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After flashing some of the recent roms here on XDA, I seem to be having a bit of a problem.
After installing some programs,the program icons change in to windows logos and i'm unable to use them and my phone locks up instantly and only a hard reset will work.
If i do a soft reset i only get to the windows mobile screen or htc startup animation screen, then it freezes.
I have been flashing roms for a couple of years and have never had this problem,any help would be appreciated.
owz206 said:
After flashing some of the recent roms here on XDA, I seem to be having a bit of a problem.
After installing some programs,the program icons change in to windows logos and i'm unable to use them and my phone locks up instantly and only a hard reset will work.
If i do a soft reset i only get to the windows mobile screen or htc startup animation screen, then it freezes.
I have been flashing roms for a couple of years and have never had this problem,any help would be appreciated.
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There's not alot we can tell you if you don't tell us about your device, rom, radio, hardspl etc setup.
I'm using C.T 6.4 original touchflo but have tried others. I have olinex 1.40 spl
and have a DIAM 100 model and radio 1.00.25.05
Try another ROM.............there is that freak of nature possiblity that the Hard SPL is incompatible (rare).
If another Rom persists, then move to Hard Spl 1.93. I know some Chefs recommend a specific Hard Spl at times but again it's rare.
Can i just flash 1.93 spl over 1.40 spl, or is there a different way of doing it.
*Edit* I just tried to install 1.93 spl and it didnt work it still says i have 1.40 spl,what am i doing wrong ?
These Hard SPL developer's edition has write protection. What you need is an APP called Jump SPL....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3328000#post3328000.....POST #10
I'm using CT 6.4 OrigTF Full with HSPL 1.93 with absolutely no problems (apart from a landscape bug that I solved by installing the original Diamond Volume Control). I highly recommend it, for me it's the best I've ever used in terms of speed, stability and functionality. Remember to Hard-reset after flash. You migh also have a bad flash or a bad download. If changing HSPL don't work, try to download the ROM again and re-flash.
When I upgraded HSPL from 1.40 to 1.93 I used a version with jump-SPL included, don't remember where I found it though.
Good Luck!
I always do a hard reset after a flash and have tried numerous roms but seem to have the same problem with all the roms.
Think i might have a problem with my diamond
Thanks for all your suggestions.
hello. I have a problem. I wanted to put new rom on friend`s Diamond but when it finishes, it says error 270, the image file is corrupted.On Diamond:Upgrade rom code error, please try again.What can I do now?I made soft reset and repeated again, nothing changes.I cannot even turn off the device.It only shows tricolor,security unlocked.(RUU Diamind HTC WWE 2.03.405.2 Radio signed diamond 52.51.25.26.1.09.25.23 ship.exe (100MB))
I am ok.Made it with a different rom.
O.k. I've tried a few different roms and hard spl today, and deleted my internal and phone storage and my phone is still not working properly.
It works fine after a flash and hard reset, but as soon as i turn it off then back on it freezes either on the diamond black boot screen or windows boot screen.
Looks like I need to get a new phone
Don't know if this is of any help but, when i cooked some roms for my "Artemis" i would get this sort of error if the rom was a little too big (I had added too many programs <5mb too much it would build and flash without error) it would work for a few days the slowly start to loose programs as if it had a virus or something deleting stuff slowly.
the only way to fix it was to flash a stock rom inc ipl,spl and radio then re-flash a custom rom, (a new custom rom alone would not cure it) i think the rom when flashing filled the area designated for the rom then started to overright the spl or ipl
just a thought? i don't know weather the diamond would suffer from the same problem with a bloated rom!
dose anyone know what the max size for a diamond rom is?
what happens if the rom is a little too big say 2mb?
Thanks,I've just flashed the new windows 6.5 rom which is working at the moment,but if it fails i'll give your idea a try.
owz206 said:
Thanks,I've just flashed the new windows 6.5 rom which is working at the moment,but if it fails i'll give your idea a try.
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Man i had almost the similar issue in the recent times .. The only work around is to download and flash a stock Rom ( no matter which one it is ) , like what explained in the previous post . Use the stock fr a day or 2 , then flash it back .
I've read lots of comments, these very unwanted random hard-resets are suppose to be a common bug, however the suggested fixes dont seem to work for me, anyone else having the same issue?
Note: The issue must be software related, it only started happening to me immediately after a ROM update a few months back.
What usually happens:
- Install a ROM -> Configure It -> Install Apps... all looks good
- At some random point (could be days or weeks) the phone will lock up (usually on the password screen)
- A soft reset is required to rectify the lock-up
(i.e. the red button on back of phone)
- Phone hard-resets itself
Suggested Solutions:
1) Upgrade to HardSPL 1.93 - made no difference
2) I have tried running MTTY a few times, also no difference
3) Try different ROM's, I thought it might be just a bug with the WWE ROM, but it happens with the Energy ROM too
Just out of interest:
Interestingly, my wifes phone, which I do exactly the same updates on (same phone, same ROM, same Radio, etc), is working completely fine...
