After upgrading my IPAQ 4705 to WM6, I needed to replace the backup battery. After reassembly, the screen display isn't working correctly:
On a soft reset the first screen is correct. It's the right size and has the right size text and looks perfect in all respects. The next screen, however, shows an image that is 10 times too large for the screen. As an example, on a hard reset, it shows the correct screen, then I see the words "align screen" with the word "align" taking 3/4 of the screen and each letter being 3/4 of an inch high. The word "screen" starts on the right side and wraps around to the left side. The touch screen works, but the crosses are also large and I can't get past the align screen. I can activesync in without problem. I tried removing the welcome link to bypass alignment, but then I see the same huge text for the Today screen and all other screens.
I have carefully looked at the ribbon cable to the screen, and there is one wire that is suspect. It looks like something struck the cable right at that point. Under a microscope, the wire "looks" OK, but I can't be certain. I don't want to try to "fix" this hardware problem if it's not the problem. Since some screens display correctly, I was wondering if this could be some kind of scaling issue. Perhaps a register is storing some scale factor that would be corrected if I could align the screen, but I can't.
I would have expected the ROM reset or hard reset to fix this, but then again. maybe not.
I've tried switching ROMS, but I get the same problem with all.
Does anyone have specs for the connector or ribbon cable to the screen? I suspect that the one possibly bad wire could go to the touch screen part and the screens that look OK are ROM images (drawn without reference to the touch screen), while the bad ones are being scaled by some error in the touch screen input.
Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
IpaqOwner3 said:
I have carefully looked at the ribbon cable to the screen, and there is one wire that is suspect. It looks like something struck the cable right at that point.
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I was able to trace this wire back, scrape away some of overlay to access the copper and test this wire. It was broken - no connection. It must be part of the touch screen sensing system (even though the touch screen worked). Using some SMT rework tools, flux, fine solder and very fine wire, I was able to bypass the broken single wire in the ribbon cable, and it's now working fine.
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Hi,
I have a problem with XDA - it is stuck at the align screen and keeps looping the cross over the screen forever.
I have reflashed rom a few time, I have disassambled the phone - cleaned the contacts, cleaned the screen, removed the schotch from the lcd 4 connectors. I even tried to glue a big piece of schotch to the screen pull the touchscreen of the lcd a bit...
nothing helps so far!!!
Do I need a new touchscreen? I really would like to fix this one, because it shouldn't be broken - it looks so nice and clean!?!!!!
Please help me!!
I found that pressure applied to the bottom left corner of the touchscreen behind the today screen button will cure touchscreen problems. When dissasembled it would be the area where the 4 leads branch off the touchscreen. I tested by slipping a doubled over piece of paper under that left corner (with the unit fully assembled). It put just enough pressure on that area that the touchscreen started working again! Try it, might work.
Thanks, but nope - stucking a paper under the casing didn't help.
I have managed to get pass align screen by deleting welcome file on PocketPC/windows/startup, but still the screen is faulty as the bottom and the top part of the screen doesn't respond to stylus!
What could this mean? Is there something wrong with the robon cable? Could reattaching the ribon cable help?!
Guess what! Just fixed the touchscreen - everybody said it's impossible - I don't know how I did it - just removed the ribon cable and soldered it back - it worked for me!!
Thanks all!!
XDA iis digitizer replacement and align screen solved
Ok to start with it is nearly impossible to solder the ribbon from a new digitizer on to a ppc lcd. I screwed up a screen trying to do that with a so called fine soldering iron but this is micro soldering, looks to be only possible by a machine. Dont glue it either as i've heard its bad too but if some one has had success then post and let us know. I just sticky taped it to the 4 metal connection lines. The ribbon is slightly see through and can easily line up.
