WM6 and Vista Sync - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi all.
Finally update my M3100 to WM6 (thanks to LVSM) and i can't connect with my Windows Vista desktop using latest driver from Microsoft.
I can connect with Windows XP box with Active Sync 4.5 without any problem.
Anyone get this working or am i crazy?
Thanks all.

Windows VISTA has a new activesync.
If you connect your device, you should see that Vista auto detects your phone.
But you can't install programs etc.
Then you have to run Windows Update to dowload an additional package, so you
can install programs etc.
So if your Vista ain't that legal, then don't try.

I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)
When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.
I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.
I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.
Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?

1V4NW00 said:
I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)
When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.
I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.
I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.
Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?
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If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.
Upgrade trough Windows XP.

vayip said:
If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.
Upgrade trough Windows XP.
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Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.
I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL

1V4NW00 said:
Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.
I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL
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Well, i expose my complete experience with Vista (of course legal copy )
I have one Qtek 9100 and one TyTN (SPV M3100 Spanish Orange).
days ago both of them with WM5 (original branded)
Yesterday move qtek 9100 to WM6, but can't do with Vista so i do in a VMWare Windows XP box running into Vista with VMWare Workstation (this works very fine). once the 9100 was WM6, Vista says taht the device is new and can't find the driver, but one day before works fine.
So today upgrade my TyTN with the same, put the RUU in the XP box, and works fine, but the same results in Vista and Mobile Sync. Works with SM5 but not with WM6. But in XP box, works with boths.
I think MS checks the OS version in Vista Sync, so you can't sync if the OS version isn't in the list of legal OS mobile.

I am running Windows Vista Ultimate and have WMXL 0.20 on my phone.
I can connect my phone to vista and i can browse my phone. I see the storage card and the internal memory.
You can't install application trough this.
If you want to install application when using Windows Vista, connect your phone with the USB cable, wait for Windows to detect your phone and install the drivers, then run Windows Update.
Then it will download an package so you can install applications.

Windows Vista uses the new Mobile Sync Center hence the RUU cannot connect with your PDA... if you replace the Mobile Sync Center drivers with the activesync ones you can get it to work...
there is a search button on the top right of this forum... as this topic has been discussed and answered many times before i suggest you use the search feature as it works wonders....

I installed Windoes Mobile Device Center on Vista, and I did not have a problem getting it to recognize my hermes w/ XDA-live 0.20. I did nothing special, just plugged it in, it was recognized, I configured it, and it syncs no problem.
Ross

Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.

jcespi2005 said:
Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.
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no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!

walshieau said:
no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!
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Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.
With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?
So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.
Thanks.

jcespi2005 said:
Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.
With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?
So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.
Thanks.
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did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???

walshieau said:
did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???
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Spanish. I must wait since installs Vista two weeks for the spanish version of the device center

i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.
The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.
Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA

fourcc said:
i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.
The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.
Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA
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I'm in your same situation.
Im my case, Vista dosn't find the correct driver for my M3100 with LVSW WM6 (perhaps i make a mistake installing, i'll reinstall Vista soon ) In XP box no problem to do that, and gain Internet connection from M3100 to get sync with Exchange server trought Internet.
How do you set the connection in Device Center?

Everything is working fine under vista for me.
I am able to:
-use ICS through USB, PAN
-manage installed programmes
-browse the device
...
I am using an english vista + an english WM6 tytn ROM

Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??

m15chief said:
Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??
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You just need to enable viewing of System folders in Folder options

I'm using Vista since the first day and I have updated my TyNT with LVSW ROM and everything works.
Bluetooth activesync / USB activesync / Pairing with Outlook 2007 / Seeing all the files on Main Memory and Storage Card....
All put in one word, everything is perfect.
Only one thing hasn't worked : I haven't been able to update using Vista.

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How to upgrade rom in Vista?

I recently install Vista RTM6000 on my laptop. But I found that I can not upgrade my universal rom ever.
Is there somebody successfully upgrade rom in Vista? And how can I do it?
At this point upgrading roms under vista is impossible, because RUU software is incompatible with Vista
The current way I do it is to install Virtual PC 2007 and run XP to do any flashing...it's a cludge but it works.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
oh,thanks very much,I can't refresh the rom for long time,but couldn't find out the reason.HoHo, that's just because I'm using Vista 6000.
Thanks, but a little sad. Vista does not runs so fast on my laptop. I have already two operation system installed. I really won't to install an another one...
snadboy said:
The current way I do it is to install Virtual PC 2007 and run XP to do any flashing...it's a cludge but it works.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
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How it works?, in my virtual XP, it doesn't recognize the prsence of any external devices, not only the jasjar but also the printer, webcam , and so on> Do you have any tricks to do that??

