hi guys,
I've been following all the different threads and topics for a while and it has been a very nice friendly place to be in.
Anyhow.. i would like to know if someone can direct me to how to make a cab file which will input all my setting, owner name, install program a, b, c, d, e, f, g and etc then will fix up the registry key and enter all the serials i have brought in the past. This way i don't have to reinstall each program (both cab and exe) again after upgrade the ROM
I'musing Black 2.5 atm and looking forward to get balck 3 today
Thanks guys
Ditto!
I think such app would be very useful for all of us beta testers
Or taster of new flavours!
Maybe our chefs already has something like this that they use!
Some are in the works
JJ and walshieau are working on projects similar to this.
JJ has "Pimp my Black" which is HTweakC on steriods and walshieau is building an app that will restore your carrier settings.
Loading apps back on are easy, as long as you sync with a PC. They never uninstall from your PC, just simply re-check the ones you want to reload on your device and there they are again.
Backup programs like SPB and Sprite have known issues between builds, as I'm sure you know since you posted as if you've read the forums on this subject. Kudos.
It would be really cool if JJ and walshieau would combine forces and make that one killer app for all customizations to be saved to a file and restored once flashed, and if a customization were to have a format or length issue, then toss an error and let the user know. (hint, program spec??? )
I keep a backup on storage card of each of the roms I've tried...just in case.....I wonder if this is misguided somehow.
Thanks.
This is my current method:
put all the cab files (inc carrier setting -offline by walshieau) in the storage card and also along with all the serial numbers in there.
I tended to do things on the go (out of the house/ no pc) so if i happened to flash my phone before i leave my house then i will be able to install all the apps back by the time i get to work. Altho it's a lengthy instalaltion process (swapping the apps, folder, serial number, folder, app, enter rego).
i actually i was going to ask so if SPB backup and other back up will not work properly right? Say, i am using black 2.5 and backup here.... then upgrade to black 3 version then if i use restore program.. it will restore me back to 2.5 instad of 3 ... is this information correct? i read it somewhere....
I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
i am interested in such tools too although using the Dopod D810 aka Trinity.
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I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
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I am using Sprite 5.1 and it does the backup and migration from Black 2.0 to 2.5 very well only have to redo my Wifi and Email settings, all my apps works fine. The FAQ to do it is available at Sprite's website on doing devie upgrade or OS upgrades with Sprite and WM5, works fine with WM6
Be aware that SPB Backup and Sprite Backup cant restore backups on different ROM's. Mobile Backup 2007 says it can but I havent tried it yet..
Dunno if I can post the follwing link but its the place you can get Mobile Backup:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=157755&highlight=mobile+backup
I have Sprite but last time I used it on WM5 after a hard reset, it would not restore my data So I dumped it and went with SPB which has worked flawlessly ever since. I just don't see how any backup would work properly when restoring onto a different rom, I got away with it but I know that it's not 100% right now.
i was thinking of making my own cab file where specific to install
A, B, C, D....... G software (cab files), then install carrier setting, patch all the serial numbers to each softwares, change the look and all the setting in WM6 to match my like... damn it sound so hard and i don't even know how to make a cab file...
is something like this possible to learn?
I am slowly reducing the number of cabs I need to keep on my storage card by combining and creating them with my set ups.
As I have limited knowledge, this involves using sktracker to see exactly what changes were made in the registry when I changed a setting, and then using cabmanager to create a cab containing the reg settings (or say for spb weather, adding the changes to the original cab).
I understand that patching in the serials is not straightforward as it is not meant to be easy by design.
Am having trouble with some settings like email account setup, but am working through others.
crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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Yeah I don't know anything about creating the database entries so am going to have to leave that.
As for the second point - I am kind of winging it so to speak, so no I don't realy know.....
As I said, am most pleased with my custom SPB weather cab, as this installs the BBC template and sets up my work and home locations as the two tabs, linking off the bbc weather source.
Have also modified the Phone Alarm cab for my skin and settings, but as there is anew beta every few days at the mo, not so useful
Am about to start work on O2 plus, and setting up my shortcuts etc on install.
looking for mobile backup 2007...is this the one
trial here
CrazyC-
been messing around with the same ideas and it's driving me crazy ha.. Do you have to manually duplicate the registry entries you want when you're adding them to the original cab file (phone alarm, for instance)?
