Android Files for Diamond and Android Eclair........both boot to a certain level in Windows and then the phone switches off..............Please I like Android and I am ready at any cost to put Android on my Phone..................

Any ROM requests

I was thinking of posting one or two ROMs for this device to add some variety.
Does anyone have any requests?

I think most of people want a stripped down no frills kind of system. I used Dark's Roms for a little while but started having problems with it locking up and not receiving calls. I think if you can clean up the stock and maybe give it a face lift, well, I don't know about anyone else, but Id like that. Getting tired of the plan ol interface.

Any chance of you posting the OEMmiscs as well so that any of us who want to cook our own SYS builds can do it?
Perhaps a stripped down rom with any useful additions from the v7 Fathom rom (fathom keyboard, dialer, anything else you find worthwhile to add)?

Is there any chance to bring over the Sense 2.5?
I like the program, even though i don't have a HTC.

windows mobile 6.1?

OK, say maybe a couple of "clean" ROMs based on WM 6.1, 6.5 & 6.5.3?
I'm personally not that interested spending a lot of time porting HTC software, like Sense.
I have no problem posting my Kitchen and source files.
TrueG

Sounds good! Looking forward to the release!

He question is asked!!!
and then, nothing more has happened!!!
- made the survey and who likes what,
or have lost your phone or computer
and they said that they had gone to study
and such a thing happened in many applications and many ROMs
winmospeed
topaz rom
xperia rom
Avian Pleyer
and so on and so forth
In any case regards

Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.

trueg said:
Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.
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Thanks trueg. you are my best bud.

To be honest, I am really happy with stock AT&T April 2010. (I cannot believe I put up with HTC for 2 years).
I think the first step would be simply removing AT&T Media Net and other AT&T applications, so the ROM would be quick but still stable.
I would even leave many of the LG applications there, because the music player and scientific calculator get the job done, better than some of the cooked ROMs I tried when using HTC.

It is good that you're there yet "man.
You're the only one who stayed bulid the ROMs.
As almost all ROMS from Dark9781, links are dead.
To try the latest ROM do a normal clean version for everyday use, to be able to serve with the device.
All possible ROMs I tried and all use more memory than the official ROM.
Request is then
start top left because all the programs written for it.
thenks

bluetooth AVRCP
I'd love to have Coreplayer recognize avrcp commands so that I can abandon the lame windows media player an dlisten to flacs.

I use the Snapdragon hardware accelerated version of Coreplayer on my own device, but I can't include that in a ROM; Coreplayer is commercial software.

In that I am not sure.
Well TitaniumUI is included in Windows Mobile 6.5+ by default. It doesn't take up any RAM if you don't use it. Simply go to \Settings\Today\Items and uncheck Windows Default.
If you install, this and only this HTC taskmanager.
Because it always works flawlessly
htc_task_2.1.cab
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4924380&postcount=1
And then this program:
MMAppLauncher v1.0.CAB
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795393
start with windows
override start meny
You get 7-10 mb free memory.
The biggest problem is that this program was never completed and make a shortcut for the camera so that you can not start the camera without problems.

Well I have great news.
I have been able to figure out how to build ROMs using the newer style ROMs from LG.
This means that I can use the OEMDrivers from the GW825V and GW820_V10g.
It also means I can build ROMs for the GW825V.
I'm just working on a test ROM that I can post to see if it works for everyone.

Of course that it appears to try as soon as possible.
Because this is a totally useless device!
On t-mobile, can not even mms!!
Has little to, no longer working link to dragonstorm roms.
All the other ones are full of bugs, or use lots of memory to
slow machine.
ROM from AT & T has too many programs that no one will ever use.
So a nice little handy device and fast or should be.
When with task manager FdcSoft v3.3 stop all unnecessary processes, it works most quickly as well as HD2.
Only GAPI drivers are slow as the HTC Wizard or worse.
example:
GAPIBench 1.5-arm on the float test Topaz 1.6800
On the IQ 0.6900
Very gladly start up left.
Because lots and lots of programs simply will not work otherwise inc beautiful program Total Commander.

great news trueg. Look forward to testing it out!

OK, here is the first test.
I'm not sure in what format you guys want these distributed.
I simply zipped up my LGMOBILEAX folder and uploaded it to MediaFire.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ibkzdxnlp5h8umu/LG_Monaco_Test01.zip
In Windows XP, you would simply extract this to
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\
For Windows 7, extract here...
C:\Users\All Users\
I use 7-zip...
http://www.7-zip.org/
Then run
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LGMOBILEAX\SmartPhoneSetup\SP_Starter.exe
If you are running a stock ROM, the application should automatically reboot your phone into emergency mode and start flashing.
If it doesn't (gives error that it can't detect phone), you will need to reset your phone manually and hold down the space button on the keyboard to enter emergency mode.
This ROM should work on GW820, GW825 and GW825V (all LG Monaco devices).
The OEMDrivers are based off of the GW825V. The rest is almost directly from GW820_v10g (AT&T).
Since this is just a test I didn't make many changes.
Please let me know if this works and if there are any problems.
If it works, I will use this as a base for the 6.5 ROM.
The reason I used the GW825V OEMDrivers is because it provides more RAM and storage (take a look at the Memory).
TrueG

Downloading it now...
What sys build is this based on?