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Help with Verizon TP2 teathering

I was an Alltel customer forced to Verizon. That I won't get into. Anyways with my old Alltel 6800 i could share the internet when I was out of town on my laptop. Is this possible with the VZW TP2? Do I have to pay to teather? If I do I will be pissed as it will be another thing that VZW has screwed up for me.
I have gone as far as running the Modem Link but farther than that I have no idea.

Try a program called CM Internet Sharing. Do a quick search and you should have no problem finding a cab. It turns your phone into a wi-fi hotspot. I don't know specifically about sharing via bluetooth or usb for Verizon, but that program should do the trick for ya.
Just be cognizant of your data usage

microsofts internet sharing app doesnt work? if they removed the icon its in the \windows folder. you have to sync it up with active sync just before. if not, what i used to do on my old cmda phones was set it to modem mode and set up a a dial up connection on the computer with the number being #777 (i think) and no user name or password. you cant have data and phone at the same time on cdma and the speeds of verizons 3g are as slow as atts 2g, but whatever works.

You can also try WMWiFiRouter. It turns your phone into a wireless router that you access via WiFi.

may i ask why i must pay attention to the amount of data i use? i never had to before, and since i used pandora and a few other websites 9 hours a day, i use alot of data. is "unlimited" not really unlimited. I'm at 1.4GB for the month.
I appreciate the help, i will try all of these.

there is pretty much no way to monitor data usage. thats how they getchya. if it says unlimited it probably is really unlimited. there would be too many lawsuits if it wasnt. if you really dont have unlimited then i wouldnt tether. computers are not frugal with data usage.

they do very much frown on tethering and the phone "phones home" althouh there are easy way around it.
CM wifi is very cool app and i used june fabrics"PdaNet" when i used verizion on palm 600; so easy to use that i installed on this sprint phone

well i was still able to teather on the alltel based phone, on verizon network, without getting yelled at. I really only teather when i am out of town for car meets and we need to get online for the schematics. Like i said, im not frugal when it comes to data, even just on the phone. I just don't need another $30 added to my bill for this. Also i did hear that ATT (I am verizon) is limited 5GB/month on their "unlimited" plan

i did 5gb a month a few times (ive torrented on my phone ), ive never gotten extra charges.

Can anybody extract an installable wifi calling apk file on G2 (if any)?

I'd like to see whether it exists and can anybody extract it out and I'll try to install on nexus one to see how it works.

mingkee said:
I'd like to see whether it exists and can anybody extract it out and I'll try to install on nexus one to see how it works.
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It's not on the shipping rom...

You should be able to pull it from the dumped euro rom if I'm not mistaken.
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rUsTyRuSs said:
You should be able to pull it from the dumped euro rom if I'm not mistaken.
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Lol what.no
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http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-wont-have-free-tethering-may-have-wifi-calling
doesn't come installed yet- from what I've read, it will be included in an OTA

It is not installed got mine this weekend in austin at the android bbq from the tmobile pr rep

Wonder if G2 will be support for the wifi application and service ?

Sounds awesome, but no body is discussing price. Do WiFi minutes use your normal minutes, or is there a separate cost (has to be for international), or is (National) WiFi calling completely FREE?
If I can save minutes using WiFi at home and have no additional costs, that would be awesome.
...also, I assume the phone cannot receive calls (from your normal number) over WiFi, can it? It would be even nicer to be able to make and receive calls with the cellular network completely turned off. Imagine the battery life!

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Sounds awesome, but no body is discussing price. Do WiFi minutes use your normal minutes, or is there a separate cost (has to be for international), or is (National) WiFi calling completely FREE?
If I can save minutes using WiFi at home and have no additional costs, that would be awesome.
...also, I assume the phone cannot receive calls (from your normal number) over WiFi, can it? It would be even nicer to be able to make and receive calls with the cellular network completely turned off. Imagine the battery life!
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Price will most likely be free like uma. On my wife's bold, wifi calls are free. The cellular radio will not need to be active as that would defeat the purpose. However, the new system doesn't do wifi to cellular hand-off. So if you leave the range of your wifi network, the call is dropped. also, I'm not sure how this is going to pan out, but the system apparently connects to the towers via the internet and the towers connect the call. I'm not sure if this means you need to be in a serviceable area or not, but it seemed rather odd to me.