I was trying to extract the relevant registry entries, and have a program that would let me pack them into a cab, but everything i found wanted me to manually create registry keys..
any thoughts? cause it's flashing season ha
The safest way when going between ROMs is reinstalling. I use a few techniques.
1. Install CAB files from SD card. Then you just install them one by one by tapping. Installing from Activesync can be problematic memorywise as the CAB will copy down to main memory and then be deleted after installation. This can be an issue if you have too many apps to install at once.
2. Unless the new ROM has the same device ID, email settings really have to be manually entered each time. I experimented with workarounds but they simply don't work.
3. After you install all your programs, import registry keys containing your common settings. Before erasing the previous setting, do a registry dump and then search for and find those registry keys that contain the settings. Most (but not all) are in HKEY Current User. Be careful. Don't import stuff that might break the new ROM.
4. Copy files or shortcuts from old ROM to new one. Careful though - if you are going to copy directories, use Total Commander or something. SPB Backup and WM File Explorer will REMOVE the old contents of a directory and replace it with only the stuff you have in your new copy of the directory! Total Commander only updates the new items.
5. Unfortunately, the only way to REMOVE files or registry keys (short of writing a DLL file or fancy XML?) is to manually search and delete them. I think you could probably use Mortscript to automate this but not worth the time probably unless you are flashing every day.
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
Actually, I am using visual studio 2005 and making the adjustments to the emulator image, whilst watching the registry in the remote registry viewer. Once have identified the keys, I export them as reg files and then simply import them into cabmanager.
Depends on if you have access to VS2005.
I am sure there is a simpler way, (and am happy to learn it) but as I have occassional access to VS2005, this was how I decided to do it. Am using the WM6 SDK as well of course.
Because I keep updating the Phone Alarm beta, I actually modified the cab for the VisDaPhone skin to include my modified icons, and also to install the PA export file. Just running that cab after installing Phone alarm, and then importing the theme etc works for me. I did roll it all into one on an earlier version of PA, so it all started as per my settings, but then there was a new beta......
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I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
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I reckon (thanks to the exchange server) I can be back up in twenty!
If I can sort out the O2plus setup then I will reduce that as well.
I keep a word document on my sd card with a step by step guide for myself with serial numbers etc and settings.
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Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
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do yo mind telling what's the program name/url that woul dbe?
Was wondering if someone can tell me which file contains the IE plugin used by apps like Pocket Wikipedia. Ever since PIE6(WM6.1), its not working correctly. I know it has nothing to do with IE executable, n I also tried replacing some dlls I saw Pocket Wikipedia using, without any luck. What did work was restoring an old backup of a WM6 setup I'd made via spb clone onto the new WM6.1 setup. The restore got stuck in the middle where it was unable to restore registry entries, but it did restore software n even the IE plugin . The end result, as far as I could see was all WM6.1 other than the IE plugin. Now am using WM6.5 and I kinda like the new IE... so dont want to risk it again. Is there a way to simply replace the plugin file?
hello ,my fellow ,could U share the new ie with us by uplord it or give some link to download it ?thx
i dont think its out in cab form... its built into the rom.
Guys,
I am by no means a developer. However over the few days I have been experimenting with modifying some ROMs.
I have a rooted Hero with Modaco 1. 5 installed.
I have also discovered I can pull my protected apps from the phone and install them from my SD card.
My question is:
If I insert the .apk's into a ROM and re-sign it, will they automatically install?
I also run my apps from SD so will they go back there or will they use up internal memory?
If this works I could drop all of my protected apps onto each ROM update before flashing!
yes ir works. i use to do it that way!
what about copying paid/bought app's apk files to a new rom, are they in some way protected sothat this would not work?
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what about copying paid/bought app's apk files to a new rom, are they in some way protected sothat this would not work?
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No, this is why I was asking.
I have successfully taken a paid/protected app off my phone using a file manager program and just copying and pasting the .apk from the 'system/sd' folder on the EXT3 extension.
I have then installed it on another phone using an SD and app manager.
Therefore I was considering taking all of my paid/protected apps and dropping them into a ROM before I flash it to save downloading anymore programs as all of my other programs will already be on my EXT3 part of my SD card!
Woohoo......
