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Softbank HTC desire

Okay, a couple of stupid questions.
1) Does anyone know if Softbank will be using the 850/2100 3G desire like the Telstra version or the "normal" 1900/2100 3G version.
2) I plan on buying the Softbank version as I live in Japan and am getting tired of my iPhone 3GS and it's limitations (even with jailbreaking it). If no one knows what bands the Softbank version runs is it possible to check easily when I have the phone (should be out Tuesday)?
Thank you in advance for the help.

Just a thought, if you live there, just go to the nearest softbank shop and ask?

I live in japan but unfortunately I do not speak Japanese nor do the English speaking staff on the military base know anything more then "It is coming out soon. We do not know the price yet."
Thank you anyway though.

So, I went to their site to check it out.
Guess what, the site don't even mention about which bands they are using, yay... not.
Neither price for that matter...
Kinda sucky regarding on the info that softbank...

Aye, the info softbank releases sucks, as I said the staff at their shop does not even know the price or the plans available for it. They are not even sure when they will recieve a shipment (though the web site says 27 April that may not be the case for this shop).
I guess the only way to really tell would be to get one and open it? Or would I be able to use the baseband version number to tell?
And if I have to open it would someone with a non-softbank one be willing to break their warranty and open theirs? I am guessing not this soon
Again thank you.

Hey before you go "Tis time to crack open the me brand new phone!" on Desire, can't you shoot off a mail to HTC Japan and ask?
If someone, they of all ppl should know imo.

Ah, yes, I forgot that HTC Japan would very likely know what is going on, Thanks mate.

Any time dude

I sent HTC an email about the frequency bands used by the saftbank X06HT useing their website. I will post their reply, incase anyone else is curious.
As a side note, I forgot to mention softbank uses the 2100 frequency for their connection (No GSM, only 3G here) so that is why I was wondering since either phone will work but only the Ausie on will work when I return to the US in about a year.

Getting mine on Tuesday - The shop said they would have stock, but maybe not in the Morning. Glad I was the first to reserve mine on the 1st.

I did not notice the new phone until after the 15th so I could not reserve one but I am hoping I can get one before the 1st.

Forgot to mention, the details for the phone are on the HTC Japan website. Here are the supported channels/frequencies.
国内 W-CDMA方式
海外 W-CDMA方式、GSM方式（850／900／1,800／1,900MHz

W-CDMA is 3G not a specific frequency though if I am reading what I have found online correctly.

I'll be in Japan on Friday for 3 weeks, I'd appreciate if someone finds a good clear silicone case for the Desire on sale over there and post about it here. Thanks

Well. HTC sent me an email back, telling me contact softbank. It is a mute point now because if you did not order the phone before 22 April it will be delayed until end of may . I think I will just order a Google Nexus One and have my mom ship it to me. Thank you all for the help.

_Dennis_ said:
Well. HTC sent me an email back, telling me contact softbank. It is a mute point now because if you did not order the phone before 22 April it will be delayed until end of may . I think I will just order a Google Nexus One and have my mom ship it to me. Thank you all for the help.
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As I know,X06ht is available from Softbank Store for a user who sign a new contract with Softbank

I spoke with them yesterday. People who didn't reserve their phone early enough (~1st week June) will have to wait until the end of May to get theirs.
Also, I had a really hard time finding anything to protect the phone with. They have the screen protectors which is good, but no cases. I went for a generic pouch for the time being.

http://mb.softbank.jp/en/ is (probabely) your friend

receive my x06ht 3 weeks ago.. anybody knows how to unlock the sim? just rooted my device

krill_ppktj said:
receive my x06ht 3 weeks ago.. anybody knows how to unlock the sim? just rooted my device
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goldcard+offical rom
good luck

Operator Desire VS proper SIM free Desire

Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?

The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!

£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.

I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.

me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?

cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can

me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.

cirian75 said:
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!

EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.

cirian75 said:
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S

mancuk29 said:
!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360

steveapp said:
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset

just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version

£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+

Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil

I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.

EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.

[Q] Is it possible to buy this phone not from Bell?

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone in Toronto area would know a place to buy the HTC Desire Z that isn't from Bell?
Or if it is from Bell, contains no Bell software (unbranded) and is unlocked?
I've been looking and haven't had any luck.
and has anyone noticed that Rogers is falling behind in the phone model area? Their phones are kind of getting outdated...
Thanks!

I uphave one unlocked with rogers....yeh there wayy behimd in terms of android. I suggest checking out kijiji.com or look at ebay or craigslist. If all else fails pm me and ill find you some online.
Sent from HTC Desire Z using XDA App

I purchased an unlocked/unbranded Desire Z on Ebay to use in the states on the AT&T network. It was a North American Version which had the correct 3G bands for ATT. Had a good seller and good experience but the phone was quite pricey. They go for anywhere between $550 and $650 US.

I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.

rewen said:
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
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Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?

Nighte said:
Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
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Be careful, because G2 owners have found big problems when they unlock their phones, like not being able to connect to any network after that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835673

Cellunlock.net with the code bbrocks50 for half price. You can find the phone listed a couple different ways. Either by first looking up htc or by first looking up bell. One is chapter than the other. I paid 15.
Zero issues unlocking. I think the issues are limited to g2.

