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After examining the Voip.CAB I can post some consideration:
The Voip cab provides some dlls, an xml file and add some reg values, no exe to run. There is no way to use SIP features until we get a Radio rom wm6 version.
the dlls interacts with the RADIO rom, giving the apropriate setting in the Options screen of Phone setting, and they give the Today plugin too.
The ipdialplan.xml is the Dial Plan that owr Phone app will use to know when it must use regular GSM line or IP phone service, taking a look inside you will see the patterns and the standard SIP "Dial" command (Advanced users of sjphone will easily understand), example: for calling user 911 on the server microsoft.com you'll use Dial command like: SIP:[email protected]
By now, the only thing that we need is an interface.
Maybe Microsoft has decided to put SIP features to their standard Phone app, and I agree with this, because this will be more simple to use and trasparent to the user: The Dialplan will decide about the LCR (Low Cost Routing)
Hope to see a Radio-wm6-rom capable soon ,)
Bummer!
The main reason I flashed my ROM was that I thought there was an integrated SIP client!
So do you think when this happens we will only need to reflash the radio ROM?
I reeeeealy need this as SJPhone is OK but not integrated and a bit of a bloat...
Maybe
I heard about a Chinese Radio Rom that came with the vanilla version of the WM6 build that many of us have flashed.. If I could get it..
VOIP
Just use Skype, works fine!
Cheers, Leo
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
Ooops!
Sorry about that, sometimes I can be such aaa....
It wasn't my intention!
Cheers, Leo
Falk said:
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
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Skype
I agree, it would be nice to have the SIP client.
But I find it unfair to criticize Skype. Has any of you tried the latest version (2.2) on a Wizard running WM6. It's amazingggggggg. Works smoothly and has far more options than will any SIP client for quiet many years...
Ciao,
Antoine
Hello @all,
is there any easy and free "BPM-Counter" in the net?
It just should show the BPM based on tapping on the screen the breat of music you´re listing. Functions should be "start, stop, reset", only.
I wasn´t able to find an actual for WM (but some for iPhone )
I´m remembering one for my old SE P800 (Symbian).
Does anyone knows a little program for WM (or Java, running on X1)?
Maybe one you amazing developers ist able to create one?
Many musicians will be very thankful, i think.
Thx in advance
Vito Metronome can do that. Its old but functioning at as mentioned by the name it is also a metronome. Skinnable and displays italian terms of tempo (allegro, adagio, presto, largo etc). It has individual volume slider for the click loudness. Supports control over the time signature to position the downbeat. I'd personally LOVE a score editor for ppc... like Sibelius Mobile
Thanks.
There are a lot "pure" metronoms in the net.
Does Vito Metronome is able to get the BPM by tapping the screen?
Unfortutely it is not for free.
What kind of sw is Sibelius?
Vito metronome supports tapping indeed. Sibelius is my favourite score editor. And I love portability. Since getting my PPC I feel like laptop is as portable as desktop
I use k-metronome, which has a lot of great features. It isn't free, but I use it a lot, and have enjoyed all of the features. It has the tap-in-beat feature, as well as the options for various types of rhythms and poly/feels.
Another music program I use is phontuner. I use it for tuning my 12-string guitar, as well as to help vocalists see if they are singing in tune. It can be set for tuning various types of stringed instruments.
I've never tried Sibelius - I'll have to look into it!
Curious... I see a lot of good programs on here named over an over but there's also **** I've come across and haven't seen many people mention..
I see a lot of SPB mobile shell talk, and its GREAT software.. also heard about PointUI (wasnt a fan though)
But I never heard about Winterface? And so far I like it better then both.. maybe because I was used to SPB an this is new but I'm lovin it, it's a simple interface, runs real smooth, and does everything I want..
Other programs I heard rarely or just missed the memo on..
BeeJive IM
Panoramic MoTweets
SK Tools
Speed Booster
UCWEB
Opera Mini (through java)
Task Facade
I don't use task facade now that I been using Winterface.. didn't with SPB either, but it was nice with TouchFLO
Any others ya'll have come across but never really were told about?
And anyone using Opera 10 beta? I got it but it seems to close before I get to do much in the browser, I'm guessing cause it's beta it must not be completely compatible? The whole interface and options are WAY better then the 9.5 one that comes with NFSFans ROM.. personally the 9.5 runs slow for me I'm forced to use opera mini through java its the smoothest browser I've ever used but it doesn't do videos (not even sure if opera 9.5 does? I know the explorer that came with the ROM does but I don't like that either really..)
