Epix (I907) Rom Irony - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

It is remarkable that we cannot get a custom ROM for the Epix.
The only non ATT Rom I have access to that I could put on my Epix is a Beta Windows Mobile 7 build which cannot easily be rolled back and is not completely functional.
It is Ironic that Microsoft is using the Epix and the T8285 (Touch HD with 850 UMTS) as the prototype devices for WM7, yet no one has built native custom roms for these phones.
(The Touch HD Roms are designed for the T8282 which kills the US 3G support)

pidsw said:
It is remarkable that we cannot get a custom ROM for the Epix.
The only non ATT Rom I have access to that I could put on my Epix is a Beta Windows Mobile 7 build which cannot easily be rolled back and is not completely functional.
It is Ironic that Microsoft is using the Epix and the T8285 (Touch HD with 850 UMTS) as the prototype devices for WM7, yet no one has built native custom roms for these phones.
(The Touch HD Roms are designed for the T8282 which kills the US 3G support)
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WM7 ?! Care to share? If the Epix is more or less similar to the i780 maybe something will be possible.... but I need an EXE updater or BINARY of the PDA..... what's worse I cannot test it....
edit: Sooooo... not interested?

Isn't it typical that cooked ROMs don't show up until after an "official" one has been put out there? I'm guessing once ATT does an update (if they ever do) there will be a bunch that are born shortly after.
I've also read that the Epix actually has more in common with the Omnia than the i780, although obviously has aspects of both.
My big question is whether or not the Epix will get the 6.5 upgrade. It has the specs to handle it for sure, and now that Microsoft has greenlighted phones that meet minimum specs it's up to ATT. Unfortunately I have little faith they'll go to the trouble of doing it instead of just releasing new phones that already come with 6.5. You'd think that support for phones would last as long as the contracts (2 years), but the real cycle seems more like 9 months!

Cascade2 said:
Isn't it typical that cooked ROMs don't show up until after an "official" one has been put out there? I'm guessing once ATT does an update (if they ever do) there will be a bunch that are born shortly after.
I've also read that the Epix actually has more in common with the Omnia than the i780, although obviously has aspects of both.
My big question is whether or not the Epix will get the 6.5 upgrade. It has the specs to handle it for sure, and now that Microsoft has greenlighted phones that meet minimum specs it's up to ATT. Unfortunately I have little faith they'll go to the trouble of doing it instead of just releasing new phones that already come with 6.5. You'd think that support for phones would last as long as the contracts (2 years), but the real cycle seems more like 9 months!
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Actually the dump from the Epix that is available is cook-able, however I would like to try the WM7 ROM that is mentioned in the first post... the poster hasn't replied to my PM yet

I appologize for the delay.
I work at microsoft and it turns out that my name and employee info is in there in various places (I have to key in to get a build and it modifies various bits so that if I "loose" the phone, they know how to remotely wipe + hard reset it. it. If I were to share the file and someone were to find out about it, that would be a bad thing.
I would love to share it, but I don't want to take the personal risk.

pidsw said:
I appologize for the delay.
I work at microsoft and it turns out that my name and employee info is in there in various places (I have to key in to get a build and it modifies various bits so that if I "loose" the phone, they know how to remotely wipe + hard reset it. it. If I were to share the file and someone were to find out about it, that would be a bad thing.
I would love to share it, but I don't want to take the personal risk.
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"The Internet"...were 55 year old mans are 15 year old kids....and 9 year old's are FBI agents.....saying your from a company that your clearly not...priceless
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AT&T and Samsung website does not release "firmware updates" to the public. These updates are released strictly to Service Providers
Please help me download new firmware for I907. Im not user AT&T Service
Thanks.

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Actually the dump from the Epix that is available is cook-able
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I have an i907 and want to cook a basic ROM for it. My goal for a first ROM is to remove some of the AT&T crapware, add the new notification style (à la showthread.php?t=513924), and flash it back. I'll share any working ROMs here.
Heads up: this is my first attempt at cooking anything for WM so please bear with me. However, I've been reading the forums and I think I have a reasonable understanding of the process of cooking.
If someone can help me with a few questions to get me started, that would be greatly appreciated. Once I get going, I should be able to learn the rest on my own; I promise not to post 1000 annoying noob questions at every step of the way.
+ inertiax3, which kitchen tools work with the Epix? I read some speculation that the i780 kit could work. Can a resulting ROM be flashed to the Epix?
+ Should I use the ROM dump from this forum or would it be better to dump my own?
+ Do I need to flash any special loaders/etc before I can flash a cooked ROM?
Thanks loads! I really hope that we Epix users can finally have custom ROMs.

