Does Verizon GPS use data? - Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development

i know that when i set up the GPS to work on my phone i had to put in some IP adresses and such. does this mean it is using my data? i have an unlimited plan so it doesnt matter here in the states. i travel though so i would like to leave my phone in airplane mode but still use the GPS. i have IGO8 on there so it doesnt need internet like google maps does. i want it in airplaine mode so i dont get calls or texts, i just want GPS, thats all.

I don't believe that the GPS will work in airplane mode & I know that mine will not. Airplane mode is designed not to transmit anything. You can however simply turn of the radio via the comm manager

yup
unless you unlock you will be using data for gps. search for the unlocks to figure that one out. otherwise use your data plan for gps

is it not already unloaked? how could it work at all on Verizon if it were not unlocked?

most carriers have the GPS locked on the phone and you have to pay a fee (mines telus and i think its 10$), but after i unlocked my phone and flashed it with NFS rom then it "free" becuase GPS does not use data to transmit info it, uses the radio and that a "free of charge". Most people that have verizon, there is a special way of getting the GPS to work, search the forums and for sure you will find info to how to unlock and properly get the GPS to work.

Latest rom from bell uses unlocked radio, tried with stock rom from bell and GPS runs fine (phone wasn't activated when I tried)
Telus' rom uses the same radio, so I asume that if you'd load the latest *official rom and installed Garmin (or any other GPS soft) it would work.
But while you're at it, why not crack that badboy so you can run any rom out there!
Latest release, either WM6.1 or 6.5, are pretty neat!

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Help! Wi-fi...unlocking...what do i do?

I'm new to all this i just got a verizon VX6900 and put the data block on it, because i thought i would be able to use Wifi for free. How do i enable the Wifi on the device? Also i've read a few things about unlocking, would this be something i need to do and what is it? Any suggestions?
Sounds like you need to do some more research !
There is NO Wi-Fi on this device!
well i have Wifi on my comm manager so why is that?
Because you probably flashed a custom ROM and it has it. There is no wi fi on htc vogue.
So the vx6900(Htc Vogue) has no internet capabilities other than the phone companies data package?
CMerriken said:
So the vx6900(Htc Vogue) has no internet capabilities other than the phone companies data package?
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Yes, if you wanted Wi-Fi, you should have gotten the Titan, xv6800.
wifi
be nice champjt he has bluetooth... that is close to wifi isnt it?
cmerrik, you can connect to the internet via tether (cord that plugs mini usb to usb). thats the best way to charge and only way to get free internet via your pc. if not too late (30 day window) you can return it. if you have verizon i think the vx6800 has wifi but check first. wifi is big beef of mine for the touch. you have gps but you if you have vz you have to unlock the phone with a cooked rom (non oem) and load a rom on it... but read up first cause if you screw up you get a bricked phone.
Some people say there is WiFi hardware on the Vogue, just no antenna.
Nope... Sorry!
There is GPS (now enabled with WM6.1 ROMs) but no Wi-Fi...
CDMA version does not have WiFi but the GSM version does.
I hope that helps.

What does GPS actually require to work?

