Develop Bugs

Very Strange Brick Problem

Hi guys, I've read and used the forum for years and upgraded my Cingular 8525 a ton without troubles (followed Vanx's method for vista and for upgrading), but this is the first time I'm really stuck without a clue.
I had Schaps latest OS on my phone working fine for about three days. It was charging with the USB hook up to my Computer. I pulled the USB out and the phone entered bootloader. I couldn't get it out. I tried using mtty to no avail, hard reset ect., but finally used the SD loading method to put TNT's latest on it (don't know why this worked). Here's the thing though, the phone will load fine on first load after I flash, but if I soft reset or turn the phone off and on it goes right into bootloader mode. The only way I can get it to load up again is to connect it to the computer's USB, take out the battery and then put it back in. the OS then boots up without fail.
I have read a ton and searched on the forum, and if any of you can help me understand what the hell I can do to fix my phone I would really appreciate it. I will post anymore info you guys would like, I really need your help on this one.
Thank you so much!

Hi,
I posted exactly the same problem today ! here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381284
It's really strange !
Dave

I've been reading everything and it appears that Schaps's new version seems to have this problem sometimes....I have the exact same problem as everyone else (mtty gives me the same results), and flashing a new rom doesn't get rid of it....I hope there is some way to fix this!
maybe I'll try flashing a new radio and see if that helps things....

I did notice that flashing Schaps 4.31 seems to include radio 1.50 and I had changed my anyway to 1.43 as I thought that was better for my area.
Not sure a radio will help. Maybe a different ROM version will ? Maybe 3.54 ?

I have flashed TNT's rom as well and it still has the problem now....I'm flashing a new radio as I type, I'm going to have to reflash the OS too, it just got stuck again as it was restarting.

Just a quick thing, I think I have solved my problem (not sure if it is permanent) by powering the phone off and on. Not resetting, just a simple power off. I spoke to a colleague who said the way it shuts down is different to soft reset (makes sense) and I haven't powered my phone off properly for a long time.
I have tried soft reset a couple of times since doing this and it hasn't gone to the bootloader screen once.
Maybe this is the simple fix.
I will keep you posted.

try to flash OFFICIAL ROM first , maybe there are few bug / missing file when error appear while flashing other ROM.
I hope it will help you both.
rgds,
ermen

Use mtty to see if yo have any bad blocks... I've had a few problems the same as yours and found I had 1 or 2 extra bad blocks, after the 2 "factory standard" bad blocks I got on my jasjam of course. hope this helps...

My fix didn't work.
Not sure what I am suppossed to see when I run "task 2a".
Has anyone had any luck fixing this ?

Is There A Way ?

Howdy all... This is a Great Forum, I have really enjoyed it, and I thank all who have contributed their hard work making ROMs for HTC's.
I am not a Programmer, Just a Physician.... so I have a question.
I like so many others have flashed numerous ROMS to my 8525 searching for a stable, fast, dependable operating system for my phone.
Now that I have flashed so many ROM's, I think my phone is really confused. With each new ROM, it starts out fine, then the phone turns schizophrenic.... Things flash on and off and I can not control them. Sometimes the screen just locks up and even with a hard rebooting and pulling the battery... nothing cures it.
My question.... Is there a way to purge the system completely, start fresh? Like formating a hard drive to start fresh? I realiize the HTC doesnt have a hard drive, so that is out of the question. But is there a way to do the same so that the next ROM I flash will be somewhat stable?
Any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks to all Developers that are the Doctors to HTC's the same way that Physicians are to humans.
Doc

drcharliedavis said:
Howdy all... This is a Great Forum, I have really enjoyed it, and I thank all who have contributed their hard work making ROMs for HTC's.
I am not a Programmer, Just a Physician.... so I have a question.
I like so many others have flashed numerous ROMS to my 8525 searching for a stable, fast, dependable operating system for my phone.
Now that I have flashed so many ROM's, I think my phone is really confused. With each new ROM, it starts out fine, then the phone turns schizophrenic.... Things flash on and off and I can not control them. Sometimes the screen just locks up and even with a hard rebooting and pulling the battery... nothing cures it.
My question.... Is there a way to purge the system completely, start fresh? Like formating a hard drive to start fresh? I realiize the HTC doesnt have a hard drive, so that is out of the question. But is there a way to do the same so that the next ROM I flash will be somewhat stable?
Any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks to all Developers that are the Doctors to HTC's the same way that Physicians are to humans.
Doc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if it gets too confused make sure you get a shipped ROM handy at hand and don't forget to follow the doctor's orders.

