Hello,
It seems this phone (eten x600) has it's internal memory corrupted by either bad blocks or something else. I can't write any rom to it because it gets corrupted and woun't boot properly.
I've heard of a way to run a bootloader level diagnostic with a special rom, or that there is a part in the end of a rom file that contains some test functions that I think are vital to the survival of my bricked device.
Here's something similar for another eten phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258605
Does anyone know of some way to enable this function or to make this sd card that can boot this test functions??
I think it's the only way i'll ever gonna revive my dead x600. This, or sending the device to eten for a 3 month trip (lol...) to the factory for repairs.
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Hi all,
My girlfriend has an XDA-II that - on a whim - decided to hard reset itself. (It has done this once before for me aswell.)
Most of the lost files are of no consequence because a backup is available. However, there is one Word document that we would like to recover that is not backed up. The device has not been used since the hard reset.
I presume that it is likely that the text contents of this Word file are likely to still be in tact somewhere in the RAM (i.e. the bytes are unlikely to have been overwritten just yet). I suppose then that it must be possible - at least theoretically - to obtain a dump of all the contents of the volatile RAM memory (perhaps writing out the contents of RAM to a PC hard drive in one dump).
With this resulting RAM dump I could then search it for words that we know are definitely in the file to obtain most of the text back again.
I was wondering if anyone knows of any program for the XDA-II (or PC) that will copy the ENTIRE contents of all device RAM - byte-for-byte - to the PC.
Failing this, can anyone suggest any way whatsoever to view/copy RAM contents byte-for-byte?
Many Thanks,
Rob
you can undelete media like hd's magnetic storage and flash
because they dont fill in 0's in the bits when they delete they just free up the storage and overwrite the data next time data is saved
ram however goes 100% blank when power is not supplied
so ram cant be undeleted and data cant be recovered from it
which is why newer devices with 2005 place data in flash and not in ram
so their device dont goes blank when a hardreset or dead batt happens
Thanks
Not the feedback I was hoping to get! But thankyou very much all the same for letting me know.
Cheers.
Rob
Would there be a way to modify the rom in order to keep the 4 digit pin and user information after a hard reset. My old hx2410 used the ipaq filestore for this and the hp protect tool.
I currently have a Qtek 9090 and would like a similar feature if possible...
Thanks in advance.
Florian
No there is no way. I would like to have the HP Protect Tools on my QTek 9100 too. But is there a way to extract the files from a rom?
Does a hard reset not clean out the rom and thus all its data.
So what do you want to protect as all the apps that you installed are gone as well as you contacts ect.
Am I missing something?
After a hard-reset the device is still locked with HP Protect Tools, so it's useless for the thiefs, they can't use the device!
Yes that's the reason I'd like the same feature...!
anyone know an security app that stores the password in a file that we could somehow modify the rom with ?
Anybody got access to a HP rom update file? We can try to take it apart.
V
Does this help????
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/HandheldiPAQ/us/download/22776.html
It looks like hp hasn't issued a ROM update for WM5 yet.
I still have my hx2410 - if you tell me how, I might be able to send you the rom
I had a hx2110 upgraded to WM5 but i sold it I'm currently loading the german WM5 upgrade for it (donkey).
iPaq PDA (not sure about hx series), have a bit of persistant memory that they used for data backup, incases where your battery goes dead and data lost. These persistant storage is so small that it is usually used to stored data/file, not programs. I'm wondering if a hardreset will wipe this persistant memory or not. If not, they might happily store the PIN number on this persistant storage.
As for the HTC series here, either you put your PIN number on your Ext ROM or burned it into your ROM itself, there doesn't seems to have other method of keeping any means of data that is able to survive a hardreset. E.g. would be the SMS-theft software that will send silently send SMS to a defined phone number in the case of theft, but this phone number is burned into the ROM itself.
I'm on WM2003 SE on my Qtek 9090. And yes I was thinking about some kind of program that would auto-install from the rom after a hard reset and be linked to a pin also on the rom if you see what I mean. But how to do that I have no idea...
While having a security tool like HP protect tools is great against theft, dont bother using the one from HP. I tried it a few months back on an IPAQ and it is a pretty useless software, just like MS Pocket Streets with GPS. Increases bootup time by three fold, slows down general use with filesystem encryption, locks up occasionally when phone call comes in. And YES, you can remove it with a hard reset, which I did after a week to remove it.
Now i have the ROMs:
http://home.teleos-web.de/vschildmann/GER-hx2000_WM5_Upgrade.exe
http://home.teleos-web.de/vschildmann/GER-hx2700_WM5_Upgrade.exe
The First is for hx2100 and hx2400. Maybe anyone can extract files of it and test it.
Hello,
Because my internal nand memory was corrupted, my device (eten x600) can't load the booter section of the rom. Because of the way the phone acts, i guess only the first sectors of the memory were corrupted (booter,ipl,knight, usbdl etc) If I reflash only the booter through usbdl the device will boot corectly one time (then the booter gets corrupted next time when powering on the device).