In regards to the wifi calling app. The service (ability to make calls over wifi) will be free, making phone calls will deduct from normal minute buckets. T-Mobile states that they have it use your minutes because while it doesn't use a local tower it still goes through their system (ie call gets routed through web to tmobile switch and then is sent through a landline, which of course tmobile still pays the owner for, using @home only cuts the use of the one tower and base station, you still register on the network so you can use your normal # and receive calls. Which brings me to my last point...) you should be able to receive calls just fine.
One thing to keep in mind, wifi signal is degraded more heavily by the way you hold the phone than cell signal, if you download an app that monitors cell and wifi signal, you can see this for yourself. Something to keep in mind if you notice your calls are dropping a lot on wifi or you are missing calls.
In regards to needing to be in a servicable area, the service will work as long as there is wifi. Even in other countries.
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But no free min via wifi, even for incoming? Lame and usless unless you have poor voice signal where you are.
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But no free min via wifi, even for incoming? Lame and usless unless you have poor voice signal where you are.
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True enough. In the past you could add unlimited calling over wifi for $10 per line or $20 for up to five. This feature was discountinued in 2008, with tmobile claiming only a tiny percentage of consumers used the service and that it would remain fir business customers (albeit at a higher price.)
If enough people request it, maybe tmobile will come out with the feature sooner. If you really want something like that, request it at @tmobile on twitter, ask on facebook, post on the support forums or call customer care. If enough people want it, it will happen.
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Skype????????

I wonder how this will work on corporate plans.
we have about 150 blackberrys with wifi calling and we have a deal where it does not deduct from our minute pool

I really hope it comes out as an OTA.
Not because I'm concerned with wifi calling, I'm concerned with an OTA coming out... one that can help those many times smarter than I get root.
..That said bring it up to tmo at any chance!

so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?

Use skype........

-FuRBz- said:
so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?
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It will still use your minutes.
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jasonvieira said:
I wonder how this will work on corporate plans.
we have about 150 blackberrys with wifi calling and we have a deal where it does not deduct from our minute pool
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tl;dr
In short, no idea yet
In the billing system your calls from uma phones (and @home phones) get tagged as being a hotspot call (you see this on your paper or net bill with a letter designation.) The free uma calling service relies on the tag to make the calls free. If calls from the wifi calling app get this tag (it should show even without the free calling feature) the the calls will be free from the wifi calling app through the unlimited uma calling feature, otherwise no.
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-FuRBz- said:
so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?
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no, it won't be deducted from your minutes if you're already grandfathered & paying the monthly fee for unlimited uma/hotspot minutes (that's directly from the tmo techs' wifi calling training doc)

[Q] Tmo claims foreign wifi calling incurs foreign data chargesi

I just got off the phone with what seemed like a pretty knowledgeable rep and she said that tmobile will charge foreign data fees if you use wifi calling from another country. I asked how this was possible given that I would be connected to my hotel's wifi. She claims they look to see where the ip address is coming from. That sounds petty involved if you ask me, but not impossible. Does anyone know if this is true?

Thats odd, because I talked to a T-Mobile rep yesterday, and he said the exact opposite!
They really need to get this straight...

This stems from a misunderstanding a lot of reps(and even some supervisors) had from an internal communication earlier this year. Some customers had been able to make free international calls(dialing out TO a country besides the US) using UMA while roaming internationally. T-Mobile fixed the bug and sent out a communication that people could no longer make free INTERNATIONAL calls while connected to UMA while roaming internationally. Reps misread this as meaning that we would now be charging roaming even while on UMA/wifi calling and T-Mobile had devised some means for doing so. Not true- all it means is that while connected to UMA/wifi calling it's the same as if you're connected to the regular GSM network in the US. Regular calls to the US will be regular minutes and calls to any other country(even the one you're roaming in) results in international long distance charges. If baffles me that some reps still have this misunderstanding, because there's even a chart dealing with this issue on the internal website.
TL;DR: The rep you spoke to was confused. Don't worry, you can't be charged roaming while connected to UMA/wifi calling. Just remember it will be charged just like making a call from the US.

