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Poll: Which WM 6.1 ROM?

Just a quick poll for my own curiosity if nothing else, which WM 6.1 ROM are you using?
If not one of the above, please add a post explaining which.
Also, are there are any newer benchmarks available than those shown here?

You forgot "Binky11's ROM". Best I have used so far.

We seem to be getting a few 'others', but no indication which they are?

I'm currently using Faria's/Dr. Puttingham's ROM but it seems a little unstable, as the OS freezes on me forcing me to pull the battery to reset. I installed it yesterday, with 2 freezes already. I think I'm going to try another one. I use an 8525 btw.
-PB

PDACorner's ROM's have been the cleanest and most stable for me. He is always using the latest builds. I am currently using V.14. build 20226.

Personally I stay away from super storage ROMS. I don't have a need for them, and maybe by sheer coincidence I've only had 1 hard-reset for all the ROMs I've tried, whereas it seems like other folks were having them more often.
I've been a fan of the pdaviet ROMs, but lately have been happy with CRCs... not sure if you need to break out his dev ROMs from stable, since one is just a progression to another.
Stable, with good available program memory.

I used schaps 4 for ages, but I find myself more and more taking a simple "no options" rom (like the PDACorner rom) and adding the dialer, interface, and applications that I really want, instead of using some rom someone else builds.
So I guess you could say I use PDACorner with LOTS of mods.

CRC's 11.2 and 12.2 is the same
Basically re numbered. I too have issues with BS ROMs, my device seems not to agree with it! I would love to try again in the near future, but I use my device for business and can not afford hard resets at all. I go with CRC's ROM for weeks with the only need to power off and on again with side button every other week.
I don't know why but I can't seem to find others that would not hard reset on me, yet.

I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.

yesod7 said:
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.

zocster said:
Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Oh. Right. Well, uh, if you ever get a Tilt, you should use this ROM...

i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs. im still using sleuth 3.1 from 7/5/07! =P. it's a PITA to backup data then upgrade, then resync data.
but i'm looking forward to upgrading soon, i think wm6.1 improves performance+stability yes?

JediFonger said:
i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs.
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Agreed, i am sick of using WM6.1 to do the ASSync issue which seems to be present even in the official ROM's

Dvha79_ddt
Its always updated with the latest build. Its clean and stable. Suits my taste.

for what it's worth see my signature...

I have tried at some point just about every 6.1 rom I can find on this forum.
The PDAcorner v16 seemed good, and VERY fast, but I didnt like the UI or the idea of how long it would take me to get it how I like it.
I LOVE CRC's roms, they are clean, stable, and fast. Using 12.2 atm! with a 8meg page pool, dam fast!

For those who speak of the "latest build" ala PDA Viet and PDA corner...is there actually a noticeable difference when u flash to a later build ROM? I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much and then when you consider that you can try the same ROM with so many Pagepool settings, sigh....i could be spending HOURS testing ROMS and just don't have the time to play with them all and at diff settings. That is why I am VERY glad for a thread like this, cause it seems to be frowned upon to compare the ROMS on this site (or mainly to ask the oppinion for a ROM)...i don't exactly understand that, why not discuss and compare them?
what i am wondering, are the latest builds considered to always be the best? i feel like there are so many factors (including unknown ones) that attribute to a ROM being a good working ROM.
for those who have tried lots of the PDAVIET ROMS, any thoughts on which is/are the best?
I can't pick one of the ROMS on the list, but i will say this, i've been on WM6.1 for a while and am considering trying 6.0 again to get a new frame of reference to tell if one is indeed better than the other for me

Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] With add on's

I'm using CRC12.3 at the moment, but I'm not all that rapt in it.
PDV has had some good ones. Does a nice clean install and removes rubbish that other ROMs leave behind. Got rid of a bug that had plagued me for months.
PDACorner has had some good ones.
Randomize had the best package that needed the least customising by me.
I guess I'm just a ROM junkie.
Been thinking of upgrading to a Samsung i900, but then I'd miss all this fun.

