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WM6 and Vista Sync

Hi all.
Finally update my M3100 to WM6 (thanks to LVSM) and i can't connect with my Windows Vista desktop using latest driver from Microsoft.
I can connect with Windows XP box with Active Sync 4.5 without any problem.
Anyone get this working or am i crazy?
Thanks all.

Windows VISTA has a new activesync.
If you connect your device, you should see that Vista auto detects your phone.
But you can't install programs etc.
Then you have to run Windows Update to dowload an additional package, so you
can install programs etc.
So if your Vista ain't that legal, then don't try.

I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)
When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.
I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.
I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.
Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?

1V4NW00 said:
I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)
When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.
I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.
I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.
Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?
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If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.
Upgrade trough Windows XP.

vayip said:
If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.
Upgrade trough Windows XP.
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Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.
I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL

1V4NW00 said:
Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.
I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL
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Well, i expose my complete experience with Vista (of course legal copy )
I have one Qtek 9100 and one TyTN (SPV M3100 Spanish Orange).
days ago both of them with WM5 (original branded)
Yesterday move qtek 9100 to WM6, but can't do with Vista so i do in a VMWare Windows XP box running into Vista with VMWare Workstation (this works very fine). once the 9100 was WM6, Vista says taht the device is new and can't find the driver, but one day before works fine.
So today upgrade my TyTN with the same, put the RUU in the XP box, and works fine, but the same results in Vista and Mobile Sync. Works with SM5 but not with WM6. But in XP box, works with boths.
I think MS checks the OS version in Vista Sync, so you can't sync if the OS version isn't in the list of legal OS mobile.

I am running Windows Vista Ultimate and have WMXL 0.20 on my phone.
I can connect my phone to vista and i can browse my phone. I see the storage card and the internal memory.
You can't install application trough this.
If you want to install application when using Windows Vista, connect your phone with the USB cable, wait for Windows to detect your phone and install the drivers, then run Windows Update.
Then it will download an package so you can install applications.

Windows Vista uses the new Mobile Sync Center hence the RUU cannot connect with your PDA... if you replace the Mobile Sync Center drivers with the activesync ones you can get it to work...
there is a search button on the top right of this forum... as this topic has been discussed and answered many times before i suggest you use the search feature as it works wonders....

I installed Windoes Mobile Device Center on Vista, and I did not have a problem getting it to recognize my hermes w/ XDA-live 0.20. I did nothing special, just plugged it in, it was recognized, I configured it, and it syncs no problem.
Ross

Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.

jcespi2005 said:
Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.
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no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!

walshieau said:
no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!
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Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.
With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?
So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.
Thanks.

jcespi2005 said:
Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.
With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?
So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.
Thanks.
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did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???

walshieau said:
did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???
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Spanish. I must wait since installs Vista two weeks for the spanish version of the device center

i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.
The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.
Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA

fourcc said:
i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.
The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.
Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA
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I'm in your same situation.
Im my case, Vista dosn't find the correct driver for my M3100 with LVSW WM6 (perhaps i make a mistake installing, i'll reinstall Vista soon ) In XP box no problem to do that, and gain Internet connection from M3100 to get sync with Exchange server trought Internet.
How do you set the connection in Device Center?

Everything is working fine under vista for me.
I am able to:
-use ICS through USB, PAN
-manage installed programmes
-browse the device
...
I am using an english vista + an english WM6 tytn ROM

Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??

m15chief said:
Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??
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You just need to enable viewing of System folders in Folder options

I'm using Vista since the first day and I have updated my TyNT with LVSW ROM and everything works.
Bluetooth activesync / USB activesync / Pairing with Outlook 2007 / Seeing all the files on Main Memory and Storage Card....
All put in one word, everything is perfect.
Only one thing hasn't worked : I haven't been able to update using Vista.

