Artemis Touch 4.02 Vanilla / Full / Lite / With Without Cube - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

Has any one got a list of features of the above ROMs ? I can only find the Full version and I am curious ( especially the Vanilla version ) as to whats in it / setup.
I Vanilla should be exactly that but been cooked I wanted to make sure.
Terran
PS I cant find the original threads just the newer ones....

My friend, it´s incredible what 5 sec using search button can do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400452
Cheers

ark666 said:
My friend, it´s incredible what 5 sec using search button can do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400452
Cheers
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Thanks - I did say I had already found that and it refers to LITE not the VANILLA version - or may be some one can confirm this is the same thing ?
I was unable to find Mechelle original thread to check.....
Terran

The one i have is 4.01 vanilla
http://www.4shared.com/file/36916107/1c07689c/Artemis_vanilla_401.html
you´ll have to use a bit more the search button, in order to find 4.02 vanilla.
Cheers.

Just a quick update.... I ended up using 4.02 with out cube and its just spot on.... I can not see any way to fault it.
I hope that helps any one else who searched and found this thread.
Terran

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Questions after upgrading to WM6 - Help...

Ok, I have upgraded my Hermes to WM6 using the ROM on the wiki site.
I have installed all my apps and everything was looking great. I then noticed the Extended ROM and half a dozen cab files. So I have installed all of these as assumed they were some sort of patches.
I carried on installing my apps but now after a reboot the SIM PIN Lock entry screen looks a really basic (non 3d) button version and the keypad that should be shown when pressing the green call button isn't displayed I just get a white screen.
I have installed the following apps:-
eWallet 5
Tomtom 6
PocketBreeze 5.2
Phone Alarm + VistaMedia skin
Any ideas on what has happened?
Do I need to re-flash my phone?
Help..
Thanks
Mark
mdavenport said:
Ok, I have upgraded my Hermes to WM6 using the ROM on the wiki site.
I have installed all my apps and everything was looking great. I then noticed the Extended ROM and half a dozen cab files. So I have installed all of these as assumed they were some sort of patches.
I carried on installing my apps but now after a reboot the SIM PIN Lock entry screen looks a really basic (non 3d) button version and the keypad that should be shown when pressing the green call button isn't displayed I just get a white screen.
I have installed the following apps:-
eWallet 5
Tomtom 6
PocketBreeze 5.2
Phone Alarm + VistaMedia skin
Any ideas on what has happened?
Do I need to re-flash my phone?
Help..
Thanks
Mark
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Which version have you upgraded to?? If it is v0.20.x (thats 0.20.0 or 0.20.1) this is a known issue, seriously recommend reading the thread concerned with the ROM you are flashing before going ahead (the link for the thread is in the table aswell).
mrvanx said:
Which version have you upgraded to?? If it is v0.20.x (thats 0.20.0 or 0.20.1) this is a known issue, seriously recommend reading the thread concerned with the ROM you are flashing before going ahead (the link for the thread is in the table aswell).
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Hi,
My ROM Version is 3.22.110.1
I installed it from the 1st option in this list:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
I installed from Mirror 5
I am little confused, is there a way to overcome this issue. Im bit of a newbie so do appreciate your help..
Mark
mdavenport said:
Hi,
My ROM Version is 3.22.110.1
I installed it from the 1st option in this list:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
I installed from Mirror 5
I am little confused, is there a way to overcome this issue. Im bit of a newbie so do appreciate your help..
Mark
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So you installed the 'Vanilla' version?? (look at the names on the left side)
mrvanx said:
So you installed the 'Vanilla' version?? (look at the names on the left side)
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Yes it was the Vanilla version. I have done the wrong one?
Can you point me in the direction of the fix if there is one?
Thanks again
Mark
mdavenport said:
Yes it was the Vanilla version. I have done the wrong one?
Can you point me in the direction of the fix if there is one?
Thanks again
Mark
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The best thing to do is to is to perform a 'Hard Reset' which will reset your device back to the same point as when the rom was flashed, so you will need to reinstall everything. Suggest you install the same things again but dont install the skin....this might be incompatible with WM6 (since nearly all skins are designed for use in WM5).
BTW, i would take some time to read through the wiki and familiarise yourself with the various reset types and other literature on ROM upgrades, the knowledge in these pages will hold you in good stead for the future sir
mrvanx said:
The best thing to do is to is to perform a 'Hard Reset' which will reset your device back to the same point as when the rom was flashed, so you will need to reinstall everything. Suggest you install the same things again but dont install the skin....this might be incompatible with WM6 (since nearly all skins are designed for use in WM5).
BTW, i would take some time to read through the wiki and familiarise yourself with the various reset types and other literature on ROM upgrades, the knowledge in these pages will hold you in good stead for the future sir
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Ok, thanks for your help.
Just one other question. Should I have ran all the CAB's from the Extended ROM?
mdavenport said:
Ok, thanks for your help.
Just one other question. Should I have ran all the CAB's from the Extended ROM?
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Not really....the best thing you can do is to leave the ext_rom alone and just manually configure your MMS and WAP settings by hand. The ext_rom (again) contains cab installers that are designed for WM5.....while most should work in WM6 there are some that dont. ext_rom is something i havent used for ages in XDA-Live (v0.1 and now 0.2) and I dont miss it.
Just install the apps you were running (phonealarm and others). The ext_rom doesnt do much except run carrier based stuff (like themes and automatic settings).

