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Unreliable GPRS/UMTS: AKU3.x or Radio 1.13?

As the title asks really.
Since moving onto AKU3.x ROM images, I have also moved to radio 1.13, and I am forever getting connection problems with push mail, and WL Messenger.
It says it is connected with the little G, but no data seems to go through. If I soft reset, it works again for a while.
I have used in the last few weeks ROMs from everyone that's posted here, and today Indra's 3.3, but I seem to get similar problems on them all.
Any idea what's going on?

AlanJC said:
As the title asks really.
Since moving onto AKU3.x ROM images, I have also moved to radio 1.13, and I am forever getting connection problems with push mail, and WL Messenger.
It says it is connected with the little G, but no data seems to go through. If I soft reset, it works again for a while.
I have used in the last few weeks ROMs from everyone that's posted here, and today Indra's 3.3, but I seem to get similar problems on them all.
Any idea what's going on?
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Question: do you also lose phone connectivity?

This is a problem in AKU. In AKU 2 MS have changed the RILGSM interfaces, while HTC have not fixed that in their code. So you'll get problems connecting to APNs that require passwords and your device cannot connect to them from the first attempt.
I have the same problem. There are solutions -
1. Flash AKU1 ROM (no push email support, only OUTD)
2. Use APN that does not require login/password
3. Wait when Crossbow ROM would become public. I think that that bug would be fixed there.
4. Just live with that bug.

I think option 4, then 3 will do for me thanks hehe.

BlackBerry
mamaich said:
This is a problem in AKU. In AKU 2 MS have changed the RILGSM interfaces, while HTC have not fixed that in their code. So you'll get problems connecting to APNs that require passwords and your device cannot connect to them from the first attempt.
I have the same problem. There are solutions -
1. Flash AKU1 ROM (no push email support, only OUTD)
2. Use APN that does not require login/password
3. Wait when Crossbow ROM would become public. I think that that bug would be fixed there.
4. Just live with that bug.
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I think is the some problem happening with BBconnect, that produce times works the pushmail and times not. I was thinking could be related to the new "Internet Sharing" program.

Strange, my AKU2 works fine with Radio 1.13.00 (Jwritesmcps's version extracted from his AKU3.2).
My AKU2 with Radio 1.11.00 was also ok and least memory leak, except of some missed calls & clarity which prompts me to change to Radio 1.13.00.
Helmi_c AKU3.3 works fine with Radio 1.14.10.
Password or no password, pushmail, pop3, internet, etc.
But in AKU3.3, I do have a problem with additional apps (vcard) that jams up my sms/mms. uninstall it and it is ok.

WM6 Black 3.0.1 advice please

Hi All,
Wow, Been a while since i had to post on here for help.
OK, before you all start flaming, Yes i have searched for a few days, inc. google and the WM6 Black forum 4winblack to no avail,
Everyone asking but no one answering and just flaming (hence no one can find the answer when searching and leaving them no choice but having to ask)
ME.
Member on here since 2005 ( so no noob, I always search and find )
have a MDA vario II HERM 300
Running Windows Mobile VI - Black Edition 3.0.1
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.10.OLipro
Radio ver. 1.41.00.10
T-mobile UK W+W
OK the burning question that has me stumped.
and i am cringing cause i dont want you to flame throw me.
Windows Live issue
Unable to establish an internet connection. Can this be fixed and How?
I have re installed WM VI black Live & messenger cab but still same issue.
Messenger Sign in as issue
How do i get to sign in there is no where to sign in
just a blank pick and the option to go online.
Are these issues fixed and are they just relevent to WM6 Black or all packages, am tempted to downgrade or switch roms in hope.
Finally as last resort will posket msn work on WM6
Again sorry for asking but i do truly search, it a shame when you do get new users using such a great forum and they get flamed, Remember if everyone is treated in this way, how can anyone search and find the answer.
I have opened countless posts on the subject only to find the person asking flamed and no answer given. This makes it near inpossible to find the correct answer.
Didn't come on to moan LOL. Have a good un all,

Can't help on your other issues as I don't use Messenger or MSN, but I have no trouble with Windows Live with this rom. Connects with no problems.