Dillsnik said:
I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much
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You can use UC/sdconfig.txt to re-install all your favourite programs that run from internal RAM. Most of the stuff I want to add back in runs off my SD card. I just keep the cabs in a separate folder on my SD card and work through them. Only takes a few minutes.
Biggest hassle I had was with contacts and email settings.
But PIMBackup restores contacts in a flash, and Settings Savior restores all my email accounts (about 4 or 5).
Now I can re-flash and be back in operation in under 30 minutes.

Recommendation for Hermes ROM

Hi guys,
used XDA II / Himalaya until now and walked through time always with the newest ROMs ;-)
Got a Hermes now. I'm currently digging through all the different threads with all the different ROMs available.
Can somebody give me a recommendation for a ROM and a short description what the differences are? Should I take an official ROM or cooked, one of the latest or a well tested/stable one?
I know all the Info is probably in the forum, but it is very time consuming digging through all the threads and apparently there is only an overview of the official ROMs....
Thanks, Hannes.

Schaps 4.31.

New PDAVIET(PV DVH): 5.2.20226 - Build 20226.1.3.0
Cooked ROMS are usually better because they start off with the official and then work the bugs out and add a few extras. To find one that works for you, look at the base model, then you can add cabs of tweaks/programs that fit you. The core is what is the most important to look at.

The MaRaHox ROM V7 is also very good. Have pretty much everything I need striaght out of the ROM and I can delete most of the stuff I don't need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388523

I hope You had read this threads :
WM6 ROM Benchmarking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320370&highlight=benchmark
WM6.1 ROM Polling
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408984
But for me, i recommend CRC r11.2 with 6 Mb pagepool, really fast

with 6 Mb pagepool, really fast
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But with the pagepool changer, you can make any ROM seem to run faster. It helps to look at the core ROM and see what programs are cooked in, then change the pagepool to what you want because you sacrafice speed for storage.

just remember you can't follow what each of us is saying, what works for one may not work for another. just be very very careful, and try things out.

erwinpiero said:
I hope You had read this threads :
WM6 ROM Benchmarking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320370&highlight=benchmark
WM6.1 ROM Polling
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408984
But for me, i recommend CRC r11.2 with 6 Mb pagepool, really fast
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Actually I missed that. Thanks.

zocster said:
just remember you can't follow what each of us is saying, what works for one may not work for another. just be very very careful, and try things out.
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I know, but still the experience and opinions of you guys are much appreciated.....

Best thing to do is to read the threads associated with each ROM. That will easily tell you what is a "good" rom versus one that is "not so good". You determine for yourself what these terms mean.
Also use the search facility to give you even more information. Your question has been asked at least a thousand times now so a simple search would have set you off in the right direction.
WB

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I know, but still the experience and opinions of you guys are much appreciated.....
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It really doesnt matter! None of us use the phone the same way as the others do. So your issues with the ROM might be completely different than others. Only way to find out is to read and keep flashing!

how do you change the pagepool?

drant19 said:
how do you change the pagepool?
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Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269&highlight=pagepool+changer
Caution: Do so at your own risk.

Wow latest was v2.1, mine still v1.2, thanks for the info Adam

No problem, have fun with the upgraded version.

The fastest rom for Hermes

Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx

arshiahirbod said:
Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx
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Thats a matter of opinion, but for me, the two that are the fastest are:
CRC v12.9 (use it myself)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392996
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364216
Try using a 8meg PP for faster speed, and using the tweaks in sSchaps Advanced config (cache settings).
Also, using HTC Home always seems to slow my roms down, I just use Samsung time.

In my opinion, Schaps 4.40 beta is the fastest!

I just tried them both but the one i had was alittle bit faster
try schaps its the most complete rom so far.

PDACornerPro is very fast and stable. The Chef is also very helpful.