Thanks
I would like to thank you for your quick response. I have downloaded the ATT ROM and the correct Radio as well as the instructions.
I will begin lifesaving techniques to my HTC and post the results.
Thanks Again, You are the Greatest!
Doc

Follow Up
Hi Zocster and fellow forum members,
Well I followed your instructions to the letter, only to discover that some of the tools do not work on a laptop that has Vista. So after fighting with that all day, I just let it rest a while and will tackle it again tomorrow.
Oh one question... what is the thing in the upper right corner of the phone, it has 3 diagonal liines and a triangle, when it opens it shows what programs are running. Is there a way to turn that option off? Also what can cause the touch screen to work some times and not work at other times? It is really frustratiing..
Any advise will be most appreciated.
Thanks
Doc

firstly to the point of saying you have problems flashing in vista, download sp1 install it and all other updates. Then download the latest version of WMDC(windows mobile device center) and you shouldnt have any problems, i have vista and have no trouble whatsoever flashing in vista.
The thing with the the 3 diagona lines and triangle that you mention is a task manager to kill programs that are running to allow you to free memory on the phone and allow it to run faster. Depending on what rom you flashed it will either be in add /remove programs or hard coded into the rom. If its in add/remove it will be call htc task manager just remove it. If its cooked into the rom the only way of removing it is to flash another rom. I cant see that being part of your problem though.
The touch screen problem might not be a screen problem per sa, your device maybe just running slow and the phone freezes temporarily to allow to finish what it is doing? have you tried or even realised what the page pool size is of the roms you are flashing? try flashing one with a 8mb page pool and see if that runs better. There is a tool to change page pool size floating about on here
I would though flash a stock(operator) rom first though then flash another rom. Try pda corners latest rom thats pretty fast, i am not saying its the best ,but it is quick and i like it

drcharliedavis said:
Is there a way to turn that option off?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
scousemartin said:
If its cooked into the rom the only way of removing it is to flash another rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well doc, as you want to turn this option off, the program is usually called "Task Manager" or "HTC Task Manager" and you can find it in "Settings -> [Tab]System ->Task Manager " and you can switch it off by going to the [Tab]Button and to un-tick the option "Enable Quick menu on Today screen".
another way to go to its settings is by clicking on it and then clicking on the "wrench" symbol.
concerning Vista issues, I never had a problem with it as i was using Vista before publishing SP1 and I did the SuperCID, HardSPL and the first upgrades under Vista... anyways, on Hermes wiki pages you can check solution#24 of Hermes Upgrade FAQ
good luck

Sprint Vogue - Upgraded from 6.1 to 6.5 and no internet or GPS

I used all of the step by steps on your site (xda) unlocked the phone, unplugged the cable when it told me to. I even ran the rom 3 times like someone suggested. Did the hard reset, and loaded the sprint cab file.
I get internet when plugged into my computer via usb cable. I love 6.5 but if I cant use the internet while away from a pc I cant use it. A have already gone back to 6.1 where everything is working. Please help me...

smsmustsng said:
I used all of the step by steps on your site (xda) unlocked the phone, unplugged the cable when it told me to. I even ran the rom 3 times like someone suggested. Did the hard reset, and loaded the sprint cab file.
I get internet when plugged into my computer via usb cable. I love 6.5 but if I cant use the internet while away from a pc I cant use it. A have already gone back to 6.1 where everything is working. Please help me...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which 6.5 rom are you using? If it's NFSFAN's, did you try his spring internet&gps posted in his thread? What sprint cab did you use? DCD's?

smsmustsng said:
I used all of the step by steps on your site (xda) unlocked the phone, unplugged the cable when it told me to. I even ran the rom 3 times like someone suggested. Did the hard reset, and loaded the sprint cab file.
I get internet when plugged into my computer via usb cable. I love 6.5 but if I cant use the internet while away from a pc I cant use it. A have already gone back to 6.1 where everything is working. Please help me...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same thing happen to me when I upgraded to 6.5 on my Sprint Touch (I also flashed the ROM 3 times). I ended up going back to 6.1 (everything works), re-upgrading to 6.5 (internet still didn't work), back to 6.1 and finally upgraded to 6.5 (everything works). Regarding the internet, make sure that your "Current username" in Device Information is [your sprint.com username]@sprintpcs.com. I think that was my problem... I only casually checked the GPS, so I am not sure when it worked and when it didn't, but it's working now. Good luck

cdude said:
Regarding the internet, make sure that your "Current username" in Device Information is [your sprint.com username]@sprintpcs.com. I think that was my problem...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
seems to be my issue as well, but i must be stupid. how do you change that. i have went through every setting that i can think of

jmleedy said:
seems to be my issue as well, but i must be stupid. how do you change that. i have went through every setting that i can think of
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think mine was configured automatically by Sprint when I was using the stock 6.1 ROM. If I am wrong about that (I tried so many different things), I must have edited "User Name" in the DATA [3282] phone code.

ok i am still dead in the water on this. i checked with sprint and they told me to go to start-settings-personal-phone and then under settings should be an internet or network option to which i should be able to hit the "get settings" button and it should be ok, however internet isn't even there and nothing ele seems to fix it? anyone?