Now when I had done this the screen align kept cycling. Yes even up to 20 times would not fix it but if you go back to the ribbon connection and make sure it is exactly on mark then you'll know the connection is ok. If the align screen responds to your taps well then it is just either the ppc getting used to the new digitizer or what I found was shuffling around the screws and making sure the insides of the ppc were snug and nothing pressing too hard on the lcd. The comment on placing a piece of cardboard was a good sujestion as when I screwed the whole thing together it suddenly aligned.
When the ppc finished installing, the alignment was a bit off by half a centimeter so i ran the align screen utility from settings again and it aligned! Now it works. Fingers crossed.
No response from a seemingly perfect touchscreen.
Hello guys it seems you guys have mastered correcting touch screen problems. If you would take a moment of time out of your day to help a dumb college kid. I have a SX66 and it has worked perfect and has remained to be a cool phone thanks to this site and the developers. I have retraced my steps a million times and here is what happened. I was surfin the web on my phone at school and the battery dropped off. I put the battery back on but the phone would not power up. 30 minutes later I tried my backup battery and bingo it powered on. But the touchscreen does not work at all. I took the phone apart and made sure connections were good and all was good. And as a last resort I reflashed my copy of wm6 to the phone. There is no cracks or blemishes on the screen. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated
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Hello Tech GURUS,
I returned from a long tour (I kept my XDA EXEC at home) & found that my XDA EXEC has got a problem of WHITE SCREEN!! Nothing is Displayed!!
May be brother's childrens or anyone of my friend accidentally did it in my absence(Sorry I'm NOT Sure). May be they pivoted (Turned) the screen in a WRONG DIRECTION!
That doesn't matter WHO DID IT, But the problem screwed my head & I started to trace the problem.
Symptoms:
1) Only WHITE SCREEN(with LCD Backlight), Nothing Else.
2) Charges perfectly through USB & also from Charger.
3) When I connects it to ACTIVE SYNC, it Syncs fine & I can able to explore the files/folders. Copy from & to the handset memory is also works fine.
4) Tried to enter into BOOTLOADER Mode(by pressing Light+Power+Reset), there also got a BLANK SCREEN (NO LCD Backlight).
5) TOUCH SCREEN detects TAPs & make sounds (Tick Tick), That indicates Touch Screen Working fine.
6) Qwerty KeyBoard Works fine. I don't know at what extent, since I can't see nothing on screen. But when I press a key on QWERTY Kbrd, it sounds Tick.
7) Transfered(Beamed) a CONTACT from my another XDA IIi & found Its accepted the beamed data.
8) Volume Up/Down make sounds (Tick, Tick...).
What I Did:
1) Removed the Battery & re-inserted & tried to BOOT it. NO result, just a WHITE SCREEN.
2) Purposely Tried to Rotate the Screen in Wrong Direction to test the loose contacts of co-axial cable.
3) Lastly Dis-Assembled the whole handset (Removed all parts 100%) & Re-Assembled it. But the Problem remains SAME.
4) Dis-Assembled again & this time I tested the LCD Co-Axial Cable's connectivity from MainBoard side connector to LCD Side Connector. There are 2 Cables which connects to LCD. One is 30 Cores Cable & Second one is 40 Cores Cable.
I Successfully tested 30 Cores Cable(Actually it used only 28cores cable, remaining 2 points at connector are DUMMY) & Second 40 Cores Cable I'm UNABLE to Test Since I lost my patience while connecting my Testing Meter to Hair Line sized cores & in just an 10mm connector got 40 cores!!!
5) Observed all cores which passes through SCREEN ROTATOR BASE Hinges & found there is NO physical Damage or CORE CUT.
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
JUST CONFUSED & SEEKING HELP FROM TECH GURUS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
HellCrusher.
Hi hellcrusher,
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
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This seems to be a hardware problem. Check connectors in the display housing first. This unit is quite easy to disassemble.
Before you start, you should have a look in the universal SERVICE MANUAL to check out how it gets torn apart .
If all connectors to the display are right in place, but your display still shows nothing ...open the universal body too.
