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SMS problem: Can't send sms larger than 160 chars.

Hi all
I have come across the problem that I can't send SMS larger than 160 chars after I upgraded to the "official" WM6. I am using the Swedish version on a HTC TyTN. When I try and send a message that is larger than the 160 chars i get a message saying (loosely translated from Swedish) Can't send SMS. After I click ok I also get notification on the bottom left part of the sms window saying synchronization error.
Has anyone else got the same problem and if so have anyone found a solution.
/Nicklas

Just to clarify...
I take it to mean that you could sent sms that were over 160 characters before you upgraded?
Because most of the providers that I know don't allow that.
Found something on the forums about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293505
Hope it helps.

Yes I could since the SMS program automatically sends the large SMS in smaller parts.
Say I make an SMS with 203 chars then it would send it as 2 sms, one with the first 160 chars and then a second sms with 43 chars and when the SMS arrive to the recieving phone it will be put together if that phone is capable of that. Now days I think all phones can do this. Or at least should be able to do this but after the upgrade to WM6 this fails on my TyTN.

i guess the previous version of the SMS application was allowing what is called multiparts message, meaning it send as many SMS of 160 car regarding your text lengh but with no guarantee that the reviever will have them in the proper order
usually SMS is limited to 160 car

larsuck: Thanx for the link but nothing in that helped.
So if anyone else have any idea I would much appreciate it because it is a bit frustrating that it worked with wm5 and not with wm6 so far

Have you tried to take a look at DiStefano's Cab Collection? There is an Palm SMS application. You can try it with this application if it is possible on you're device. Its a small test!
Good luck

Well I found out how to fix it.
I did this:
Once upgraded settings need to be changed to ensure desired operation, on the device go to start>settings>connections(tab)>USB to PC, untick the box (Enable advanced network functionality) then exit back to the today screen.
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??? Why would this have an effect on SMS limitations?

I don't know exactly why but what I did was that I hard reseted the unit and after that multipart sms worked as it should. Then I connected the usb cable and ActivSync wanted to reconfigure the settings so I went through the wizard. One of the questions I get is if I want to let internet calls and mms to be sent when the unit is connected and I choose that. Then I let the unit sync with my PC.
After that I couldn't send multipart sms again until I unticked the Enable advanced network functionality box
If anyone knows why this is please enlighten me

help on a few SMS annoyances please

hello there, I have some stuff I'd like to change regarding SMS. I've got a P3300 with official WM6.
I'd prefer to change this through some options (tho I didn't find) or registry edit. If possible to do what I need without installing more (battery draining) applications, would be best, but if there is no other choice, I'll take a look at whatever application u suggest.
- when I am underground and I send an SMS, it tells me it can't be send, and the message goes into the temp. folder (dunno english name of this folder) and I have to resend it manually. I'd like it to resend automatically as soon as I have signal again. That's what my previous nokia phones did.
- when I send a SMS successfully, I get a popup and "ding" telling me it was send. I don't want this, I only want to know if there was an error. I send loads of messages, and this popup is rather annoying.
- since I have WM6, when i open messages through the today plugin, it always asks me if outlook, sms or mms... with wm5 it always went into the last one I used. I'd like this functionality back, is it possible?
is there any FAQ of different kind of tweaks that can be done with a P3300 wm6 just through options or registry? if yes, could you please link it, I'd like to take a look at that.
thx for everything

zandadoum said:
- when I am underground and I send an SMS, it tells me it can't be send, and the message goes into the temp. folder (dunno english name of this folder) and I have to resend it manually. I'd like it to resend automatically as soon as I have signal again. That's what my previous nokia phones did.
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sorry, no idea on this.
zandadoum said:
- when I send a SMS successfully, I get a popup and "ding" telling me it was send. I don't want this, I only want to know if there was an error. I send loads of messages, and this popup is rather annoying.
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There is a tweak for this. Search and you will find it or else, i will try to find it 4 you this weekend.
zandadoum said:
- since I have WM6, when i open messages through the today plugin, it always asks me if outlook, sms or mms... with wm5 it always went into the last one I used. I'd like this functionality back, is it possible?
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Yes, this question has been answered be4 too. Search and you will find it or else, i will try to find it 4 you this weekend. I thought its possible...

hopefully you can find that info and give me a hand. i tried the forum search function but as i dont know exactly what i am looking for, my search is too generic and i get loads of results (most about tweaked roms) that don't help me at all.
EDIT: found answer to 3) by myself. SOLUTION: open messages, go into menu->tools->options and there you can setup the different types of message accounts you have. at the bottom is an option to enable or disable the account selector. i just turned that off.