No data charges for WiFi calls, but does go against minutes...
shinkinrui said:
This stems from a misunderstanding a lot of reps(and even some supervisors) had from an internal communication earlier this year. Some customers had been able to make free international calls(dialing out TO a country besides the US) using UMA while roaming internationally. T-Mobile fixed the bug and sent out a communication that people could no longer make free INTERNATIONAL calls while connected to UMA while roaming internationally. Reps misread this as meaning that we would now be charging roaming even while on UMA/wifi calling and T-Mobile had devised some means for doing so. Not true- all it means is that while connected to UMA/wifi calling it's the same as if you're connected to the regular GSM network in the US. Regular calls to the US will be regular minutes and calls to any other country(even the one you're roaming in) results in international long distance charges. If baffles me that some reps still have this misunderstanding, because there's even a chart dealing with this issue on the internal website.
TL;DR: The rep you spoke to was confused. Don't worry, you can't be charged roaming while connected to UMA/wifi calling. Just remember it will be charged just like making a call from the US.
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I talked with a T-Mo G2 specialist and she basically said the same thing...While calling on WiFi, you will NOT incur ANY charges - however, she did say that the minutes you do use while calling on WiFi will be charged against your minutes. She also made it very clear that if the phone connects to the cellular system, then you will get charged for international roaming...
To prevent that, she even emailed me the sequence for making sure your phone does NOT connect to the foreign cellular provider...
Here it is...
1. From any Home screen, tap the Application Tray.
2. Scroll to and tap Wi-Fi Calling.
3. Tap the Menu key.
4. Tap Settings.
5. Tap Connection preferences.
6. Tap one of the following options:
o Wi-Fi Preferred: All calls go through Wi-Fi when connected to a Wi-Fi network. Calls drop as you leave the Wi-Fi range.
o Cellular Preferred: Calls go over the cellular network, and Wi-Fi Calling is a backup if the cellular network is not available.
o Wi-Fi Only: Calls can be made when connected to a Wi-Fi network. If there is no Wi-Fi network, then your calls cannot connect.
7. Tap OK.
Hope this helps...

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I talked with a T-Mo G2 specialist and she basically said the same thing...While calling on WiFi, you will NOT incur ANY charges - however, she did say that the minutes you do use while calling on WiFi will be charged against your minutes. She also made it very clear that if the phone connects to the cellular system, then you will get charged for international roaming...
To prevent that, she even emailed me the sequence for making sure your phone does NOT connect to the foreign cellular provider...
Here it is...
1. From any Home screen, tap the Application Tray.
2. Scroll to and tap Wi-Fi Calling.
3. Tap the Menu key.
4. Tap Settings.
5. Tap Connection preferences.
6. Tap one of the following options:
o Wi-Fi Preferred: All calls go through Wi-Fi when connected to a Wi-Fi network. Calls drop as you leave the Wi-Fi range.
o Cellular Preferred: Calls go over the cellular network, and Wi-Fi Calling is a backup if the cellular network is not available.
o Wi-Fi Only: Calls can be made when connected to a Wi-Fi network. If there is no Wi-Fi network, then your calls cannot connect.
7. Tap OK.
Hope this helps...
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That's odd because I just got off the phone with customer service too and the guy was looking stuff up when I asked him about international wifi calling then told me that they would charge international rates if the IP address of the wifi was outside the US. I hope he's wrong but would still use caution until we have stuff in writing.
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dystorteddream said:
So unless their billing system has come along by leaps and bounds in the past two years (Which I doubt SAMSON has) then I find it highly unbelievable that they're going to be tracking IP addresses for proper billing. Not to mention the fact that you can use Tor and other apps in order to have your IP change.
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it's quickview now ; )

if your on wifi often enough to use wifi calling why not get magicjack, can use it with csip now.

davebu said:
if your on wifi often enough to use wifi calling why not get magicjack, can use it with csip now.
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Ya my sister-in-law uses it to call us while she is stationed in Italy. It works really well.

Two years ago I was told by TMo customer service that I would not be charged overseas calling if I used WiFi over there (Germany). I would be charged minutes, except I was calling M2M, so that was not to be a problem for those calls.
Got my bill. and there was $200 for overseas calls while I was on WiFI. I got most of it removed ONLY because I had been told it would not happen.
If they are ONLY charging minutes at US rates - that will be an improvement - but be careful. The posts on using magicjack may be the way to go.

