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Contacts - option to send SMS to landlines

In older versions of Android when a contact had multiple telephone numbers you could only send an SMS to their mobile number.
In 2.1 ALL numbers (including landlines) have the option to be used for sending an SMS. This makes the list really long if you have several numbers (home, work, mobile etc) because you can call or SMS each of them.
Also, when you compose an SMS and type in the "To" box, all the numbers show up there as well.
Both of these make it more difficult to pick the right number, as I found out earlier when I accidentally sent an SMS to a landline.
Are others seeing this, and if so, has anyone got a way to stop it abd revert to only show "Send message" to the mobile number?
zippyioa

Use Handcent SMS. There you can toggle the "Show mobile numbers only".

Already for several years sending and receiving SMS on a landline can be done. This may depend on your provider, the country you are in, and of course the phone itself. Some providers even offer an automatic text-to-voice service for this. All this may help explain why the distinction is fading, or even absent in this case.
If anything it should be an option to configure 'SMS allowed' for each number, and perhaps not for all landlines together. Google Android team, are you reading this?

Zappza said:
Use Handcent SMS. There you can toggle the "Show mobile numbers only".
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Thanks, I will take a look at it. That would solve the issue when composing an SMS. The long list of options in People will still be there though, which makes it harder to find the right number when calling.
It's not a huge issue, it's just different to what I was used to. I am sure I'll get used to it!

doggie123 said:
Already for several years sending and receiving SMS on a landline can be done. This may depend on your provider, the country you are in, and of course the phone itself. Some providers even offer an automatic text-to-voice service for this. All this may help explain why the distinction is fading, or even absent in this case.
If anything it should be an option to configure 'SMS allowed' for each number, and perhaps not for all landlines together. Google Android team, are you reading this?
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I know you can send an SMS to landlines, we used to have the voice of Tom Baker (Little Britain narrator) for a while which was really funny, especially the words "balls". It's not something I ever use now though.
I agree, its something the Google team should look at!
How do others feel about it.... would you hide the option to SMS to landlines if you could?

[REQ] [BOUNTY] App for saving Caller ID non contacts name display

Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a fix for SGS i9000 for Rogers/Fido name display. I get the name correctly on my phone while the number is ringing, however, when I answer or don't pickup the call, I just get the number.
Thank you

i don't follow...
when i miss i call i get the normal SMS from 8888 telling me that i missed a call from such and such from the phone number that phoned me
and in the phone call log, i see the little red arrow that i missed a call with the name and phone number of the contact
if it was not a contact then it just shows the phone number (which is normal of all previous cell phones i've used)
so... what exactly is not working for you?

I don't have that feature that would send me an SMS with the name and number. I just have a "Name Display and Caller number" feature. On FIDO supported phones any person that calls, even if that person is not in the contact list, his/her name would display. On my phone, SGS i9000M, Name Display works only while the phone is ringing....

iamcanadian said:
even if that person is not in the contact list, his/her name would display. On my phone, SGS i9000M, Name Display works only while the phone is ringing....
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that is correct
this is how it works normally on any cell phone that i've had with Fido
only displays the name when it's ringing
it doesn't save the name, it never did for any of my previous cell phones
that's only for people that are not on your contact list

And I guess the question was if there is a way to have the name not only the number in the call log after the call is completed. Is there a fix for this? Thx
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

well there is nothing to FIX because it's not broken
the "Advanced Caller ID" the one that shows you the callers name even though it is not in your contact list, is a network feature
not a phone feature
the build in phone feature will match the caller ID from the network provided number to your contact list then show you the caller name, if it's not in your contact list you will just get the number
that is standard on all phones with caller ID
the trick that the network uses, is that they tag the name of the person calling you along the caller ID number
older phones wouldn't even display the name
newer phones will show the name, but not be able to do anything with it, it just displays it that's all
the build in software on most phones are only designed to save the caller ID number, no extra stuff tagging along.
translation you will need a Developer to come up with a new software to be able to save both the caller ID + the extra strings attached

Just to confirm my old nokia n97 did save the name in missed calls.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

I see what you mean, on some phones when someone calls you and you do not have the persons contact saved the following happens:
1. Name is displayed along with the number while ringing.
2. When you look up the phone log the name is in there and when you save the contact it already has the name typed in for you.
On the Galaxy S number 2 does not happen. I dont know how to change it to make it work however, I am interested.