For the SMS sent notification:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Inbox/Settings/SMSNoSentMsg and set it to "1".

With the mentioned registry edit, you are not notified if the message fails to send. It just tries it, and puts it in sent items. If it fails it will not be re-send again by WM6.
you can fix the SMS/OUTLOOK/MMS thing in Options in your Messaging program.

ok, thx to that registry edit i get the sms sent popup no more. but i don't get any popup warning if it fails.
i've heard something about a different regedit key, with different numbers like
0 = no warn
1 = all warns
2 = only bla bla bla warn
3 = only ble ble ble warn
etc.
any1 got an idea about this?
also, any way to have the phone re-send failed sms automaticaly when i have signal again?
i am at a point that i would also try some SOFTWARE if needed, tho i prefer if it can be done just by registry.

Not familiar with those options. But why don't you give it a try and report back here.
GL

MMS :(

I know u guys get these like 5 times a day. Yes i used the search didnt find my answer. I just got a data plan and i set up my internet works fine. But my MMS is the only thing that doesnt work.. i was on the phone with rogers did everything they told me and then they said the only thing they could do is hard reset.. im running kavanas rom.

1Airborne1 said:
I know u guys get these like 5 times a day. Yes i used the search didnt find my answer. I just got a data plan and i set up my internet works fine. But my MMS is the only thing that doesnt work.. i was on the phone with rogers did everything they told me and then they said the only thing they could do is hard reset.. im running kavanas rom.
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Unbelievable... Have you heard of GOOGLE!
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-52197.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298609.html
Just to look at two...

yes ive heard of google and i woulnt have posted here unless i already tryed that. so i figured out i can end mms but cant receive

I wonder what you typed in the search box then.
First, set up the MMS connection:
Select Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections
Then select the Advanced Tab -> Select Networks -> New
Enter "Rogers MMS" (or some other name), then head to the Modem Tab and hit New again.
Enter "MMS" (or whatever you want, again), select Cellular Line (GPRS) (not just Cellular Line). Enter "media.com" as the APN.
The User Name is "media", the password is "mda01". Hit Finish.
Now, to set up the messaging app:
Open Messaging (I have it mapped to the default hard key) -> Menu -> Tools -> Options.
Tap on the existing MMS account (if you don't have one, you need to install the MMS app) to edit it, and make sure that the following options are set:
Retrieve messages immediately is checked
Attempts before giving up is 2
Photo resolution is QVGA (320x240).
Head over to the Servers tab and edit the existing entry (if there is one) or create a new one. Enter the following settings:
Server name: Rogers MMS (this one's up to you)
Gateway: 172.25.0.107
Port number: 8080
Server address: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
Connect via: Rogers MMS
Sending size limitation: 250K
WAP Version: WAP 2.0

i think this is for an earlier version of windows mobile. some of the things are quite abit diffrent

My MMS works

thanks captain totti for your responce and phatmanxxl thats very nice

1Airborne1 said:
i think this is for an earlier version of windows mobile. some of the things are quite abit diffrent
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It don't matter what version of WinMo you are running because what count are the IP number and all. You would use the same codes with a V3.

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It don't matter what version of WinMo you are running because what count are the IP number and all. You would use the same codes with a V3.
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thanks youve been quite helpful. I did everying it said and i can still only send them and not receive them it says message to be downloaded has expired or the screen will light up and nuthing will heppen.

Try to also check the other settings for say how much you set to download, from who and so fourth.
MMS do expire after a while if the person you sent it to can't view them.
If it lights up and does nothing, it could be that it is trying to send it again, or is trying to receive or sending out again and managed to do so.

well the max size i can make my message size to is 100 not 200 mabe thats got something to do about it. also when i hit send/recaive its just says errror syncronizing.

