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does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)
ady_uaic said:
does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)
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Download BatterStatus Extended V. 1.04 Beta nightly build here. Every owner of P3300 has this installed. For more info... search this thread.
i've downloaded, and installed it. but my drain battery is very very very faster, in 5 minutes, drained 9%.
so what can i do?
ady_uaic said:
so what can i do?
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Charging would be an excellent option !
athanaso77 said:
Every owner of P3300 has this installed
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not every.....i don't use it
petervbeck said:
not every.....i don't use it
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Everytime I feel my Artemis needs an Overclocking - I give it a ROM straight up its slithery USB Hole !!!!
hee hee hee !
Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,
agfsilva said:
Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,
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Thats cool, thanks!
If you can avoid it, don't overclock!
As stated earlier in this thread...
I've found that overclocking, even with scaling, seriously affects battery performance.
I was until today running Vanilla 2.0, which was ok until I added batterystatus, with either fixed or scale doverclocking - both of which drained the battery like crazy.
If battery status is an isuse, use a lean, clean rom and don't load up loads of stuff you don't need - then the device will perform faster... I've just switched back to the Dopod WM6 release, and unclocked it runs everyhting I need absolutely fine.
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!
TangerineTractor said:
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!
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lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?
John Boy said:
lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?
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I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...
TangerineTractor said:
I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...
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Thanks for the advice. The CPU clocking is being done with Battery Status, which is part of the ROM, so If power consumption continues to be a problem I'll disable the over-clocking function from the Battery Status Options.
As for charging I'm fine, I have an in-car charger and a 40 minute commute every morning/evening
Thanks again,
John
i've got a question about batterystatus, maybe some1 in this post knows the answer:
is there a way that batterystatus keeps the overclock setting while suspended? i would love to UNDERclock my cpu to 123mhz when suspended, so safe extra battery, but seems that everytime i suspend, BS sets it back to 201.
i tried the options, but i can't figure out if it's possible to over/under clock while suspended.
Have you tried the CPUScaler option? It's build in to version 1.04
For the original FAQ etc goto the BatteryStatus website. Or read more in this thread.
i haven't try it. i have artemis 2.2
TangerineTractor said:
I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need,
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Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!
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Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!
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I've tried ALL the cooked ROMS here - I have a 'spare' device for testing...
I use my device for work emails, sat nav, personal mails, web browsing, music, and as my phone. I pair it up with a Sony Blootooth car stereo.
So... aside from a few games, what else do you need to do with your phone? I'd suggets that most of the stuff loaded onto some of the ROMS is completely superfluous and just clogs up the device - things like the touch cube are really tarty overheads. Over the past year, I have played with most stuff that's out there, free and paid, and have a pretty default set of standard stuff that I load onto a clean RM. I was using Vanilla 2.0, but that still ate battery, so when I read that the Dopod shipped WM6 ROm was fast and bare, I thought I'd give it a go, and I haven't looked back...
Here's what I have on it, all running from the Stoarage Card where possible:
CloseAll
Hibernate
Hbutton
TodayAgenda (enhanced Calendar on Today)
Sunnysoft Contacts (one fingered dialling in the car)
TotalCommander
TomTom 6
Coreplayer (gives far better bluetooth audio streaming, and plays videos)
iphone keypad (default one buttons too small in the car)
SamsungTime (big clock on Today, but doesn't have the weight of HTC)
With all of this, I get brilliant battery life and a more than adequate response time without any overclocking, and over 20mb useable ROM.
TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?
ctibor said:
TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?
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The Dopod WWE ROM from the Wiki link has Office Mobile on it, and to be honest, I hardly use that anyway... which do you mean by the Europe version - maybe I'll give it a blast..??
Have anyone tried this app on Blackstone?
Some reports from other forums indicate much better performance after using this app.
SpeedBooster
Maybe we can find out what settings, if any, improves the performance.
I'm going to install now...
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This my default benchmark before any altering.
onkolog Lite Rom
SanDisk 8Gb Class4
Tried to alter some settings, but so far only getting lower score on benchmark. Will continue to try though....
No video results.
When I tried to do the same as in the demovideo, I got lower benchmark ??