This is a little bit offtopic but... is Schap still developing for the Hermes?
I've been away for a while, still getting info out of the forum (loads to read )
Thanks

which ones have u tried? what apps did u install? which apps do u load & run simaltaneously? what tweeks have u performed?
For me all the recent chefs lite wm6.1 6mb pp are very fast!

arshiahirbod said:
I just tried them both but the one i had was alittle bit faster
try schaps its the most complete rom so far.
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Thats a WM6 rom, in the most part they are a bit faster, but have less features, its also a very old rom.
With CRC v12.9 you will need to do the cache size tweeks (for the naked ones anyway) they make it a lot faster.
Anyway, just flash all the roms you can, that's what i did, then stoped on the one that worked for me.
Flashaholic, and a good few days without a flash, i can feel the withdraw pains

i am happy
with my signature, can you define a 'slow rom' until you can define what's 'slow' and what's 'fast' none of us can really help.
Edit also, after trying two roms? and you're sick already? geez, I flashed 30 different roms before I decided where to go. you need to do the same, unfortunately.

zocster said:
with my signature, can you define a 'slow rom' until you can define what's 'slow' and what's 'fast' none of us can really help.
Edit also, after trying two roms? and you're sick already? geez, I flashed 30 different roms before I decided where to go. you need to do the same, unfortunately.
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dude i tried like 20 different roms that makes me sick but anyz
i have a game ( air hockey ) and with that i test the roms, u might think its stupid. but it really works, i can really see the difference of speeds between roms.

arshiahirbod said:
dude i tried like 20 different roms that makes me sick but anyz
i have a game ( air hockey ) and with that i test the roms, u might think its stupid. but it really works, i can really see the difference of speeds between roms.
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Hmm so out of the 20 ROMs, would you care to list, what goes the fastest with air hockey?

zocster said:
Hmm so out of the 20 ROMs, would you care to list, what goes the fastest with air hockey?
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lmao that was just a number.
like i said schaps was the best one. if u want to try the air hockey its amazing, just try it.
and the thing that pisses me off is my friend has a pocket pc ( i dont remember the brand but it wasnt as famous as htc)
his CPU: dont remember the name
Speed: 100 Mhz
Ram : same as mine
but the speed of my cpu is 400 MHz and still his air hockey works better (faster)

veyka said:
Thats a WM6 rom, in the most part they are a bit faster, but have less features, its also a very old rom.
With CRC v12.9 you will need to do the cache size tweeks (for the naked ones anyway) they make it a lot faster.
Anyway, just flash all the roms you can, that's what i did, then stoped on the one that worked for me.
Flashaholic, and a good few days without a flash, i can feel the withdraw pains
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I'm running CRC's 12.9 as well. what are the cache values that are the quickest for you?

ziadd said:
I'm running CRC's 12.9 as well. what are the cache values that are the quickest for you?
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I used the advanced config from the DU and just set it to the recommended settings, haven't had time to fiddle.

arshiahirbod said:
Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406421
check Dr.Puttingham fav ROM. it's got a good speed especially for gamers

for me its V19 Diamond Lite

just my 2c. i prefer to optimalized all windows funcionallity more than get a more speed, or adding some apps (coz available on cab). that's a reason why my rom very quickly on updated
and now i just fixed contact show on bottom, yahoo! go crashed, working encryption (thanks God for all). i have tried make a rom and i can't believe for speed, like a flashlight. but a minor is phone error, message error, etc
find your rom and hack the registry to get more speed!!!
thanks and regards...

abusalza said:
just my 2c. i prefer to optimalized all windows funcionallity more than get a more speed, or adding some apps (coz available on cab). that's a reason why my rom very quickly on updated
and now i just fixed contact show on bottom, yahoo! go crashed, working encryption (thanks God for all). i have tried make a rom and i can't believe for speed, like a flashlight. but a minor is phone error, message error, etc
find your rom and hack the registry to get more speed!!!
thanks and regards...
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what should i do in the registry, how can i optimise my registry

arshiahirbod said:
what should i do in the registry, how can i optimise my registry
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via schaps advancedconfig you can try this...

