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Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.
WOW!
It's on the nike too!
Can't wait to see if they release it for the nike!
=]
Good luck to you excalibur users, My brother owns one =]
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Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.
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What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.
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What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
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Ditto. And I hope it's a little more spiffed than what I've seen from the SDK emulator and the "leaked" pics of the supposed first phone.
spikey911 said:
What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.
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Then... Why are you here?
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Now playing: Marilyn Manson - tourniquet
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Ok here
Better Quality:
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What do you guys think now? Doesn't it look pretty similar to the photos?
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Then... Why are you here?
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Probably to find out things about the Dash? Maybe to soak in new tech, but hay i'll say the same doesn't look impresive and i'm def not here to listen to Manson
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Then... Why are you here?
<annoying foxytunes crap snipped>
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I'm here because I believe in helping people get the most from their dash through greater information availability...that and I actually *like* some of the guys on this board.
That having been said, I'm not a fan of Microsoft who, unless there is significant competition from one or more outside sources, will *not* innovate since they know they have consumers by the balls.
I'm all for checking out Android since it's open-source. As it's about the only thing that promises major, widespread, worldwide consumer competition for Microsoft, it will hopefully light a fire under their respective asses to actually improve their stagnant PDA-phone operating system. The supposed WM7 pics and videos might be a start, but they're already way behind.
I've used smartphones since WM2002, and it really hasn't changed fundamentally since then. To use the current political language, Microsoft can only keep putting fresh lipstick on a pig for so long.
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Then... Why are you here?
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That's a dumb question...
I am here because I own a Dash and I LOVE it.
I am here because YOU asked for our opinions.
I am here because this is a GREAT group of people with a lot of knowledge and skill.
However this discussion is about WM7, which the Dash WILL NOT HAVE.
Those Youtube videos don't even show 2 seconds worth of video of the phone, what exactly are we supposed to see?
Thanks for asking, but next time if you want peoples opinions, don't always expect them to agree with yours....
Beartard, you are absolutely right, I have had a PPC since day one, and its pretty much the same today as back then..
Wow, tough crowd. I appreciate the video surfacing again, and it shows some things which we did not appreciate then:
1) Sliding panels is coming to WM Professional.
2) The live mesh integration client is pretty cool.
3) WM7 is going to look cool too.
For the people looking for change over the years, I have been using WM since 2000, and I have seen plenty of change.
Surur
what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html
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what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.
Carebear85 said:
If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.
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I don´t know if it will be possible, given the hardware´s age. In fact, you should take a read on this article from WMexperts saying that no device available today is (or will be) able to run WM7.
Regards
i sold my Motorola Mpx200 with WM5 operating ROM, it needed the SD card ALLWAYS in the phone cause system files where there!!
regards
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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Hey senor clown
windows mobile 7 thumbs down
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference
i would love to hav this even if its not fully functional just to see what w7 feels like
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i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference
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The hd2 is a great device, it will be the first device capable of running 3 OS (WM, Android and WM7). I'm still sticking with WM for a while but will definitely get an android phone in the near future. Regarding the dash with WM7, I really doubt we can see something since hardware will not allow...but a theme can be a possibility.
Not that anybody would even think it and i'm probably pointing out the obvious, but there's no hope for microsoft even bringing out 7 updates for even the latest phones, which is sad. The HD2 wasn't allowed one because it apparently didn't have the right button layout. (I mean come on.) I wish microsoft would just release some of this software for dated phones like the Dash, just for us to have a play around with.
try this theme
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try this theme
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if that does the same also lie
Only WM7 skin
awesome theme, great job
now just need to find someway to get zune in WM 6.5 and update titanium weather to latest build
I just seen a demo/preview of the Windows 7 Mobile Operating System and I must say it looks very nice (take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo)
I am curious if it could be used on the TP2/Tilt2 devices once its release in November?? If so, I am very excited.
Does anyone have any insight on this??
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611052
Until we can get a working version of 7 Series, I find this discussion pointless.
All we know is from one conference, and a bunch of videos demoing it.
From what we were told at the recent conference:
- Needs capacitative screen for multi-touch with at least four points of touch
- Needs 1Ghz processor or equivalent (the demo device had a Snapdragon)
- Accelerometer
- 5-mega-pixel camera
- FM Radio
- WVGA screen (480×800 not mentioned as a requirement, only WVGA)
- Every phone will have a Bing (search) button, Start button, and a back button.