Count me in!
got the same results as the above (test done immediately after a soft reset).
played around with settings and benchmarked again. no matter what i did the results were worse than the original ones.
tried to restore the default ones with no success and had to restore from backup in order to have the best results i obtain with my original settings.
the only good thing:
-benchmark
addons:
-strip battery (very similar with the one found in the forum).
-"real close" button is overlaping the existing one.
-hack battery (make the battery last longer), not tested.
my conclusion: to uninstall it....fast..
Same Experience here.
I managed to get just slightly better benchmark.
The other tools I already had.
No point installing this.
I'm getting rid of it also.
Hi
Hello,
I'm lucky because when I install is
soft and then he did not want to get started, so then I tried not to know
why and how.
In any case thank you for the info I do not regret not working with me ...
A more
KukurikU said:
got the same results as the above (test done immediately after a soft reset).
played around with settings and benchmarked again. no matter what i did the results were worse than the original ones.
tried to restore the default ones with no success and had to restore from backup in order to have the best results i obtain with my original settings.
the only good thing:
-benchmark
addons:
-strip battery (very similar with the one found in the forum).
-"real close" button is overlaping the existing one.
-hack battery (make the battery last longer), not tested.
my conclusion: to uninstall it....fast..
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Would agree, uninstall this!!
Fallen Spartan said:
Would agree, uninstall this!!
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i bet the ppl from teksoft are crazy about us!
KukurikU said:
i bet the ppl from teksoft are crazy about us!
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lol
Getting your program slammed on xda is probably the worst thing that can happen...
try again
sony xperia benchmark with SB 2.0.020.
cab here.
Guys, I think you're not using it correctly.
The benchmark measures the Hardware performance, but according to their website, you can't get more power out of nothing, the tool is to give more power to the apps you need, and take it from those you're not using that much.
Ex: when using GPS you don't care about other apps, you want the GPS to load faster.
Read more here.
For me it proves to be a useful tool, I'll test it more the next days.
Did it help?
HGLevitator said:
Guys, I think you're not using it correctly.
The benchmark measures the Hardware performance, but according to their website, you can't get more power out of nothing, the tool is to give more power to the apps you need, and take it from those you're not using that much.
Ex: when using GPS you don't care about other apps, you want the GPS to load faster.
Read more here.
For me it proves to be a useful tool, I'll test it more the next days.
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Yepp, he (or she)'s right! And it does make a difference!
To find out for yourself, download the app and run it (it will run in demo mode, which is sufficient to see the difference in the following test). Open the processes screen, find the gwes.exe process and tap the minus button on the left until it has the lowest possible priority. Hit ok and open the windows 6.5 start menu: You will notice how scrolling through the menu is now REALLY slow and laggy! Go back into Speedbooster, enter the processes screen and now give gwes.exe the highest possible priority. Tap ok and again open the start menu: Now everything is really smooth!
So it can make a big difference! The big question is though: Which processes should have a high, which ones a low priority? Although that is simple to answer if you want to increase performance in CorePlayer or some other specific app, it's not easy to answer if you want to increase your overall performance...
EDIT: I'm going to benchmark Coreplayer with Speedbooster active and inactive to find out, how big the difference is... I'll post the results here later!
Here are the results:
I used this file (Matrix trailer): http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
Results with Speedbooster inactive: 89,84 %
Results with Speedbooster active: 92,23 %
So there was a slight increase... but it's not much!
of course it does its job. its not an overclock application, but since windows mobile does not include a priority adjust application, this is so useful. for example, adjust manila.exe to high priority and open some background job. manila freezes without this app, but its so smooth with it (of course, while the background job done slower). but this is useful for web browsing and navigation applications, since they really suck sometimes (they get slow much even if u get a simple sms).
ps: i dont know how it affects battery but, it made my blackstone just like iphone with a proper config.
barisahmet said:
of course it does its job. its not an overclock application, but since windows mobile does not include a priority adjust application, this is so useful. for example, adjust manila.exe to high priority and open some background job. manila freezes without this app, but its so smooth with it (of course, while the background job done slower). but this is useful for web browsing and navigation applications, since they really suck sometimes (they get slow much even if u get a simple sms).
ps: i dont know how it affects battery but, it made my blackstone just like iphone with a proper config.
