Hi Guys,
im looking for a tool to Administrate my PC at home over my touch HD (over the www). Any Idea ??
Thanks
Eat
I recommend that you use the included remote destkop software or VNC. VNC is often easier to setup with firewalls and such.
Eatthis198 said:
Hi Guys,
im looking for a tool to Administrate my PC at home over my touch HD (over the www). Any Idea ??
Thanks
Eat
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Hi I use UltraVNC on my Desktop and Notebooks and have discovered VNC for Windows Mobiles from Mochasoft works pretty good.
Cheers
Alan
logmein, you'll need to use IE rather than opera on your phone and the full keyboard not the touch friendly versions. I find it works very well and its free!
Thx for the answer
logmein is very nice, but only if u have a good connection like umts.
with edge is it very slow, but it works
i test VNC next
try some of the settings in the tools menu in logmein, quality and speed settings here. I found logmein quite fast compared to VNC or remote desktop.
You should also give RDM+ a try; i've been using it for a while and it works great.
Torusy said:
I recommend that you use the included remote destkop software or VNC. VNC is often easier to setup with firewalls and such.
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Have you tried the included remote desktop ! I cannot enter a password cause the keyboard refuse to take my entries... have you managed to do it ?
Ciao
Fred
frederikk said:
Have you tried the included remote desktop ! I cannot enter a password cause the keyboard refuse to take my entries... have you managed to do it ?
Ciao
Fred
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Yes I have tied the included remote desktop software. However I did not manage to set it up to my own computer because of my firewalls but I could connect to other remote desktop servers.
I use VNC now, far easier to get everything to work and lots of options available.
ok i tried:
- www.logmein.com
- Remote Desktop
- VNC
All of this services works without any problem, but the best and fastes way is VNC 4 me, i love it (thx 4 the tip)
EDIT: @ Torusy
Firewallsettings 4 Remote Desktop: open TCP port 3389
Eatthis198 said:
ok i tried:
- www.logmein.com
- Remote Desktop
- VNC
All of this services works without any problem, but the best and fastes way is VNC 4 me, i love it (thx 4 the tip)
EDIT: @ Torusy
Firewallsettings 4 Remote Desktop: open TCP port 3389
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thanks for the information. Sadly I already knew about that part and had forwarded the ports and such still it was abit to messy with my firewall. And I like to follow my rule: when you can avoid software from Microsoft do it and yes im aware that im using Windows Mobile 6.1 by Microsoft
logmein.com
i've used the above, and it works well, the only draw back being though, unless you have a good data connection, it can be flustrating waiting for the action to happen at the other end...
other than that - yes try it.... well worth ago, as its free for the basic service!
saintalan said:
Hi I use UltraVNC on my Desktop and Notebooks and have discovered VNC for Windows Mobiles from Mochasoft works pretty good.
Cheers
Alan
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I am trying the trial version but on their website it nowhere says how to setup a connection. Yeah i get this:
* VNC IP Address: Name of the VNC Server. Either a TCP/IP address as 155.22.11.2 or a DNS name.
* Port numberort number for the session. As default VNC uses port 5900 for Windows VNC servers, and UNIX/Linux uses 5901
* MS-Logon: UltraVNC can use the user ID/Password from the Windows OS
* User: Only valid for MS-Logon
* Password: Password for the VNC Server.
* Remember user/password: VNC will write the password to a local registry. Gives limited security!
But i dont know the VNC server, the password, or how to achieve those. How do they expect me to learn this? What do i need to setup on my PC in order to achieve those informations. RDM+ explains this much better, you have to setup a PC client, a WM client you get the password, and your done. But i was wanting to try out the mochasoft one to see if its any better, but cant seem to get an easy setup. Could someone please explain what i need to fill in to get a connection to my pc?
The fastest solution is the remote desktop, which is preinstalled on the Touch HD. You need at least XP Professional or Vista Business otherwise Windows has only the client and not the server service.
xp home
I have a Windows XP Home, and the build-in remote desktop software don't work then.
I Use UltraVNC on my pc and Mocha VNC on my HD, and i works ok, but it's a bit slow.
clb92 said:
I have a Windows XP Home, and the build-in remote desktop software don't work then.
I Use UltraVNC on my pc and Mocha VNC on my HD, and i works ok, but it's a bit slow.
