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Hi, i have a simple chat style sms application i am using on my T-Mobile SDA and i would like to port it to T-Mobile DASH. What should be the Form size so that it would fit the DASH screen?
The screen on a Dash is 320x240 pixels large, and after the browser steals viewing space the user gets about 300x220ish or so in usable space. If you need to do specific testing simply PM me and I would be more than willing to help out and give screen shots on how things look. If you wish to work independently you might want to look into the Microsoft emulators which have been made by Microsoft so people can emulate smart phone devices for testing programs and sites for this exact purpose.
thanks for the quick reply I will try to create blank form and PM you ASAP. I have just bought my excalibur online and havent received it yet so i cant test it on an actual unit.
Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
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Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
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Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
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for the time being, ive created this to intercept all incoming sms so that they wont go to the inbox. But i can re-code it so that when a new sms arrives:
1. sms wont go to the existing inbox
2. sms will go to both the application AND inbox
it's not a perfect chat style application but it works well for me.
im still waiting for my DASH to arrive (ordered it from ebay) When i have ported it to DASH, ill post it here
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Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
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Thanks for the tip sir. I'll read about this. Im just a newbie programmer and can only create very very simple applications
I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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i refer to my application as "simple" compared to PALM's threaded sms because it only uses Textbox instead of XML. It doesnt use colored fonts to distinguish sent and received sms. But it does have other features like save chat window, group sending, sms sent counter, sms filtering, etc
Threaded SMS is great. I've been using the Palm threaded SMS app for months and would never dream of going back to non-threaded SMS. However, the other day I installed PocketCM contact manager and have been playing with it. It includes a threaded SMS feature, and I like it. I'm thinking about abandoning the palm app. However, there's positives and negatives of both.
This is a poll, so if you have experience with them both, please pick which SMS option you prefer. I also have a specific question which I'll ask at the end of this post, after talking about each of the threaded options I've mentioned here.
Palm Threaded SMS app:
Here's one of a few good threads on it.
Positives:
1. Works well and does everything you'd want it to do, including MMS
2. Backing up of your SMS messages is simple. Just backup the PalmMsgV001 file under the windows directory; it contains all messages.
Negatives:
1. Text input methods other than a hardware keyboard cover up what you're writing, so you have to write blind if you use the onscreen keyboard, transcriber, etc.
2. Some people claim problems with multiple messages being sent, but it seems that this is fixable by not closing the app just after sending a message (just minimize it.)
3. On one ROM I had a problem with missing messages sometimes, but this was fixed by always keeping the app running.
PocketCM:
This is the maker's website for this app, and here is a thread with a screenshot of the threaded sms using PocketCM (it's the one 3 over and 2 down with the yellow and blue text bubbles.)
This app does not replace the main SMS app. It works separately and functions mainly as a display for the SMS and allows you to compose new ones, also. The actual messages are stored in the same fashion and place as they are before this app is installed, and the original SMS app is still present and useable.
Positives:
1. It's a free bonus if you love the app for the main contact managing feature, and plan on keeping it around regardless of it's sms uses.
2. It works.
3. On-screen text entry methods do not cover up what you're trying to write.
Negatives:
1. I don't think it does MMS
2. It doesn't seem to play well with the Palm threaded app. I have the palm app installed on my hermes and with PocketCM running, if I compose a message in PocketCM and send it, it'll show up under pocketCM, but the palm app doesn't pick up on it. So Palm doesn't show it. Then when I get a response, PocketCM gets the new message notification and does it's thing, bringing that contact to the top of the contact list and displaying a message, but the palm app intercepts the actual message, so there's nothing displayed in PocketCM and it takes a soft reset to make it realize that there's not a new message waiting for you to read it (after you read it with the palm app.)
My question:
If I abandon the palm app and opt for using PocketCM, how can I back up my messages other than with some program like Jeyo mobile extender? In other words, where are the messages actually stored? It irks me to no end to have to use a whole separate program to back up SMS messages, when it's so easy to do with the palm app. I want to be able to simply manually copy a file to my storage card periodically, as I do with PalmMsgV001.
I use the built in deal and PocketCM. When I want to back up my SMS convos, I just use PIM backup. Actually, I use PIM backup about once a month to make sure I have a working backup of all my info.
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Negatives:
2. It doesn't seem to play well with the Palm threaded app. I have the palm app installed on my hermes and with PocketCM running, if I compose a message in PocketCM and send it, it'll show up under pocketCM, but the palm app doesn't pick up on it. So Palm doesn't show it. Then when I get a response, PocketCM gets the new message notification and does it's thing, bringing that contact to the top of the contact list and displaying a message, but the palm app intercepts the actual message, so there's nothing displayed in PocketCM and it takes a soft reset to make it realize that there's not a new message waiting for you to read it (after you read it with the palm app.)
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If you're trying to decide between the two, and you settle on pocketcm, there's no need to keep the palm app installed, so the #2 negative point won't really matter.
w/o MMS !!!!
how can we compare if the MMS doesn't included!!
another sms threader
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Threader-22509.shtml
Looks promising!