Using Windows Vista

I just post this thread in order to help others which are having the same problem as I am and to avoid looking arround on all the posts for this answer.
I'm so happy that I've not yet test this procedure wanted to share with you ASAP.
Thanks pvdhelm
pvdhelm said:
Follow these instructions and your vista problem is over.
I used this guide and it works for my artemis p3300 phone!
Please try downloading the latest WMDC first before attempting anything in this section of the guides. you will find the latest version HERE .
To follow this guide please make sure you have a copy of WinRAR installed, I will refer to the Windows Mobile Device Centre as the WMDC for ease of reading. If you do not have the WMDC installed please go here to install it first.
One problem with windows VISTA is that it uses the new "Windows Mobile Device Centre" and not activesync which we are used to, thus our standard RUU programs will not upgrade our Hermes devices as in windows XP. This guide will show you how to configure VISTA to work just the same as XP with our RUU programs.
For this guide firstly you need to download the new drivers:
Drivers for Windows Vista x32
Drivers for Windows Vista x64
Please note the x64 drivers are unsigned so to use them successfully you must disable driver signing.
Extract the contents to a folder on your desktop, call this folder "AS_DRIVERS". It contains the drivers from activesync which we will use instead of the native VISTA WMDC drivers when the device is in bootloader.
Now you must enter the bootloader on your device, to do this press and hold both the side ok button and the power button then put your stylus into the hole on the bottom of the device, your device will reset and show the red blue green bootloader screen. LEAVE THE DEVICE IN BOOTLOADER MODE and connect it using the USB cable to your VISTA PC.
Now navigate into the WMDC (Start>All Programs>Windows Mobile Device Center) and click on the "connection settings" menu icon
In the connection settings menu untick "allow USB connections" then press OK.
Now exit the WMDC and return to the desktop, go into the start menu and type "Services", this will take you into the local services dialogue and show a list of all services either running or registered with your pc.
Scroll down the list and make sure these services are present:
Windows Mobile-based connectivity
Windows Mobile 2003-based connectivity
If these services are not started then double click each one and set them to Automatic start by clicking the "startup-type" drop-down menu and selecting automatic then click the start button in the same window, apply the setting by pressing OK. Now return back to the desktop again.
Go into the start menu and type "Device Manager" then run, this will take you into the device manager. Click the "+" symbol next to "Mobile Devices" and double click on "HTC USB Sync".
This will bring up the properties of the currently connected device (the hermes in bootloader).
Go to the "Driver" tab and click "Update Driver".
Click "Browse My Computer for Driver Software".
Select "Let me pick from a list...."
Click the "Have Disk" button.
Click "Browse" and navigate to the AS_DRIVERS folder we created earlier.
Vista x32 users select the file "wceusbsh.inf"
Vista x64 users select the file "wceusbshx64.inf"
Then click Open.
click next and the driver will be installed (wait a moment).
Press close and escape back to the desktop now.
Now we must stop the WMDC process, start the task manager by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Escape.
click the WMDC line and click "End Process". In the confirmation window, again press End Process.
Now re-enter the WMDC and re-enable USB connections (click connection settings and tick the box "enable USB connections").
Your RUU programs for HardSPL/Radios/WM6 ROMs should now run as desired once you are synced with WMDC. Since we have updated the driver which vista uses when the device is in bootloader mode.
NOTE:: This technique is still in testing so if you have any issues please post in the official thread. Until we find another way to get RUU working with vista you may need to revert back to XP for upgrading your Artemis.
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Just test it without any problem. I confirm the feasability of this procedure.
It rocks!
Always restart after before trying. It has worked with me.

Ha, Well I have tested and all works well, after this I've flashed USPL and B&B 3.7 ROM with no difficulty.

Now if I could only figure out why Mobile device Center will not install properly on my Vista Ultimate that I just 'upgraded' to today. It connected once, ran the sync but did not back up the contacts on my phone to outlook, and now on subsequent tries, the program wont open because of 'unknown problems'.
Maybe it's a sign to roll back to XP.

uninstall wmdc and then re-install. I had this error at first but fixed now.

Shand359 said:
uninstall wmdc and then re-install. I had this error at first but fixed now.
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I had a feeling, I did that procedure once already with redundant results....but then again, half of my peripherals such as DVD-ROM, or wireless card didn't work, but then miraculously started working just as I was about to teach my laptop how to fly.
I will keep trying, thank you.

itschase said:
I had a feeling, I did that procedure once already with redundant results....but then again, half of my peripherals such as DVD-ROM, or wireless card didn't work, but then miraculously started working just as I was about to teach my laptop how to fly.
I will keep trying, thank you.
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I'm not sure if that is the problem, but did you tried after restart vista?
When I made the procedure it was not working and then tried to restart and it was perfect.