I'm unlocked with Telus currently..and I used HTCsimUnlowNow.com. Seemed to work fine..the only thing was it was initially $15, but then I had to send them another $10 (after paying the 15) because of the Bell carrier or some excuse. So far i've had no problems..and i'm even able to use my BB data plan with the HTC despite Telus telling me it most likely wouldnt work lol.

I was wondering if I'm able to remove Bell's software using a program (TitaniumBackup, for example) or do I have to go through that whole process of flashing this and that to unbrand it?
And how bothersome is the Bell software?
..Although I'm gonna do it anyway but I don't have time right now to mod the phone.

You need root and it takes a lot of time to do it with titanium. It's easier to flash the wwe rom. But the apps aren't too annoying. The lack of htc locations is annoying

To elaborate on my last msg (which I wrote in a rush)..
It's more painful and takes longer to remove the apps manually as you need to root and then use Titanium's force remove method, one by one, which reboots the phone each time and takes forever.
Alternatively you could root and then S-OFF and delete those apps with the root file manager.
Or, the easiest/quickest way imho is to borrow/make a goldcard, download the euro HTC Sync, the WWE Rom, and run the ROM install program. It does the rest of the work for you

I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?

Nighte said:
I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
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I asked at our local Best Buy (Oshawa) yesterday and they said they can sell the phone without a plan, no problem.

I bought mine today, you can buy it at WirelessWave or Telephone booth for the retail price.
I did notice the timestamp on the text messages are incorrect though, does anyone else have this problem?

I bought mine brand new on ebay for $375, t-mobile branded.. paid $15 to unlock it.
I suggest watching for a cheap one on ebay, maybe even try to bargain with some sellers.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I suggest not buying from bell, or anything that is compatible with bell, unless you need it for ATT US or in Australia. Reason is that they use the wrong frequencies for use in Canada and would lock you to ROBELUS (the old evil phone companies). The US version of the vision is better... still compatible with robbers, but also with the best things that have happened to telecommunications in canada.... ever.

It sounds like we should start an exchange:
T-Mobile/Wind compatible phones exchanged for Bell/Telus/Rogers/AT&T compatible phones...
I'm on AT&T and I'd love to find the Bell Desire Z for purchase at a reasonable price. All the prices I've seen are ~$650 but the phones retail price is $500. Maybe I'm just not used to Canadian taxes... can my Canadian brethren enlighten this ignorant American as to how much the phone would cost unsubsidized after taxes?

You can get them straight from Bell for $565, with tax (13% on 499.95). If you look on kijiji and CL you can get them anywhere from $400-$500.
I bought mine yesterday for $480, no tax, and factory unlocked. It was brand new and sealed and came with a receipt for the warranty.
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.

MyNameIsWepeel said:
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
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You can get it locked for free now, thanks to the fantastic work of scotty. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390

I'm on Rogers and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find out. Everyone wants to charge an arm and a leg. Trying to trade my Xperia X10 and some cash for a Desire Z.

[Q] T-Mobile UK - Unbranded?

I'm thinking of getting the DHD, but before I do can others in the UK who have one on T-Mobile confirm that it's totally unbranded please?
Thanks!

Confirmed that it's totally unbranded.
However it would be useful for you be informed it's network locked.

Mines unbranded unlocked (sim free) although I had mine in the FIRST few days of release.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I got mine a week ago and its unbranded, no sin to check network lock though
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Get it from CPW ot P4U and it'll be unbranded. I believe, as has been said, all the early ones even from the operators are unbranded but no telling what will happen in the next few months.
Dave - unbranded Vodafone DHD from CPW
PS: the above applies to contract and SIM only. Not necessarily to PAYG (was in the shop today talking about a new phone for my old man...)

Mine was un branded but Sim locked

Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?

yep, mine was unbranded and unlocked from tmobile

I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.

Daz555 said:
I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.
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Yeah, I considered elsewhere but they (T-Mobile) did me a good deal as an upgrade. I wonder if they are saying they have them in stock on the T-Mobile site when they haven't or are giving them to new contracts only...

iridium21 said:
Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?
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Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.

At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean the phone has no mention of the network at all?
If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends' app.
Not to mention the homepage on the internet browser was set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
Or does it just mean that T-Mobile isn't actually printed on the phone?

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At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean it has no mention of the network at all? If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends app, as well as the homepage on the internet browser being set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
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Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
I've never had a 'branded' phone before, so how does one go about repairs - can you send it straight to HTC or do you have to go through T-Mobile?
Oh, and any tips for flashing a stock ROM?

iridium21 said:
Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
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Haha, don't worry, its software only..
From what I can gather, maybe you can flash a custom ROM? The t-mobile apps can at least be deleted with titanium backup.

Dyonas said:
Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.
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What exactly is the camera misalignment issue? My camera lens isn't centered, is this a problem, or is it normal? Haven't noticed any problems with it from actually using the camera..
As for the small gaps, if you're referring to the SIM cover, I never had a problem with it after reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827091 before I got the HD.