Kinoma Play- slightly memory intensive, but it's my favorite music player. I'm still on Vin's lightning fast 23506 ROM so I don't really miss any of the memory it uses.
Opera 10 beta is really nice(I haven't had it crash??). I just miss the zoom bar occasionally, but I've just started using the d-pad to select links instead of zooming down to where I could click them. It has it's own ideas sometimes on how to deal with long or complex websites, but overall I enjoy it's aesthetics. If you're having trouble with it go back to opera's website and make sure you have the latest release.
I use Bing more than I thought I would. I really like its phone book/yellow page functions.
I tried using Task Facade a while back when I was running NFSFAN v12 or so and at that time I thought it was to slow and laggy. Now that I'm running Vin's speed demon 23506 ROM I have started using Task Facade and I really like it. There is almost no lag and with it mapped to the camera button I don't miss having HTC's Task Manager at all.
yeah i had used it with NFSFan and it worked fine, task facade was a great program
ill re-install opera 10 im not sure what it is, like i said tho maybe it isnt compatible with NFSFans ROM.. cause he has the 9.5 that comes with it, probably for good reason
I'm liking opera mini. It seems to load a lot faster then opera 9.7
Yeah unbelievably faster.. I do like Opera 10 beta though
skyfire 1.5 is my fave
Showcase Task Manager.
Manila 2d like interface. EXTREMELY nice and fingerfriendly.
also. fartmachine. (immature there) and pocket noise (both xda+ppc devs included). extremely amusing.
Does anyone have any good programs involving things like...
Stocks?
Stock information/updates?
Are there any alternative web browsers worth looking for other than these...?
UCWEB
Skyfire
Opera
Iris
Netfront
Anyone know of any good skins for Winterface? (the original is the best, the others have to big of icons for me)
I'm tryin think of more things... hmm..
Anyone have any programs they've always wondered about and never came across?
I just flashed Vins V_4 and have been using the M2DC manila customizer by Mpenguin14 and its a great program for anyone using M2D.
I like your initiative. Some titles are not so popular because not every developer pays for the marketing. And most users buy what they are told to.
Regarding your list and internet browsers I've seen an interesting one, I think it was called touch browser, very similar to the Android one.
I like:
Thumbcal
G-Alarm
Resco contacts
All three greatly improved WM funtions and make them more finger friendly.
Another program that greatly improves the "finger-friendliness" is SMS-Chat by Vito Tech. The stock SMS for WM has never been very good, which is something I hope changes with WM7, but in the meantime this is a great substitute and has some really nice skins that you find right here on XDA.
im a huge fan of SOTI pocket controller. Granted its not exactly PPC software, but it really is nice for when im working on my desktop/laptop and need to access phone files or send out a text.
Or when tinkering with it in general : )
S2P
TCPMP
Advanced Config
PocketCM Contacts
PCM Keyboard (much lighter than Fingerkeyboard 2.1)
Gen.Y DualBOOT
CleanRam
PHM Regedit
Notepad
File Explorer Extension
A good Android build
I use a lot more stuff, but these are really the essentials for my Vogue (IMHO).
I was using PCM keyboard, recently switched to zoomboard before i flashed to android, seemed to work a touch better for my big dumb fingers.
These make WinMo tolerable for me:
Windows Mobile 6.5.3+
ArkSwitch Task Manager (for 6.5.3+)
PhonEx Dialer (for 6.5.3+) -- sooo much better than any dialer out there, including the HTC GSM Dialer. You get a great full-screen predictive dialer, with smooth contact swipe scrolling. Only contact manager where swipe scrolling works on the vogue (without me accidentally dialing someone). Also it preserves the stock WM dialer for phone codes, and is fast! Comes with slide-2-answer.
EzInput 2.1 / Swype
Things I hate / want to die:
Going through three screens to acknowledge or answer a text message
The above, for missed calls
Internet browser -- None work well, Opera Mobile 10.5u seems the best, but I much prefer the Android browser
Battery life is the only reason I haven't switched fully to android yet.
You always hear a lot of talk about Swype, but you rarely ever hear about the similar, but much smoother SlideIT keyboard. I've used Swype and Shapewriter, but SlideIT is probably my favorite keayboard.
I'm a big fan of SPB Radio. Best app on WinMo.