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I haven't checked recently but tightvnc is supposed to be optimised for slow connections
garyjmobey said:
I haven't checked recently but tightvnc is supposed to be optimised for slow connections
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I think I'll try it...
Snuurtje said:
I am trying the trial version but on their website it nowhere says how to setup a connection. Yeah i get this:
* VNC IP Address: Name of the VNC Server. Either a TCP/IP address as 155.22.11.2 or a DNS name.
* Port numberort number for the session. As default VNC uses port 5900 for Windows VNC servers, and UNIX/Linux uses 5901
* MS-Logon: UltraVNC can use the user ID/Password from the Windows OS
* User: Only valid for MS-Logon
* Password: Password for the VNC Server.
* Remember user/password: VNC will write the password to a local registry. Gives limited security!
But i dont know the VNC server, the password, or how to achieve those. How do they expect me to learn this? What do i need to setup on my PC in order to achieve those informations. RDM+ explains this much better, you have to setup a PC client, a WM client you get the password, and your done. But i was wanting to try out the mochasoft one to see if its any better, but cant seem to get an easy setup. Could someone please explain what i need to fill in to get a connection to my pc?
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I don't know if this would help, but this was what I did:
VNC Server IP Address:
XXX.XXX.X.XXX:5900 (my ip address : port number)
Password:
(Right click on the icon in the taskbar on the server PC, and select Admin Properties. Fill the box at "VNC Authentification" with a password.)
Fill in the password on the Touch HD at "VNC Password, optional".
Then it just worked on my PC, but I don't know if your computer/firewall requires some extra settings.
Sorry for my bad english... Hope this will help you!
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anyone know where i can purchase a VNC Client so that I can install it on my 8525 using WM6 Black Edition 1.2 ?
Thanks.
Doesn't VNC work with a web browser? If so, what happens if you try accessing your server that way?
-Steve
well yes, but you can have the server installed on your pc, and have the client isntalled on a remote PC... I used to be a previous Palm OS user, and I used to connect to my PC at home using PalmVNC.
Is there a VNC program i can use that i can install on my 8525?
Here you go
Copy exe to sd card or phone and run.
out of curiosity, has anyone tried the remote desktop function in wm6??? i use the vnc for ppc also, and havent made a full commitment to wm6 yet... now that i think about it.. i bet you have to have remote desktop on the pc turned on... fk that
thanks alot man!!! works like a charm!
I'm using this one:
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
It's working perfect for me.
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out of curiosity, has anyone tried the remote desktop function in wm6??? i use the vnc for ppc also, and havent made a full commitment to wm6 yet... now that i think about it.. i bet you have to have remote desktop on the pc turned on... fk that
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yes it works good... scaling is a B*tch but it works.... I like USING VNC better.
is it possible to extract the ".exe" files and have them displayed in the Programs area?
i just create a shortcut.... i take the file, store it on the card, tick and hold till your menu comes up, tick copy, then point your file explorer to windows\start menu\programs then in the folder tick and hold for your menu, select copy shortcut. From there i usually edit the file name so it doesnt say shortcut, then your done!
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet thanks!!!! Im still getting used to WM.. Been a Palm OS user since May 05
Here's a GREAT viewer from RealVNC, freeware:
http://www.realvnc.com/products/beta/ce/
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Here's a GREAT viewer from RealVNC, freeware:
http://www.realvnc.com/products/beta/ce/
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this is the one i use... it works great... but needs a little tweaking
Personally i use .net VNC Viewer and UltraVNC server.
.net VNC Viewer can handle server side scaling.
This means smaller image and less traffic .
How can i control my pda using window through activesync? For example, i wan to read my sms of my pda on my pc. Any ideas?
USE RDCH
its called remote display control host made by windows back in 2002, 2 years after the millennium, when i was still a teenager. you know back then i used to love math. i still do but its really giving me a ...
try GOOGL'N remote display control host. i useit to control the ppc from the desktop. it shows thee 240 x 320 window, and uses the mouse as the stylus to operate the device..
I could upload the file if you can't get the download for it.
i also posted it plus pics of it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376166
Try this, pocketVNCServer. You will need vnc client to connect on your pc. The IP Address should be 169.254.2.1 that you need to connect to.
Or try NTRsupport
I always use NTRsupport for controlling my Hermes from my Windows desktop.