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What is your config? I've used this and never really got it to work well.
SD card is installed.
But after I checked it myself suddely the location was moved?
Same speed before (pic3) and after I changed the settings(2)
Is this app really working?
Sean3 said:
What is your config? I've used this and never really got it to work well.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606416
A free version, though it does not do benchmark.
The dsai one is the free one.
MOD EDIT: CRACKED VERSION REMOVED
@bozbeast: By free do you mean cracked?
A mod please delete the speedbooster_ppc_2.0.020.rus.by.Dasai.cab file.
The worst part is that you are not realizing this is stealing.
Everyone, please remember that warez of any kind is strictly prohibited here.
When I run skyfire and I'm and my text open, I start having to close stuff in order for the other to run. Anyway I can run the programs in a temp swap type environment on my microsd card?
I'm pretty sure you can't - maybe you can with a 3rd party app, not sure - certainly not by default.
Unfortunately 64Mb RAM is a bit low for all the new apps that are coming out these days, I had Iris Browser which was pretty unusable because of all the RAM it used when loading large pages. Shame, but that's what you get from a 3 year old device I guess!
Yep not possible has been talked about over in Dev, the best you could do to say claim more RAM is by decreasing the PagePool, this all depends what ROM you are using to how much you want to PagePool....
Kavana\Ricky can drop to about 4.5MB PagePool so aprx 27MB free RAM.
All info found in RoseROM Remade thread bear in mind what you gain in RAM you loose in speed.
Trial and error, good luck
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
Yeh its def a significant difference. I also overclock to 264 when running games, fully stable.
ojideagu said:
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
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ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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jdshifflett said:
that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
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This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
roloracer said:
This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
stylez said:
So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
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I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
roloracer said:
I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
stylez said:
Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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No rush, I'm getting ready to take the wife to the movies, so I won't be on much.
roloracer said:
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
ojideagu said:
Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Well yeh. Now I have an SD card most of my stuff is on that so
dont have too much hassle replacing everything.
I will try some. Ive got the official rom.
There is a overclock test going on at nuerom!
He finally managed to overclock some MSM72xx devices,
although right now it's only a beta test some results has been successful.
For now it's only possible overclocking to 768MHz
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/07/nueOverClockTest.aspx
Please read first the official News over at nuerom and try at you own risk!
Ikkari said:
There is a overclock test going on at nuerom!
He finally managed to overclock some MSM72xx devices,
although right now it's only a beta test some results has been successful.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/07/nueOverClockTest.aspx
Please read first the official News over an nuerom and try at you own risk!
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Yeah, i read it but i don't understand the instructions, how to i test it?
From reading the comments its still a no... but a step in the right direction I guess... 600Mhz would do for me... smoooth up You Tube and general response time would be great!
isnt this the same as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507301
info5i2002 said:
Yeah, i read it but i don't understand the instructions, how to i test it?
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Just install the cab and start nueOverClockTest in you all programms
folder.
same
Pressed the icon and the same results just a striaght of crash/restart wonder why he cant step the over clock speed down abit it would be good to see this running for a little while,
Id be hapy with 600mhz as well lol thats not being greedy hope this comes true i had an samsung omnia i900 and used to use it all the time then i overclocked it using software and damn the phone was fast even animations like flash and divxs loaded fast, great for kinetic scrolling to,
Hello
Thanks for the link
Will test it !!
edit : doesn't work for me freeze
miniterror said:
isnt this the same as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507301
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no it's not the same, this application is for overclocking.
But it's from the same guy ^^
does not work for me as well maybe 768mhz is just too much
is there any possibility to use for example only 650mhz?
It seems to help to disable radio (only Phone OFF) and plug the phone into the A/C charger.
This is a very early test version ....most users at HTC Diamond an Xperia confirmed that it works.
More tweak options ...lower/higher CPU speeds will follow, like i said this is a very early beta but it seems promising. For now it is only 768MHz .
Hi, work me it "works".
You have to disable all plugins on today (touch flo, titanium) and then it works.