Ask Artemis Touch 4.02 WM6.1 WWE ROM, 5.2.19199 !!!

Hi,
I saw it three days ago, but it disappeared. I cannot find it anymore.
Does someone have it to support me? Please... Thanks a lot.
Hi,
Unfortunately it seems that Meschle the guy who made the rom has retiered from the forum without letting his work...
Good bye and farewell for him who did a great job
Put this in google:
artemis touch 4.02
and then 3rd Link!
Is it late?
I counldn't reach it.
Please~~
Check here
WTF, if retired, why did he remove all his posts for ROMs !!!!
Totally Unethical.
Because he made them and if that it his decision than so will it be.
EazyVG said:
WTF, if retired, why did he remove all his posts for ROMs !!!!
Totally Unethical.
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i support you......he could have deleted the links to the rom removed all the uploaded files but deleting all the threads is not ethical.....i had a bug which was listed in the page..and when i tried to search it...it was all gone...thanks to google caching i was able to get the old page...but i am not in favor in deleting the entire thread.....if this can be taken care of.....please do so.....mods if possible please put a notice of somekind so people can see the problems earlier instead of having a conscious attack later and others people stands helpless......
some Meschle Rom's (Touch 1 - Touch 4.02)
You can also find some of Mark's ROMs here on my mediafire share.
petervbeck said:
You can also find some of Mark's ROMs here on my mediafire share.
Just uploading some of the older versions (1.0 etc)
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Thanks Peter,
Those rapidshare links are PIA especially with Rapidshare new annoying security check ( can never pass it, i wish RS rots in hell). Mediafire is decent.
And i agree with gandotratushar!
petervbeck said:
You can also find some of Mark's ROMs here on my mediafire share.
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What about vanilla 4.02? I dont see that on there, or did i miss it?
Also how dose he feel about people putting his ROMS up for download? Is he cool with that?
Thanks, lee.
leethedon1 said:
Also how dose he feel about people putting his ROMS up for download? Is he cool with that?
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sorry, i don't have 4.02 vanilla....but here's a link. Will download and add to my roms also...
what Mark says about hosting somewhere else:
meschle said:
I have taken the roms with me but no doubt you will find them elsewhere.
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Vanilla 4.02
Vanilla 4.02 is up now...
now no have choice Artemis Touch 4.02 WM6.1 WWE ROM, 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0) (Full, Lite and Vanilla)
in Best ROM for Artemis
you're so great
freco said:
Check here
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i finally found what i needed...but now i have a question..
how can i open the cube. I got it once, but then it disappappeared. Is there a instruction for this rom?
Second question. The bottom and the top of the dispay are green, how can i change them? For example to black??
and last but not least...My Tomtom program has gone. I couldn't find it on the device. When i plug it to the pc an try to connect with the tomtom software, it shows me, that the maps etc are still on the storage card. But i cannot launch the navigation. Also when i use the gprs buton on the left side a strange page comes and somewhere stands, that there is no fix..or something? Whats a fix?
What should i do now, that i still can use this rom Artemis_Touch_4.02_Full_with_4_sided_cube but also my navigation??
thx a lot..
ahuysa said:
i finally found what i needed...but now i have a question..
how can i open the cube. I got it once, but then it disappappeared. Is there a instruction for this rom?
Second question. The bottom and the top of the dispay are green, how can i change them? For example to black??
and last but not least...My Tomtom program has gone. I couldn't find it on the device. When i plug it to the pc an try to connect with the tomtom software, it shows me, that the maps etc are still on the storage card. But i cannot launch the navigation. Also when i use the gprs buton on the left side a strange page comes and somewhere stands, that there is no fix..or something? Whats a fix?
What should i do now, that i still can use this rom Artemis_Touch_4.02_Full_with_4_sided_cube but also my navigation??
thx a lot..
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1. find it here,there is some text and a pic
2.settings>today>themes
3.you have to find tom tom installation (cab or exe)...i think there is a file in the wiki(slick my signature) because when you flashed the rom,all that was included in the original one was replaced or deleted
install it and it'll work
also,now that you have to download it anyway, i'd suggest you trying iGO6 iGO8,it's great and much smarter and less annoying than tomtom
petervbeck said:
You can also find some of Mark's ROMs here on my mediafire share.
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Thnx for sharing there m8, exidently deleted my my meschle rom folder on my pc.
Now have most of them back, gonna go back to a 3.x vanilla or test the others again to compare them to the wm6.1 roms
Missing important file..
There was a .cab file posted by meschel in his original post which enabled 'messege sent' notification when sending a txt.
The rom's have not got this feature as standard and need this .cab file to fix it.
Its looking really hard to find as people only have the roms and not the extra .cab file he posted too..
Anyone have it?
leethedon1 said:
There was a .cab file posted by meschel in his original post which enabled 'messege sent' notification when sending a txt.
The rom's have not got this feature as standard and need this .cab file to fix it.
Its looking really hard to find as people only have the roms and not the extra .cab file he posted too..
Anyone have it?
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2327258&postcount=19
Cheers
You can also disable that notification with Schaps Advanced Configuration (3.3 is the newest I guess)