So untill i sort this out i have 2 possible solutions, as far is i see:
1.make this booter.bin file flash'able from sd card in bootloader mode (at least i wount depend on a computer to run usbdl.exe). As it is, the bootloader doesn't recognise it as a valid rom, because of the missing headers I supose...
2. modify the booter.bin in order to rearm itself, reactivate, relocate or something similar in order not to get corruped on restart, or rewrite itself on every restart. I have no ideea on how to do this or if it's possible in some way.
So, if any cooker or advanced user can help me, please try, i'll make this on myself if i'm pointed in the right direction, tools needed etc. What is possible and what not?
Also I would like to make this some sort of sticky on eten-users, when I have a plausible final solution, because it seems no one there knoks what to do with this corrupted memory problems.
Ok, so I've done some research, and I'm about 2 seconds from resigning myself to a hard-reset. I'm gonna see if you wizards can conjure me up some kind of miracle;
Here's the question: Is there any possible way to dump the contents of the filesystem without accessing Windows Mobile directly? Alternatively, is there any way to recover text messages after a hard-reset? The goal here is text-messages, anything else is bonus.
Here's the story in case any of it points to a recovery option;
I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1 on my Rhodium. I followed a guide to change the registry information for my default keyboard ( http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...r-as-windows-mobile-default-after-soft-reset/ ). Everything went fine, except I think I used the wrong identifier for which keyboard to use.
The phone wont boot, shows a black screen ( after the standard tmobile logo ), and after a few minutes suggests a hard-reboot with VOL+ ). I can access both the bootloader ( VOL- and Power ) and the Hard-Reset ( from the previously described and using [Answer]+[Hangup]+[Power] ).
I'm really looking for any kind of solution, any thrown bone. Here are the options I'm aware of;
1: Rip the phone apart and unsolder/read the memory directly ( apparently this will work, with a lot of time, and a useless phone after. Not an option )
2: Root the phone and access the filesystem directly ( I can't find any information specific to the rhodium on this, any links would be great )
3: Recover the messages after a hard-reset ( like I've seen on SD cards, but I don't know if you can do this on the built-in memory. Again, any information or links are appreciated )
4: Dump everything on the built in memory to my computer and sort it out later ( I don't care how long it would take me, even if I have to use a hex-editor to lovingly single out the messages' garbled contents. Would need to know how to make such a dump first ).
Yes, I know I need to make backups ( I have some, but not for a few months, and they were the important ones ).
Yes, I know people hate windows mobile and tell me I should switch to Android.
Yes, I know "hard-reset and forget" is an option. I'm not looking to avoid it, I just really, REALLY want to know if anyone has another option before I resort to that.
mtty
Ok, I've done more research;
Apparently you can use mtty.exe to connect to the phone and issue low-level commands. I'm aware of a task 29 ( format ) and task 8 ( reset ). Does anyone know if a reset just writes the image? If so, can I run task 8 without task 29?
success?
Through one way or another, I'm suffering the same problem and I'm trying to dump the memory. Did you have any success?
Sadly no, noone gave a crap.
Sorry about that. Seems like the bootloader that's installed by default is all-together MISSING that copy command. Maybe you can try installing a new loader, but I have no information for that.
*edit* Forgot what information was in this thread
There's a command that will do a ROM dump to the SD card so you can sift through the data manually. It's accessible through mtty if you have the right bootloader version, and the root password ( that's around someplace, let me know if you need it ). But like I said, mine was missing the command all together. Who knows, maybe you have a different version.
Also, you might be able to dump the rom through USB, but I think you need OS access to do it
My G4 818P went to a boot loop yesterday. Found that it's usual hardware problem for that model.
LG service is ready to replace motherboard for free.
But in that case I will lose all my data on internal storage, whereas I can still see and touch it.
What I found at the moment:
I can't use Recovery mode as the model still have locked bootloader
can boot in *Download mode*, and run `Send_Command.exe` (used in the rooting procedure for LG devices)
The last thing allows me to sent some unix-like commands to the phone body, I can see all the files on the Internal SD (/data/media/0), can even see their content in the console using `cat` command. The problem is that I can't copy them outside the phone. External SD can't be mounted. At least I don't know if `mount` command blaming since STDERR is not available.
In addition:
I found a @jacob019 version (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60557353&postcount=454) of `Send_Command.exe`, hoping to modify it to extract the data somehow;
Another option I found is eMMC Raw Tool, which works with download mode to copy phone partitions on many Qualcomm-based devices, but it doesn't see my phone.
Really appreciate any ideas or help!
Anyone?
Ready to pay for any help. Thank you!
go to a phone service? locally? they have more experience with this kind of stuff and can easily solve it.
Eventually, I found the solution for the problem.
I could download full internal memory by using a hardware module called Octopus (http://octopusbox.com/eng/news/details/572). I hired it in a phone service.
It creates an image file of whole the partitions on the phone. Later you can use it with R-Studio to get access to different partitions and files.
Hi @carmalius - I have hit a similar problem. My H818P has died and not able to boot. Could you please provide details as to how you were able to recover data.
Thanks a lot in advance....