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
businello2000 said:
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
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Hi, thanks for suggestion, although yep I tried that too. There is no stock ROM for an imported phone on Optus, but I just used the stock Telstra one that was on the forums, then after a while went back to the WWE ROM, and the same issue still occurs.
No other ideas for resolving the hard reset issues?
Next time it happens, I might try pulling the battery out instead of using the reset button on the back of the phone.. but clearly something is wrong :-/
i have had this a couple of times, about 6 months ago and last week. i just flashed a different ROM, flashing the same one again didnt help, so just downloaded a different one and went with that.
seems to be ok now
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
matrix77 said:
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
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Thanks again for suggestions so far, but above fix only lasted about 5 days before another intermittent phone crash & subsequent hard reset, much the same as I have had experimenting with a range of stock and other ROM's :-/
I don't think the fix is as simple as just putting a Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset. Im pretty sure its a software problem, but I dont see how the problem can survive such rigorous formatting...
Is noone else having the problem? Sounds like most are solved with 1 use of MTTY.
I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
The only solution is:
1st MTTY and run task 29 to format the device to make it clean and no left over stuff from the last ROM.
2nd Install different ROM
If you have bad sectors in the device, MTTY might not help much here, I guess.
Hi maddie, yes you might be onto something, I assume you already tried the usual fixes: (Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset)? You can tell it to format the NaviNAND during the hard reset.
I think my issue might be different to yours though, as mine does not happen 'when installing software' mine happens days/weeks after setting up the phone.. It usually goes down like this: I pull the phone out of my pocket -> its locked on the password screen usually (cant type) -> pull the battery out or press the soft-reset button -> bang.. phone hard-resets.
I will make 1 suggestion though, instead of using all the nice fancy mods, and SPB Mobile Shell (looks like sense ui), I went back to a boring old stock rom, and well after 1 month its still going.. I absolutely hate it, but I dont want to buy another phone quite yet, so gonna go old-skool.
Let me know how you go, and as above if you did all the standard suggestions? It sounds like you need to somehow instruct the phone not to use those bad memory spots, but ive no idea if such a tool exists im afraid.
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I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
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I got the same problem recently and I am still trying different way to solve it.
My Hard-reset happen:
After flashing new rom -> Installation of software ->
-> launching programs -> when some got may holding or loading without response
-> Soft-reset (red bottom) -> It automatically Hard-reset....
Similar thinking with you, I think that maybe one of those reasons leading the hard reset:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
kenleekwanho said:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
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I like this logic, im in the position of owning 2 HTC Diamonds with identical ROM, Radio, Applications, 1 works perfectly, 1 is resetting.
It 'probably' indicates that its hardware related, I doubt its Radio (due to the other phone working fine), so could be Internal Storage or Bad Sector.
Im not even close to filling up my internal storage though, so if its storage related, perhaps a particular sector is the problem (like maddie was mentioning).
Thanks for all your opinions!
It's the first time for me to think it's the Radio's problem. It comes to me now it seems this situation starts when I flashed the 1.15.25.14 radio. I will try another radio and update here.
I dont 'think' its Radio, but worth a shot.
I cant consistently reproduce my issue, so it could take me a month to find out if ive fixed the issue.. and there are a lot of variables in a month. But sounds like you have a way of reproducing it consistently, gl.
OK, it doesn't seem to work. I think that's it..
Maybe I should start looking at the bootloader commands..
ive got the same issue, but only with some ROMs, for example, the AZTOR X3 and GEN.Y D2 didnt work, but gen.y 1.4 worked for me.
I tried MTTY method to re-flashing, it seems fine to my diamond right now.
i have the same problem, i have tried about 10 different roms, but i don't think it's software related, i think it might be the phone overheating causing a faulty component, it started 2 days ago for me and usually after 5-10 min it crashes, and it started happening when the weather heated up and it will crash quicker if i try to charge it, anyone notice this?
Has anyone found a solution to this?
For me it started when I installed the Gen Y rom with the android dual booter (but not android itself). I have tried MTTY, Stock ROM but Im still experiencing the problem. I suspect it has something to do with the dual boot.
I get the same thing. soft reset = hard reset.
I have tried several ROMs but now the phone hangs on the loading screen
I cannot flash ANY of the recent EnergyROMS and a majority of the recent ROM's available, this sucks!!!
The older ROM's, of all types flash just fine. This problem started with the newer ROM's *Everything above 23016*.
Or any of the recent ROM's that include the latest manilla.