This might be a noob question, but I have a question regarding the GPS.
Does it require data to work? Or does it require data to work for certain GPS features?
I am going to Europe and need to decide if I will need to take my N85 unlocked and try and get a local SIM card there. I want to geotag my photos but don't know if you can since the EVO has no international roaming capabilities.
Does Geotagging (or any other GPS feature) require data to work or can some GPS functions work by connecting directly to the satellites?
pekosROB said:
This might be a noob question, but I have a question regarding the GPS.
Does it require data to work? Or does it require data to work for certain GPS features?
I am going to Europe and need to decide if I will need to take my N85 unlocked and try and get a local SIM card there. I want to geotag my photos but don't know if you can since the EVO has no international roaming capabilities.
Does Geotagging (or any other GPS feature) require data to work or can some GPS functions work by connecting directly to the satellites?
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GPS will require data, especially if you plan on using some form of Geotagging.
Definitely take your N85 unlocked and have a SIM card -- leave your EVO at home, since the EVO is CDMA based and almost all networks in Europe are GSM based, your EVO won't be doing any calling/texting -- that is unless you want to get a huge ass bill for roaming every second?
I'm not 100% positive, but the way it works is that the GPS on the phone will try to connect to your carriers tower first and get all the information it needs from there... then any information it can't retrieve or has to upload (maps, geotag, etc) it'll use a universal satellites. These satellites are the ones that your phone connects to if it has to be tracked if you get lost (via 911) and are also the same ones Google probably uses for Maps, Navigation, etc -- since they provide a large amount of information.
Hope that helps.
pseudoremora said:
GPS will require data, especially if you plan on using some form of Geotagging.
Definitely take your N85 unlocked and have a SIM card -- leave your EVO at home, since the EVO is CDMA based and almost all networks in Europe are GSM based, your EVO won't be doing any calling/texting -- that is unless you want to get a huge ass bill for roaming every second?
I'm not 100% positive, but the way it works is that the GPS on the phone will try to connect to your carriers tower first and get all the information it needs from there... then any information it can't retrieve or has to upload (maps, geotag, etc) it'll use a universal satellites. These satellites are the ones that your phone connects to if it has to be tracked if you get lost (via 911) and are also the same ones Google probably uses for Maps, Navigation, etc -- since they provide a large amount of information.
Hope that helps.
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Above information on GPS is wrong, I am not sure where to start to correct it. Lets not, and simply respond to the original question:
GPS is a global network, and works without any data. In fact a GPS device is receive only device, so it cannot even send. If you have a GPS device, it will work all over the world, though it may take a while in clear sky to get a cold fix for the first time after you crossed the Atlantic.
There is something called AGPS or assisted-GPS, which does use data by first requesting a rough fix from the phone network as well as the current position of all the GPS sats, which will speed up the first fix of the GPS a lot, but that is not needed per se, so if you have no phone signal, or no data roaming, GPS still works, just the first fix may take a bit longer.
Mind you, some phones have a broken AGPS implementation, which behaves strange on some phone networks, so you may want to configure it not to even try to use AGPS when abroad. Have it fall back to regular GPS. Then there will be no roaming or attempted roaming on behave of the GPS. GPS will never provide a (navigation) map, it will only ever give you a position, but for tagging, that is all you need.
As to your specific phones, I do not know the EVO specifically, but assuming Sprint did not put in some program to completely bock the phone when out of its network, since it is Android it will simply let you make pictures and GPS tag them without any network.
You do want to bring your Nokia though if you want to call people, Europe is indeed close to 100% GSM based on the 900 and 1800 Mhz frequencies.
cybermaus said:
Above information on GPS is wrong, I am not sure where to start to correct it. Lets not, and simply respond to the original question:
GPS is a global network, and works without any data. In fact a GPS device is receive only device, so it cannot even send. If you have a GPS device, it will work all over the world, though it may take a while in clear sky to get a cold fix for the first time after you crossed the Atlantic.
There is something called AGPS or assisted-GPS, which does use data by first requesting a rough fix from the phone network as well as the current position of all the GPS sats, which will speed up the first fix of the GPS a lot, but that is not needed per se, so if you have no phone signal, or no data roaming, GPS still works, just the first fix may take a bit longer.
Mind you, some phones have a broken AGPS implementation, which behaves strange on some phone networks, so you may want to configure it not to even try to use AGPS when abroad. Have it fall back to regular GPS. Then there will be no roaming or attempted roaming on behave of the GPS. GPS will never provide a (navigation) map, it will only ever give you a position, but for tagging, that is all you need.
As to your specific phones, I do not know the EVO specifically, but assuming Sprint did not put in some program to completely bock the phone when out of its network, since it is Android it will simply let you make pictures and GPS tag them without any network.
You do want to bring your Nokia though if you want to call people, Europe is indeed close to 100% GSM based on the 900 and 1800 Mhz frequencies.
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I figured I was wrong, I stand corrected.

Can't get GPS lock in Korea

During a recent visit to Korea, I had 0 luck getting a GPS lock, even after using FasterFix to set GPS pools to Korea and Asia, and clearing aGPS each time with GPS Status. I tried stock EL29, stock ICS leaks, AOKP, and CM9. My Toshiba Thrive, however, was able to get a lock without a problem, and my og EVO was always able to get a lock. I can get a lock in airplane mode just fine in the states. Is the E4GT unable to acquire GPS locks outside of the States or is it just Korea? What's everyone else's experience with using GPS outside of the states?
If you had airplane mode on then that is most likely the problem. I experienced the same problem in the UK and New Zealand, for some reason it won't lock in airplane mode. I had limited success with getting a lock with airplane mode off and then turning it back on again, but the only surefire way was to have airplane mode disabled completely. Only downside is a bit higher battery drain as it looks for a non-existent CDMA signal.
perhaps that was the culprit. i always kept it in airplane mode but left wifi and gps turned on. that blows. my thrive and og evo have always been left in airplane mode, so i wonder why samsung doesn't like airplane mode.
I think it is a bug in their radio firmware or system drivers.
I think it is due to either limitation or lazy coding with their use of separate older qualcomm modem/radio subsystem and their own CPU.
I believe if they had more recent pure qualcomm solution and started with qualcomm source base, GPS would work like other phones.
Probably GS3 will have it fixed since it is a pure qualcomm solution.
I was in Korea at the end of March using the EL19 modem and I had no issue what so ever getting an accurate GPS lock. I was able to rome the streets and hillsides only using my phone GPS.
I was activated for voice and data over SK Telecom though. Hope this helps.
The bug we are talking about is GPS won't work with airplane mode enabled.
Why is that considered a bug? I thought the idea behind airplane mode was to shut off all radios that send or receive a signal. No?
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Why is that considered a bug? I thought the idea behind airplane mode was to shut off all radios that send or receive a signal. No?
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It is to disable all radios that send.
A passive GPS receiver is not going to affect anything so there is no reason to shut it off.
Other phones' GPS work fine with Airplane mode enabled.
Also user has explicitly enabled GPS in Airplane Mode.
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. On a side note, without following all the other threads, are you getting out a fe22 one-click tonight? I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Imadroider said:
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. On a side note, without following all the other threads, are you getting out a fe22 one-click tonight? I wouldn't miss it for the world.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694695
He's always one step ahead of us.
I used my gps hiking today with cardiotrainer in an area with no signal, airplane mode on. Worked perfectly. Was on stock FE07 sfhub one click.
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Was it outside the states? i'm able to use my gps in airplane mode when im in the states. i guess i should've specified that in the first post.
Once you get GPS lock, you can usually turn on Airplane mode and GPS will continue to work. It is just that initial lock where it wants to contact A-GPS servers where it often won't get lock unless you have signal. In this situation you should be able to turn on Airplane mode and have the GPS work in total standalone mode.
that makes sense, but if it only needs to contact those agps servers then a wifi connection should suffice, right?
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that makes sense, but if it only needs to contact those agps servers then a wifi connection should suffice, right?
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I don't think these are the Google location servers. I believe they are the snaptrack tower-based agps servers (ie you can't connect to them from arbitrary IP addresses anywhere in the world)
If properly configured (by the manufacturer) these phones are supposed to be able to operate in complete standalone GPS mode. The best time to configure that would be in Airplane mode, where it doesn't make sense to do A-GPS. That's how other phones have it configured.
BTW I saw this same type of bug on Palm Treo 800w
do you think there's anyway to port those configurations to the e4gt?
I think there is a bug in the radio. I've configured NVRAM to specify standalone mode and I still can't get it to work in standalone mode. At first I thought I got it to work, but it was only because my USB cable was connected during the reboot. This somehow left the GPS running even after reboot, tricking me into thinking it was working in airplane/standalone mode.
Back in the WinMo days, there were registry entries where we could configure standalone and various assisted modes, but we found some radios just ignored your settings and some followed them.
Many manufacturers have almost zero interest in fixing GPS bugs. If Google maps brings up your location under some situations, they consider GPS working.
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Will GPS work in airplane mode?