Just out of curiosity, which phone did you use when the charges happened? It seems to me that the likely culprit is the phone not actually using UMA for the call. On Blackberry phones, you can tell when UMA is being used because the signal indicator will say "UMA" instead of EDGE or 3G. The post someone made about making sure the wifi calling app is set to ONLY route calls through wifi is a very good idea. It's all about making sure there's no connection happening through the roaming carrier's towers.

I think disabling worldclass (international roaming) can avoid such problem.

That is if you want to completely disable international roaming... When I go overseas, I usually prefer to have an option of making/receiving important calls (and/or communicate through texts) even at worldclass rates, but to avoid leisure calls. If I could use Wi-Fi for those - great.
But if not - those who are not aware, Skype is now available from the market with ability to make skype to skype calls for free over Wi-Fi (but not over mobile network) as well as very cheap skype to phone calls (again over Wi-Fi). Just add a few dollars of credit to your skype account before you go and call anywhere in the US for a couple of cents per minute as opposed to gambling with being hit by a few dollars/minute roaming bill. Putting $5 into your Skype account will give you about 200 minutes of talking vs risk of being billed that much for as little as 1 minute in some countries, or at most 5 minutes in others... Oh, and calling numbers in the country you travel to may be quite cheaper as well.

I'm currently in Japan and have been using the wi-fi calling through my hotel's wifi network. Having checked my bill online I see my minutes being used like I would see it if I were using a standard connection if I was in the states. I am not getting charged anything for data according to their website.
You can definitely set your phone to not connect to any foreign provider and send/receive calls only through wifi. This is obvious on my phone based on it having the normal signal bars grayed out and the wifi calling icon in the corner. Basically, I leave my phone on all the time and then I only get calls and texts when I re-enter my hotel's wifi area.
I don't know for sure, but this method appears like it might keep you from incurring foreign text messaging costs. That last statement is only a guess, I just don't see any charges yet on my phone bill.

Infinitron: Are you using the G2 or a Blackberry? I'm going to Europe this Friday and this would be really helpful.
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This information is posted on t-mobile.com in plain writing.
http://www.t-mobile.com/business/Information.aspx?tp=international_calling
When making a call over a Wi-Fi network while abroad, the call appears to be originating in the US—so calls made to the US are considered domestic calls. Similarly, calls made over Wi-Fi between two countries outside the US are rated as calls from the US, significantly reducing international calling costs.
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gaww said:
Two years ago I was told by TMo customer service that I would not be charged overseas calling if I used WiFi over there (Germany). I would be charged minutes, except I was calling M2M, so that was not to be a problem for those calls.
Got my bill. and there was $200 for overseas calls while I was on WiFI. I got most of it removed ONLY because I had been told it would not happen.
If they are ONLY charging minutes at US rates - that will be an improvement - but be careful. The posts on using magicjack may be the way to go.
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If you call a non-domestic number, while using wifi calling (UMA) anywhere in the world, you will be charged extra.
If you think you are using UMA (WiFi) but actually connect using an overseas mobile carrier, then you will be charged extra. If your call drops from Wifi and connects to local overseas mobile carrier, then you will be charged extra.

Well i think the rep is correct and if you are flying international they will charge you for the roaming calls because you are using phone minutes. Make sure that you use the service at your own risk because it might get you a big bill from T Mobile

[Q] Speed Problems with SGN

I have the stock Samsung Galaxy Nexus. AT&T Store put in a new Sim card. I kept my grandfathered data plan. I used Speedtest to check download speeds to confirm my observations.
Using wireless at home, I am getting about 11Mbps download speeds.
With cell phone connection at work or on the road or at the A&T Store - I am getting about 7kbps download speeds.
I went to the AT&T Store. They say there is nothing wrong with my data plan or AT&T linking. The APNs are right. I am on the high speed (HSPA+) network.
I am think that the wireless radio is different from the cell phone radio. If so, then the wireless radio is working right, and maybe the cell phone radio is not? Does this make sense? Is anyone else had this problem and found a solution?
Thanks in advance,