Stock Vanilla WM6.1 ROM

Hi all,
It's been a while since I posted here but I'm starting to get bored with WM6 so fancy the shift to WM6.1
I read through the topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435480 as this pointed me in the direction of some vanilla esk builds, however these still have a lot of modification done.
I'm after a ROM which is exactly as it comes out of the WM6.1 box, so none of the HTC gadgetry installed, MS Calculator and Windows Update still available etc. The only thing it needs to have is Office - Doesn't even matter if it's out of date because I can install the update from MS.
Is there such a ROM that anyone knows of?
Thanks
Richard
Check link below
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Upgrades
@[email protected] said:
Check link below
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Upgrades
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Thanks for the relpy, however how do I know which ROM is WM6.1? Should I be looking at the build numbers?
I see some of the ROM's listed state WM6 but none mention WM6.1
Thanks
Try this one ,WWE-6.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/60087606/HTC_P3300_WWE_3.13.405.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship_R.exe
@[email protected] said:
Try this one ,WWE-6.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/60087606/HTC_P3300_WWE_3.13.405.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship_R.exe
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Judging by the filename, this is the base HTC ROM - Thanks
I've done USPL on my phone and installed the new ROM this morning which worked fine, however this ROM is only WM6 not WM6.1.
Does anyone have a Vanilla build of WM6.1 with no TouchFLO, any extra or anything removed?
richard_j_green said:
I've done USPL on my phone and installed the new ROM this morning which worked fine, however this ROM is only WM6 not WM6.1.
Does anyone have a Vanilla build of WM6.1 with no TouchFLO, any extra or anything removed?
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can u mention what all apps u want and what u want to remove???
ill try to make a ROM according to that
You want Greasy Weasel Evolution 2.1 my friend.
wheres the link to greasy weasel rom????