THANK YOU! Happy to help out however I can. I don't know anything about ROM cooking, but I know the Epix pretty well and am really glad to see someone taking this on!
pap3rw8 said:
I have an i907 and want to cook a basic ROM for it. My goal for a first ROM is to remove some of the AT&T crapware, add the new notification style (à la showthread.php?t=513924), and flash it back. I'll share any working ROMs here.
Heads up: this is my first attempt at cooking anything for WM so please bear with me. However, I've been reading the forums and I think I have a reasonable understanding of the process of cooking.
If someone can help me with a few questions to get me started, that would be greatly appreciated. Once I get going, I should be able to learn the rest on my own; I promise not to post 1000 annoying noob questions at every step of the way.
+ inertiax3, which kitchen tools work with the Epix? I read some speculation that the i780 kit could work. Can a resulting ROM be flashed to the Epix?
+ Should I use the ROM dump from this forum or would it be better to dump my own?
+ Do I need to flash any special loaders/etc before I can flash a cooked ROM?
Thanks loads! I really hope that we Epix users can finally have custom ROMs.
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pap3rw8 said:
I have an i907 and want to cook a basic ROM for it. My goal for a first ROM is to remove some of the AT&T crapware, add the new notification style (à la showthread.php?t=513924), and flash it back. I'll share any working ROMs here.
Heads up: this is my first attempt at cooking anything for WM so please bear with me. However, I've been reading the forums and I think I have a reasonable understanding of the process of cooking.
If someone can help me with a few questions to get me started, that would be greatly appreciated. Once I get going, I should be able to learn the rest on my own; I promise not to post 1000 annoying noob questions at every step of the way.
+ inertiax3, which kitchen tools work with the Epix? I read some speculation that the i780 kit could work. Can a resulting ROM be flashed to the Epix?
+ Should I use the ROM dump from this forum or would it be better to dump my own?
+ Do I need to flash any special loaders/etc before I can flash a cooked ROM?
Thanks loads! I really hope that we Epix users can finally have custom ROMs.
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EFN's tools should work pretty well..
It's up to you if you wish to use the already available dump or create your own, the latter would be especially useful if your device shipped with a newer release. To cook a ROM you also need the XIP from your device and I think the dump someone posted doesen't include this
No, you don't need to flash anything, but make sure you device can enter the BOOTLOADER mode and has a HARD RESET key combo

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Sick of Searching-Want offical wm6 AT&T ROM for 8125

I have searched mutiple ways. I have found just about every baked, half baked, dumped and changed wm6 ROM's out there. I have seen posts saying that what they had was the official wm6 AT&T ROM *but they had removed this or that.
I WOULd LIKE PURE!!!! Put plain and simply, the exact same OEM WM6 AT&T ROM that I would get if I bought a new device from my local AT&T store without have to buy a new device.
I have a Cingular (AT&T) 8125.
What I am NOT looking for in posts back:
Suggestions telling me to "stick it".
Telling me to search harder. (I have. And I have used google)
Someone telling me to go buy a new device.
Suggestion to try someone's half baked or modified ROM.
Just the original, unmodified or tarnished by what someone thinks is best.
Thanks,
Curious George
There's no such thing as an official wm6 ROM for the wizard from AT&T or any other carrier. If there was, you could download it directly from the AT&T website or the HTC website.
As for the "half baked" ROM's you can find in the wizard section, they were based on leaked versions that came from micrsoft and each had a whole lot of bugs in them that a lot of people here spent a a whole lot of time working out. If you don't want to use them, then don't, but don't go bad mouthing the work that so many people donated their time and effort to give to you free of charge.
They didn't GIVE me anything because I did NOT accept it. Half baked refers to those ROMS that people customize to their specific needs but make no sense to a general user. Removing important items and filling them up with unimportant trash. My first post was a tongue and cheek remark of not suggesting those. I don't need a principal or admonishment here.
Thanks,
what you DO need is to WAKE UP and crawl out of that box labeled "OFFICIAL".
(isn't the "OFFICIAL ROM" what "someone" THINKS is best?)
If you don't like the wm6 roms available, then get a vanilla rom and cook your own. That way it will have just what YOU want.
BTW they HAD to remove stuff from the leaked WM6 to make the rom fit the Wizards memory, also, if you didn't accept the cooked roms then how do you know they're half baked?
Since there ISN'T an official WM6 rom for the Wizard, your options (short of buying a new device) are:
Continue to use WM5 (official or not)
use an "unofficial" WM6 rom
cook your own WM5 rom
cook your own WM6 rom <- Best Option IMHO
I just doesn't make any sense to rant and rave about the useless stuff in other peoples roms when all the tools, packages, tutorials, and kitchens are available for you to make a custom rom to suit your specific needs.
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They didn't GIVE me anything because I did NOT accept it. Half baked refers to those ROMS that people customize to their specific needs but make no sense to a general user. Removing important items and filling them up with unimportant trash. My first post was a tongue and cheek remark of not suggesting those. I don't need a principal or admonishment here.
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hi curious george
I think you missunderstand the whole thing about cooking roms. and what an Offical rom is. these cooked roms are all made by people that have spesific needs and an official wm6 from AT&T would also contain alot of junk that you might never need.
It's the same with OEM pc's when you buy a HP or A Dell you will get the basic OS + what HP or Dell think you would also need.
so an offical AT&T rom would not have the same apps as an offical O2 or a offical HTC rom.. but they would all still be offical roms but by 3 differant companies.
and romcookers do the job (for free) that AT&T,O2 and HTC would need to hire people to do for money.