I ALWAYS get a flash error at 94 or 99% and I have tried everything.
Booting into the WIN7 mode allowing drivers that aren't signed and using the alternate drivers. I tried both HardSPL's. Numerous RADIO's...
Changed USB ports. Attempted to flash from an entirely different PC with WINXP and have ALL the exact same flash errors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even the official HTC ROM stops during flashing and resumes after an automatic restart. I guess they included some sort of special resuming feature with the latest official ROMS.
I have the phone functioning with the latest official ROM but I do NOT like feeling so restricted!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help!
Try flashing direct from the SD Card
Might be worth a try, if the PC flash isn't working.
I've had similar problems with Win 7 but the SD method has never failed me
It's possible your USB ports are faulty or the cable, try flashing via SD card as suggested.
Dave
Tried that as well with the same results...
Older ROMs flash and newer ones don't. I have also tried numerous cables and USB ports on two different pc's with WinXP and Win7
I cannot think of any logical reason for this. SD card flashing is not affected by your PC's OS.
Dave
Help?
Alright guys, I did quite a bit of research. Basically all roms before 6.5.1 flash just fine. But, only a very select few with 6.5.1 and the newest manilla, seem to flash with error. This is all just so odd.
You name it, I have tried it. On two pc's, and flashing from the microSD card, and yes I formatted the card to FAT32 first.
Flashing from the pc and microSD card always results precisely the same with every rom. This tells me that there is absolutely no doubt that it is, the phone itself...
I flashed the first version of HARDspl, both manual and automatic, and did the same with the latest version of hardspl. I have tried more combination's of roms and radios than I can even recall.
After some researching of the, flash error code 226, I read more than a few people stating that similar problems were the result of an inability to write to the Extended ROM in the phones flash memory. I guess its also called ExtROM.
This made sense to me because ALL of the rom flashes that fail, do so in the last 94-99%. This obviously tells me that the error is in the last bit of info attempting to be written to the device.
Basically I am stuck. No idea how to flash the newer roms, specifically the EnergyROMS.
Help?
im having a problem with the new energy roms as well. i flashed the nov. 8 21864 though my sd card. it flashed successfully but after it resets the tp2 logo shows and then a white screen with the numbers on the bottom that always pop up. the screen stays frozen there. any suggestions on what the problem might be
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im having a problem with the new energy roms as well. i flashed the nov. 8 21864 though my sd card. it flashed successfully but after it resets the tp2 logo shows and then a white screen with the numbers on the bottom that always pop up. the screen stays frozen there. any suggestions on what the problem might be
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Is the correct ROM flashed? Meaning, if you have a CDMA Device (RHOD400 & RHOD500), do you have a CDMA ROM flashed? Or a GSM ROM on a GSM device? I see people doing this a lot lately, and it sounds like the problem you have.
nope ive only flashed gsm roms for my gsm phone im gonna try to flash oct 28 and c wat happens
Recently acquired a used 8525 and have been checking out tons of custom ROMS but today my phone locked up and wouldn't do anything. I am flashed to 2.10 HardSPL and was running the stock "like" 6.5 ROM on the front page of the Hermes forum. Phone would start up but locked up at the first HTC splash screen. I tried resetting and removing the battery but it would hang at the same spot. I flashed to a different ROM and everything seems OK. The 6.5ROM ran fine for a few days when it was installed. Is it possible to damage the internal memory by flashing and reflashing constantly or is the issue more than likely a software problem?
You need to flash the at&t stripped rom between those custom roms. That will "straighten out" any odd memory issues like what your experiencing.
And I'm guessing it would take several thousand (or more) rewrites of the memory to mess it up. Probably similar to compact flash, or a thumb drive. Maybe one of the more knowledgeable ones around here know.
Thanks for the info. Do I simple flash the stripped AT&T rom from the bootloader and then do the same for the custom rom afterwards?
Yup! And it seems just flashing the at&t stripped rom seems to be fine, no need to let it go through setup and all of that. I generally wait for it to get to the "tap here" screen, then go into boot loader and reflash.
I'm having the same issue one my 8525.
I can't do ANYTHING because my phone is stuck saying smart mobility.
And, a black screen.
How do I....
Do I simple flash the stripped AT&T rom from the bootloader and then do the same for the custom rom afterwards?
I've downloaded your stripped AT&T room... now what? I dont know about bootloader
Ok. It looks like I finally have SOMETHING other than that screen.
I just did a hard reset.
Is there anything I should do BEFORE this happens again?
Install Hard SPL V7 if you get to the today screen... Go to here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
page 116, post 1160 to use the sd card method...
This should make it easier to recover your Hermes if something goes wrong.
Cheers...
SD card MUST be 2Gb or less and formatted FAT32. Check your spelling - hermimg.nbh...