1Airborne1 said:
well the max size i can make my message size to is 100 not 200 mabe thats got something to do about it. also when i hit send/recaive its just says errror syncronizing.
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Every body gets the error when pressing send\recieve as the service is automatic there is no need to ever press that.

same here..
Mine is doing the same thing..Tmobile..reflashed last night to Kavana, manually put in all settings (mms / proxy). Phone sends MMS fine but will not receive them. Phone lights up when receiving MMS but never comes through. I will manually send/receive, and occasionally I see the envelope flash up with the down arrow, but it usually does nothing after that point...

I am also getting an 'Info' alert - Unable to receive your message(s). Your message(s) notification(s) will remain in your Inbox. - Press OK.
Hope I am not hijacking your thread, just sounds like we are having very similar issues.

yeah its seems like were just missing something small

can't receive or send any sms

hi guys
i ve a problem i am not able to receive or send any sms. My rhodium is tilt2 , I try to chage the radio from 4.49.25.91 to 4.48.25.20 to see if that may help but nope still stuck!
I am running the official european rom from htc (sense 2.5).
Any idea?

up

Does data work? Phone calls? SMS is on the same band as phone calls...if you can make calls you should be able to send/receive SMS.

NET
Install the NET messages3.5 cab its located inthe app section of this website
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com

well yes i can receive phone call.
I am going to install NET messages3.5 cab.

I know whenever I put a sim card into my Rhodium it looks for a service to connect to, and when you pick your carrier it sets everything up. Try removing it and putting it back in. Your problem seems to me that it is something wrong with the connection setup within the SMS area.
Also, If you have a buddy with the same phone on the same provider check his settings and see if they match up.

well after reinstalling the net 3.5 net i am still stuck.
I allready retry to get the right setting via the auto configuration when you put your sim card, put didn't get any luck!

resolved
I changed the text messages service center number to
+19703769301 (for att user)
and it is working

[Q] Sms notification when i unlock my phone

Hey,
I've got a problem with my tp2. When someone sends me a sms, I wont recieve it, untill i unlock my phone. When I unlock it, I will get the notification that i had a sms.
Is there a way to fix this problem?
(sorry for my English)
Erik

BumpBump
anyone?

same problem here i am a contractor and get most jobs via txt need help asap where are our senior members

Hmm... I'm not sure. I've not encountered this before. Which ROM and lockscreens are you using?

HTC Tilt2 (AT&T) Official ROM Update newest from htc site

To display the preview you have to do two things:
1. Wake Up on new SMS
Use a registry editor and change "HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIN\RIL" "DisableSMSWakeUpEvent" from "1" to "0"
2. Go to Start Menu > Settings > Personal > Sounds and then go over to the Notifications tab. Chose "Messaging: New text message" from the drop down menu. Then check the boxes that say "Play sound" and "Display message on Screen."
That should do it.

thanks soft reseting now

no go on the fix the screen lights up but no notifacation until the phone is unlocked

If you're using the stock or HTC lockscreen, then that's how it's supposed to be. If you want the message to pop up on the display à la iOS, then try a different lock screen like S2U2. There is a setting in there to make the message display on the lockscreen and either view (reply) or dismiss it.

still didnt do the trick phone has to be unlocked to get mms sms notify
about to give up and hard reset out the window

corylynnmitchell said:
still didnt do the trick phone has to be unlocked to get mms sms notify
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Right, that's how the stock lock screens are designed. That's why I suggested to install S2U2. It does what you're asking for.

i have had this phone for over a year it always notified me when a new sms came through whenn the phone was looked did i mention it notifies me off email but not sms

Hey,
Ye those things dont work.
I did a hard reset, and now it works propperly again, and my phone is way faster.
To bad this was my sollution.

corylynnmitchell said:
i have had this phone for over a year it always notified me when a new sms came through whenn the phone was looked did i mention it notifies me off email but not sms
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Well, if nlueray112 got it working after a hard reset, then my guess is that something you've installed or tweaked has disabled or broken the feature. If you aren't comfortable doing a hard reset, then simply try S2U2 as I suggested. It does what you are looking for within the app, without calling WM for a pass off.