IMHO, since the question is which ROM and no mention if its WM6 or WM6.1.....for fastest and stable ROM, I would go for Schaps WM6 rom. During that time when I was using his rom, almost all cooked WM6.1 are not yet stable so I didnt jump in the WM6.1 bandwagon.
Only lately did I try to WM6.1 because its been long now since Im using Schaps and I want something new and I want to go with the flow, which is WM6.1 roms Right now, my only choices are PDACorner and CRC's and I think almost everyone agrees with me with those two roms
however, I still miss the stability of Schaps rom

Which is the most stable among the "light" ROMs?

Hello everyone.
I have been waiting for some time for version 1.0 of Bepe's ROM, but I am now tired of waiting, and I want to finally move past my stock ROM.
Among the various "light" 1.93-based ROMs (i.e. with almost nothing included from the start), which one is considered to be the most stable? I am not necessarily looking for the one or two extra benchmark points, but rather for stability and for all functions to work as they should.
Thanks in advance for your advice...

I'm using swiftBL 7.0 12MB PP and works great. CT's version are also good. I couldn't tell about the rest because I haven't tried them

Personaly i think there's nothing better then a vanilla version of Swtos if you want a light version.
But try different roms for your self, it's all a matter of taste.

i agree as far as lite versions go, if you even look at benchmarking SWTOs vanilla V1 is the best, and its excredibly fast!!!
i just really like manila/td3flo application and as far as i know you cant install this as a cab or install it on a rom - or am i wrong??? if so can somoene explain how to>???

patterns said:
i just really like manila/td3flo application and as far as i know you cant install this as a cab or install it on a rom - or am i wrong??? if so can somoene explain how to>???
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You can install manila!!!
Swtos has a cab in his second post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2536734&postcount=2
And if you want older versions including the extra animations, theloanranger has provided them here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409060
The full animations of the Manila .30 are really slick!!!

these "best of" threads are against forum rules ya know.

Hi,
I am working on Panosha 1.9 and I think is very good. In my opinion there is no "the best of" rom and it's a matter of taste. I agree with the preceding speaker.

It appears that any discussion comparing the different cooked ROMs is treading on thin ice. It's obvious why it can be a sensitive issue but I feel we have space to be reasonable here.
Diplomate is not talking about vague terms like "best" here, but fairly specific and tangible qualities, like "stability". Either a program crashes or it doesn't. Personally I think it's a good idea to discuss ROMs in this way as it saves a lot of time going by other people's experiences of ROMs, as long as they have something useful to say.

swiftbl always seems the most stable and bug free for me. the problem is it has manila

Blazeitup123 said:
these "best of" threads are against forum rules ya know.
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You're Right.
Thread Closed.

Is there any real reason why to leave BsB?

I have BsB 651G for a while. I'd like to switch to some newer build, but is there a reason? Can I get something new?
BsB is bugfree, looks nice, has about 58mb freeram after sr.
Is there any newer rom fill this criteria?
Thanx for your opinion.
David

not really it's prob the most solid ROM ther eis for the touch diamond IMO, there is quite a few chefs that have produced ROMS with Sense but its upto you if you wanna try them, i always trying something different but always go back to the ROM in my sig, have you tried Xandroid yet thats fun to play with

Ralphusion

there is a link end of the thread, where a new chef continue this rom

Hi,
...few chefs that have produced ROMS with Sense...
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I tried Sense before, but now I'm satisfied with SPB shell...
Ralphusion
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Yes, it looks nice... Im afraid of not-solved-locking issue.. anyway, what is better at this ROM comparing to BsB? (It seems pretty same to me ) Please don't say "new kernel", it is nothing what I can see...
there is a link end of the thread, where a new chef continue this rom
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yep, i'm watching denstereo's ROM development, but why to flash this? Yes, it has newer kernel, but it doesn't bring any real diference. But 43mb free ram vs 58mb is the real diference

BsB
There is no ROMs out there that can compete with BsB - I have tried A LOT of ROMs from here and all of them have bugs apart from BsB
I use my Diamond every day and never have any issues with BsB ever
I will only flash another ROM if Windows Mobile 7 gets ported to Diamond