Help me Regarding themes -

Am the New User of Windows Mobile Phone, this was my First time when i have some Windiown Mobile Phone.
Previously am Using Nokia.
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
Help me Guys
Vatumb said:
Am the New User of Windows Mobile Phone, this was my First time when i have some Windiown Mobile Phone.
Previously am Using Nokia.
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
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The screen you see with the tabs etc is TF3D it depends on what ROM your on you can do search in XDA or Google to learn more then you can research Themes search search it is your friend
ozmoran said:
The screen you see with the tabs etc is TF3D it depends on what ROM your on you can do search in XDA or Google to learn more then you can research Themes search search it is your friend
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Thanks for the reply..
I searhed about the themes and try them on my phone, but none of them working.
Son,t know which manila version i have
HTC Touch HD
ROM Ver. : 1.18.707.3 (23358) WWE
ROM Date: 12/10/08
Radio Ver.: 1.09.25.14
Files inside TF3D is called or named, Manila, so you need to know what version of TF3D you are using. Go to your Settings Tab, then About and you can see what version of TF3D you are using.
knight900 said:
Files inside TF3D is called or named, Manila, so you need to know what version of TF3D you are using. Go to your Settings Tab, then About and you can see what version of TF3D you are using.
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It shows Touchflow version 3.0
so which themes are avalable for this phone
kindly provide some links
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum.
Digital Outcast said:
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum.
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Thanks For Moving the Thread
Vatumb said:
Thanks For Moving the Thread
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Help Me guys
Hey,
I definitely understand your confusion. I'm absolutely no newcomer to Windows Mobile, but I was pretty baffled when I arrived here after a few years gone.
Let's see if I help you somewhat...
Vatumb said:
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
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You're the right place now - this forum where your thread here has been moved to, is the place for HTC Touch HD.
Vatumb said:
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
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You propably use Manila v2.0, which means that themes for Manila v2.1 and v3, are not compatible with your device.
BUT!
First off, you should take a look at giving your phone a new ROM.
The kitchen cooks for TouchHD here on xda, are FABOLOUS! Right now, your Touch HD is slow as hell. Try and swipe the menus. Notice the lags. Enter the application pane. Swipe up and down. See?
The kitchen cooked ROMs in here, replaces the one you have - and gives you up to 20x faster performance (no kidding, and no exhaggeration).
I myself, use Laurentius26 v3.55 (www.laurentius26.net -- you have to become member of his website to download the rom, but it's all free, so don't worry).
Most people like Dutty's ROMs also - they're great too!
No matter what you choose, I promise you'll feel that your Touch HD has transformed into a speed monster. Especially in the menus!
Oh yeah - and as a side dish, you get the newest version of Manila and TouchFlo3D. Personally, I think that the version in the Laurantius26-ROM that I use, is so super-duper, that I don't want to spend time looking for other themes. I have thought of designing/programming a completely new GUI myself, but I gave up, as I don't have Microsoft Visual Studio.
But you have the oppertunity if you patch with a new ROM. I highly recommend you do that first thing.
jakobdam said:
Hey,
I definitely understand your confusion. I'm absolutely no newcomer to Windows Mobile, but I was pretty baffled when I arrived here after a few years gone.
Let's see if I help you somewhat...
You're the right place now - this forum where your thread here has been moved to, is the place for HTC Touch HD.
You propably use Manila v2.0, which means that themes for Manila v2.1 and v3, are not compatible with your device.
BUT!
First off, you should take a look at giving your phone a new ROM.
The kitchen cooks for TouchHD here on xda, are FABOLOUS! Right now, your Touch HD is slow as hell. Try and swipe the menus. Notice the lags. Enter the application pane. Swipe up and down. See?
The kitchen cooked ROMs in here, replaces the one you have - and gives you up to 20x faster performance (no kidding, and no exhaggeration).
I myself, use Laurentius26 v3.55 (www.laurentius26.net -- you have to become member of his website to download the rom, but it's all free, so don't worry).
Most people like Dutty's ROMs also - they're great too!
No matter what you choose, I promise you'll feel that your Touch HD has transformed into a speed monster. Especially in the menus!
Oh yeah - and as a side dish, you get the newest version of Manila and TouchFlo3D. Personally, I think that the version in the Laurantius26-ROM that I use, is so super-duper, that I don't want to spend time looking for other themes. I have thought of designing/programming a completely new GUI myself, but I gave up, as I don't have Microsoft Visual Studio.
But you have the oppertunity if you patch with a new ROM. I highly recommend you do that first thing.
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But how to kNow that Which Manila I have.
You said above that i Have Manila 2.0 How to check it
And How to Updated the ROM, but there is not update of ROM in india HTC http://www.htc.com/in/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
Vatumb said:
But how to kNow that Which Manila I have.
You said above that i Have Manila 2.0 How to check it
And How to Updated the ROM, but there is not update of ROM in india HTC http://www.htc.com/in/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
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Your manila can be found by going to settings tab in TF3D and then scrolling down to 'About'
It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38658.2. The first 2 numbers i.e. 2.1 in this case state which manila you have
There appears to be no official update from HTC for a Indian rom. You can however update to any coooked rom by using either USPL or HSPL. I'd recommend you follow this guide and read up on the wiki. Available cooked roms can be found in this forum.
EDIT
Any further queries regarding rom upgrade should be posted in this thread or thread of rom you decide to flash to.
Try and keep this thread on themes please.
Fallen Spartan said:
Your manila can be found by going to settings tab in TF3D and then scrolling down to 'About'
It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38658.2. The first 2 numbers i.e. 2.1 in this case state which manila you have
There appears to be no official update from HTC for a Indian rom. You can however update to any coooked rom by using either USPL or HSPL. I'd recommend you follow this guide and read up on the wiki. Available cooked roms can be found in this forum.
EDIT
Any further queries regarding rom upgrade should be posted in this thread or thread of rom you decide to flash to.
Try and keep this thread on themes please.
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It show the Version Touchflo 3d 1.3.35590.0_1630.38
ANd which ROM is best for the Indian HTC HD, and is the TOuchflow 3d Ver changed after the ROM Upgrade
Vatumb said:
It show the Version Touchflo 3d 1.3.35590.0_1630.38
ANd which ROM is best for the Indian HTC HD, and is the TOuchflow 3d Ver changed after the ROM Upgrade
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Then you don't have manila 2.0 or 2.1.
No one can provide you with the information 'which rom is best' as every rom appeals to different people. Best thing you can do is read each rom thread and make your own conclusion. As a pointer, the most widely used roms generally cooked by the following guys:
Duttythroy, Miri, NRGZ28, Laurentius26 & kwbr.
All of the latest roms generally use manila 2.1 and either wm6.1 or wm6.5 (should say on title of each thread)
Fallen Spartan said:
Then you don't have manila 2.0 or 2.1.
No one can provide you with the information 'which rom is best' as every rom appeals to different people. Best thing you can do is read each rom thread and make your own conclusion. As a pointer, the most widely used roms generally cooked by the following guys:
Duttythroy, Miri, NRGZ28, Laurentius26 & kwbr.
All of the latest roms generally use manila 2.1 and either wm6.1 or wm6.5 (should say on title of each thread)
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Thanks for the Quick Reply.
I want to install this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]
So will you help me how to start.
And after the Upgrade my Phone is Unser Warranty or NOT.
and How can i restore the Orignal ROM after the Upgrade, if i want to do that in future.
For help on flashing the ROM, read the guide in my signature.
For how to restore the stock ROM, read this thread where it says: How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
Also, it will be under warranty IF you restore it before you send it back for warranty purposes. If you send it back with a custom ROM/SPL on it HTC will most likely not warranty it.
Digital Outcast said:
For help on flashing the ROM, read the guide in my signature.
For how to restore the stock ROM, read this thread where it says: How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
Also, it will be under warranty IF you restore it before you send it back for warranty purposes. If you send it back with a custom ROM/SPL on it HTC will most likely not warranty it.
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Ok Suggest me which one to Install
[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]
[ROM] [Jul 24] [Dutty's WM6.5 R8 Turbo] [CE OS 5.2.23009] ]CHANGELOG 1-5] [ONLINE]
I won't do that. They are two totally different ROM's with totally different features. You should try them both out and see which you prefer
Digital Outcast said:
I won't do that. They are two totally different ROM's with totally different features. You should try them both out and see which you prefer
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I saw your Dummy Post.
Am not a techie person. So help me how to do that. Which MEthod is Easy
It really doesn't get any clearer/easier than that. That is a step-by-step guide. If you can't follow that I would suggest not flashing your device, or get someone to do it for you.
You should also read up on the Wiki. It will help you out a lot too.

