Develop Bugs

Back button and Mango

I find there are a number times when navigation is problematic on WP7, caused by a few design issues:
- there being a back button but no forward button
- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
- IE relies on the hardware back button and you can lose your navigation history if you leave IE, go back in and try to navigate back.
I think most WP7 users will know what I'm talking about.
My question is - do people think the Mango update with multitasking will solve this? I can't see enough detail in the online demos to be sure, but I would hope that it does get around these issues.

I'm sure that with Mango's fast app switcher (the new tap-and-hold back button) you will have much more flexibility than today.
But, I'm not sure what you mean by "you lose your navigation history" in IE. Even if I back out of IE, when I go back in, tap the favorites icon, and flick to the History pivot, I still see all of the pages I visited in the list. Maybe I am doing something different, or else I am misunderstanding your problem.

i think he meant...
1: go browse using ie, and visit several pages by following links
2: press windows key to go back to homescreen
3: launch ie again (through its tile, not the back button)
4: history gone. you'll be back to the last page you were visiting, but that's it. if you press the back button, it'll take you out of ie and into the homescreen.
this annoys me as well.

Website A,
click link to B,
check emails,
return to IE (via back button),
on website B,
want to go back to A: not possible via back button
It is unintuitive to open favorites(!) then change to history only to go one site backwards.

Yep that's the scenario exactly.
I checked what Android does because it has a very similar setup of a hardware back button. However, they get it right and the solution is very simple.
On Android when you go back into the browser, the hardware back button takes you back through browser history until there is no more history. Then the next press takes you back in the application screen history. I only tried it quickly but it seems to solve the problem that WP7 exhibits.
I think the only foolproof option is like iOS where the back button is onscreen and part of the application. The downside is that it clutters up the display a lot. When I use an iPhone now the actual screen space for the application seems very small.

BlitterTwisted said:
- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
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That's changing in Mango. Developers will be able to allow users to pin pages in their app to the home screen not just the app itself.
The example shown at MIX11 was that if we create a News app which has a world news page, a country specific news page and a financial page (for example); the user could then pin the financial page to the start screen.
There is no limit on the amount of tiles per app, so the user could chose to pin all three pages to their start screen. Clicking on any of these tiles would take them straight to the page of interest not the main page.
Of course, this requires app developers to implement the new tiles in their app (but it's not difficult).
Casey

That is interesting, although you're talking more about linking within an app, where sometimes the issue is more about remembering state i.e. reloading an app and it being back on the page you were on.
To be fair, support for this on iOS is patchy, some apps do it and some don't. And the MS guidelines specifically say that the app must restart from home when loaded from a tile. I wonder if this was in preparation for the multitasking features, although I will still like to be able to use a tile to launch an already-running (tombstoned) app and have it take me back to where I was when I left it. From what I've seen of Android, it does this.

Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.

digger1985 said:
Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.
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that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.

Mestiphal said:
that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.
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Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.

dtboos said:
Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.
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That's interesting actually if they do that I can see it helping. Proving that when returning to a browser page, you can still use the back button to work the browser rather than just jumping back to where you were before.
If they're gonna carry on with the back button doing special stuff in the browser, they need to implement the Android trick of the back button going back through browser history until the start, then going back through application screen history.

Multi-window buttons disappeared

Hello people,
I'm a long time lurker and first time poster
I got my GN2 a few days ago and absolutely love it. The only problem is that when I use the multi-window function, I don't see the "fullscreen" and "switch screen" buttons anymore. They were there when I got it, but they somehow disappeared.
I checked all the settings, but I can't seem to find a way to re#enable them.
I feel kinda noobish.
Anyone had the same problem?
Thanks in advance,
TG

TheGabbo88 said:
Hello people,
I'm a long time lurker and first time poster
I got my GN2 a few days ago and absolutely love it. The only problem is that when I use the multi-window function, I don't see the "fullscreen" and "switch screen" buttons anymore. They were there when I got it, but they somehow disappeared.
I checked all the settings, but I can't seem to find a way to re#enable them.
I feel kinda noobish.
Anyone had the same problem?
Thanks in advance,
TG
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I'm guessing you are tapping on that bar in the middle to make that button appear?

TheGabbo88 said:
Hello people,
I'm a long time lurker and first time poster
I got my GN2 a few days ago and absolutely love it. The only problem is that when I use the multi-window function, I don't see the "fullscreen" and "switch screen" buttons anymore. They were there when I got it, but they somehow disappeared.
I checked all the settings, but I can't seem to find a way to re#enable them.
I feel kinda noobish.
Anyone had the same problem?
Thanks in advance,
TG
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I know what you mean periodically disappears for me to, then reappears...

Yes, I do tap the bar, but nothing shows up...
But glad to know I'm not the only one having this problem...hopefully someone will find a solution..
Best,
TG

no your not the only one me too ,never seen them on my note

Nobody found a solution?

TheGabbo88 said:
Nobody found a solution?
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Hi folks, holding down the back button seems to make the multiwindow tab reappear. ..hope that works for you

The switch and full screen options appear whenever you resize the windows. Try moving the bar in the middle up or down and they would appear.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

It didn't work before doing any of the above...
Now I just flashed a new firmware and everything is well
Thanks for the hints though

hold the back key will show/hide the multi- screen
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Hi folks, holding down the back button seems to make the multiwindow tab reappear. ..hope that works for you
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Thank you very much for the hint.
i found out after your hint that holding the back key will show/hide the multi-screen option. so you can see the small blue button on the left side of your screen.