Check out www.ntrsupport.com
It's commercial software but essential for professional support as you can do the support from anywhere in the world as long as the PDA (WM5 and WM6) and the Windows desktop have an internet connection.
Why not try my mobiler.Its a freeware and an excellent program.Go to this site :
http://www.mymobiler.com/
Yep, MyMobiler is the one. Its excellent and free.
Simply connect as normal using ActiveSync, then run MyMobiler. Then click connect.
Hey presto - the smartphone/pda screen is shown on your PC screen and can be driven using mouse and keyboard. Screen rotate also works. Its very good, and very easy to use.
My Mobile / My Mobiler
hairypot said:
Why not try my mobiler.Its a freeware and an excellent program.Go to this site :
http://www.mymobiler.com/
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Thanky you for this hint! It's excellent.
I use Pocket Controller Pro..
it has some other control beside remote display...
TrueConnect
I've found TrueConnect to be the coolest PC control app of my mobile device - you can move your mouse from your PC desktop onto your PDA as if it were another screen... very impressive and there's SMS integration with outlook. There is a small charge, but well worth it.
http://www.raspberrysoftware.com/trueconnect.htm
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I use Pocket Controller Pro..
it has some other control beside remote display...
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I second that. Pocket Controller-Pro.
it can zoom in, regedit, tasks manager, etc....
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Why not try my mobiler.Its a freeware and an excellent program.Go to this site :
http://www.mymobiler.com/
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excellent soft!i love it
hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
Windows mobile doesn't have a ssh server built in. So, I'm guessing that if you could install one then you could ssh to it. I have never tried it. ssh seems to be more of a unix/linux thing, wich I am guessing the ipod os would be since it is an apple product.
Good luck. I hope this might give you something to search for.
Let us know how it goes.
bummer oh well thanks for the heads up
twiggy626 said:
hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
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I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used. For instance, PuTTY has released an open source of PocketPuTTY. I have used PuTTY on a desktop, and if their PPC offering is as good, this must be a nice package. You can read more about it HERE.
Also, in February last year, ZaTelnet released a free SSH tunneling and port-forwarding program for Windows Mobile devices that supports the .NET Compact Framework 2.0. "ZaTunnel" boasts facilities for secure remote administration of Unix and other servers via Telnet, FTP, or VNC using mobile devices, according to the company. See more HERE
So it certainly looks like it CAN be done. This is what turned up on the first page of hits returned by Google. I'm quite sure there are MANY other applications available for SSH by now ... one just needs to do a quick search (and a lengthy read) to learn what options exist, and which one suits them the best.
Hope this helps,
-pvs
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I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used.
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He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
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He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
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Once you have a usable sshd server running in your Hermes, what then? AFAIK there is no CLI (i.e. "DOS prompt") available in Windows Mobile. Maybe there's a port of Cygwin to WM.
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528880
Works and tastes great! I just posted the Logmein fix on my other thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524676
It's free, it's effective even on EDGE and it just works with Mac, Windows, or Ubuntu.
SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!
I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.
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I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.
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Possibly getting a bit OT? but RDP is certainly excellent for any server administration task, and it works well on the TP2, which was the original question.
Folks,
Thanks for this. Very reassuring......
Brynweb, I loved your comment about your girl friend. I had the same issue with my wife...!! It is just a mobile.... ! No it is much more....
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!
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Sam
Its friggen convenient when I'm out somewhere and realise OMG I forgot to tell Media Center to record XYZ. I can remote into home and schedule it.
Kinda impressive to see the Vista orb 5mm high!
I've been using RDP since my I got my Universal. Its great. Love it! Just make sure you have your stylus handy!
I use SSH to connect to linux and windows machines. In addition I tunnel VNC if I want to have the full desktop instead of a command line.
I use remote desktop from my tilt2 to manage a data center.
I have several annoying issues. I would like to know if any of you have a solution for:
1) I need to ability to /admin or /console into the server.
2) ZOOM into the remote desktop session.
3) Switch to landscape and portrait while maintaining screen ratio.
A freakin Iphone can do this. It can't be that difficult to get this to work on windows mobile 6.5. Does anyone know how to modify the remote desktop client to achieve this? Or write a new remote desktop client?
Using another solution that requires an agent to be installed on the server is not an option. Also, using shadow is not an option.