True. I was hoping to keep the palm app installed, though, and have them work well together so that I'd still have all my messages stored in the one PalmMsgV001 file and I'd be able to use either.
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If you're trying to decide between the two, and you settle on pocketcm, there's no need to keep the palm app installed, so the #2 negative point won't really matter.
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I don't think Jeyo Mobile Extender works with the Palm app either, does it? (unless support was added in a more recent version)
The Palm app is the odd one out in that it doesn't use the standard SMS messaging file.
pocket cm is great but with latest relese has isues with the sms so it will hav to be palm for now
I'm using the palm right now. I just wish it looked cool like the iPhone...hah. The PocketCM one looks better, but I don't like the way you have to get to it...
I am shocked with pocket cm choices
Tried all sms app
Palm sms
Pocket cm
O2 sms plus
Txt man
SMS threader
I am sms freak, i have been trying all sort of sms programs.
Palm messaging ,nothing beats palm sms, for pure stability. its very simple and it does do what its suppose to do, and very user friendly. there is a wm6 version.
Pocket cm, i dont know why has this developer made this under developed sms feature in a difficult to use contact manager anyway, it very cool looking contact app, but tell me honestly, how many of u can really scroll to the right contact easily, compared to a dial pad input, hahaha. plus it doesnt even show the sms popup properly, i got fed up of it, it doesnt even have any option to customize.
Txt man, is very simple, but then it doesnt replace ur original sms app.hasnt been able to beat palm sms. the fonts are too big. but its still better then Pocket cm.
SMS threader, this could have given competition to palm version, but it some times gives error, to quit app(only sometimes). it has an email mesg function.
O2 sms plus, If we get the wm6 version things can change dramatically for all the sms app, this has the gr8 feature of scheduling an sms, and the receiving and sending vcard, which is not present in any sms app till now, we dont even have a vcard app for wm6. the wm5 version does install and run, but it doesnt thread,it can however receive vcard and send one too, it conflicts with palm mesg, and wont display ur incoming sms at all. it gives u an option to close the running inbox i.e inbuilt one. but still there is no guarantee that it will work everytime.
I hope some talented genius will extract a wm6 version of o2 smsplus from new xdas and let us test it out.
Result, palm mesg is the best for now
Thanks for reading, hope it help
It's not really fair to compare at this stage. I personally use PocketCM as it works very well for contacts and SMS and it can be customised and skinned quite extensively. However you have to remember that this is STILL a beta application and is improving all of the time through suggestions from users.
I'm currently using PocketCM.
I like Pocketcm for now, but would love palm threader if the virtual keyboard wouldn't cover wut you are typing.
pocketcm is a good program. Just tried it and I love it.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Threader-22509.shtml
Looks promising!
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I used this program for a while, until I came across the Palm SMS Threader. i had to stop using it because the app started to really lag if a long chat log was kept on my phone. Load time got longer and longer and the app would miss letters that I typed about the same time.
I like Pocket CM's interface, but would rather have it disable sms's in outlook. The Palm SMS Threader is awesome, but for some reason messages get stuck in the outbox and keep sending. I had to uninstall it because people were complaining too much... has that happend to anyone?
For me, PocketCM for sure.
I like the contact manager interface (very very cool) and it access sms data from same location, no need to worry abt converting again and again sms backup or lose them if u are not going to use it in the future.
am i on crack for not using pocketcm? it sucks for text messages..palm threader sms beats it in every category..and arent we in a hermes forum? why would u be using a virtual keyboard anyways?? and with pocketcm i cant even send a MMS which I do *alot*...heh
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am i on crack for not using pocketcm? it sucks for text messages..palm threader sms beats it in every category..and arent we in a hermes forum? why would u be using a virtual keyboard anyways?? and with pocketcm i cant even send a MMS which I do *alot*...heh
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The reality is if we could not use both PocketCM and Palm thread app. on the same PPC phone, I would select PocketCM, since it 's contact manager interface. Very convenient when u wanna call someone , need not to use stylus anymore. (so the thread sms function is a bonus)
Hm.. I installed the Palm SMS threader, and it works great, but now I don't get any sound when I get a new text message.. ?
Hi everyone...
I am using at the moment a small program that copies all incoming sms in my calendar - it's just practical. The program is unfortunately not openly available. (and it does have a problem with the time zones)
But now after all the weekly flashing of new cooked roms, the call history always gets wiped. Does anyone know a resident software that collects both calls and sms (both in&out) in the calendar as events?
abe
Someone like this ?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-call-calendar.html
hmm, the download link doesn't work for me...
maybe any other ideas?
mfg
Well I'll give it a try this evening or tomorrow morning after I've flashed miri's newest
Anyway, seems that here would be some homesteading possibilities for someone to write an app to do both sms and call collecting. Of course with almost umlimited configuration possibilities
I would certainly want to work as a beta tester and feature designer for such an app.
After all, I'd say there are a lot of people who do not have office communicator for their private needs...
abe
http://www.4shared.com/get/61611304/674c57ce/CallCalendarInstaller.html
Is this the one we are talking about ?