Damn. .. gone are the days people used to read the manual
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)

[solved] how to back out of apps

Ok, I may be stupid, but how do you back out of apps on the Moto 360? If I open mini launcher, or moto steps, I cannot "back out" unless I hit the physical button which turns the screen off..........that's annoying.........

Not that I'm in a hurry, but am I just being dumb?? I figured someone would tell me I asked a stupid question by now? Do we all really have to turn the watch on and off basically in order to get back to the watch face?

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Not that I'm in a hurry, but am I just being dumb?? I figured someone would tell me I asked a stupid question by now? Do we all really have to turn the watch on and off basically in order to get back to the watch face?
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Swipe left.

Ok, I open "moto body steps" and it shows my steps, I swipe left and I get a "total" left again and I get a menu to pick the "units of measure" left again and nothing, right past the initial page and I'm back at "mini launcher" left from mini launcher and I get a menu showing my battery, the brightness, and some buttons for wife and other items..... right again and nothing..... the same is true from any app I open from Mini Launcher, so maybe that's the problem??

tried to open from the "start" menu and even from there it was exactly like above.....

digthemlows said:
tried to open from the "start" menu and even from there it was exactly like above.....
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Swipe from the left, but place the finger in the middle of the watch screen.
You can assign on your mobile with Wear Mini Launcher application from where the drawer position should be.
Left, bottom or right

I knew I was going to feel stupid, but I also feel much better. The first 2 days I had this watch I had a lot of trouble figuring out how I could make it useful, it seemed almost silly...... but as I continue to wear it I am seeing it's usefulness!! Thanks everyone, I'll mark it "solved" ..... and yes, it's almost always operator error for me

It's all because you didn't go through the initial intro on the watch or on the android wear app... You skipped out of it..
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk 2

[Q] Viperrom Stuck in full screen mode -Status bar and bottom hide until I swipe

Stuck in full screen mode -
The Status bar and bottom bar auto hide. until I swipe to bring them back. How do I disable? On viper rom.

Wrong place to post. There is a thread for ViperROM believe it or not.

I wasn't certain it was because of viper rom, as I can find no relevant setting in Venom tweaks to fix this. Is there a core Android setting for this? I've searched extensively and found nothing.

I believe this is in the right forum now.
any ideas?

ok well... strange that my android started going full screen on viperrom suddenly and no one knows how to change it back. guess it's time to wipe and start over.

sirtom1 said:
ok well... strange that my android started going full screen on viperrom suddenly and no one knows how to change it back. guess it's time to wipe and start over.
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I know this is kind of an old thread, but I just had the same problem. I think I put it in fullscreen mode while it was in my pocket and couldn't figure out what was going on for about 2 hours. For anyone else that encounters the same situation, here's the solution:
Press and the power button. At the bottom of the "Phone options" window that pops up is the Fullscreen mode option.
Also found that when I take it out of fullscreen mode, I have to reboot it to get the Status Bar to stop auto-hiding.

Thanks
you're a life saver,
i dont know i missed that out, i rebooted the phone a dozen times and scoured the venom tweak settings for hours to no avail
thaks again
buddy_lee said:
I know this is kind of an old thread, but I just had the same problem. I think I put it in fullscreen mode while it was in my pocket and couldn't figure out what was going on for about 2 hours. For anyone else that encounters the same situation, here's the solution:
Press and the power button. At the bottom of the "Phone options" window that pops up is the Fullscreen mode option.
Also found that when I take it out of fullscreen mode, I have to reboot it to get the Status Bar to stop auto-hiding.
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buddy_lee - You're awesome. Thank you. I'd been dealing with this for a few weeks and it was driving me insane. I"ve looked through every setting on the phone, viper, and nova and couldn't figure it out. Can't believe how simple it actually was.
THANK YOU

Thank you so much!! I was crazy because cannot find out why my navigation bar auto hide, for about 2 hours. You are my hero.
I just register as a new member for comment and thank you for your help buddy_lee
buddy_lee said:
I know this is kind of an old thread, but I just had the same problem. I think I put it in fullscreen mode while it was in my pocket and couldn't figure out what was going on for about 2 hours. For anyone else that encounters the same situation, here's the solution:
Press and the power button. At the bottom of the "Phone options" window that pops up is the Fullscreen mode option.
Also found that when I take it out of fullscreen mode, I have to reboot it to get the Status Bar to stop auto-hiding.
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Disable HiSearch Notice

Hi there I have recently brought the mate 20 x and so far the phone is great but there is an annoying feature that I can't seem to switch off and disable.
On the home screen when you swipe down this Hisearch Notice screen pop up and you can everywhere or cancel (I cancel as it asks for to much info). This makes having screen widgets impossible to which I use lots of as in the widget when you scroll down this notification still pops up
Does anyone know how to disable this feature would really be helpful
Thanks

Djsmalls said:
Hi there I have recently brought the mate 20 x and so far the phone is great but there is an annoying feature that I can't seem to switch off and disable.
On the home screen when you swipe down this Hisearch Notice screen pop up and you can everywhere or cancel (I cancel as it asks for to much info). This makes having screen widgets impossible to which I use lots of as in the widget when you scroll down this notification still pops up
Does anyone know how to disable this feature would really be helpful
Thanks
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Check this: I followed it and got google feed on right swipe without any problem. It was easy to follow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/help/evr-tl00-ok-google-google-feed-instead-t3873070

nmrman said:
Check this: I followed it and got google feed on right swipe without any problem. It was easy to follow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/help/evr-tl00-ok-google-google-feed-instead-t3873070
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Hi yes I had seen this and was trying the code at first it wasn't working but then I eventually figured it out and it worked.
Thanks for the reply much appreciated