You could try EnergyROM those are pretty good roms

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You could try EnergyROM those are pretty good roms
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yeah, I could, but can you tell why? I don't look for Sense. Energy is "full loaded" but it is not actually an advantage. I can install only apps what I want.. Is there anything special at this ROM except of a lot of apps included? Something, what BsB doesn't have?

i quite tempted to try this ROM "Gen.Y PX-D R0 with XDANDROID " but i just downloaded and says files are corrput so nothing to do tonight now lol

Raffo 3.2
You may try this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614695
I have switched from BsB, and pretty satisfied with his Special Raffo 3.2. on my request. Speedy and good battery life and good memory.
No slide lock issue.
A Lite version is available too.

jamit018 said:
You may try this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614695
I have switched from BsB, and pretty satisfied with his Special Raffo 3.2. on my request. Speedy and good battery life and good memory.
No slide lock issue.
A Lite version is available too.
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Raffo v3.2 lite looks fine. Again: Does it have something better than Bsb?

as have many on here changed ROMS so many times now i think its down to personal choice on what you think is better, some people love BSB ROMS some people prefer other things each to their own, we could give you loads to try but you should just back up everything and give it a go we all no its not to much hassle to swap ROMs so just give them a try if you dont like go back to what you like

trev666 said:
as have many on here changed ROMS so many times now i think its down to personal choice on what you think is better, some people love BSB ROMS some people prefer other things each to their own, we could give you loads to try but you should just back up everything and give it a go we all no its not to much hassle to swap ROMs so just give them a try if you dont like go back to what you like
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a nice and diplomatic response trev.
@davidm2: I just dropped by coz I see my ROM listed in the tryouts. Someone suggested its close to BsB ... I know I'm nowhere close.
But all I can say is that BsB ROMs or for that matter, any other ROM in this forum can never be emulated even if the chefs share their entire kitchen with other fellow chefs. Each chef has a defined style and persona which finds its way to blend into their ROMs.
Fans of BsB will always aim for very high memory, zero bugs/high-stability, speed, and simplicity coupled with a crisp UI. And as trev puts it, its really down to personal choice. Give it a try, you can always switch back to your preferred best.
I've been cooking my own ROMs for a while now, but every time I goof up and need some sanity, I flash back to BsB myself coz I know thats the best of the lot (for me).

ralphusion said:
...I just dropped by coz I see my ROM listed in the tryouts. Someone suggested its close to BsB ... I know I'm nowhere close...
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Thanks for opinion. There're those ROM's left on my "list": Benko's, l3v5y's and RaL.GT1F. I like the squared buttons, so Benkos, l3v5y's are out for now (seems to be fiddling reason? and what is about?). It looks like I'll try RaL.GT1F. (one question: there is one bug at BsB after all: ezinput(keyboard) in landscape mode isnt show correctly, the keyboard is a little bit wider than the screen, right part is cutted-off, the 'P' letter is missing and half of 'L' letter is missing. Has the RaL.GT1F this bug too?)

davidm2 said:
Thanks for opinion. There're those ROM's left on my "list": Benko's, l3v5y's and RaL.GT1F. I like the squared buttons, so Benkos, l3v5y's are out for now (seems to be fiddling reason? and what is about?). It looks like I'll try RaL.GT1F. (one question: there is one bug at BsB after all: ezinput(keyboard) in landscape mode isnt show correctly, the keyboard is a little bit wider than the screen, right part is cutted-off, the 'P' letter is missing and half of 'L' letter is missing. Has the RaL.GT1F this bug too?)
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Although I can't confirm this (I'm using a non-ezinput version of my ROM now), but I did install the Ezinput cab (same version) and it didn't cut the sides off (i.e it works just fine).
I've asked for the guys to check if it exists in the main ROM nevertheless. I'll do so too when I flash next. Also, posted a reply to your query there as well.

Hi I have been using BsB since nearly the beginning, but since he switched over to the HD2 been looking for new rom. have tried a few including xandroid but have stoped with Energy Phoenix 2..very nice stable rom like you said it is loaded but it works well while we wait for the bugs to be ironed out of xandroid