A new software will be required to do that, none of my previous phone had that feature
time to hire an android developer to make and app to do that
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

I have the same features with Fido and i found it to be annoying that it wouldnt show the callers name(not on my contacts) in missed calls. If its important they can call again lol.
Off-Topic:
I am about to purchase the Captivate from Rogers(finally its out...) but im with Fido, what im wondering is it possible to unlock the phone with the unlock/unfreeze guide located in the dev section. I just dont want to create a new thread for one question
PS. It didnt allow me to post the link to the guide because i just joined, sorry for the trouble lol.

I would appreciate if someone can post a fix for this issue. I'll throw in some money for a fix

Me too!
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

if you guys really want this feature implemented you'll have to put up a bounty to hire a developer to make an app for that

AllGamer said:
if you guys really want this feature implemented you'll have to put up a bounty to hire a developer to make an app for that
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I'm not sure how bounties are done here, however, 20 US dollars from me send via paypal!

Did you ever tried super caller ID?
Greez

Auratumus said:
Did you ever tried super caller ID?
Greez
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super caller ID is only good if you have an active data or WIFI connection

My bro has a Acer Liquid from Fido and caller id from non-contact sticks in log.
Come on Samsung or XDA!!!

Any update...any luck on this?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Answering Machine

Do someboby have an Answering Machine for android???

your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??

LumeriA said:
your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??
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Providers charge for that service and many people want it done on their phone. I am looking for that kind of app too.

Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.

Reuvenm said:
Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.
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Good to know that tasker can do this but it will only play a media file of my voice record I am looking for a dedicated app which works as answering machine & then let the "unknown" caller record a message which is stored on my phone.
Basically I get to many spam calls which if I block using the white list, it also blocks genuine calls from those who may want to contact me but are not in my contact list, answering machine will allow to leave them a 1 min message so I can get back to those people.
Anybody knows if such apps exist?

Have you tried Google voice? It has a voicemail service and I think you can apply it to any number
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Receiving sms after a missed call

so on my previous phones, when i was out of area service(no signal) and someone called during that, i received(after gain signal) a message with lost call and their phone number.
it is possible on wildfire?
thanks in advance

I dunno about doing that phone-wise, but my carrier has the option for me to receive those

gogusteliade said:
so on my previous phones, when i was out of area service(no signal) and someone called during that, i received(after gain signal) a message with lost call and their phone number.
it is possible on wildfire?
thanks in advance
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I'm pretty sure that this is a service of your carrier, so you should be able to use it on any phone.

i had the same carrier on my previous phones, so i think it's wildfire here
if i remember correctly, on nokia 5800 was a setting in sms menu, but on wildfire i can't find it.

Check whether you are still subscribed to it. They send it as a normal SMS, so I am sure it should work on any phone. It's a paid service here (Obviously, it was free before) and you have to separately subscribe to it.

thanks, but I'm very sure that i haven't unsubscribed to this or any service since i got my wildfire or before that.

Call your service provider and badger them. (lol) Alternatively, if you are sure this is a Wildfire thing, use your own SIM card on another phone and check there whether it works.

That feature is called "MISSED CALL ALERTS" and in no way it is related to wildfire. And i don't see a point which says that it won't work on wildfire. It is just like receiving text message (lol).
It is entirely a service provider thing. Ask your service provider for MISSED CALL ALERTS (MCA).
And sometimes there will be network related issues so that MCA will be activated automatically without charging (happened to me once). And sometimes they will be automatically activated by deducting balance from our mobile and we being unaware of that. This was the worst thing i face with service providers, they activate the things automatically deducting balance (like caller tunes).
And can u tell the option present in nokia 5800 setting. IM ALMOST SURE THAT THIS OPTION IS NOT PRESENT IN MESSAGING APP. BUT, IF IM CORRECT U MUST HAVE SEEN IT IN "SIM TOOLKIT" APP WHICH IS A NETWORK RELATED THING AGAIN.
Check the "Sim Toolkit" (or some other name i don't know what ur carrier names it) app on wildfire and verify whether u see it there.

[Q] Sending "Private number" to voicemail

I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS

You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.

Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Liskrig said:
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"

hillrider said:
Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

theking_13 said:
Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.

theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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+1

If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.

copkay said:
If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
copkay said:
and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.

player911 said:
Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.

Root call blocker does this.