You need to reenter your 3G modem settings in your connections so that it knows how to connect to the network. wap.cingular and then your 7 digit phone number is hte password.

Am able to browse web fine and hitting speed of 1200KB sec
used the TMobile UKFixed cab which auto does it all for you, but just keep getting this damn message.
Or am i missing something here...

ukmdb said:
Am able to browse web fine and hitting speed of 1200KB sec
used the TMobile UKFixed cab which auto does it all for you, but just keep getting this damn message.
Or am i missing something here...
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hmm.. I have seen these issues before in other posts and enouctered some myself. Pimpmyblack has a tab which will allow you to have your gprs/media net on all the time (assuming you have unlimited plan). From my experience there is a bug with live, it doesnt like to establish gprs conn if it is not alread on. I have noticed this with piscel browser too. As much as I hate doing it, my non-hack work around is to open pie and connect to google. this establishes connection w/ gprs. its not ideal, but I have exhaustedly serached for a fix to this too with no avail. hopefully that can hold u over until the geniuses figure somethin out.

Yeah it maybe something with WM6 i think and the way it allows programs to hook up to the internet. For example everytime i use my opera mini i have to first open up explorer to establish an internet connection and then i can start using opera mini. So that maybe what is required for you to do. But i would highly recommend you to just switch over to one of the newer roms that have been cooked. I was on black 3.0.1 and just had to many problems with bluetooth and connections to the internet. So i strongly recommend that buddy.

thanks for the suggestions, glad others have herd of the problem but unable to find fix.
yes. I have tried pimp my black and changed settings to internet always on.
also tried with internet connection open and then trying windows live and messenger but both problems still exist.
shame as accessing my hotmail accounts instantly is a must.
looks like will have to try your suggestion of another ron.
recommendations ?
thanks

Well it looks like This was one good thread. started good and ended good. So lets lock it up if its cool with you guys.

agree, thanks to everyone.
to sum up.
I could not find a fix to the issues I had :-{
I eventually took the advice and changed roms.
now running Custels 2.5 and everything. I mean everything is working fantastic. plus the bonus of office 2007 and live is running great.
I can only suggest black is a little buggy for myself but hey im happy with Custels 2.5
thanks to all again.
try not and leave it another 2 years before I post again lol.

wmIRC

I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim

tmcdoniel said:
I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim
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make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...

gixxum said:
make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...
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I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim

tmcdoniel said:
I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim
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I wasnt so much talking about enabling indent..i was just talking about when you connect to the server and i queries the client..
what version of wmirc is it?

This probably doesn't help much but I have it working fine on another device over CDMA.
Honestly, prepare to be disappointed though. Its a very buggy program. The user lists tend to disappear, sometimes a new pm opens and switching from one to the next shows the same messages, and it randomly completely crashes.
There's also zsIRC at zsirc.com. However, this is many written for WM Pro, so there's a lot of things that you can't do if you don't have a touchscreen (also, you can't install the .cab on WM Standard and need to use the .exe installer.)

i agree. but for smartphone its really the only one that works. ive tried 3. wmirc, jirc and some other one that i cant remember.
as far as just chattin in a channel, its fine. ive had it up with no disconnects on the edge network for 8 hours. with wifi i have left on for days and it never crashed or disconnected. yea the user list is a little retarded, but thats a non issue for me. you can still use basic commands like /whois . i dont think its ever going to get better than this though. as far as i know, no one else is developing a new client.
so i guess just pick the lesser poison..if you want to run it through java (which i couldnt stand) try out jirc.
shoot me a pm and let me know what version you have. i will probably just give you a link to my site and you can try the one i have because i know it works. im running 6.1 rickys v. 24

I'm just using the standard 2.2 from the wmirc.com site.