A bit more description than just a downlink to a random program would be nice. Installing the .cab does not seem to do anything. Nothing in the start menu, nothing visible in the calendar after making a call...
abe
Phonelog
Ive been using this chaps program - Very good!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491168
Can this be ported to WP7 by anyone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298279
Essentially this stores the call start time, end time, duration and name of the other party if they are in the contact list, for both incoming and outgoing calls with an option to select if one wants to copy missed call details too.
As an enhancement we could also copy all incoming and outgoing SMS messages with relevant details to the calendar or in a separate folder in the main email account.
There's no api at this time to get that kind of information. Maybe one day it will be possible but not for now.
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Can this be ported to WP7 by anyone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298279
Essentially this stores the call start time, end time, duration and name of the other party if they are in the contact list, for both incoming and outgoing calls with an option to select if one wants to copy missed call details too.
As an enhancement we could also copy all incoming and outgoing SMS messages with relevant details to the calendar or in a separate folder in the main email account.
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I support this request, would love an app like that.
docraj said:
Can this be ported to WP7 by anyone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298279
Essentially this stores the call start time, end time, duration and name of the other party if they are in the contact list, for both incoming and outgoing calls with an option to select if one wants to copy missed call details too.
As an enhancement we could also copy all incoming and outgoing SMS messages with relevant details to the calendar or in a separate folder in the main email account.
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Me too. I miss CallCalendar already
Big time necromancy, but relevant:
Will Mango provide the APIs needed to get a CallCalendar-like app working?
I was using over 4 months WP7... liked it... but i always had problems keeping track of my phone calls, wich are a lot for my own company...
Since i got noticed about this app i got back from the shelve my HD2 and TP1... this app rules! I even ordered (since i can't miss a full keyboard phone) an SE X2!!! I'm addicted to this app!
If a port would come i'm even willing to pay for it!
Greets,
Michiel
Please post in the Requests/ideas thread. The SW development forum is for software development, not requests. The thread is there specifically for that reason.
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Short list for now, but people should add... Maybe give the devs some ideas of stuff to make and submit.
1. Comm Manager - I hate having to goto 5 spots to turn stuff off and on when i dont need it. (3g while at home with my wi-fi, no thanks)
2. Ring Profile - Like NightMode or WorkMode... nice and quick to swap out Tones and Volume levels.
If there is any dev that would like to pick my brain on features and stuff, feel free to PM me.
Everyone else submit your thoughts and ideas...
I would lik an easy to use SMS backup, or record to calendar utility.
I could definitely use a tile that toggles the data connection ON and OFF with a single click. The same goes for the WiFi connection.
Yes - +1 for a live tile to toggle wifi on/off
Also, some kind of 'handsfree' app that will set the phone to auto answer calls and turn on speaker phone (for use in car etc)
SSH client...
Wish List for Apps
1. WP7 Taks List that syncs with Outlook Task
2. File Explorer app that allows me to manual copy files into WP7 or out from WP7, nevermind if it's a separate storage aread away for the system stuff, i just need to use some of the 16GB hanging on the phone that I can use easily...
3. Any App that allows me to read right managed emails...
1. tcpmp player and the ability to add .avi files so I don't have to convert them. (if there is a way to play them without converting please let me know, I download a lot of tv shows through graboid and like to watch them on my phone.
2. psx emulator with bt syncing capability to either a wii remote or ps3 remote.
3. phone number blocking program
Multimessenger (ICQ, JABBER, Live!)
I would like a call manager program like Magicall for WM6. It filters phone calls and SMS's through a user-defined rule set. Not sure if WP7 is even capable of this yet, given the multitasking setup it currently has.
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I would lik an easy to use SMS backup, or record to calendar utility.
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I second this man. Also a port of CallCalendar and something to record calls.
We are getting some nice ideas going, just hoping we have some devs reading this that would be willing to tackle these requests and make some people happy (and some cash for the effort)
some of these aren't possible on the platform yet, but keep them coming
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some of these aren't possible on the platform yet, but keep them coming
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figured as much, but wanted to start some kinda list and get the ball rollin.
Thanks for response, we now know there is some dev intetest.
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Multimessenger (ICQ, JABBER, Live!)
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2nd the multi messenger.. such as a real live msn messenger that works like the pc version or FRING(fantastic on the android).
--Notifications to the tile and lock screen would be bonus
Definitely waiting for Mint app for windows phone 7.
carlonalls said:
2nd the multi messenger.. such as a real live msn messenger that works like the pc version or FRING(fantastic on the android).
--Notifications to the tile and lock screen would be bonus
Definitely waiting for Mint app for windows phone 7.
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if fring is on your list, it doesnt hurt to shoot thier support email address the question of if they are workin on one.
Can anyone say Myphone.
diego1985 said:
Can anyone say Myphone.
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I thought this functionality was included for WP7 in the Windows Live services ?
Tune-in radio!
I would gladly pay for a data counter to keep track of my mobile data usage
most wanted apps for wp7
Coreplayer, MIRC, a file manager, video news feeds, FLASH for IExp....
for starters...