Bluetooth sync works fine, but USB won't load driver. WM5 OEM, so no bootloader on my 8525. Will this solve my USB problem?

Hmm .. tried to follow the process above and Vista told me I already had the most recent version of the driver .. strange huh ?

For French :
http://www.forummobiles.com/index.php?showtopic=136003&hl=nuls

scratch that .. i missed a bit

Shand359 said:
uninstall wmdc and then re-install. I had this error at first but fixed now.
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Agreed. Some 'versions' of windows Vista have WMDC built in, it is no good, uninstall WMDC and download the version from MS web site. Once installed run Windows Update.

owencutajar said:
Hmm .. tried to follow the process above and Vista told me I already had the most recent version of the driver .. strange huh ?
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I had this issue too, uninstall vista drivers first, then install those from XP.

I followed these directions to update my Himalaya/Alpine-like i-mate PDA2 with disappointing results -- at first. WMDC claimed there was an error and I could not get it to respond. I flounced away and pouted for a little bit, and when I came back decided the only thing I could think of to change now before re-installing WMDC altogether was to roll back the driver for the mobile devices (in device manager) and WA-LA! Pouting works! I am now able to sync and Klaus (the i-mate) plays nice with Bob (PC)... ah, household bliss!
Thanks!

i still cannot get my laptop to see the artemis when it is bootloader mode - i have the XP driver on!!!!

I would love to try it, but does anybody have a german manual, or a translation program that translates Windows English into Windows German?

Problem with WMDC

Hello, i've installed WMDC 6.1, but i can't create a partership with the PDA.
When i connect it this error apears in eventviewer.
Windows Mobile-based device failed to connect due to communication (0x80072745) failure (see data for failure code).
thanks

Post #6; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315645

I've done that already.
If i Disable advanced network functionality Windows Vista don't create the windows mobile remote adapter, if i enable it it create it, but give me that error.

joaoccc said:
I've done that already.
If i Disable advanced network functionality Windows Vista don't create the windows mobile remote adapter, if i enable it it create it, but give me that error.
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The guy solved the problem by creating new backups

I tried to connect to two computers at work, and give me the same problem.
That computrs work with HTC Touch.

joaoccc said:
I tried to connect to two computers at work, and give me the same problem.
That computrs work with HTC Touch.
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... have you read the article? you need to create new backups on ur Artemis, then try syncing again.

what kind of computer?
I needed to get a hotfix from microsoft for my sony vaio for wmdc to work...

can't run C730,help!!!

Just now I install BB to C730 and restart the mobile,but can't start,rest on windows mobile 6 pic ,can't show desktop ,please help ,thanks in advance.
ActiveSync also not connected.
when I connect to the mobile with usb ,show ,Your device is currently locked..."

mssha said:
Just now I install BB to C730 and restart the mobile,but can't start,rest on windows mobile 6 pic ,can't show desktop ,please help ,thanks in advance.
ActiveSync also not connected.
when I connect to the mobile with usb ,show ,Your device is currently locked..."
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I just had the same experience like you...
I would suggest you to hard reset your C730..
press 'power', 'left softkey', 'right softkey' simultaneously when the phone is powered down
And wait for it to reboot..

I can't not , my device log in window nót run after press 3 button

Windows Vista...

Happy New Year Everyone.
Alright, i just upgraded to vista and when i plug in my phone it tries to install the driver but cant find them.. So when go into control panel and go to the windows mobile divice center (this replaced activesync....WTF) i little screen pops up and says device connected.. what do i do?

I fixed it for anyone who is having this problem just connect ur device go into control panel windows update and download the updaters!

1Airborne1 said:
I fixed it for anyone who is having this problem just connect ur device go into control panel windows update and download the updaters!
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Wait i guess that didnt work after all... anyone have any suggestions

this should work, worked for me under vista ultimate and windows 7
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx

k ill give it a try im crossing my fingers cause this is the only bad expericance with vista so far. besides it not letting me install windows media player..

It says update could not be installed because at least one windows componet required by windows mobile device center is missing. this is starting to piss me off

whats an alternative to activesync any free download ones? Cause i wanna upgrade my rom soon.