'Push' Internet

I got the Touch Pro 2 via Orange, however have it unlocked to O2.
The push internet feature however doesnt seem to exist on this rom!! I dont mean even disabled because ive moved to O2, just isnt there!!!
No icons beside the pages, no option to 'add new push page', and no options in menu for schedule settings or data settings!
Has anyone else experience the Touch Pro via Orange UK? Am i missing something very simple, or is there a way to enable thsi feature??
Help appreciated

I've got an Orange UK TP2 too and its not there either. i havent tried adding though, sorry!
'tunes

Thats a useful reference point anyway so thanks. At least i know its not something i have done. Orange must have been trying to cut down on bandwidth usage or something!!
With this in mind- any easy way i can restore the push functionality without flashing and putting a different rom on board??

Ok im on the verge of reflashing to an htc Rom. Really dont want to because push internet is all im after, but dont see any options.
one last appeal- is there anyway i can 'restore' push internet to my Orange branded Touch Pro 2?? Any ideas??
Q

Why so desperate for push internet?
It's just a scam by the carriers to make you use more data... just add your favourites to your favourites and check them whenever you want/need.
IMO anyway.

The TmobileUS TP2 doesn't have Push Internet either & I don't care. I doubt it would be something i'd use even if it was in the ROM

I was reading in a thread where people wanted to disable push internet that the way it worked was to load Opera at start-up and use the browser to download the webpages at specified intervals.
It means that Opera will be in memory all the time and running in the background.
Having tried Push Internet for a few weeks, I can say I liked it but I haven't found it essential. I found myself refreshing the "pushed" page just to see what the most up-to-date information was anyway. For my internet usage, I agree with the previous poster who suggested loading the page from a bookmark (or use an RSS feed reader).
Unless there's a specific need for Push Internet that you have in mind, I don't think it's worth the hassle.

Quincey113 said:
I got the Touch Pro 2 via Orange, however have it unlocked to O2.
The push internet feature however doesnt seem to exist on this rom!! I dont mean even disabled because ive moved to O2, just isnt there!!!
No icons beside the pages, no option to 'add new push page', and no options in menu for schedule settings or data settings!
Has anyone else experience the Touch Pro via Orange UK? Am i missing something very simple, or is there a way to enable thsi feature??
Help appreciated
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If I were you, I would not be too disappointed to have no push internet. It drains your RAM and your battery.
have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948

[Android] Disabling 3G For Kaiser for NAND rom -- please help!

As some devs are aware there are those of us who need 3G disabled on Android for our devices. Using the option to "Only Use 2G Networks" does not resolve this. (edit: also, neither does the *#*#INFO#*#*)
I thought it might be helpful to create a thread about it so that if anyone comes up with a solution or if a particular rom build can address this issue (I'm not an expert but it seems like it will have to be a rom based fix? which is why this isn't in software development) there's a place for it.
I use AT&T and have validated my APN settings and tried all manner of selecting the "use only 2g" option (restarting, manually selecting networks, automatically selecting networks, etc.) but it always goes back to 3G.
This can be disabled as if I disable 3G through WinMO it works and HaRET seems to behave when I use it that way (I still select 2g only though).
Personally I use HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.71.09.01.
Please help us out Perhaps we could start a bounty -- I'd like to start with $10 for a validated fix.
If someone would be willing to walk me through a build process for their rom perhaps I can test/fumble through C myself and create a "patch" or something that can be applied to other builds. Please feel free to PM me if you can do that and I'll keep any information on this thread.
Thanks for reading this and any help you can provide or direction you can point me in! This is a great community!

---------------- UPDATES -----------------
As reported by Softec 2G/3G switching is working for Polaris (Pola100) using KaiserDroid 2.0
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
Thank you slm4996!
I am trying to use KaiserDroid 2.0 on my Kaiser (Kais160) but thus far haven't gotten data to work. Stay tuned.