Folow the steps in the manual
Regards,
scholbert
White Screen
Hello, this is my first post. May I first just say how great I think this site is, the guides on here really are useful to beginners.
With regard to the white screen, not sure if this helps, but during dismantling of my various PDAs, I managed to connect an LCD ribbon incorrectly, I kind of forced it in & folded one contact over, resulting in white screen. Disconnected, straightened & refit. Hey presto, works like a charm. Hope this helps.
I had the issue, had to buy a new flat cable
It is rare to actually see the damage to the cable, because the damage is inside the insulation....
Best regards!
On the topic...
Hello!
I have a similar issue with my Orange SPVm5000, except that mine will work for up to a minute after a hard reset before going to a white screen.
If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
Thanks!
Greg.
I have a similar problem. The story;
I purchased an orange branded M5000 on flebay described as second hand in fantastic condition blaa blaa.
When the phone eventualy turned up it had no manual, the outer sleeve of the box was missing and the wrong usb cable was supplyed (one of those larger usb plugs you usualy get for printers.
I have shedlooads of cables and rely wasn't bothered about any of these problems at the time and went about charging the phone (it was totaly flat)
When fully charged I stuck my sim in and poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
I contacted the seller who basicly told me the phone is second hand so sold as seen!?!?!?
I have flashed various roms on it to see if it was a software fault but nothing.
I think this phone had been in storage as its battery was totaly flat and incorrect accessories suggest the seller didn't check it before shipping. So I believe there is a problem with this phone that occurs when stored.
Sorry for the long post
Have you flashed any rom or just had this problem ...
my conclusions:
1. If you have flashed a new rom to your universal, try to reflash the original rom, it works for many users.
2. If you havent flashed any rom, maybe its a hardware problem.
2.1 If you just used it in a bad way, (ie: rotate screen in wrong way), dissamble it..
2.2 If you have let it on a heat, weat, etc.. place.. maybe the mainboard got a cut-circuit.
Saludos
I tryed a couple of popular WM6 roms (I forget whitch ones) and returned to the genuine Orange WM5 rom. So I doubt its a software fault.
As far was extreme conditions go the phone was well packaged when posted I will gove that to the seller SO unless the eposure happened before shipping I don't think thats to blame ether.
I think the wire in the swivle joint is failing and will continue to get worse as the joint is exercised.
Try to clear it up..
Hi there,
i made a lot experiments with the uni, so let me try to focus what's wrong:
First LVTato's Orange SPVm5000
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If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
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Sounds like the image could not be loaded completely.
The framebuffer is initialized correctly after cold boot, but afterwords booting into wince fails.
So maybe it's pure software issue (flash content is corupt -> image is broken).
Other possibility: Some region of your flash is damaged (more hardware related).
jahshappybus' Orange SPVm5000:
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poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
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Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!
So this is what i guess at least.
Regards,
scholbert
White screen
99 % of these white screen faults is a typical cable issue. And you don't have to twist your screen wrong way to have this problem, also.... just twist it too often First you have to see if the device is working, apart the screen.... call the number of your phone see if it is just screen related problem. Broken display cable will leave your device oprational, you just don't see the image.
I know it is "less painfull" for people to think it is a software problem.... (The "it would not happen to me" syndrome ) but sometimes things just brake, and moving parts are most risky...
The fact you don't see the damage is of no importance due to the size and nature of the damage. Don't expect to see broken wires in the cable. And even if you check the cable by you instrument, somethimes it will show you it's ok, but in some positions it will loose contact.
Try a different cable... that way you'll be sure.
Best regards, and all the luck!
"Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!"
I agree and luckily, finally paypal do as well.
It is being boxed up to a red faced seller as we speak.
A happy ending for me (speaking to soon?)
i hav the same problem as u "HELLCRUSHER" and i flashed also but was not able to cure
still hav this white screen ..
Found this link for some where selling the screen cable assmebly.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300254338133
Hope this is of use.