Yeah, those options aren't in 6.5. Have you tried going back to 6.1 and checking the internet? HTC has the ROMs posted on their support pages (e.g. this is the Sprint one)

I had the same issue. Flashed what seems to be a billion times.
Now I'm just running a bare 6.1 stock rom and running android on it for a much, much better OS. 6.5 is amazing and all, but it still can't hold a candle to android. Next I need to try Hero, as I'm running cupcake.

When you flash back to 6.1 run the IOTA (provisions) under the settings to make your internet works. then when you flash to 6.5 you shouldn't need to run the provision or gps cabs. this has worked for me every time. so just make sure your internet works on whatever rom you are using before 6.5...

cdude said:
I think mine was configured automatically by Sprint when I was using the stock 6.1 ROM. If I am wrong about that (I tried so many different things), I must have edited "User Name" in the DATA [3282] phone code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The data [3282] keeps asking me for a password, ? Just need to change the user name so sprint tv will work.

Activesync cutting out whilst flashing wm6.1 rom

I put the applock on, i reboot, i double click the exe to run the dos thing, i allow my fone to run spl something, i click centre button, it says run the ruu ex, I do, and active sync disconnects before I can do anything else...Error 260...i can wait an hr an nothing happens. I've soft-reset, hard-reset, followed and understood and read every instruction but I just cannot get it to upgrade. The phones unlocked, the apps are unlocked. I've tried it without redoing the applock exe. I'm stuck. Any advice before I call it a day and keep my greedy wanting nature under control. All help much appreciated.

Bimbledwadle said:
I put the applock on, i reboot, i double click the exe to run the dos thing, i allow my fone to run spl something, i click centre button, it says run the ruu ex, I do, and active sync disconnects before I can do anything else...Error 260...i can wait an hr an nothing happens. I've soft-reset, hard-reset, followed and understood and read every instruction but I just cannot get it to upgrade. The phones unlocked, the apps are unlocked. I've tried it without redoing the applock exe. I'm stuck. Any advice before I call it a day and keep my greedy wanting nature under control. All help much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will recommend you to grab a cup of coffee or tea and read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537151 you definitely solve this problem if you follow the step by step guides.

gmaniac2008 ....cup of decaf tea, an i'll be back

Bimbledwadle said:
gmaniac2008 ....cup of decaf tea, an i'll be back
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.....let us know if you still have some problems after you read the STICKY, I'll be glad to help you

I tried with two of them but I cannot stop my activesync just disconnecting right when it tells me its going to start the update, then I get the error 260...you are not connected. then no matter how long I leave it it doesn't start. ive followed all the instructions to every detail. Im now completely bog-eyed n I cant concentrate anymore, so im leavin it till the morrow. THankx very...ill be back

active-sync problem
well, ive followed every single instance from all the options available and everything goes fine until it gets to the actual updating point and then active-sync cuts off,10 seconds later i get error 260 saying im not connected. Ive left it all alone to see if it will update as the usb cable is still attached but no. I havent had this problem with any other phone update or unlock or debranding. Ive noticed on google that others have the same problem and they were told to leave it running and it will continue to update but on all the options ive left it overnight and it hasnt updated and neither has theirs. All help stops after everyone else has done what ive done, its too near xmas to drown my sorrows but, thanks for help n have a lovely xmas n new year

When you press the center button and the screen turns white do you hear the chime windows make when a USB device is disconnected?

Bimbledwadle said:
well, ive followed every single instance from all the options available and everything goes fine until it gets to the actual updating point and then active-sync cuts off,10 seconds later i get error 260 saying im not connected. Ive left it all alone to see if it will update as the usb cable is still attached but no. I havent had this problem with any other phone update or unlock or debranding. Ive noticed on google that others have the same problem and they were told to leave it running and it will continue to update but on all the options ive left it overnight and it hasnt updated and neither has theirs. All help stops after everyone else has done what ive done, its too near xmas to drown my sorrows but, thanks for help n have a lovely xmas n new year
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, actually when you flash your activesync shut offs but your USB connection stills active, so that's normal.
Did you sda unlock your phone before you flashed?. You should do this every time you flash (well that's why I do), also make sure you remove your sd card; because these can cause error messages while you flash.
Other option can be try another PC or reinstall activesync, sometimes my laptop gets crazy and I get multiple errors when I flash, but when I use my desktop flashing goes smooth

yes I sda unlocked every time....i only have a lappy....i remove my sd card...i will uninstall n reinstall active sync.....I'll check out if any of my daughters' friends have desktops to see if I can do it that way. I shall try all that over xmas n new year n ill let you know how I get on. Many Thanx....