WMDC 6.1 is now available!

Enjoy!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
is it any different to 6.0.6783?
Still installing it, but it's supposed to be the first version to officially support WM6...
Is it just me or does it take ages for files to transfer using wmdc? if i use a £3 ebay purchased card reader its about 10x faster to pop the card in the reader and then put it back in the hermes when file transfer complete. I would have thought it wouldn't make that much difference but then again i don't much about that sort of thing
Wow for once it synced everything to Outlook 2007 thats something it never did before! Nice upgrade i must say
What version of WMDC is showing after your re-install?
Where would i find that? I know it said 6.1 when it installed
Open WMDC...
Click on the ? icon, and then check the "About WMDC..."
Thanks!
6.1.6965 ................
hmmm. 32-bit or 64-bit?
Is it me, or do ROM upgrades crash when using 6.1? I've managed to get ROM flashing working with Vista and WMDC (thanks mrvanx!), but with this update, the update application crashes after the phone goes into bootloader.
32 bit Vista ultimate
bizarre. I've downloaded/reinstalled the 32-bit English version three times, and my version still shows 6.0.6783
grrr
austinsnyc said:
32 bit Vista ultimate
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Mine installed fine with Vista Ultimate also.
SK
Under Connections dialog: new choice, check or uncheck:
Allow data connections on device while connected to PC
Can get device certificates.
Exact same overall slowness to sync.
Opportunity to get stuff you don't need during driver install on first sync after upgrading to 6.1.
goestoeleven said:
Enjoy!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
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Thanks for the notice
Thanks for the update.
Q: After installing WMDC 6.1, can we still flash ROM images under Vista? Or do we need to replace the ActiveSync drivers with the 4.5 ones again?
goestoeleven said:
Enjoy!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
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good to know.
thanks.
goestoeleven said:
bizarre. I've downloaded/reinstalled the 32-bit English version three times, and my version still shows 6.0.6783
grrr
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Ok, so I eventually got this running (both 32-bit and 64-bit Version 6.1.6965), but it was not a trivial install:
- had to disable firewall and antivirus
- had to uninstall all old versions and patches
- had to remove the device drivers for HTC USB Sync
Only then was I able to get it going (on both machines). Interestingly, I did not have to delete the partnership, but we'll see how today goes...
nbedford said:
Thanks for the update.
Q: After installing WMDC 6.1, can we still flash ROM images under Vista? Or do we need to replace the ActiveSync drivers with the 4.5 ones again?
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Well, my first test results is you now can use RUUWrapper in Vista using the new 6.1 drivers from WMDC. Theres no need to change to old driver nor disable and kill the wmdc process... good news... i've just flash splash screen now for testing purpose.
I've tried the mtty too, but the port for connecting to PDA while in tricolour isn't in the list. Can someone put the name for the port, to test...i can't remember...
Thanks.

Vista Sync Issues

Hi All, I have a Hermes with WM6 and have just installed Vista Ultimate and am not able to get my Hermes to Sync.
Vista claims it does not recognize the device . . . I have tried via USB & Bluetooth. Any ideas how I can resolve this?
Thanks in advance.
Same thing happen to me the first time what ROM did you use? I just use Fun key rom and everything works great.
Do you have Windows Mobile Device Center installed?
TaurusBullba said:
Do you have Windows Mobile Device Center installed?
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Even I have wmc6.1 installed, my computer doesn't recognize my Hermes starting from build 1921, it opens it as a storage device only, but no syncing !!, downloading Starbase's ROM right now and will try...
Vista has issues with everything its a pile of *beep*
I am also having similar issues. I just got my new laptop that runs Windows Vista Business and I can get WMDC 6.1 to sync and see the device but it will not load my contacts and calendar onto the latop. Its becoming very frustrating and I'm not sure why it won't sync the data. I'm running the vp3g 3.62 rom on my phone.
Try this...
Click...
Start-> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC
Uncheck the box "Enable advanced network functionality"
if it is already unchecked, then try checking it. That seemed to work for me when I had problems with WMDC.
Still the same results for me. My phone can connect to the computer... it just won't sync the data.
mercx said:
Still the same results for me. My phone can connect to the computer... it just won't sync the data.
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+1
vista dont reconize ppc
it say unknow device.
Where we can find the drive?
exactly
festermania said:
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vista dont reconize ppc
it say unknow device.
Where we can find the drive?[/QUOTE
I have xda live rom & vista ultimate ... where can I get the driver?
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Install Windows Mobile Device Center for Vista from Windows Download center. Then everything will work fine. It is my experience.
One thing that might help from my experience:
Take out the microSD card. I had some problems with it inside my phone - no sync. When I took it out everything worked fine! Then I formated my card and problem was solved... don't know what it was all about.
Last month i uninstalled the wmdc and then reinstalled it... i got the connection right but not always...
THen last week i had to reinstall windows and then when i did and update , i got an all new WMDC. This version works fine and good... No issues now...
I have the latest WMDC and have tried everything so far mentioned still and still no sync!?!
Very frustrating.
Any other ideas? Am I missing something really basic.
I have done something right!
After downloading WMDC finally the Jasjam was recognised however when trying to sync the following error occurs:
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To check your connection settings, select Start, then Settings, then Connections."
So i went to that part of my phone but have no idea what I should be checking!
All help with this is much appreciated (if only things would just work )