Hi
Thanks for starting this thread I am using the same phone (kaiser 130) same hard spl 3.34 and same radio.
I too live in an area where I need to disable 3g to have a usable phone, and have found the same - disable in Windows Mobile and load via haret and then android never tries 3g.
I like the idea of the reward, I'll match your $10 so that makes a $20 bounty on this one, I can test for anyone if they're trying to fix it.

There's a few different ways to accomplish this. All do the same thing but some may be easier for you to do based on your experience. I don't know if the ROMs need to be rooted but given that these are ports you should have no issues with that. You can search through my posts, the various threads or PM me if you need help with that.
Basically you are going to corrupt the (going off of memory here) /etc/apn-config.xml file to point to nonexistent APNs. You don't need to do both of these, these are just different ways to do this:
1.) Download Droidsans Tweaks Lite from Market (free) and you can use it to disable the APN, or you can just to to the APN settings and change the APN name
2.) Download APNdroid (free) and toggle connectivity
There's other ways, but giving you two options should be enough. If you are good enough at messing with ROMs, you can always just delete the apn-config.xml (or whatever it's called) in /etc (which is in the rootfs.img) and it will never connect.

I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn

then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?

Currently only via Haret
damianiw said:
I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn
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Well the only thing I can suggest is via haret.
1. Via windows goto com manager and disable 3g, and confirm that you have edge showing and connected.
2. Boot haret and you will be limited to edge.
short and sweet.....
the speed is decent enough for me to consider a nexus or desire on ATT's 850 mhz HSDPA/4g
Mo
ps. I hope your thread pushes for a solution via nand b/c its important.

disable 3g not workkint in android
enatefox said:
then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?
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Sorry n the dsiabling 3g when runing android does not work on the kaiser from our experience, the widget is just a shortcut to the menu.
As noted in post 7 and I tught above the only soluton is to run via haret and. Disable it in windows mobile to re-enable reboot the phone and enable in windows then run haret again.
Can we change the thread to - Android via Nand on Kaiser Disable 3g solution required or something clearer
I would love to be able to run via nand

I have this problem too, i can't disable the 3G signal, i think this problem is only in Kaiser.
i like if someone can "fix" this for us.

Thank you guys for the suggestions. HaRET does work if the WinMO ROM hosting can disable 3G (which most have a switch or something).
I have googled for some time searching for a toggle/switch that disables 3G but as mentioned have only found ones that point to the menu rather than actually disable 3G.
As mentioned the menu does not work.
There's a $20 combined bounty on this already! Please help us out!!

Newest KaiserDroid
I am using a new RIL in KaiserDroid 2.0, have you tried it yet?
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
If it works I can backport it to older roms till this one is more complete. Thank you for all you feedback on the KaiserDroid thread.

I'll give it a try and let you know...

2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!

Softec said:
2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!
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You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?

Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.

aikeru said:
Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.
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Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)

slm4996 said:
Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)
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Doesn't seem to work, my results/attempt procedure posted here (in KaiserDroid thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5780033#post5780033

slm4996 said:
You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?
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Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.

Softec said:
Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.
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Please read the thread for the rom you use!! These are all known issues with all ROMs flashed to NAND and to some extent under HaRET. the appropriate fixes and/or workaround have been posted in the thread. I am working a howto to back port the RIL but if you start poking around in the sysinit.rc it should be fairly obvious what files you need.
keep in mind that KaiserDroid 2.0/2.1 are ALPHA release and as such contain bugs.

Hello slm4996, it was not my intension held high controversy, I just wanted to clear up why do not I was using your rom and use the 3G off on another rom.
I looked at the file sysinit.rc as you recommended and I changed the line:
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild -l /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so -- -d /dev/smd0
with
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild
Then I replaced the file /system/bin/Rild from your new rom and it worked perfectly.
I can make and receive calls on 2G without problem. I have not tried the APN but I'll try to short
thank you very much.