In SK tools integer benchmark I get 485 points, 331 on standard frequency, which is I mean huge difference. But solitaire works for 5sec, then freezes. Igo 8 loads to main screen and then freeze....
GSM Touch HD
iam try to oc my blackstone but my phone freez at every time when i try it... (turned on/off radio, with/without ac adapter)
jura55 said:
Hi, work me it "works".
You have to disable all plugins on today (touch flo, titanium) and then it works.
In SK tools integer benchmark I get 485 points, 331 on standard frequency, which is I mean huge difference. But solitaire works for 5sec, then freezes. Igo 8 loads to main screen and then freeze....
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Do you tested it on a Blackstone?
Be sure, on my Blackstone,with EnergyROM 30.8.2009.
I've been using it by now about 5 hours on Xperia X1. These are the results of the benchmarks (from sk tools) with v.1.3
NO OVERCLOCK (528mhz)
Integer: 320.2148
Floating point: 7.366
RAM Access: 1404
Draw bitmaps: 603
Main storage (write): 1953.55
memoria principal (leídos) 5228.94
OVERCLOCK (768mhz)
Integer: 478.6538
Floating point: 11.171
RAM Access: 1203
Draw bitmaps: 775
Main storage (write): 2271.35
Main storage (read): 5879.43
I'm using a cooked rom with windows mobile 6.5. Windows now works a lot better, not as choppy as before, photos are loading a lot faster and I get about 5-15fps more on the psx emulator. Overall it works great, but keep in mind it's not really stable. It freezes with ease.
And I had to disable my Phone on comm manager (the option between fly mode and bluetooth) if I don't it freezes. But once you run the overclock you can turn it on again and it works perfect.
Hey sorry duplicate post, don't know how to delete it :-|
how long have you been running it for? And have you noticed any increased heating? I expect that there will be...i'm just slightly worried that extended use will kill the Blackstone =/
What do I have to do to get 768MHZ?
Just install the cab and start the program?
Hello,good software to destroy your HD ...
Alright Marcdu81
we got two options here:
Your post is just senseless and absolutely unnecessary.
or
You experienced some difficulties after installing this software, maybe it even harmed your HD.
If that is the case you should state more precisely what happened in order to help avoiding things like that in the future!
hi everyone, i'm no expert on phone, so don't kill me if i sound stupid
been using my galaxy S for about 4 months now. and yes it does lag compare to the iphone, or other HTC phones. so i been trying to find out, what's going on? why is my top end phone lagging? here's what i found:
1) when does it start to lag badly?
i installed system panel which gives me a nice list of active and inactive apps, and how much free ram i have left. the phone ALWAYS starts to lag like crazy when ram gets below 60mb. this is a problem - samsung is not giving us enough free ram to play with as once we run a few apps (market, internet especially), we're reaching the 60mb point already. when the phone gets to the 60mb mark it tries to manage the apps by closing some less important ones. but it lags BADLY while doing so.
what's gonna happen is the phone gonna get into this never ending cycle of closing apps and laggin as it's stuck in around the 50mb-60mb mark.
i can solve this by going to system panel and closing all inactive apps. then the ram is gonna go back to around 140mb. however after opening a few apps, once again it goes back to below 60mb and the lag starts again.
2) autokiller
guys been saying autokiller is great and they go with the aggressive settings. i tried it and it made the phone worse. why? because instead of killing apps at the 60mb mark it starts killing apps even sooner! that's wasting battery, wasting free ram, and making the phone even slower. we don't have enough free ram to begin with, so we should make max use of it. here's how i do it:
1) root the phone. install autokiller from the market.
2) instead of using high aggressive settings, use the LOWEST settings. i use advanced mode and then enter all values to 8mb only.
now it is awesome!! the phone never lags until you get it down to around the 20mb mark. you now have around 40mb of extra ram to use (of course autokiller does use some ram but no big deal). the lag starts much latter. u may not think 40mb is a lot but it is in practice!
if you dont believe me, you can try it. it may or may not work for u, but it's definitely working for me. of course, once the ram falls below 20mb, it may be a good idea to close some inactive apps yourself, LOL
but really, samsung should give us at least 100mb more free ram, i can't believe i even have to do this!