Thank You!
ya go an pay for VNC
Though it isn't related to remote desktop mobile, if you can SSH in to your data center, you could always try pocket puTTY.
Like I said I don't want to install anything on my servers. I want to use the built in remote desktop solution on the windows server on port 3389.
This currently works I just can't zoom in from my tilt2, and can't connect to console session. Also no ability to save connections as "favorites". Very limited RDP client. Seems someone would have developed a custom RDP client for WINMO since RDP is the #1 method for maintaining a windows infrastructure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533664
Hope it helps,
mikroland said:
Like I said I don't want to install anything on my servers. I want to use the built in remote desktop solution on the windows server on port 3389.
This currently works I just can't zoom in from my tilt2, and can't connect to console session. Also no ability to save connections as "favorites". Very limited RDP client. Seems someone would have developed a custom RDP client for WINMO since RDP is the #1 method for maintaining a windows infrastructure.
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Hi Mikroland, you can use ZADESKTOP... I use it and for me it is the best !!!
http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
mikroland said:
I use remote desktop from my tilt2 to manage a data center.
I have several annoying issues. I would like to know if any of you have a solution for:
1) I need to ability to /admin or /console into the server.
2) ZOOM into the remote desktop session.
3) Switch to landscape and portrait while maintaining screen ratio.
A freakin Iphone can do this. It can't be that difficult to get this to work on windows mobile 6.5. Does anyone know how to modify the remote desktop client to achieve this? Or write a new remote desktop client?
Using another solution that requires an agent to be installed on the server is not an option. Also, using shadow is not an option.
Thank You!
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Open remote desktop, make your connection, then on the server run tscon.exe 0. This will connect you to the console session.
I typically start my rdp sessions with the keyboard slid out, so that I can use it for logins and so I can put my device down while I am working and still see the session. So I have not flipped back and forth.
What would be even more useful is if I could get a bt mouse/keyboard to work with the Tilt2....still searching for that fix. RDP without a mouse is a bit of a bummer.
Leland.
lfondren said:
What would be even more useful is if I could get a bt mouse/keyboard to work with the Tilt2....still searching for that fix. RDP without a mouse is a bit of a bummer.
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You could try Bluemouse. It's a program which allows HID compliant bluetooth mice and keyboards to work on your device. But use the trial before you buy it, since I'm not sure it'll work due to the Widcomm bluetooth stack used by the TP2.
bump this, Is there a way to get the slider bar to zoom in and out of a RDP connection. Also, people are saying to pay for VNC, is VNC better does it support zooming with the zoom bar or does it support zooming in general. My desktops resolution is 1920x1080. I had a app on the iphone called jaadu and it worked perfectly with ultra vnc. It supported zooming and panning.
Remote Desktop
All we need to fix the Remote Desktop problem on the Tilt2 is for someone to modify the zoom slider so that it zooms not only on web or photos but on Remote Desktop as well. Should be simple!
I use RealVNC, which is great, but I saw another VNC program that allows drag scrolling (instead of scrollbars) to view the rest of the screen. I'll look up what program that was.
In the meantime, watch this YouTube video of Remote Desktop on the HD2. It looks very nice!! But I wonder if it is a feature of Windows 7 that has that interface, or a new RD app. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiDZ_wBAtM
edit: That other app is called MochaVNC. Really cool features!
Very nice! Exactly what I am looking for except I don;t have an HD2. I have a Tilt2. There has to be a way to make that work with the Tilt2 using scroll bars instead of the "pinch to zoom"
Right, exactly what I love about it! I have a Touch Pro 2 (same as you, but on Verizon), and although we don't have multi-touch, the scrollbars would be great.
I was looking for this exact thing. Zooming with the zoom bar would be fantastic.
Also, does anyone know if I can connect using L2TP on the default client?
Has anybody tried the HD2 version of Remote Desktop to see how it behaves?
Update:
Here is a copy of Remote Desktop Mobile from LEO ROM 1.48.405.2 (WWE). I don't know if this is the one with 'pinch to zoom' or not.
It is in OEM format copied from \SYS\.
Its not working. I looking for the same solution with a small navigation window :/ and cant find any. Someone know from where we can get the same Remote Desktop Control with small navigation window ?
I use T2 Remote Touch which you can find thread here.
I have paid for the pro version, but you can also use a free version. Hope you find this helpful.