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Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?
i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben
When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)
@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.
MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it
Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)
Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..
Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.
Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.
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Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.
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CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!
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CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)
SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.
Hi
I haven't found anyone else in TP2 forums report this problem I have on reboot, but can anyone help? After inputting my PIN, a screen comes up stating "We're Sorry... A problem has occurred with services.exe" and it asks if I want to send a report to Microsoft, but if I click either "send" or "don't send", it then appears to function normally.
I, too, have this problem, but hesitated to bring it up here because my assumption was that it must have something to do with a tweak I have done or some software I have installed (and then subsequently uninstalled?). As such, the parameters are too broad (I would have thought) to be able to determine why this is happening. Are you also working with an AT&T Tilt2, stock ROM?
I too have this problem, if it occurs overnight, my alarm will not go off, and it get stuck on the time that it happens until i click ok. kinda sucks
I had it - tech support (AT&T) exchanged the phone
I had it - tech support (AT&T) exchanged the phone
It was within the first thirty days
my 30 days is up
Also got it with my TP2. Dutch stock rom windows mobile 6.5
Also getting the error after a restart sometimes, or randomly in wimo 6.5. Never had it until my wimo ran out of power when playing a game... It shutted off on it's own. Now i randomly get that error so once in awhile. I even did a hard reset, but still getting it sometimes. But not always after restarting...
Bit strange... Don't notice anything not working though. Everything seems to be working fine... Is there a way to disable error reports in wimo?
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... I even did a hard reset, but still getting it sometimes ...
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Wow, thanks for the info -- I was actually considering a hard reset because of this -- you've saved me the trouble!
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...Are you also working with an AT&T Tilt2, stock ROM?
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I have stock HTC 6.5 ROM (WWE). It's not a major problem and only occurs if I reboot - luckily it does not happen randomly for me or when unlocking or switching the phone transmitter off and then on again.
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It's not a major problem and only occurs if I reboot.
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Now, on reboots I'm also getting an error message about gwes.exe -- comes right after the one about services.exe.
I get it too. Stock Rom with plenty of apps and stuff added.
Me Too
I started having this and other errors after installing Hou Ming's fexploreext205. I had just started to look for a replacement when I ran across this thread.
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I started having this and other errors after installing Hou Ming's fexploreext205. I had just started to look for a replacement when I ran across this thread.
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Darn, I don't have this app installed, but this line of investigation may yet yield results. I'm going to try to see if I can figure out the history of my installs (good luck!).
OK, I bit the proverbial bullet and did a hard reset. It's taken me a couple of days but I've got all the software re-installed (with a soft reset after each install! -- more or less) and so far so good: no service.exe (or any other) errors. Let's just hope there isn't some periodic thing that will trigger the error down the road.
I just downloaded and upgraded my Touch Pro2 now to the WM6.5 for GCC and Egypt. However, anytime i do a soft reset i get the following error message:
A problem has occurred with services.exe
And then the blah-blah about telling Microsoft about this problem.
This doesn't happen however if i shutdown and the restart the Touch Pro 2.
I have done a hard reboot and still i get this error. I have posted this on HTC support site. Let's see what they say.
Now appears cured!
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I have posted this on HTC support site. Let's see what they say.
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For some reason I now don't get it. I have no idea why as I haven't been trying to solve it specifically and have not hard reset!
@azuka: Please let us know what HTC say.
i also have this problem..
using stock 6.5 WWE SEA rom
happened after installing some programs..
however doesn't seem to affect or give any problems after
clicking don't send or send ..
would love to know why this occurs tho..
thx
Same thing happened to me. I have the new leaked t-mobile 6.5.
I did the hard reset and it happened to me again after i installed a few programs so i decided to reflash the with the t-mobile rom again and thank God it hasn't happened since the morning. i have been installing the programs one by one with a soft reset right after every new install trying to recreate the problem but it hasn't happen..
i hope it stays that way.
I have the original HTC rom (ITALIAN) and I have this problem if i deactivate Manila and i activate Titanium interface. I think there is some program that try to "talk" with manila during boot.
Now I enabled Manila again and it works like a charm.. (But I miss Titanium interface.. )
HTC simply asked me to download the WM6.5 upgrade again and reinstall. This i did and surprisingly i have not received that error again. 3days+ now and still counting.
Hay there,
a week a go i rooted my phone with the r5 root using the guide at theunlockr.
now it seems that i have som difficulties with calling and people calling me ( might be sms also)
Sometimes when i call someone it goes for around a sec ( cant even hear the *biiiip* sound.) and then the phone spits out a tiny *pip* just like someone is hanging up on you. I know that the person doesnt hang up. ive tested it with 2 phones.
other times it says that the number i am calling is not in use.
does anyone else have the same problems ?
How can i totally reset my phone to default ? Will there be a warranty problem if i send it in ? since software change is in the picture.
if you guys needs more info just ask
Mvh Locked
Locked65 said:
Hay there,
a week a go i rooted my phone with the r5 root using the guide at theunlockr.
now it seems that i have som difficulties with calling and people calling me ( might be sms also)
Sometimes when i call someone it goes for around a sec ( cant even hear the *biiiip* sound.) and then the phone spits out a tiny *pip* just like someone is hanging up on you. I know that the person doesnt hang up. ive tested it with 2 phones.
other times it says that the number i am calling is not in use.
does anyone else have the same problems ?