What the Touch Pro2 is lacking:
- The 1Ghz speed
- Capacitative screen
- 5-mega-pixel camera
My guess is that it will not be a complete rewrite as history has shown time and time again. The restive screen code might still be there for some smart person to re-enable but I highly doubt that all the features of the OS will work through resistive. Also the screen size has not been listed as a requirement, only WVGA was stated. I know all current WVGA devices have a resolution of 480x800 but higher resolutions exist on paper. So at 480x800, is that enough?
My final thoughts: many will try but the screen and over all speed will be a major issue to deal with. If it does get ported to the TP2, the over all experience will be poor enough to fall back to a 6 Series OS.
i dont think it will be well received. it doesnt look like it runs any current windows mobile apps.
From looking at that youtube vid who cares if you can run it on a TP2! Why would I want to ?
Not very impressive. What's the bet it's the same old thing with a different gui ?
dik23 said:
From looking at that youtube vid who cares if you can run it on a TP2! Why would I want to ?
Not very impressive. What's the bet it's the same old thing with a different gui ?
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I couldn't help watching it and thinking "I don't see anything yet that I'm willing to pay $600 for." It looks nice, but I say wait and see how Microsoft turns it into a pile of crap...
Hey, maybe it'll come with glasses and be in 3D. Seems unlikely though.
If you want to make money short Microsoft (IMO)
I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever
I doubt very much that Windows Phone 7 Series will come to any older devices excpet for possibly the HTC HD2.
A big part is it requires a GPU for the animation, and unless WP7S has drivers for the TP2 (if the GPU is even good enough) your not gonna get anywhere.
Also Capacitive will be a stumbling block. There will be plenty of new phones out that will run it very well. So it will be a perfect time to upgrade to a CPU that is atleast 1Ghz.
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I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever
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What the hell are you expecting, really?
rorytmeadows said:
What the hell are you expecting, really?
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multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)
sirphunkee said:
multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)
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Oh yes! I was hoping I could have an iPhone while staying loyal to MS!
MCbrian said:
Oh yes! I was hoping I could have an iPhone while staying loyal to MS!
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As you've seen, Redmond anticipated your wish, and officially granted it a few days ago lol.
I should probably state my position on this a little better than I first did:
While I don't argue that this new OS is indeed advanced (perhaps even revolutionary), and seems quite capable at what it does...I still feel strongly that this is not the spiritual successor to the current evolutionary path of the windows mobile platform. I know that's why they played semantics with the marketing name, tagging it with the "7" as if it was the next logical step from 6.5...when in reality it's only a timely branding tie-in to the success of the desktop 7.
Let me put it this way...if the desktop 7 had been a flop, they would have called this new gadget The ZunePhone, because it's that much more than it is WinMo7.
Can I see a show of hands for who else is seriously concerned that what we love most about WM is not likely to be around for very much longer...? I know there's been remarks made that 6.5+ will still be supported, developed for, etc...but until I see some confirmed roadmaps and such, I still think the natural life expectancy of my platform of choice looks a lot more finite than it did a little over a week ago.
EDIT: Right after I wrote that, I found some news that makes me feel a little better about some of this
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EDIT: Right after I wrote that, I found some news that makes me feel a little better about some of this
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"Windows Phone Classic" Well...better than nothing.
MCbrian said:
"Windows Phone Classic" Well...better than nothing.
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Yes, we're now like the AM radio of the mobile phone world.
"Doesn't gramps still have his Windows Phone Classic..phone?" "Yeah he keeps it in the box under his bed with his baseball cards and war medals"
sirphunkee said:
Yes, we're now like the AM radio of the mobile phone world.
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Actually, I'm old enough to think of a different comparison:
Years ago Coke came out with "New Coke" with a new taste -- more like Pepsi...and the backlash was so strong that they had to bring back the original recipe as "Coke Classic" in parallel with New Coke.
Unfortunately, I think MS is trying to attract the majority of potential customers who don't [think they] like WM...so they're coming out with something that's not WM.