wrayrb said:
I have the stock Samsung Galaxy Nexus. AT&T Store put in a new Sim card. I kept my grandfathered data plan. I used Speedtest to check download speeds to confirm my observations.
Using wireless at home, I am getting about 11Mbps download speeds.
With cell phone connection at work or on the road or at the A&T Store - I am getting about 7kbps download speeds.
I went to the AT&T Store. They say there is nothing wrong with my data plan or AT&T linking. The APNs are right. I am on the high speed (HSPA+) network.
I am think that the wireless radio is different from the cell phone radio. If so, then the wireless radio is working right, and maybe the cell phone radio is not? Does this make sense? Is anyone else had this problem and found a solution?
Thanks in advance,
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Unless your wireless internet in your house is from a tethered/hotspot device or some sort of "mifi" (does AT&T have these yet?), it will certainly be faster than your cellular connection. That is a function of the backhaul behind your internet connection at home versus the backhaul to the towers your phone is connecting to outside of your home. And even with those towers, each one may have a different load and different server access, and so speed will vary between towers, or even the same tower throughout the day. The wifi radio and cellular radio are separate in the phone, and the difference in speed you are seeing is a difference in the signal delivered to the phone, not the phone's ability to receive signals.

I live in Shaker and i'm getting 5mb/1.5 most of the time. When i head downtown my speeds drop by 2/3.
I'm using the suggested APN settings from this forum.

Thanks for the info.
The rep at the AT&T Store using his iPhone had 8Mbps download speed. Many of the posts here on the forums are reporting cell radio download speeds of 3-8 Mbps.
I realize that download speeds over the cell radio can vary, but when they never go above 7kbps, that suggests the cell radio is defective.
I guess I have to try to exchange the phone, if Expansys will help me.

wrayrb said:
Thanks for the info.
The rep at the AT&T Store using his iPhone had 8Mbps download speed. Many of the posts here on the forums are reporting cell radio download speeds of 3-8 Mbps.
I realize that download speeds over the cell radio can vary, but when they never go above 7kbps, that suggests the cell radio is defective.
I guess I have to try to exchange the phone, if Expansys will help me.
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Maybe it's defective. Try comparing it to AT&T's Galaxy S II (not the skyrocket!), or the Atrix, or any other HSPA+ Android (should have similar kernel when stock) device in the same location (the iPhone probably routs more power to its antennae since it has a battery-life surplus due to a smaller screen and lack of true multi-tasking/background processing).
My speeds have been dead on with what my Atrix got.

redo your apn's, make sure you're using auto or USA bands and try wcdma only temporarily. In the *#*#4636#*#* menu. The apns I think are under call settings.
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Well I called AT&T Support. I finally got to 2nd level support. The tech their checked. He finally said there does not appear to be anything wrong with the phone. He said my unlimited data plan (grandfathered from 8 years ago) was the data plan for a feature phone. He asked what I had previous, and I told him an AT&T Tilt, which I ordered with the Media Max 200 Bundle.
He must have scratched his head, but said that the data plan I had did not support smartphones (huhh?), but he could upgrade my data plan to a smartphone plan for an extra $10. I asked about my grandfathered unlimited data, and he said the new smartphone plan would still be unlimited. (GREAT!) And no new contract!
He had me change the APN to the HSDPA one. Then he had me reboot the phone and check speedtest. My download speed was now up to an incredible 1.2Mbps, lots better than 7kbps. So I can live with that. I am not sure why i can't get the 3-5Mbps that others talk about, but this'll do.
Thanks for code reveal, very useful.