WM 6.1 port?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1861878&postcount=76 promised to be out this weekend for the Kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363050 theres the thread
whos gonna make us a Sprint touch 6.1 ROM!!!
I have a feeling that some of the communities best folks are working hard on this acheivement. I'm guessing that we will see 6.1 on the Hermes first because the likeness of the phone in Asia that has 6.1.
I would love to see WM6.1 ported for the touch.
well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think
klmsu19 said:
well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think
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It certainly sounds like a "Super ROM" but then again you have to take into consideration that building, testing, and perfecting something like this is going to take time. If this is actually done, the initial release is going to have bugs like a cockroach infested house.
i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad
i would love to try it
riironman said:
i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad
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I have the cab files for the palm threaded sms on my laptop at home and can upload that i have a feeling you already have it.
yes i have it. thank you...just the same problem with the keypad covering the words. i dont like the spb full keyboard option either. but if the 6.1 is set up like the native sms and the keyboard doesnt block what i am typing that would be perfect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now
klmsu19 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now
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yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait
I have the OS but I need help isn trying to get this on our phone, if someone can help that would be great
you cannot just grab the kaiser release and make it for vogue
There are many methods people use to protect rom releases from being used in cooking. delete dsm files, delete rgu files, screw up packages.sof, etc. You can be sure that the upcoming WM6.1 releases will not nicely reconstruct for others to modify. The lucky few with a 6.1 source at this time have to protect it.
I personally will not sift thru this and that wm6.1 rom and fight to reconstruct a base. I intend to use WM6.1 on the vogue and titan, but not until I obtain it from an officially released carrier rom.
I see DCD1182.......so when are they talking about sending it out then?
codyppc said:
yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait
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i definetly agree
wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even
klmsu19 said:
wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even
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I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?
Tenny said:
I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?
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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...
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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...
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But Radios & Bootloaders are not in OS (only) Rom Updates (which I thought is what we were talking about?).
it ports really easy, i was talking about waiting for a source for final code. but yes the beta posted can be ported to a cdma device just as easy as gsm.
DCD,
can we try????? lets give us something since the Titan has just gotten a new rom, i would like to do this on my touch is there any instructions on how