Yesterday i dropped my device from one feet. It turned off and i turned it on.
Now lower part of screen and capacitative buttons dont work. i will attach a image(non-working area outlined in red)
My warranty has expired so i cant exchange it for a new one. What should i do? Can i fix it by myself?
Please help me
Fycola123 said:
Yesterday i dropped my device from one feet. It turned off and i turned it on.
Now lower part of screen and capacitative buttons dont work. i will attach a image(non-working area outlined in red)
My warranty has expired so i cant exchange it for a new one. What should i do? Can i fix it by myself?
Please help me
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Hi,
Only thing I can think of is that somehow it has damaged the cable from the touchscreen or the tiny wires that feed into the cable without damaging the screen. I came across a brand new screen I was replacing once for someone that had a similar problem where the bottom left hand corner wouldn't respond to touch unless there was firm pressure on the screen to create contact, and this was a brand new screen. It could also be that the touchscreen connector needs to be pushed back onto the board if it's come a bit loose.
If this is the problem, you can fix it by yourself although I'd have a good look around youtube, there are heaps of DIY videos of how to replace screens. If you do go down this path I recommend you replace the touchscreen/LCD/LCD frame in one go, as it's generally already pre- assembled the only thing here is that there are 3 brands of LCD's HTC used with the phone and they aren't all compatible, and you can only tell by pulling down your phone and looking at the LCD flex cable colours, and the other thing is that the screens that are available aren't always the same quality as the original. If this sounds to hard your best bet is to take it somewhere and diagnose the problem just in case it's something else
HI guys
My Nexus 7 2013 will not show any display on the LCD. It is almost as if the device is switched off (but it isn't as i can still hear notifications etc).
I've tried restarting a thousand times but the display is just completely black. Do you guys have any ideas?
I took the back off and checked all connections. I'm not entirely sure which connection relates to the LCD display?
Many thanks
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HI guys
My Nexus 7 2013 will not show any display on the LCD. It is almost as if the device is switched off (but it isn't as i can still hear notifications etc).
I've tried restarting a thousand times but the display is just completely black. Do you guys have any ideas?
I took the back off and checked all connections. I'm not entirely sure which connection relates to the LCD display?
Many thanks
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The enclosed thumb shows that amber lcd cable. DISCONNECT the battery before doing anything! If you want to reseat it, at the top (in the picture), peel the silver tape covering the connector upwards (be careful to peel it just past the connector and stop where it meets the copper shield), then pry the connector up and reseat. Be careful to match the slot as the pins may get bent. If you do it right, you should hear or feel a click.
The bottom connector is hidden under the bottom pc board, and you have to remove it for access (blue arrow). Follow the instructions from the thread "take apart guide" in the General section. Good luck.
Yes, like it turned itself off but it did not go off as I was still getting audible email notifications. Tried everything speaking with Google support and then even Asus support who told me to go to their website and fill in an RMA form. This unit is 13 months old-out of warranty. There is nothing on the form relevant to the nexus to fill in so you cannot continue with it. So I am stuck right now and do not know what to do if anything. Any help would be appreciated.
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Yes, like it turned itself off but it did not go off as I was still getting audible email notifications. Tried everything speaking with Google support and then even Asus support who told me to go to their website and fill in an RMA form. This unit is 13 months old-out of warranty. There is nothing on the form relevant to the nexus to fill in so you cannot continue with it. So I am stuck right now and do not know what to do if anything. Any help would be appreciated.
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Normally, 3 things can go wrong:
1. The cable is not connected properly. This could be caused by any impact. You take off the back cover and reseat it. It's the amber cable that runs the length of the battery. Be sure to check both ends. The one on the motherboard's end is in plain sight. The other end is hidden beneath the daughter board at the bottom of the tab, so you need to remove it to inspect the connection.