The reps are doing something weird trust me (At&t rep here). They're either putting the wrong plan or your device may be defective. If you have unlimited you got to have a 30$ feature called SMT PERSONAL. If its the 2gb plan it should be 2gb for smart phones.
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wrayrb said:
Well I called AT&T Support. I finally got to 2nd level support. The tech their checked. He finally said there does not appear to be anything wrong with the phone. He said my unlimited data plan (grandfathered from 8 years ago) was the data plan for a feature phone. He asked what I had previous, and I told him an AT&T Tilt, which I ordered with the Media Max 200 Bundle.
He must have scratched his head, but said that the data plan I had did not support smartphones (huhh?), but he could upgrade my data plan to a smartphone plan for an extra $10. I asked about my grandfathered unlimited data, and he said the new smartphone plan would still be unlimited. (GREAT!) And no new contract!
He had me change the APN to the HSDPA one. Then he had me reboot the phone and check speedtest. My download speed was now up to an incredible 1.2Mbps, lots better than 7kbps. So I can live with that. I am not sure why i can't get the 3-5Mbps that others talk about, but this'll do.
Thanks for code reveal, very useful.
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lol at incredible 1.2 mbps. Check your speed at 2am when its not peak and tell us. Either you're in congested area or something else is wrong.
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Jesseownzzz said:
The reps are doing something weird trust me (At&t rep here). They're either putting the wrong plan or your device may be defective. If you have unlimited you got to have a 30$ feature called SMT PERSONAL. If its the 2gb plan it should be 2gb for smart phones.
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I did get an $30 smartphone unlimited plan (old one was $20.). Is "SMT PERSONAL" some add on feature in addition to Smartphone Unlimited Plan?
Thanks for all the feedback. I have a callback scheduled Mon at work when I'll have a better connection. Data from home generally sucks anyway
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at&t wifi hotspot on t-mobile

Hi, I was one of the att customers who was getting screwed/throttled after paying monthly for unlimited data for many, many years. After 2 consecutive months getting shut down on day 2 of my 30 day cycle I said "screw it", bought an unlock code, and now have tmo no contract, truly unlimited for $80 monthly, (with only 5g tethering). I downloaded the tmo app so I could track usage and pay my bill, (but froze tmo hotspot with titanium backup)
Using my att hotspot (which can't communicate with tmo) I routinely tether 6-7 devices using about 100g per month and have eliminated my $180 per month Uverse with mid-speed internet.
My speeds are routinely at 30-40 mbps - Life is good!
Flash back 3 months ago ............
I talk my friend into ditching sprint and his silly little iphone 4s, telling him about tmo truly unlimited, and I buy him a tmo branded N3 off of swappa, (since he was going to tmo). I knew very little about tethering back then, but knew tmo hotspot would meter his tethering.
So now he has hit 5g and his hotspot has been turned off.
Is there a way to install an att hotspot, (or any other) on his stock tmo N3 (which is rooted) or do we need to install a whole new rom? Looking for a quick, unmetered fix -
(PDA net has been mentioned a zillion times but does it really work like my att hotspot, set it/forget it) masks all tethering?

As usual, my answer is pay $2.50 for Wifi Tether Router... set a password... everything else default... Done.
At least... it works for me.
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Can You install WiFi Tether Router without An External sd? I haven't bought a new one since my last phone was stolen
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aybesea69 said:
As usual, my answer is pay $2.50 for Wifi Tether Router... set a password... everything else default... Done.
At least... it works for me.
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Not working for me, tried a zillion settings, (it's been a couple of weeks).
Funny thing is, I can get to google, I can type in "nfl", a bunch of links pop up, but when I click on one, won't connect, spins round and round, then times out. Links to pages won't load? How can I access google, (and other sites), but then that's it?, I thought I was either connected to the internet, or NOT? anyways .......
I think is has something to do with T-Mobile turned off the hotspot at 5gs tether, and these programs are NOT hotspots, they just mask the data so it cannot be measured. and when they turn on tmo's hotspot, it doenst work.
If I turn on tmos hotspot, I get redirected to their upsell page).
(maybe wifi tether routher will work in a few days when the new billing cycle begins and the hotspot is turned back on)
That being said, I originally asked how I could install the ATT "hotspot" so I could use that to tether, (like I do on my unlocked att N3 that I run a tmo sim in). the att hotspot cannot communicate with tmo so I tether 100gs per month and tmo measures zero data tethered.
So how can install the att hotspot?
I probably have to install the entire att rom, that's fine?
The phone in question is a rooted tmo. Can someone tell me how to install the att rom so I can get my friends N3 work the same as mine has the last 5 months using atts hotspot?

"at&t wifi hotspot on T-Mobile"
I still haven't received an answer to this question.
I'll expand it a little bit .... Can I install the stock at&t rom on my tmo N3?
(if so, can u post a link so I can get started - thx

Forget installing a at&t rom... If you are rooted.. Just install a different rom that has unlimited tethering.. Trust me it will work.. I tether WAY more then the 5gbs thats allowed.. And I havent been throttled or anything... My hotspot still works great