Tmobile Shadow / HTC Juno - please help

I am thinking of buying the TMobile Shadow unlocked. Are there any mods available for the shadow?
I want to get rid of the Tmobile icons and customization, probably remove bloat and make it a baseline WinMo6 install, is this possible?
Any ROMs?
Any suggestions, I didnt find anything on the HTC Shadow/Juno.
Appreciate any help.
J
Ditto ...
Been hoping for the same thing. I have an extracted os.nb file, but I don't have the time to hack and would rather leave that to the experts in here. If anyone out there reads this and can build a stripped ROM for the T-Mobile Shadow, post a reply and let me know. I have a solid plan for a "vanilla" rom.
I just received my unlocked TMO Shadow, and all the reading that I have done indicates that TMO has simply placed their branding on the NEO interface.
My best source of info has come from http://www.freddyreyes.com/
The site has all kinds of how to's for modding the interface to suit your taste. Like the old days with the Moto MPX220......I can see many sleepless nights getting it just right
Ok........full day of mods done..........manually removed most of the Tmobile bloatware. Took the posts, along with a few on Howard Forums and learned how to manually modify the NEO interface at the registry level (really quite simple once you know where to look).
Customized the interface with various appropriate icons, and then I have backed it all up with Spritebackup.
.........this is usually the time where some rom cooker comes in and provides the latest version of windows mobile ...... 6.1.......and makes all my work worthless.
So who is gonna step up to the plate and cook us up a 6.1 rom to try ???
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So who is gonna step up to the plate and cook us up a 6.1 rom to try ???
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I'm curious as to see how the OEMs incorporate their today screens w/the advanced screen of WM 6.1. It seems like its either you have the WM6.1 today screen OR you have the Neo today screen.

Best WM6 ROM to upgrade to for someone who NEED IDEAS!! but is open to ALL opinion