A great app for music is nanogroove, you can stream your music and custom playlists from the grooveshark.com website. I also use SPBMobile Shell and zoomboard. All excellent software.
I have the google maps application, its perfect!!
but it must connect to the internet,
i need a program thatuses the internal GPS without using an internet connection
i heard that Route 66 can do it, but cant find a link
please help
thanxxxxx
take a look at igo8 i use this for months now and perfect working even with tmc - take a llok at google für some full wm versions... even here at the forum you should find some useful links i can't belive that you can't find anything for your needs - just a tipp @google type + download or +full download behind the name of the desired app...
Try TrekBuddy. It's not too accurate but you can calibrate it and make your own maps and waypoint. It's java by the way: http://www.trekbuddy.net/forum/
Cheers!
nDrive is doing the trick for me But you need to pay for it.. or simply google it
Nav N Go iGO 8
GOOGLE
iGO 8
The best navigation it's Garmin
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-11034-00&cID=138&pID=11413
TomTom 7 seriously.
I started using TomTom since version 5 and I'm fond of it, but I should admit it's mainly matter of personal liking.
I also tried iGO8, pre-installed on a standalone navigator I bought, it's not so bad, but the user interface is more chaotic in my opinion.
As far as I know, iGO interface is more customizable then TT.
Talking about algorithms, specially for route recalculation, I think they are equivalent.
Igo8 is best...
alternate to tom tom
I have been using sygic mobile. it is alot cheaper £30 for program and uk maps!
iGo8 - I like it
fingerizm said:
I have the google maps application, its perfect!!
but it must connect to the internet,
i need a program thatuses the internal GPS without using an internet connection
i heard that Route 66 can do it, but cant find a link
please help
thanxxxxx
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We have Route 66 installed and like it - go www.66.com
Navigon
Navigon Navigator is the best! I used to use TomTom.
Navigon is very grafical and has lots of options.
On the highway you get a visual representation of the exit you should or should not take.
It even shows 3d buildings on the map if you are in a city.
Performance is also good!
Garmin
Garmin mobile xt r the best gps software for me...
since i used garmin,i never been lost on the road anymore...
if u want the software n map,u can try search at MFM forum...
I tried almost all GPS software. (TT, Garmin mobile 4 & 5, iGo8, ... etc).
Garmin is by far the WORST. Ugly, outdated and confused GUI. And it's slow as hell. But it's excellent with POI searching especially with Google integration. And it's flight schedule and traffic info over internet is handy too.
Tom Tom is not bad, but not good as well in every aspect.
iGo8 is the most powerfully and configurable. TTS (very rare on WM), TMC (even rare), good looking (with customize skin) and smooth. The only problem is require a lot of memory and takes longer to start (30sec - 1min)
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TomTom 7 seriously.
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what he said, some of the POI's have been a little off, and the recalculating could be a little better, but it is great overall
search google for it, i used words like TT7 and xperia, and so forth...works great
Automapa
Best of the best is Polish program called Automapa (www.automapa.com).
You can change language to english and load europe map/
Igo 8.3-the best.
I have used Garmin, Navigon, Igo, TomTom and Sygic.
Garmin was't really userfriendly in my opinion and I stopped testing it very quickly.
Igo is really nice navigation program, It is customizable, it has tmc, roadassistance. Programs starts not fast but when it starts it works fluently. There were two reasons I stopped using Igo: 1. Speech is really a chaos. Its not accurate, it replays a lot and the beep tone before the speech is really annoying. 2. GPS wasnt very accurate.
Sygic is almost like TomTom, but sometimes the calculating of the roads wasnt really logical for me, but its really nice alternative.
Navigon is the most extencive navigation program for PDA. It has visual road assistance for example. But it doesnt work very properly yet. I cant search for POI´s and its really heavy program. Speech is very good, pitty that it doesnt have querty keyboard.
I have used TomTom for a long time and looked every time to another, because it doest have any extras (it doesnt have road line assistance for example), but because its light, stable, userfriendly and everything works like it has to, I always went back to TomTom and now it is the only navigation program I use.
HI
I'm developing a WM6 application and i need a free, nice and easy to use UI controls to use on my app.
Does anyone knows something nice and easy to use.
I find fluid controls but it gets a lot of code and it looks a little confuse to me.
Thanks for any help
You can use one of the SenseSDKs, there are free (except for commercial project i think...), nice, and easy to use...