How can i totally reset my phone to default ? Will there be a warranty problem if i send it in ? since software change is in the picture.
if you guys needs more info just ask
Mvh Locked
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You've posted in the wrong sub forum. Go HERE and you should get the help you need. As far as i can work out if you go to the thread in there with the Generic official roms (Its one of the stickied threads) and pick the one your phone came with and use that it will put it back to as it came and unrooted, and so should be good for warranty.
One other thing. Are you sure its not a network or sim card problem problem?
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You've posted in the wrong sub forum. Go HERE and you should get the help you need. As far as i can work out if you go to the thread in there with the Generic official roms (Its one of the stickied threads) and pick the one your phone came with and use that it will put it back to as it came and unrooted, and so should be good for warranty.
One other thing. Are you sure its not a network or sim card problem problem?
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he is in the right subforum, this has nothing to do with android development
Sorry for wrong section, can anyone move it for me please ?
not 100% sure its sim/phone operating network problem. But almost.
edit: i also forgot to tell you that htc sync is also failing me
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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What version of TP2 -- e.g, T-Mo USA, Verizon, World-Wide/Euro -- do you have?
irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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The things that you mention are not hardware problems but software. So they can be solved by flashing a new rom. I suggest you read the how to flash for noobs thread.
Try a valkyre rom and read the last pages of that thread to see if there are issues etc
A new ROM may very well help sort out your problems, but the excessive problems you have been having make one wonder if there is not some other issue. So before you go to flashing a new rom, it might be a good idea to do some troubleshooting first to try and narrow down the problem.
First, a few questions:
1)What UI are you using? (i.e., Touchflow 3d, Sense, SPB Mobile Shell, Titanium, Classic today?)
2) What programs are you installing?
3) Are you doing any registry edits? Or using custom programs that do registry edits for you? (Things like configuration tools that you installed)
While answering the questions may shed some light on why you are having problems, here is the first thing I would try that could help narrow down the issue:
1) Dissable any custom UIs (start -> settings -> today -> items tab -> select Windows default -> hit OK) then soft reset your phone. Use it for a day and see if any of the problems go away, then report back.
I've got some other ideas, but will hold out on those until looking at your responses to the others above... good luck.
Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?
Have you tried yet dissabling sense and running for a day to see if there are any improvements? If that doesn't work, I would move on to a hard reset, then disable Sense, and see if it is better. If it was, I would re-enable sense and dissable the email and sms tabs and see....
Meanwhile, I would also be reading the newbie guide to flashing new roms... as it is really odd to be seeing these sorts of problems with nothing installed on the phone.
I am correct that you haven't installed the facebook and personal assistant programs since your last hard reset? I only ask because the product description for the personal assistant looks like it is somewhat invasive into your phone (i.e., it can track minute use and such) and could possibly be the culprit for some or even most of your issues...
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Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?
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ur previous statement says your a mac guy. what a re you doing with a windows phone? thats just a recipe for disaster.....
try flashing to an NRG rom. I personally have been using cookie energy for months and never had any problems. this may be a lil too complicated for a "mac" user tho.
Well, I thought I'd let you guys know, my defy went to the official motorola service, now, before someone starts posting "room full of people who cares" pics, I'll tell you what where it's symptoms and maybe you can tell me if any had any similar issues.
A little background:
I'm in Argentina, and I got my defy from "Personal" ( that's the carrier) which has a 2.2.1 rom ( if I'm not wrong )
I used it for a bit and it was working so well that I didn't feel the need to mess with it.
Then, I started missing some stuff and I decided to install CM7 (rc1, v2), to see how it performed.
All good, for a while, but then, the following started happening:
- 5~8 times out of ten, sms's wouldn't go out ( and I had to re-send them until they did )
- I got delays on getting messages, and on other people receiving them.
- Sometimes I wouldn't get to answer a call, just got a "missed call notification SMS"
- Sometimes calls would drop when answering them
- FM radio started being CRAP, and getting either stuck on, or wouldn't turn on after being interrupted by other notifications.
- frecuent freezing .
I guessed it was CM7, so, deceided to get back to stock, and maybe rooting, just for kicks.
I went back to stock, but the problems kept happening.
And that's why I sent it to service.
Anyone got any similar issues?
I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?
This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.
davenaughty said:
I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?
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lol, of course I did wipe, I didn't got into GREAT detail of everything i did because it would be WAY to boring, but, I did tried a lot of stuff before sending it back.
I kind of know my way around android, but I don't blame you for asking, I've seen a lot of uninformed posts around here ( nothing wrong with that, not everyone has time, the patience, or the interest to spend HOURS figuring stuff out, and learning about android )
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This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.
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Yup, I also thought it could be either a SEVERE overage problem ( like a signal black hole in my apartment) , or a defective sim card , but I'm using my old HTC G1 for now, and it's working great, so, both of those are out.
Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)
davenaughty said:
Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)
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If the baseband was incorrect, it wouldn't get signal at all.
Plus, the phone was bought in argentina, so the argentina stock rom for the carrier HAS the right baseband, and I still got issues.
I have no other explanation for it than faulty hardware.
Thanks, though, I know you're trying to help ; )