Got my DHD today - unlocked & unbranded
I'm happy!

O2 uk and firmware updates

Why are o2 so bloody slow at releasing software updates? Lets face it what different from three UK or orange UK software? all o2 do is add there own apps.
Every phone I have had from o2 has been the same slow at updating. I didn't want to root this phone yet has I see no real reason, now am thinking I should just to get away from waiting for o2.

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Why are o2 so bloody slow at releasing software updates? Lets face it what different from three UK or orange UK software? all o2 do is add there own apps.
Every phone I have had from o2 has been the same slow at updating. I didn't want to root this phone yet has I see no real reason, now am thinking I should just to get away from waiting for o2.
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Yea I agree, I'm still on 1.26 so two updates have been released and we still haven't got any.
I don't want to root mine yet either if at all, having said that I don't have any major issues, music skips frequently which is an annoyance so it would be good to get the update for that because it apparently fixes that.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

This was my primary reason for no longer going to o2 for upgrades. My previous two phones have been from CPW and my HOX was from Phones4U - the reason being that they both supply unbranded phones on identical tariffs to those from o2. Lesson learnt from my Symbian days - waiting forever for branded updates.

I got fed up waiting and installed ARHD. I had a SGS 2 before and o2 were one of the first to update to ics but they are letting everyone down this time
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Also I read rooting it will not update things like the radio? Or at least what I have read....
Anyway am on Three and only updated to 1.28 this morning, but yes now stuck with an older firmware until they bring out 1.29......

I totally agree, O2 completely suck with these updates. HTC are releasing updates to help people resolve issues they are having with the device, but it seems O2 couldn't care less if people are having the problems or not.
I previously got my phones from Carphone Warehouse but on this occasion I went to O2 because the contracts at Carphone were more expensive. However, a week after getting my phone Carphone emailed me saying that I could get an upgrade and their tariffs would not be beaten by carriers and they would match them. Unfortunatley I was on holiday at the time so I couldn't return my phone to O2 and go to Carphone.
O2 really need to pull their fingers out and give a **** about their customers.

Just got of the phone with O2 and happened to get through to someone who has same device. He said O2 do have the update and are looking at rolling it out first Q this month. He said we should have it by 14th.

Thanks for the info. Hope you are right.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Lets get o2 on @BBCWatchdog
No harm in trying everthing else fails
Lets get o2 on @BBCWatchdog here is my tweet best i could think off please feel free to add ur own #O2 is holding back vital updates 4 #HTCONEX other networks have released them as they are bug updates for battery improvements

Well this is weird! I got the 28 update pretty much as soon as it was available. and I expect the same to happend with 29 when it is available in UK. I am on O2 contract

technostein said:
Well this is weird! I got the 28 update pretty much as soon as it was available. and I expect the same to happend with 29 when it is available in UK. I am on O2 contract
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am still on 1.26 did u get urs directly from o2

technostein said:
Well this is weird! I got the 28 update pretty much as soon as it was available. and I expect the same to happend with 29 when it is available in UK. I am on O2 contract
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Is your phone branded to o2? can you use any sim you want? or is this o2 only? Seems you have a un-branded phone and using o2 sim only

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Is your phone branded to o2? can you use any sim you want? or is this o2 only? Seems you have a un-branded phone and using o2 sim only
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I have no idea. I ordered it offline pre ordered from phones 4 u?? If it's still weird I will try another sim card?

technostein said:
I have no idea. I ordered it offline pre ordered from phones 4 u?? If it's still weird I will try another sim card?
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Yer am almost 100% your phone is un-branded and you can use any sim.

I am hoping that it's gonna be 1.29 we will recieve. Some even talk about 1.30 coming in a couple of days.
It is really annoying to be stuck on 1.26.
Wish I ordered my phone from phones4u.
I didn't expect this and the ugly laggy boot animation I got. Why is this god for them?
At least customer service was nice enough to make it simfree for free. Other than tha, shame on you o2.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Any news anyone? Ahahahahaha o2 are ****in ****
Sent from my HTC One X

Kickasskev said:
Any news anyone? Ahahahahaha o2 are ****in ****
Sent from my HTC One X
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No update yet. I think it could just be that O2 are more cautious. v1.28 didn't fix some of the faults reported, and if they knew of 1.29 or even 1.30 the sensible thing to do would be to wait to reduce the number of updates.
The average user gets fed up of updates quickly, and I know some people that don't bother because of it.
You won't get to speak to anyone at O2 that knows what's going on - the engineers etc are separate from customer services (who know nothing, despite what they might think). It's best to just wait.

I take it there is no ruu we can use instead?

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Well this is weird! I got the 28 update pretty much as soon as it was available. and I expect the same to happend with 29 when it is available in UK. I am on O2 contract
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Same here I got the .28 update right away ! o2 UK contract Although I did get my phone from Phones 4 u

det66 said:
Same here I got the .28 update right away ! o2 UK contract Although I did get my phone from Phones 4 u
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As has been stated - phones from Phones4U are not O2 branded. That is why you get the update.