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I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever
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im more excited about getting android on my phone.
what was the point of the windows mobile marketplace and 6.5.x and all that if they where going to ditch everything about windows mobile and start a new? (remind anyone of palm?)
rorytmeadows said:
What the hell are you expecting, really?
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Yeah, I suppose expecting innovation from a massive dinosaur like MS is asking a bit much.
dik23 said:
Yeah, I suppose expecting innovation from a massive dinosaur like MS is asking a bit much.
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What would innovation be? If you want phones with simple interfaces, macforums.com can accommodate your needs.
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multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)
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I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to do this, from what I've read already. Plus, think about what you mean when it comes to multitasking because it means different things to different people.
STOP BELIEVING things that have no evidence behind them.
MS has NOT said that multitasking won't exist.
MS has NOT said that backwards compatibility won't exist.
MS has NOT said much more than the little said earlier this week. Stop believe what WMexperts has told you, it turns out MS was just taking you for a ride with those rumors.
Stop being an idiot and wait and see what happens when it comes to the release date.
You guys are basing your opinions on what you saw 8 months before the actual release of the product. THINK ABOUT IT. Just because your dumbass thinks this and that about a premature product, doesn't mean anything. STOP jumping to conclusions. It's really making you look dumb. MS is not going to sit there demoing a new product and talk about copy and paste. Why would they? Ohhhh, because SOOOOOO many people care about that in the world. I appreciate copy and paste and backwards compatibility just as everyone else does, but the truth of the matter is, you just don't know anything about Windows Phone 7.
when will we get a wm7 rom?
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when will we get a wm7 rom?
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It's probably a bit too early to tell. I'm not sure if there's even an exact date on when wp7 will come out. And even when that arrives, it'll be quite a while until we can make a ROM of it to work on the tp2/tilt2.
I'm going to go with never. There are so many giant obstacles which make it incredibly unlikely that this device can even run Windows Mobile 7, let alone have a working Windows Mobile 7 ROM hacked onto it. AFAIK, it's just about impossible to put WM7 onto the Rhodium.
but would you even want it.
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when will we get a wm7 rom?
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There is a dedicated section for WP7, please read there to see the working developement
I don't understand what anyone would really gain in going to WM7.... I like 6.5 just fine, especially with a cooked ROM.
Scott
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but would you even want it.
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.
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no multitasking, no flash card, encrypted filesystem, apps only from marketplace, no custom UI, PC access only via zune software...
might as well call it wPhone
i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!
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i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!
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i like WM.65 on my TP2, but my next phone will definitely be an android phone
Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
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Most of your options don't make "sense", so I can't vote!
Whilst it may be possible to port WP7 to the Desire hardware, your first two poll options are to port WP7 to Android which is nonsensical!
Personally, from what I've seen of WP7 so far, there is nothing that makes me want to move away from Android at present, but that doesn't preclude it happening in the future. However, if I did want to move to WP7, I'd almost certainly buy a phone dedicated to it rather than attempt to cobble together something on an Android phone.
Regards,
Dave
shockem said:
Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
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even if it was possible, which it's NOT, none of the developers here would do it as its ILLEGAL, we dont own a LICENCE for wp7, it would be no diffrent to distributing PIRATE copy's of windows 7....
indeed, most of us here bought an android device because we wanted to customise our phones or because we got tired and annoyed with other OSes(especially WM, urg...!{yeah, I know I have the HD2, it pisses me off...=.="'}), but if there are any developers porting WP7, I'd like to see it emulated only.
Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
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Dave
foxmeister said:
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
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Dave
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that would be down to microsofts discretion, previously they havent made much of an issue out of us porting newer versions of windows mobile to, older windows mobile devices, and imo i dont think they would start now, ie porting wp7 to the HD2 ect.... but i cant see them sitting back and letting people port wp7 to a device with no microsoft licence all together. they didnt get to be the biggest company in the world by letting things like that slide
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
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sell your android and buy another phone !
philje123 said:
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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i watched the wp7 keynote speach yesterday and was quite impressed, the people hub and the office hub both look very impressive, and as an xbox live gamer, the games hub looks awsome things i dont like about it are, it seems more of a feature phone than a smart phone, and like the iphone its very ms orientated, i dont like that, you can use android without even knowing google develop it