2. The backlight which illuminates the display went out. You can check this by turning the tab on and taking the tab to a dark room and shine a flashlight on the screen. If you can see the icons or the boot page, the back light is bad. The bad news is that you'd have to remove the lcd/touchscreen unit to replace the backlight. 10 times out of 10, when you do this on an original tab, you will break the touchscreen. Since it's glued to the lcd with LOCA (liquid optically clear adhesive), you will have to separate them, fix the backlight, buy a new touchscreen, then reassemble the whole thing. Most people would find it simpler to just buy a new lcd/touchscreen combo. If you're game though, I can give you an lcd back with a working backlight strip.
3. The video circuit on the motherboard went belly up. To test this, you need a micro usb to HDMI adapter like the one here , and a newer lcd TV. If nothing shows on your TV, the GPU is probably dead, in which case the only practical solution is to replace the motherboard since it's impossible to replace the GPU at home.
Good luck.
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Normally, 3 things can go wrong:
1. The cable is not connected properly. This could be caused by any impact. You take off the back cover and reseat it. It's the amber cable that runs the length of the battery. Be sure to check both ends. The one on the motherboard's end is in plain sight. The other end is hidden beneath the daughter board at the bottom of the tab, so you need to remove it to inspect the connection.
2. The backlight which illuminates the display went out. You can check this by turning the tab on and taking the tab to a dark room and shine a flashlight on the screen. If you can see the icons or the boot page, the back light is bad. The bad news is that you'd have to remove the lcd/touchscreen unit to replace the backlight. 10 times out of 10, when you do this on an original tab, you will break the touchscreen. Since it's glued to the lcd with LOCA (liquid optically clear adhesive), you will have to separate them, fix the backlight, buy a new touchscreen, then reassemble the whole thing. Most people would find it simpler to just buy a new lcd/touchscreen combo. If you're game though, I can give you an lcd back with a working backlight strip.
3. The video circuit on the motherboard went belly up. To test this, you need a micro usb to HDMI adapter like the one here , and a newer lcd TV. If nothing shows on your TV, the GPU is probably dead, in which case the only practical solution is to replace the motherboard since it's impossible to replace the GPU at home.
Good luck.
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Did anyone else read this response and want to hit the edit button, and then type in huge letters "Time to buy a new Nexus!"
Thank you for your detailed reply. I checked the cable from the MB at both ends. Seems OK on the connections. I am unable to turn on the tab to check the backlight. That's about as far as I can go with it at this point. I am thinking that this tab is toast and to make matters worse, the abominably bad Asus customer service. I am considering replacing this with a Samsung and be done with it.
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Thank you for your detailed reply. I checked the cable from the MB at both ends. Seems OK on the connections. I am unable to turn on the tab to check the backlight. That's about as far as I can go with it at this point. I am thinking that this tab is toast and to make matters worse, the abominably bad Asus customer service. I am considering replacing this with a Samsung and be done with it.
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Hey, don't lose hope! Samsung is not any better specs or quality-wise (especially the display). If you're gonna butcher the thing anyway, might as well find out. I was gonna suggest to lend you a used lcd for you to test, but I realize people for some reason are extremely wary of gratuitous offers so I won't. But if you value it, try to get a screen with a good lcd but broken digitizer on Ebay. They wouldn't cost more than 15 bucks. Once you can determine it's not the motherboard, we can go from there. I can guide you on the replacement part if you want. I'm just a hobbyist, but I have messed around with this thing enough to tell.
Graph, you are kind to offer. I also have noticed that the glass has a few cracks in it as well. At this point, I can't turn it on. It seems like when I punch the on button in there is extremely little movement if at all. So I don't know if it is still on which I don't this it is or it shut itself off. When it was black screen and on, I was getting my email notifications audibly but since yesterday-none. I am not looking to spend big bucks on these things as essentially all I do mostly is use for reading. I do want to stick with android if I replace this. I know samsung does not have as good resolution but seems to get good reviews from users.