Help with Office 6.1!!!

As I've previously mentioned in two other threads, I've flashed the HTC 1.33 WM6 ROM to my Excalibur (previously using T-Mo WM6 ROM). It only offers the horrid ClearVue suite instead of Office Mobile. I've followed the instructions on how to install the .msi for Office Mobile 6.1 to my PC (while ActiveSync is connected to my device). The strange thing is...it doesn't recognize my phone as even being a Windows Mobile device! I have my USB enabled through ActiveSync, so there should be nothing wrong with my connection. It sounds like an issue with the ROM. Any suggestions???
Yeah. Install ricky's or Kavana's ROMs!!
Rip Syntaxx said:
As I've previously mentioned in two other threads, I've flashed the HTC 1.33 WM6 ROM to my Excalibur (previously using T-Mo WM6 ROM). It only offers the horrid ClearVue suite instead of Office Mobile. I've followed the instructions on how to install the .msi for Office Mobile 6.1 to my PC (while ActiveSync is connected to my device). The strange thing is...it doesn't recognize my phone as even being a Windows Mobile device! I have my USB enabled through ActiveSync, so there should be nothing wrong with my connection. It sounds like an issue with the ROM. Any suggestions???
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you can extract the .msi file and grab the .cabs and install that...more info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333383
johnnylavah said:
you can extract the .msi file and grab the .cabs and install that...more info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333383
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That was the thread I followed in the first place... After installing the .msi file, I attempted to run it from my PC desktop (while the S621 remains connected to ActiveSync). The message continuously pops up stating that the program does not recognize a Windows Mobile device connected. Thanks anyway, though.
Rip Syntaxx said:
That was the thread I followed in the first place... After installing the .msi file, I attempted to run it from my PC desktop (while the S621 remains connected to ActiveSync). The message continuously pops up stating that the program does not recognize a Windows Mobile device connected. Thanks anyway, though.
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extract the msi to get cab files. put the cab file on your phone and install cab