is it possible to remove CHT from rom?

id like to remove CHT from some of these fine roms available on here, but dont know if its possible at all, there isnt a nice cab that would wipe it right out or something is there?
thanks!
maximus4 said:
id like to remove CHT from some of these fine roms available on here, but dont know if its possible at all, there isnt a nice cab that would wipe it right out or something is there?
thanks!
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if CHT is cooked in.. there is noway to remove it from the rom.
If you're using NRG's roms, you could just get a rom that doesn't have it. However, once you have cookie set the way you like, it's actually pretty useful. I prefer it over the other Sense mods I've used.
maximus4 said:
id like to remove CHT from some of these fine roms available on here, but dont know if its possible at all, there isnt a nice cab that would wipe it right out or something is there?
thanks!
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Look into NRG's Standard Energy or Standared Reference ROMS in post #2.
Hope that helps.
Sergio76 also has no-CHT ROMs.
However, this thread has nothing to do with ROM development. Moving to General.
Russ741
thanks for the responses, yeah im currently using energy's reference rom but was hoping i could lighten up some other roms. im very impatient hehe
YOU CAN in fact turn off the cht by simply go into setting-->home-->items, choose windows default. then you will use regular windows interface.
also, you can download the titanium version where it is veirtually no sense built in and use regular winmo interface.

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