I'll be in Malaysia next week with my trust nexus and will have internet (via an xcom global mifi) and was hoping that GPS would work without a phone signal. Last time I traveled to Germany with my sprint touch pro 2 I learned the hard way that a 15min lock time made the phone useless without a signal. Any ideas?
Also I was planning on forwarding my google voice number to my skype mobile number and just running skype for all calls- sound like a good solution? thanks in advance
As long as you have an internet connection it won't take the long time to lock. Doesn't have to be a cell connection, WiFi will do just fine.
GV forwarding to Skype should work just fine too. Just make sure the Skype app is set to run in the background.
I actually downloaded NavFree from the playstore (there's 2 version; one for USA and one for international). You will have to download the maps to your phones internal storage prior to running the nav, but it worked for me flawlessly here in Cali, USA. Don't even have a sim card in my Nexus and I got it to guide me without a hick up. Almost instant lock too.
thanks!! 2 more questions
1) I couldn't find a map for Malaysia for Navfree- any suggestions?
2) Do you think I could put the sim card from the xcom global mifi into my nexus and use the APN setting to get data directly on my phone? I will give it a try when I get there
Requires a lot more work if you are not running a custom rom...
Upgrade to a custom jelly bean rom, then use the new version of Google maps which will allow you to save maps offline (no data connection)

[Q] GPS doesn't work without downloading GPS data from the internet.

Hello,
I have Galaxy nexus factory rom 4.2.2 (unlocked and rooted) and I am very angry with GPS offline locking. I was used from other devices like HTC that all I need is just to turn on GPS and it will get the signal right away without a need to download any data for better locking. And I don't understand what it can't be that simple on Galaxy nexus GSM.
If I start for example "GPS status" app and this app is not able to download GPS location it WON'T lock ( it gets for example 3-4 satellites for a while and then all satellites disappears and it starts locking for satellites again.. - finds few satellites and drop them afterward but never lock if no data connection....) etc. ! I also tried to reset GPS data. But if I let it use data connection (wifi) it works right away like charm!
I don't really understand how it works. I guess it needs to download some kind of first lock data location according to my carrier or location internet provider. I am using NAVIGATOR for GPS navigation.
question 1:
is there any way how to make the phone work just by turning GPS on without using any data connection ?
question2:
If not, is there any way how I can pre-download the GPS location so I don't need to download it from the internet but just load it from the saved file or something?
I was searching but didn't find this kind of problem.
Thanks for any help.
I'll piggy-back on that thread since I'm having the same problem.
I moved my Galaxy Nexus (GSM, Maguro) from the stock Android to Cyanogenmod over a year ago, and noticed that GPS just won't work when I'm in a foreign country, ie. without a data connection while it works fine in my home country with a data connection.
Even after riding around outside for a whole day in open fields, GPS still won't locate me without a data connection.
I also noticed that while travelling abroad, GPS will locate me within a few seconds after I connect to the Net through a wifi connection.
Before I get a GPS + Glonass smartphone, I was wondering if someone knows if the problem is software-related and has a fix.
Here's what I'm currently running:
Android 4.4.4
CyanogenMod 11.0-Installer-XNPQ32P
Baseband version I9250XXLJ1
Thank you.

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