Right, how do I sign a zip file?
aha okay, thats very interesting! ;-) know what im saying ;-)
does any one know of any android 2.0 cabs for vogue
There is a port but it has very limited functionality. Also, it does not come in cab. You have to place a bunch of files on the root of your SD card and run a program called haret.exe which will load the root file system as well as the kernel to run the OS.
Go to the general vogue section. You will have all the necessary info there. This section is only for WM upgrades.
every time in try it that way it wont work and i follow the insructions exactly and i did find a cab and it worked i tryed switching out the files but every time i try to run it it says failed to find system.img even though it named right and on the root of my sd
The cab version is probably a year old now. The files that were in that version will no longer work with current roms. There isn't a current all-in-one installer that I've come across that will run current versions of Android.
The new system images come with a .sqsh extension.
As the previous poster mentioned, the Vogue general forum has more Android related information.
Also, in case you guys are interested, dzo just came out with a flashable version of Android for the Vogue. In other words, you will install Android to the NAND rather than the SD card and wipe out WM in the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
It would be nice if someone were to come up with a cab that installed android
But unfortunately it would be a lot of work and instead you have to run it on an sd card via haret (though its not that much more difficult)
And zen just came out with a new android 2.0 (eclair) build so you should go check that out!
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It would be nice if someone were to come up with a cab that installed android
But unfortunately it would be a lot of work and instead you have to run it on an sd card via haret (though its not that much more difficult)
And zen just came out with a new android 2.0 (eclair) build so you should go check that out!
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Someone did make a cab. http://www.myhtcphone.com/Android120208.CAB from here http://www.myhtcphone.com/ it is old but it has been done and it does work.
I am wary of downloading apps from marketplace, there are several i would be willing to pay for, but being that I flash a new rom every couple weeks, i am worried that i will lose those apps i pay for. Is there a way to download the cabs for these apps or do I have to find another way to go about it
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I am wary of downloading apps from marketplace, there are several i would be willing to pay for, but being that I flash a new rom every couple weeks, i am worried that i will lose those apps i pay for. Is there a way to download the cabs for these apps or do I have to find another way to go about it
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When you sign in with your windows live ID, it knows what apps you have paid for and you can re-install them. I've been reloading mine after each flash.
i got a cab file from this forum that allowed me to choose if i want the app saved to my device or memory card. maybe worth looking for that so you could keep the file backed up on your pc??
I can email it over if you PM me your email address
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i got a cab file from this forum that allowed me to choose if i want the app saved to my device or memory card. maybe worth looking for that so you could keep the file backed up on your pc??
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When a program is installed from the marketplace does it even download a .cab file to the phone? I dont see the point downloading it to the sd card if its NOT a cab as you would STILL have to reinstall it after you flash.
Like it was said earlier when you use the marketplace it keeps track of your installs so you can reinstall everything.
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i got a cab file from this forum that allowed me to choose if i want the app saved to my device or memory card. maybe worth looking for that so you could keep the file backed up on your pc??
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That cab allowed you to INSTALL the app to the device or the SD card, not store a cab. Marketplace doesn't allow the download of cabs like you are thinking.
In any case, old versions of Marketplace get forced to download and install the latest version the second you try to connect to the store, there is no way around it. What you have sounds obsolete, and will get overwritten once you connect to the store, anyway. And the latest version of the Marketplace also now allows the choice to install apps to the device or the SD card.
Don't worry about saving the CABs. Once you've bought something on Marketplace, its yours. You can download them over and over, apparently an infinite amount of times.
If it still bothers you, just get the apps somewhere else, not Marketplace. Most every app on the Marketplace can be bought elsewhere, such as online stores like Handango. These stores will have a CAB version for you.
It seems i am in the wrong here, sorry for that!
Without getting into specific details, I've obtained all of the .CAB files for the applications I *purchased* from the Windows Marketplace. Now every reflash it's a simple matter of having the appropriate .CAB files in my XDA_UC folder so they get re-installed with the ROM setup.
But as I previously stated, the Marketplace ties your purchases to your live ID and you can re-flash and re-download as much as you like.
The apps will definitely be availble to be re-installed once you are ready to install them again. For as long as you sign on with the log in information you purchased them with of course.
Sorry to bump this post, but is there any work around for having to install marketplace apps over and over again after each flash? I have 42 apps from marketplace and some of them don't download properly when I press 'Install all' after a flash. I'm glad I have unlimited net at least