Bimbledwadle said:
yes I sda unlocked every time....i only have a lappy....i remove my sd card...i will uninstall n reinstall active sync.....I'll check out if any of my daughters' friends have desktops to see if I can do it that way. I shall try all that over xmas n new year n ill let you know how I get on. Many Thanx....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, I forgot to mention; if you have another USB cable try it also.
Hope that helps ..Merry Christmas and happy new year

im running Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for vista as it says active-synce 4.2/4.5 only works with xp. Could this be a problem ? Is this why I'm havin trouble with flashing the roms or am I red-herring myself ?

Bimbledwadle said:
im running Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for vista as it says active-synce 4.2/4.5 only works with xp. Could this be a problem ? Is this why I'm havin trouble with flashing the roms or am I red-herring myself ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is there no update on this situation? because i am currently attempting to flash a rom for my friends dash and i am having the same connection error problems. and she has a windows vista laptop. i am not sure if that is what the problem is. convinced its not the cord. during the update process it just disconnects once it gets to about 3 percent.

cediesaid said:
is there no update on this situation? because i am currently attempting to flash a rom for my friends dash and i am having the same connection error problems. and she has a windows vista laptop. i am not sure if that is what the problem is. convinced its not the cord. during the update process it just disconnects once it gets to about 3 percent.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3% error solution. Also, make sure you access your PC as an administrator and disable any firewall

My phone isnt recognized by my computer anymore

Hello,
i've got a problem like the title says. Everytime i connect my phone to the computer via usb, i get the message the device wasnt recognized by the computer. i tried everything i know, another usbport. etc. i want to install a new radio, but without connecting to the computer it isnt possible, because i dont have the usb debugging active.
i hope someone has an idea what i can do. i have rcmix 6.1.0.1 installed.

Are you using Windoze?
If you are unfortunate enough to be doing so then you might need to reinstall HTC Sync program (sometimes it works better if you completely uninstall it first including manually removing any left over folders and files in the application data folder.

thanks for the quick answer.
i tried it, but it didnt help. where is this application data folder? do you mean on the computer? i found after uninstalling no more folders from htc.
and yes i use windows home premium 64bit.
got another idea? now it says also the device does not function properly. i hope that nothing on the device is broken.

schorschl said:
thanks for the quick answer.
i tried it, but it didnt help. where is this application data folder? do you mean on the computer? i found after uninstalling no more folders from htc.
and yes i use windows home premium 64bit.
got another idea? now it says also the device does not function properly. i hope that nothing on the device is broken.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes he is talking about your computer... if in the "program files" you hasn´t anythink about HTC SYNC,, ALL IS OK...
but enssure that in the configuration panel-system-dispositive administrator you hasn´t any drive installed for your android device... if you have installed it, erase or uninstall it before re-install htc sync or the htc drivers....then you can re-install and reboot windoux...
and hey buddy!I recommend to you to consider to pass to linux, you will not have this type of mistakes... LOL
UBUNTU is great!

I'm afraid I don't know much about Windoze but memory serving appication data is a hidden folder so you will need to change it to view them and is in the Documents and Settings / [Your username] directory.
Device not function is just a default Windoze error when it can't install something, ignore it, your phone is fine.
If you have reinstalled HTC Sync, try a USB port on the opposite side of the PC. So if you trying ones next to each other on the front, try ones on the back (they use different headers on the motherboard).
If that doesn't work then I'm afraid I probably won't be of much more use, sorry.

SERGI.3210 said:
and hey buddy!I recommend to you to consider to pass to linux, you will not have this type of mistakes... LOL
UBUNTU is great!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best advice ever. Ubuntu user here too (thus for me everything just works ).

Mr_JMM said:
Best advice ever. Ubuntu user here too (thus for me everything just works ).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The use of linux is good to understand better android OS you don´t believe?
you said it.... EVERYTHING WORKS

thanks guys for your help, but although i followed your advices, except the one to switch to linux ;-), it hasnt got better yet. the problem is still exsisting and i dont know what else i can do.
anyone got an idea how to install radio without having usb debugging and the drivers from the computer?