Errors Numbers : 266 & 264 & 302 while Upgrading PPC

I decided to tell something about my experience today about these Error numbers while Upgrading my Hermes (T-Mobile MDA VARIO II) .
Dear friends….i read Upgrading instuguidances again and again but there is a gold issue I did not notice untill today.
whenever I put my PPC into Boot Loader Mode and connect it to PC to upgrading these Errors appear immediately and I was in trouble what those errors are.
It checked the cable or some different Official ROMs but in fact I noticed all growth from Windows.
Yeah…
I am in winder why Microsoft does not make it possible upgrading PPC over Windows XPSP3 !!!
Whenever I run RUUWarpper on Windows XP Service Pack 3 these errors shown while I was sure about correct cable and correct ROM and ….
Sooo I want to share it to all peoples this gold notice :
Upgrading PPC is just possible on Windows XP Service Pack 2.
not Windows XPSP3 nor Windows Vista.
I think it is good for someone else that search and find these Topic in database of this nice/great Forum if same problem has appeared to him.
Here is some pictures of those errors & some proof if is required.
Mate, there has been a heap of threads on how to upgrade with Vista. It Works.
I have, on occasion, upgraded my Hermes on Win XP SP3 successfully. If it doesn't work for you, try the sd card method, you have to install Hard SPL V7 first, I tend to use this method more as it seems safer to me... Especially for the radio rom.
All you need to do is search and you should find the answers you seek...
Cheers...
So really can you Upgrade your Hermes on Win XP SP3 successfully?
you mentioned some keywords but could you please show me those links exactly how to upgrade our Hermes on XP SP3 too?
I think this forum is so noisy i can not find it myself.
I really need Upgrade HERM300 (T-Mobile MDA Vario II) on XP SP3 on my Laptop.
its boot loader shows IPL-1.04 & SPL-2.10.olipro
is it enough or not?
about 1 hours after reading your post I tried again upgrading on XP SP3 and put it on Boot Loader but nothing. (above Errors had shown again and again)
i would be appreciate if you show us that useful links (upgrading over XP SP3 normaly like XP SP2 successfuly)
Mate, as you have Hard SPL installed (SPL 2.10) try this instead...
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card FAT32. Copy the .nbh file of the rom you want onto it and rename to "hermimg.nbh".
2. Put sd card into Hermes and reset to bootloader - power, OK and reset with stylus.
3. When prompted hit the power button to flash new rom.
Just make sure you have 50% or more battery though.
I find this method the easiest way of flashing roms as there is no real involvement of the PC except to format sd card and copy the .nbh file across. You'll get no sync errors, have no worries about resets/blackouts ar the usb cable being pulled. About the only ways to stuff this up is to reset in the middle of a flash or to have a flat battery.
Cheers...
reza_sadeghi said:
So really can you Upgrade your Hermes on Win XP SP3 successfully?
you mentioned some keywords but could you please show me those links exactly how to upgrade our Hermes on XP SP3 too?
I think this forum is so noisy i can not find it myself.
I really need Upgrade HERM300 (T-Mobile MDA Vario II) on XP SP3 on my Laptop.
its boot loader shows IPL-1.04 & SPL-2.10.olipro
is it enough or not?
about 1 hours after reading your post I tried again upgrading on XP SP3 and put it on Boot Loader but nothing. (above Errors had shown again and again)
i would be appreciate if you show us that useful links (upgrading over XP SP3 normaly like XP SP2 successfuly)
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Yes you can upgrade it in XP SP3. Do you have .net installed in the pc? If you dont, then you will be getting errors too.
ultramag69 said:
Mate, as you have Hard SPL installed (SPL 2.10) try this instead.....
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Wonderful.
and I like this method to upgrade PPC and prefer it.
I will try it as soon as i came back home and format 1GB Memory SD Card.
an Special thanks about your nice clear guidance.
i will back and declared any results.
ai6908 said:
Do you have .net installed in the pc
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Yes.
.NET Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2 is installed on my XP SP3 shows on Add/Remove Programs on Control Panel.
I am sure.
and by your accepting we can upgrade PPC on XP SP3 , I resolute and will search and search again to find any solution why i get those errors on XP SP3 while you both told me upgrading is possible.
dear friends ,Thanks for your communion.
What you experienced was what I just did went thru
Had the same thoughts with the problem, I get Error [264], I also thought the CID-unlock issue. Tried many ways to get thru but fail in the end. Well yea, your piece of notes enlighten me. I will try on XP SP 2 and below, gotta find the machine some where first
Thanks for this post.
Reza_Sadeghi said:
I decided to tell something about my experience today about these Error numbers while Upgrading my Hermes (T-Mobile MDA VARIO II) .
Dear friends….i read Upgrading instuguidances again and again but there is a gold issue I did not notice untill today.
whenever I put my PPC into Boot Loader Mode and connect it to PC to upgrading these Errors appear immediately and I was in trouble what those errors are.
It checked the cable or some different Official ROMs but in fact I noticed all growth from Windows.
Yeah…
I am in winder why Microsoft does not make it possible upgrading PPC over Windows XPSP3 !!!
Whenever I run RUUWarpper on Windows XP Service Pack 3 these errors shown while I was sure about correct cable and correct ROM and ….
Sooo I want to share it to all peoples this gold notice :
Upgrading PPC is just possible on Windows XP Service Pack 2.
not Windows XPSP3 nor Windows Vista.
I think it is good for someone else that search and find these Topic in database of this nice/great Forum if same problem has appeared to him.
Here is some pictures of those errors & some proof if is required.
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dear ferioz...
after those days passed what about your siuation?
has your problem solved using Windows XP Service Pack 2 ?
did you find any System running XP SP2 and try upgrading your PPC ?
If you have trouble with the pc, try the SD card method. Easier and I believe safer too as no-one accidently resets the pc in the middle of a flash. This method is a MUST when upgrading Radio ROMs...
For the PC though, you might need to update your .net framework to 3.5.
Cheers...
dear ultramag69...
You recommened this safely nice upgrading method and wrote a how to on this post and I love it and thank for suggest it.
I did not have enough time to upgrade and change my Hermes ROM recently from December 2008 so I did not try this method still cause PPC will go to Factory Default settings and programms installed will be ununstalled and I hate installing again and again.
anyway...
so Thanks for your nice answer and remind.
I suggest others try this method too instead of using PC running XPSP 2 specially this days mostly use Vista running Windows Mobile Device Center instead of XP running ActivSync.

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