I'm fully functioning now... I have installed HARD SPL before.. do I re do it?
Or, what?
all is working normal now
Nah, once it's there, there is no need to redo it. It will stick between flashings.
First, the story: Kaiser / leaky shower / drip drip drip / RIP!
My kaiser has gradually come back from the dead after drying on my desk for a month.
I can no longer flash anything except the stock 6.1 winmo rom. I've tried all methods: SD & USB both work for the said stock rom but nothing else.
My tricolor screen reads: KAIS130/ SPL 3.28.0000 / CPLD-8
I'd like to flash android back on this thing but I can't Any clue?
I have mtty access too if it helps. When I flash anything through usb or SD card, I'm stuck at 0% or on the "loading screen".
I've read many threads here but no solution works for me. I'm not excluding the idea that something may have fried permanently in this kaiser so I'm more looking for some troubleshooting directions, to make sure.
Water immersion can cause a lot of problems, not so much from the water itself, but rather the deposition of metal across leads and junctions caused by electrolysis of the solder used to join components to the pcb.
Provided the damage is not too widespread it is sometimes possible to revive the device, however it requires a complete disassembly and careful inspection of practically every component and connection on the mainboard, and the careful brushing clean of any 'furry' component terminations or leads.
I am surprised that it actually boots and is able to be flashed with WM.
If it is a stock SPL then you will need to HardSPL it anyway, since it will not allow you to flash anything other than stock otherwise.
Note that as far as I am aware, 3.28 is a stock spl, rather than HardSPL which is usually 2.29 or above.
Another thing, have you tried running android from SD? I know it is not quite the same, but if it works on SD, there is no reason for it not to be nand'able
This is actually the second time my Kaiser has been drowned in water (first time is now referred to as "the 2009 faulty Roman air-conditionning incident" and it took 6months for the Kaiser to recover) and full disassembly and cleaning helped A LOT in both cases (green stuff inside). I can now say that my Kaiser is water-proof At least it's built like a tank - except for the cheap breakable plastic shell.
I tried so many complicated solutions that I didn't even try android on SD I'll look into it tomorrow.
PS: Latest stock rom from Hong Kong can't be flashed ("not allowed"), only my French rom is flashable.
Provided you can flash something 6.1 you can run android from SD, and also should be able to HardSPL it to allow flashing of other roms, including the android nand boot nbh.
I think it's incredible that your kaiser has survived this twice, I'd take good care of it from now on, third time you may not be as fortunate
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First, the story: Kaiser / leaky shower / drip drip drip / RIP!
My kaiser has gradually come back from the dead after drying on my desk for a month.
I can no longer flash anything except the stock 6.1 winmo rom. I've tried all methods: SD & USB both work for the said stock rom but nothing else.
My tricolor screen reads: KAIS130/ SPL 3.28.0000 / CPLD-8
I'd like to flash android back on this thing but I can't Any clue?
I have mtty access too if it helps. When I flash anything through usb or SD card, I'm stuck at 0% or on the "loading screen".
I've read many threads here but no solution works for me. I'm not excluding the idea that something may have fried permanently in this kaiser so I'm more looking for some troubleshooting directions, to make sure.
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if you flased the 1.65 radio version i have heard people having issues with it. i think somewhere on this forum there are instructions to get a different version on which wil then reopen your ability to flash the custom roms.
Yes
ghghgh14702 said:
if you flased the 1.65 radio version i have heard people having issues with it. i think somewhere on this forum there are instructions to get a different version on which wil then reopen your ability to flash the custom roms.
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Radio could interrupt some things. But then again, with jumpspl or sspl (dont know which one is correct, the one with the froggy icon) makes you go into bootloader mode from ram if im correct. You should be able to hardspl then...
The radio version which does that is 1.65.17.10, which is not available from the Ultimate Radio Thread, for that very reason, it is only that particular radio, not the other radios in the 1.65 series that causes the problem.
I am using the 1.65 radio in my sig, and have flashed and reflashed many times, with no problems.
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The radio version which does that is 1.65.17.10, which is not available from the Ultimate Radio Thread, for that very reason, it is only that particular radio, not the other radios in the 1.65 series that causes the problem.
I am using the 1.65 radio in my sig, and have flashed and reflashed many times, with no problems.
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sorry, knew it was one of the 1.65, since he said he flashed an official rom if he has 1.65 it will be that version so I didn't look up the complete version as that was enough info for him.
I was too optimistic...The Kaiser recovered only for two days - I tried haret to load Android from SD, but it hung at some point.
Now there's a new error message, which also appeared after the first drowning: The sim door is open ... device will shut down in 10 secs. ZAP!
@MathijsNL
I'll have to look into your Froggy thing