Hi!
I've got the same problem with 2 different PCs, one with Win7 64-bit, the other with Win XP PRO.
Other devices work fine with the same USB ports, so i doubt it's windows or the PC...

schorschl said:
thanks guys for your help, but although i followed your advices, except the one to switch to linux ;-), it hasnt got better yet. the problem is still exsisting and i dont know what else i can do.
anyone got an idea how to install radio without having usb debugging and the drivers from the computer?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can´t flash any radio if your phone is not recognized
well.. Let's continue with the problem in question...
1.At some time could you have connected it?with the stock rom maybe?
2.have you tried to swich on mass storage usb mode?what´s the result?
3.when you tries to swich the phone for flash some radio you enables "usb debug"
and "only chargue"?
its a weird problem

Hey man, I've had the same problem with my old Desire (normal). Which was actually broken.. Went back to the store twice and it was sent to htc twice. But that one wasn't rooted tho. But in the end, the sensors were broken & something inside the phone that didn't recon the pc. But also try a full wipe, which helped temporarily for me.

1. yes i functioned, not only with stock rom, but also with the next few custom roms. but then 2 weeks ago the problem occured and i dont know why. before i used custom roms for months.
2. it also doesnt recognize the mass storage anymore, i dont see the memorycard as a storage device in explorer.
3. yes i turned usb debugging on and connected charging only, i flashed radios before. but the problem with the actual is, that my signalstrength is weak and so i wanted to flash the recommended for this rom, and so i recognized there is something wrong, cause my problem here occured.
normally i sync with myphoneexplorer so i didnt realize that mass storage didnt function anymore.
and because earlier i got no problems, i think more and more, that something on the phone went wrong.
maybe it helps if i go back to stockrom and undo all changes i made, to start all over again?
again thanks mate for your effort to help me out

maikel16 said:
Hey man, I've had the same problem with my old Desire (normal). Which was actually broken.. Went back to the store twice and it was sent to htc twice. But that one wasn't rooted tho. But in the end, the sensors were broken & something inside the phone that didn't recon the pc. But also try a full wipe, which helped temporarily for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maybe this is his problem...

schorschl said:
1. yes i functioned, not only with stock rom, but also with the next few custom roms. but then 2 weeks ago the problem occured and i dont know why. before i used custom roms for months.
2. it also doesnt recognize the mass storage anymore, i dont see the memorycard as a storage device in explorer.
3. yes i turned usb debugging on and connected charging only, i flashed radios before. but the problem with the actual is, that my signalstrength is weak and so i wanted to flash the recommended for this rom, and so i recognized there is something wrong, cause my problem here occured.
normally i sync with myphoneexplorer so i didnt realize that mass storage didnt function anymore.
and because earlier i got no problems, i think more and more, that something on the phone went wrong.
maybe it helps if i go back to stockrom and undo all changes i made, to start all over again?
again thanks mate for your effort to help me out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you´re welcome companion
i reded in a spanish forum ( www.htcmania.es ) about your problem and there´s people that had the same problem with a S.GALAXY S & desire HD...
someone was solved it fullwiping and formating (in the paragraph of mounts & storage into CWM) and flashing another ROM... then they formatted their sd card with a card reader OF THE PC... later they was formatted the sd card from the pc and the problem was disapeared successfully...
BUT if it persists i think that you should (mi suggestion) send your machine to the thecnical service....

ok, will try this today evening when i'm home. if this doesnt work i will reset it in the orginial state and send it to the technical support. i will leave a comment if i was successful, perhaps this will help others with the same problem.

schorschl said:
ok, will try this today evening when i'm home. if this doesnt work i will reset it in the orginial state and send it to the technical support. i will leave a comment if i was successful, perhaps this will help others with the same problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good idea mate
see you soon

finally after long hours of work, i have to state, that nothing changed.
i tried everything, but its still the same.
so i think i will send it in to the technical service.
does anyone of you know if they will say something about the software i changed? because i now i cant go back to stock radio.
thanks for your help.

finally after long hours of work, i have to state, that nothing changed.
i tried everything, but its still the same.
so i think i will send it in to the technical service.
does anyone of you know if they will say something about the software i changed? because i now i cant go back to stock radio.
thanks for your help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oops!!don't say anything LOL! you lose warranty...unroot and disable custom recovery...of your phone flashing an official ruu and then do S-OFF... ITS sufficient..
edit: sorry FOR your DHD
Sent from my Nokia 3210 running the worst symbian using the XDA app powered by LOL

hi mate, i also had the same problem, i connected my dhd to the back usb port of my pc and it was ok. and i also got this problem when i was using a non genuine htc usb cable.

weird!!! can it be possible?
EDIT:I´M using a NOKIA N97 genuine cable and works perfect... LOL