Well you point one issue that lag happens, but almost every custom kernel/Rom use memory tweak that Make you around 40MB more to start with.
And yes autokiller don't work good.
The program in the phone is the best to use.
The main lag issue is the filesystem.
Even these can be fixed with many different kernel/Rom.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 341MB Ram
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but a few things to add:
1) i have not applied lag fix myself but i have a friend who has. i dont feel his phone is much quicker than mine in reality. also, his phone crashed after a few weeks and he had to do a hard reset. what we REALLY need is more ram. if we have lots of ram, who cares about the file system? we don't even need any swap from the file system. just let everything stays in ram where it is the quickest.
2) i'm not using any custom roms. if custom roms give me extra 40mb, and then i adjust the auto killer setting to low, that gives me 80mb extra to play with. great.
autokiller DOES work good i feel if you're doing what i'm saying. maybe u have already tried what i'm doing, i don't know, but if you have not, then i highly recommend you to try it.
like i said i'm no expert on this, but autokiller is so easy to install and adjust, and that i feel anyone here can use it
maybe flashing custom firmware is easy to do, i haven't tried it, but it sounds complicated to do for me, and i don't want really big changes on my phone, i want it to be extremely stable and safe as i use it a lot for business. i don't really want to risk any data or risk reinstalling stuff.
so maybe i sound uneducated but like i said i suggest everyone to try this method if they're newbies and don't wanna do too much
I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
i have a buddy with a moto milestone and his phone lags just the same as ours. his phone has even less free ram than ours and so his is constantly lagging. sometimes he can't even take a phone call while listening to music becoz his phone only has like 50mb of free ram after starting up. so, just a point of reference - our galaxy is crippled with just not enough free ram, i heard stories of nexus one having 200+ free ram after startup and that's why they dont lag like us, so at the end of the day we're fighting a losing batter becoz samsung didn't give us a good enough phone
Mycorrhiza said:
I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
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thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
supraman123 said:
thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
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If we know the amount of time and money Samsung spend on developing RFS...
So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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Mycorrhiza said:
I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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hi, thank u, can u tell me how to secure the data? or u have any good links to show me? thanks
jjwa said:
You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
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i hope it will work good for u also
xmonkee said:
So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
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i'm quite disappointed at the ram issue also. coming from a n97 mini which seriously lacks ram, i was hoping by going for a high end phone like the galaxy, i aint gonna have to worry about ram and closing apps manually all day, however in reality the Galaxy aint much better than the n97 at multi tasking. of course, it's far better than the n97 at everything else.
I totally agree with OP on this one!
But Autokiller is not the only app that can fix the lag.
One Click Lag Fix 2.0 can root your SGS (Eclair only), lagfix it (with EXT2) and it can even do some additional tweaks like minfree (same as the Autokiller app) and fix the Scheduler.
With minfree Samsung put these values in "/sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree":
"2048,4096,5120,5632,6144,7172"
But best is:
Aggressive: "1536,2048,4096,21000,23000,25000"
or
Strict: "1536,2048,4096,15360,17920,20480" - I prefer this one
btw when you've a lot of ram free the ram is mostly used to cache file system reads ^.^
this explains that a little
Im using the 341MB of free ram so that gives me an instant 40MB ontop of the stock kernel, never seen the phone had less than 60mb free with this kernel, with my usage it doesnt even go under 95mb free.
I am also running one of those kernels that gives extra RAM. And I have all my partitions Ext4 lagfixed. But my phone still seems quite slow at times. My RAM was above 80MB free at that time though, so probably not related to any minfree/Autokiller thing at all. Which means there are way more causes to get rid of I guess.
I don`t know how you guys have problems with the lag, I use the stock samsung JPO, not even deodexed with zankinz 23 kernel and NO-RFS all ext4 lagfix and the phone is running perfectly, no lag whatsoever, the RAM is somewhere near 220 mb free after reboot. After deodexing and optimizing the apk`s the phone should run even better. I was determined to change my SGS with a Desire HD, but now I`m really thinking of keeping it.