Simple question I want all opinions, I just got my 2nd 8525, and this time I am gonna do it RIGHT!! (last 1 i had I was super n00b and kiled it within 48hrs I cried for a week) Anyways I just want the simplest answer or opinion I want my 8525 to last forever. SO I will flash it to the BEST WM6 ROM once and never again will I change it.
SO I am looking for just the BEST GENERAL OVERALL WM6 ROM, I am just gonna be using it as phone and only use the WiFI to connect to the NET, so the ROM I am looking for needs to be STABLE and needs to NOT ruin me or my 8525, I have been reading everyones SIGs to see what ROMs ya'll use, but I just WANT the Opinions of the regulars here
WHAT Windows Mobile 6 ROM should I upgrade to?? I will take ALL suggestions PLEASE help me, I dont wanna kill my 8525 again, I just want to flash it and leave it at that!!
THANK YOU EVERYONE
P.S I'm not a complete n00b if u read the whole thread you'll see I do my homework
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
XtreMe_G said:
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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doubt he understands... =)
follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
and get Farias/Dr Puttinghams R32
enjoy ..
Remember follow the steps
HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
You will find it and visit
wiki.xda-developers.com
Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework, I have read the wiki over and over, and I already have DONE the HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro).
Once you've got HardSPL on, it's up to you really. Some are good and some are...flaky, to be polite.
I would start with the official one from your carrier and use that for a day or two so you have a good, hopefully stable, benchmark to measure the competition up against.
Bang all your apps on it and see how it runs then try the same thing on the cooked ones.
Smiffy.
I Phrased my Subject of the Thread and my actual question WRONG, I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want, be I want the opinions of you guys, the ones that call me a n00b, I value your opinion, I did my homework, I just want to flash my 8525 ONCE to a WM6 ROM that will last me the life of the phone. Heres what I like 1. theme skins 2. stability 3. good wifi 4. and I guess I want no bloatware so it will be a FAST ROM
So basically I just want to know what you guys (the experts) can suggest to me. Just want 1 ROM that will enable me to use my 8525 to the best of its capabilities!!
thank you
nicknowsky
i have used the offical ROM on my last 8525, and thats the one that got me i n troube and killed my 1st 8525
if u read the post above I gave a description of what i am looking for, or you know what I would like to know What The Most Popular WM6 ROM Is?? (no 6.1)
this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework
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I wasn't particularly mentioning you, just noobs in general. Not offence intended
As for a particular ROM. As you mentioned
I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want
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its hard to pick a ROM for you. Generally you can't go wrong with Farias/Dr Puttinghams/schaps to name a few. As for applications, be careful not to overload your phone with .cab's as this will slow it down.
There are a number of ROM's out there which are stripped of applications and built more for speed (though right now I'm having a complete blond moment and can't remeber one of them....doh!!!), and from there you can add to your own personal preferences.
Hey SPARTAN, I noticed u are using WM6.1, but before that what ROM did you use, and better yet what was the ROM that you used the absolute LONGEST??? or what is your personal favorite??
I'm a bit of a ROM freak, as I never keep the same ROM for any real length of time. Think I've used pretty much everything with little tweaks here and there.
Mostly used Schaps, as he tends to provide very stable ROM’s and eagerly awaiting Schaps 6.1 full version, but currently using Faria-R32 / Dr Puttingham WM6.1
Well I am close to going thru with the ROM flash, I just did my weekly REINSTALL of my operating system (been using XP lately) and I just installed the necessary drivers and programs to keep my computer from messing up or having ANY sort of error while the flash process is going on, just the very basics installed, thats really what the cause of death was for my first AT&T 8525(HERMES100) I got sloppy and was then a n00b, did a real n00bish thing and KILLED my 1st 8525. The funny thing with that was I had it for only 48hrs, and I cried for a week after. I still have it, might send it to HTC USA for repair.
But getting back to the todays upgrade, I am still in the process of deciding what ROM I will install, so I gotta ask are there ANY last recommendations on which WM6 ROM I should use?? I just wanna hear any and all last opinions
1st : Shamanix Ultimate v2 Final and 2nd : Kinokin WM6 Final.
I'm valuing ALL opinions
I know, I know this getting annoying and I keep asking dumb questions but I wanna decide, so here is the question
Which is better and/or more stable Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 or 4.01???
and how good is Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31 cause I am almost leaning towards 4.31, but I like I have said before I want stability and something thats gonna keep my 8525 running longest and strongest
This is gonna be it NO more stupidity coming from ME, I just want last opinions on Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 - 4.01 and 4.31
and THANK YOU everyone who took the time to help me, I know members like me get annoying, but I do my homework, I just wanted a little help
THANKS
Opinions, eh? I'm opinionated AND drunk...
Here's mine: go with 6.0 instead of 6.1.
People experienced in dealing with little niggles and issues by altering registry entries or installing lots of small cabs get on fine with 6.1, depending on which ROM of course. If you're new to upgrading then the issues that have yet to ironed out of 6.1 in such as a way as to make it a simple 1-click-to-install-and-you're-done job will probably annoy you too much. Smiffy's advice was really good mate: start with a ROM you can rely on, which basically means your own carrier's. If they haven't produced a WM6 yet (mine, OrangeUK, haven't and probably won't as they do lag rather badly in that area) then go for the most basic, cut-down and reportedly stable 6.0.
After you've got used to using your carrier's mobile you'll notice when the phone's faster or not when using different things on a new ROM. Only move up to 6.1 when you're well-used to how your phone fares with 6.0. (I'm assuming you won't install any benchmarking software. Not calling you lazy as I don't either - I just judge the 'feel' of it.)
I heartily recommend using mattk_r's Pandora Naked 6.0 - it's stable as any ROM I've ever used, including official ROMs. Give me a minute, I'l fetch the link.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1731669
I use a ROM based on the kitchen with a lot of my own kit thrown in. But I didn't start out like that; I started out like you, needing a few pointers, doing a lot of reading and occasionally annoying the hell out of myself.
By the way, if you're not using an SDHC card (which I assume you're not from the sounds of things) do me a favour and stick a copy of the original carrier's ROM on your SD card after renaming it HERIMG.nbh. Should you do a ChunkyMonkey Special and temporarily brick your phone (I used to do it all the time mate) it's an easy out in many cases, even if you can't boot past your bootloader.
(But take the SD card out when you flash your ROM. Although that's good practice anyway, so just do it.. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917&highlight=ultimate
As you can see (if you checked!) Ultimate is based on Schaps 4.31 ROM and more refined.
I'd go for LVSW.
Seriously man, you're asking the impossible. If you've read the forum so throroughly as you've claimed, you'd know that once you start, you'll not stop. Each of the ROMs, whilst good in their own way, has some kind o prolems with it that will make you change it for something else.
For example - Schaps 4.31 - an excellent rom but you have to install a fix for button 5 plus a couple of other gripes. Nothing major but enough to make me eventually keep looking once something different comes along.
You're not going to find the "one" rom.
The only place you'll find the one is in the matrix. Flashing is like the red pill. You're free of restraint but it comes at a cost.
I know I am asking for a "DREAM" I really just wanted opinions of what would be a GOOD, solid WM6 ROM, cause I am gonna flash it ONCE to the ROM I pick and that s IT, not more flashing or trying out new ROMs and this or that.
Put it this way IF you all had to CHOOSE just 1 WM6 ROM to flash and the fate of the world was riding on your choice of ROM, it had to be stable and save humanity, What ROM would that be??
thats the kinda opinions I want to help me make my choice

Install Tilt WinMob 6.1 on 8525 what if?

What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
nismo00 said:
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.
well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.
You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know
GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye
nismo00 said:
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!
Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!
Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
nismo00 said:
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.
I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....
Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!
Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...

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